Neil Harris has said that Cardiff City won't be spending any

Neil Harris has said that Cardiff City won't be spending any money in January - but that does not mean there won't be any incomings.


Monday 30th December 2019

It will come as a blow to many Bluebirds fans, who were hoping Harris would have been afforded the funds to shape his squad how he would have liked.

The manager has already spoken on many occasions about streamlining the squad, but, until now, has said little about his recruitment strategy.

Harris said that City will be restricted to only free agents and loan signings next month, which drastically cuts down the list of players who will be available to them.



NEIL HARRIS:


"We won’t be spending any money in January," the Bluebirds boss said after the win over Sheffield Wednesday.

"We’re going to have to be clever and look at loan players or frees.

"I’ve got a strong group of players."





One of those players, is of course, is Sol Bamba, who made only his second appearance of the season at Hillsborough and played a starring role in defence.

His return represents a massive boost and will feel almost like a new signing in itself for the Bluebirds.

"We put Sol on, changed our shape and looked a lot more solid," Harris added.

"I thought we deserved to see the game out as comfortably as we did in the end.

"I thought Sol was very impressive. When you’ve got senior players like that, you can rely on them.

"We’ve played some really good football and defended really well as a unit. We’re a work in progress and I’ll always demand more."

It was a brilliant performance up in Sheffield and further proof of what this squad is capable of.

They have come through an extremely difficult festive period unscathed - three draws and a win - and will look to kick on in the new year, with or without new faces.

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To be honest for this season 3 high quality loan players should be all we need, if you look at teams like Leeds compared to us that is the difference, they have 4 or 5 on loan we have 0.
As we all know ourselves, most successful teams in this division always have 2 or 3 quality loans.

To be honest for this season 3 high quality loan players should be all we need, if you look at teams like Leeds compared to us that is the difference, they have 4 or 5 on loan we have 0.
As we all know ourselves, most successful teams in this division always have 2 or 3 quality loans.

agree, Ben white, Nketiah, Harrison at Leeds, Diangana, Pereira, Krovinovic at West Brom.

Probably looking £2m loan fee for decent Prem player plus probably £30000 a week salary

Can't see us paying that

Probably looking £2m loan fee for decent Prem player plus probably £30000 a week salary

Can't see us paying that

That is what people dont realise. They think loans are free. You still have big loan fees wages and agent fees to pay.

A 30k a week wage will be around £1.5million a year
Plus loan fee to club £1mill plus
Agent fees

The average loan for a season would cost around £3mill per player

Probably looking £2m loan fee for decent Prem player plus probably £30000 a week salary

Can't see us paying that

That is what people dont realise. They think loans are free. You still have big loan fees wages and agent fees to pay.

A 30k a week wage will be around £1.5million a year
Plus loan fee to club £1mill plus
Agent fees

The average loan for a season would cost around £3mill per player

Think it all depends on the circumstances myself, article states Harris will be looking at loan players or free agents, big clubs need young players to get game time so the favour goes both ways.

So go and get Victor Camarasa back Neil!

Yea go get Victor ,and his girlfriend liked it here

If I had money to spend I wouldn't tell either.

To be honest, 3 loan players at 3 million each is still cheaper than Josh Murphy or Bobby Reid.

To be honest, 3 loan players at 3 million each is still cheaper than Josh Murphy or Bobby Reid.

Good point but it's still probably 6 million more than Harris has available.

Probably looking £2m loan fee for decent Prem player plus probably £30000 a week salary

Can't see us paying that

That is what people dont realise. They think loans are free. You still have big loan fees wages and agent fees to pay.

A 30k a week wage will be around £1.5million a year
Plus loan fee to club £1mill plus
Agent fees

The average loan for a season would cost around £3mill per player

Good point but in the circumstances of a loan, the parent club can pay part of the wages so it might not mean the whole burden of paying wages is on us.

I am ok with loans but are we broke? All the money we made from the prem and parachute payments, the sale of bobby reid to come and zahore, lets all not start moaning about the loan fees wages like camarassa etc, this is how wolves did it.

All depends what players your after, not all will demand a fee and not always have to pay all the wages. Deals are a lot more complex than that like Grujic, that was based on him playing.

3m seems completely over the top to me. I'd imagine Harris will look at younger players who need game time if they are in the prem.

Glad we aren't wasting more money tho, sell and rebalanced the squad and see where we are come the summer and decide on what's best to progress.

Probably looking £2m loan fee for decent Prem player plus probably £30000 a week salary

Can't see us paying that

That is what people dont realise. They think loans are free. You still have big loan fees wages and agent fees to pay.

A 30k a week wage will be around £1.5million a year
Plus loan fee to club £1mill plus
Agent fees

The average loan for a season would cost around £3mill per player

Think it all depends on the circumstances myself, article states Harris will be looking at loan players or free agents, big clubs need young players to get game time so the favour goes both ways.

yes it depends on circumstance. you only have to look at our loans both in and out to realise this..a club might value a young up and comer highly ,demand a loan fee with a stipulated amount of game time.. another club might just be happy to get someone not involved off the wage bill or even part pay the wage just to get numbers down at the training ground..

Talk of £2 million loan fees and £30k a week wages and £3 million packages is nonsense.

For one, the season half over.

There must be some hungary promising youngsters at top clubs whose careers will benefit from first team action. Derby had Mount and Wilson last season and almost got promoted on the strength of them.

Probably looking £2m loan fee for decent Prem player plus probably £30000 a week salary

Can't see us paying that

Yeah well for a player worth 15m or so then its probably worth it.

I am ok with loans but are we broke? All the money we made from the prem and parachute payments, the sale of bobby reid to come and zahore, lets all not start moaning about the loan fees wages like camarassa etc, this is how wolves did it.

think you need to take a long hard look at how Wolves are where they are.. we both went up together but the comparison ends there, they went up as favs with players who wouldn't have signed for any other championship club and did pay large loan fees .. we went up punching above our weight and were not even fancied by many on the run in...completely different situation to ourselves...you might as well go the full hog and be saying thats how Man City did it

It’s very clear that Harris has been given a remit of getting more out the squad than what Warnock was. The hierarchy clearly believe Warnock when he said the squad was good enough for promotion and Harris has been chosen to get more out of the existing bunch. I would still have expected Harris to be afforded a couple of million to at least make 1 or 2 of his own signings to assist in making that happen. Unfortunately we are bound by Warnock’s summer signings for at least another 6 months.

Camarasa please, can't believe he's only played five minutes for Palace, what a waste of time

Camarasas lack of game time is unbelievable but an indication of how much quality is swoshing around PL squads. Wolves route to promotion and ongoing success also is interesting. Though I think all their loans came from overseas and the one contact. Our lack of a single loan signing this season is just bizarre.

It’s very clear that Harris has been given a remit of getting more out the squad than what Warnock was. The hierarchy clearly believe Warnock when he said the squad was good enough for promotion and Harris has been chosen to get more out of the existing bunch. I would still have expected Harris to be afforded a couple of million to at least make 1 or 2 of his own signings to assist in making that happen. Unfortunately we are bound by Warnock’s summer signings for at least another 6 months.

a month is a long time in football and whats been said can change...another run of 3/4 decent results might make the goalposts move a bit

I can't say I'm surprised.

The previous manager spent a lot of money in the summer on players like Aden Flint, Robert Glatzel and Marlon Pack.

The hierarchy would be forgiven in asking whether that money was worthwhile, especially given the players' ages.

Assuming we pay the Sala fee which we should, and avoid the three window transfer ban, I can see more incoming in the summer.

But our squad is too big and needs streamlining first.

As others have said, loans from top clubs don't come cheap. There are a lot of other fees involved.

As for Camarasa, I'm confused as to why people think he would drop down to the Championship. He has not attachment to our club, other than playing a single season with us. I'm sure he would much rather go back to Spain and fight for his place or get a move to another La Liga club.

I am ok with loans but are we broke? All the money we made from the prem and parachute payments, the sale of bobby reid to come and zahore, lets all not start moaning about the loan fees wages like camarassa etc, this is how wolves did it.

Totally agree. 45 million parachute payment, with 35 million to come next year. The money is there is just whether we spend some of it on players, loan or otherwise or if Tan wants it back. I don't blame him if its the latter but the club needs to be honest about it and not to take us for idiots.

I fail to see how people think that the parachute payments are available to sign players they are built to pay for the increased wages and transfer deals that occurred when joining the premier league

I guarantee those players had promotion bonuses and wage rises but they don’t necessarily without a new negotiation the year you are promoted have a relegation reduction clause, it’s hard to know exactly what our players are earning given we were promoted and relegated within one season

For example a 10k increase on one players wages is 520k a year...

We may have offloaded zohore and Reid potentially this summer but there’s no guarantee to how these deals are structured either they could be only part payment now spread over a few seasons or appearances etc

I would still expect our year end results to show a loss for last season just the same as last promotion and the parachute payments Will cover increased wages and expenses the next two seasons with maybe a few small additions

Some people live in cloud cuckoo land when it comes to figures and forget this club was still running at a loss during most championship seasons prior to promotion

Started a thread on this yesterday.....but you make yours a sticky!!! Privilege of running your own site I suppose

To be honest for this season 3 high quality loan players should be all we need, if you look at teams like Leeds compared to us that is the difference, they have 4 or 5 on loan we have 0.
As we all know ourselves, most successful teams in this division always have 2 or 3 quality loans.

agree, Ben white, Nketiah, Harrison at Leeds, Diangana, Pereira, Krovinovic at West Brom.

But out of the 3 at Leeds, nkeitah,hasn't even started once for them! So much so his parent club,are looking to take him back,and loan him where he is likely to play a lot more often,I'd not want to loan players,who were sitting on the bench at best,no point in loaning him to them,if he isn't gaining experience!!

Nkeitah has an in form Patrick Bamford ahead of him and was out for a month injured. It seems if his loan is ended Brentford and Bristol City keen to take him.

Nkeitah has an in form Patrick Bamford ahead of him and was out for a month injured. It seems if his loan is ended Brentford and Bristol City keen to take him.

its happens quite often though... people mention the loans that are on fire. which is obvious but its said as if its as easy as that...its not, for whatever reasons some players go out on loan and do very little.. Dan James went to Shrewsbury for a year which got terminated after 2 months as he couldn't make the match day squad..

Shame we can’t recoup some cash on Murphy and madine......