‘ It’s a Big Myth ‘

I have always stated it’s a big myth that the egg is bigger than football in Wales.

Yes Wales egg get 70,000 crowds 3 times a year, but it’s a like a National piss up day three times a year. They don’t support the egg week in week out.

This weekend



Biggest rugby games of the season in Wales and football smallest game of the season.


Dragons v Scarlets 5,517

Ospreys v Cardiff Blues 6,664

Cardiff v Preston North End 22,625

87,000 registered rugby players in Wales.

90,000 registered football players in Wales.

Its been a myth for over a decade that rugby is bigger.

It's only international rugby that has much of a following in Wales, and even then it is more the occasion rather than the game itself. The majority of football fans have a good knowledge of the game, and follow their team week in week out. Half the so called rugby fans only follow the sport for a few weeks of the year, and a lot of them prefer dressing up as daffodils to actually learning what is going on during the match. I am sure many fans celebrating a try only know Wales have scored because they see others jumping up and down and cheering. I personally think Wales were unlucky in the recent World Cup against S Africa, two more wickets and we may have got to the final.
There is room for both sports in Wales, but football is easily the bigger of the two whatever BBC Wales may decide.

22K, really??

Did that count all the stay at home ST holders as it was on sky as well??

22K, really??

Did that count all the stay at home ST holders as it was on sky as well??

correct its tickets sold..same as rugger....

It's only international rugby that has much of a following in Wales, and even then it is more the occasion rather than the game itself. The majority of football fans have a good knowledge of the game, and follow their team week in week out. Half the so called rugby fans only follow the sport for a few weeks of the year, and a lot of them prefer dressing up as daffodils to actually learning what is going on during the match. I am sure many fans celebrating a try only know Wales have scored because they see others jumping up and down and cheering. I personally think Wales were unlucky in the recent World Cup against S Africa, two more wickets and we may have got to the final.
There is room for both sports in Wales, but football is easily the bigger of the two whatever BBC Wales may decide.

yep despite the best efforts of the media.

Bit of a non story this.

We all know welsh rugby is in turmoil at regional level but you forget clubs like ponty and neaport getting 3k plus for their games.

Cardiff city will attract the valley supporters, Cardiff blues although as a region covers the valleys the valley supporters won't support them or attend because of club rugby history.

What would Cardiff citys attendances be like if you took the valleys and Bridgend supporter numbers out??

Ponty getting 3k

seriously

Bit of a non story this.

We all know welsh rugby is in turmoil at regional level but you forget clubs like ponty and neaport getting 3k plus for their games.

Cardiff city will attract the valley supporters, Cardiff blues although as a region covers the valleys the valley supporters won't support them or attend because of club rugby history.

What would Cardiff citys attendances be like if you took the valleys and Bridgend supporter numbers out??

its not about Cardiffs attendances its about football being more popular. its always been nowt to do with regions and ponty averaging 3k ? its not just the league teams that have attendances.. and not only Welsh teams that people follow..
participation ..football is bigger
and TV audiences { which is now the main source of revenue in both sports } wouldn't be close if the interest in rugby quadrupled.

Bit of a non story this.

We all know welsh rugby is in turmoil at regional level but you forget clubs like ponty and neaport getting 3k plus for their games.

Cardiff city will attract the valley supporters, Cardiff blues although as a region covers the valleys the valley supporters won't support them or attend because of club rugby history.

What would Cardiff citys attendances be like if you took the valleys and Bridgend supporter numbers out??

its not about Cardiffs attendances its about football being more popular. its always been nowt to do with regions and ponty averaging 3k ? its not just the league teams that have attendances.. and not only Welsh teams that people follow..
participation ..football is bigger
and TV audiences { which is now the main source of revenue in both sports } wouldn't be close if the interest in rugby quadrupled.

SPOT ON

Bit of a non story this.

We all know welsh rugby is in turmoil at regional level but you forget clubs like ponty and neaport getting 3k plus for their games.

Cardiff city will attract the valley supporters, Cardiff blues although as a region covers the valleys the valley supporters won't support them or attend because of club rugby history.

What would Cardiff citys attendances be like if you took the valleys and Bridgend supporter numbers out??

its not about Cardiffs attendances its about football being more popular. its always been nowt to do with regions and ponty averaging 3k ? its not just the league teams that have attendances.. and not only Welsh teams that people follow..
participation ..football is bigger
and TV audiences { which is now the main source of revenue in both sports } wouldn't be close if the interest in rugby quadrupled.

The OP compared Cardiff Citys attendance to the regions last weekend so attendances are part of it as he used then for his argument.

Ponty getting 3k

seriously

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I always found the whole anti-Rugby garbage laughable.
Can't people just enjoy both sports for what they are or is it too mentally challenging to enjoy anything other than football?

Even the Jacks get more fans than say 4 top rugby matches put together.

Although to be fair it isn’t that long ago that I remember 3,000 at Ninian Park. Things change.

National sport..... end of!!

National sport..... end of!!

And?

Bit of a non story this.

We all know welsh rugby is in turmoil at regional level but you forget clubs like ponty and neaport getting 3k plus for their games.

Cardiff city will attract the valley supporters, Cardiff blues although as a region covers the valleys the valley supporters won't support them or attend because of club rugby history.

What would Cardiff citys attendances be like if you took the valleys and Bridgend supporter numbers out??

its not about Cardiffs attendances its about football being more popular. its always been nowt to do with regions and ponty averaging 3k ? its not just the league teams that have attendances.. and not only Welsh teams that people follow..
participation ..football is bigger
and TV audiences { which is now the main source of revenue in both sports } wouldn't be close if the interest in rugby quadrupled.

The OP compared Cardiff Citys attendance to the regions last weekend so attendances are part of it as he used then for his argument.

yes part of it...

Cardiff blues average attendance is 6000 and
Ospreys is 7000. Pretty poor really

Although to be fair it isn’t that long ago that I remember 3,000 at Ninian Park. Things change.

3k at NP or 33k at the CCS does not reflect the popularity of the sport though ?
if rugby was more popular the top players wouldn't be earning less than half of a 2nd tier reserve....it really is as simple as that..

Although to be fair it isn’t that long ago that I remember 3,000 at Ninian Park. Things change.

3k at NP or 33k at the CCS does not reflect the popularity of the sport though ?
if rugby was more popular the top players wouldn't be earning less than half of a 2nd tier reserve....it really is as simple as that..

Correct again, at the time we were at our lowest and most of South Wales football fans were supporting English football clubs and sadly many still are.

Although to be fair it isn’t that long ago that I remember 3,000 at Ninian Park. Things change.

3k at NP or 33k at the CCS does not reflect the popularity of the sport though ?
if rugby was more popular the top players wouldn't be earning less than half of a 2nd tier reserve....it really is as simple as that..

Correct again, at the time we were at our lowest and most of South Wales football fans were supporting English football clubs and sadly many still are.

yes mate and if your ever on the M56 on a match day you will pass literally thousands of welsh people heading to Merseyside and Manchester..

I used to love horse racing and was so excited the first time I went to Royal Ascot which is an amazing days racing if you understand it. Probably 10K out of the 70K understand what's at stake from a claimer at Chepstow.There were some right states at the end of the day

This is how I see the Wales national rugby team. Its a cracking day out where the sport is a distant second. Its Royal Ascot for Taffies (not meant to be derogatory)

PS - Love a good day out with my mates for the rugby if we are not playing.

Although to be fair it isn’t that long ago that I remember 3,000 at Ninian Park. Things change.

3k at NP or 33k at the CCS does not reflect the popularity of the sport though ?
if rugby was more popular the top players wouldn't be earning less than half of a 2nd tier reserve....it really is as simple as that..

Correct again, at the time we were at our lowest and most of South Wales football fans were supporting English football clubs and sadly many still are.

yes mate and if your ever on the M56 on a match day you will pass literally thousands of welsh people heading to Merseyside and Manchester..

Pass them on a motorway every away game on Saturday ! It's only because they got fan clubs around uk that get tickets.... joe bloggs who wants to see liverpool have to join club every season then go into a ballot with 50k other souls and maybe just maybe get a ticket for a game in a season or two why the heck do people bother when got local team to support?

A couple of errors in comments,Wales Rugby plays 5/6Home Internationals every season with usually sell out crowds whereas Wales Football struggle to sell out 33,000 for their World Cup and Euros qualifiers even though they charge much cheaper prices, I know as I’m a Red Wall member, and friendly crowds are a disgrace! Also no one has mentioned that our other two professional clubs Newport and Wrexham get much lower crowds than the regional rugby clubs or that Premiership Rugby Clubs get much bigger crowds than Premier League of Wales Football clubs. In conclusion crowds of both codes are pretty similar and are dependent on success! There is room for both codes in Wales and I support Cardiff City and my local rugby club and both International teams!

Do either of rugby or football really need to be labelled as the 'national' sport anyway? Does a nation need such a thing?
Theres room for both without the need for either to be classed as bigger or better than the other.

Cardiff city are Wales and the west countrys best supported domestic club of all time. wether that be football rugby or what ever ALL crowds in excess of 30000 have been in Cardiff .never Swansea or bristol.now that's on the back of history which I would describe at best as mediocre.

I support Wales. No matter what sport. If it's Wales v Anyoneistan at Twiddlywinks and it's on Sky sports. I'll put my Wales top on, wrap a flag around me, pour myself a Penderyn and I'll watch it.

I'm a city STH, a regular visitor to the millennium stadium and even watch Wales u20s rugby at Colwyn bay (as it's pretty local).

To me it's sport, full of rivalries, we don't need to create our own! Wales, anyone playing England, underdog... In that order.

A couple of errors in comments,Wales Rugby plays 5/6Home Internationals every season with usually sell out crowds whereas Wales Football struggle to sell out 33,000 for their World Cup and Euros qualifiers even though they charge much cheaper prices, I know as I’m a Red Wall member, and friendly crowds are a disgrace! Also no one has mentioned that our other two professional clubs Newport and Wrexham get much lower crowds than the regional rugby clubs or that Premiership Rugby Clubs get much bigger crowds than Premier League of Wales Football clubs. In conclusion crowds of both codes are pretty similar and are dependent on success! There is room for both codes in Wales and I support Cardiff City and my local rugby club and both International teams!

what errors.. more people watch football. play football. and watch football on TV. those are the 3 markers.

Cardiff blues average attendance is 6000 and
Ospreys is 7000. Pretty poor really

We were getting those kind of attendance figures at Ninian Park