" More racism in the Premier League "

Chelsea players Antonio Rüdiger and Kepa Arizzabalaga had objects thrown at them today during their match at Tottenham.

Rüdiger also had racist abuse shouted at him.

Rüdiger had been involved in the VAR decision to send Son Heung Min off not long before this incident, but no excuse for racist behaviour.

It follows the racist abuse seen in the crowd by a Manchester City fan during the Manchester Derby earlier this season.

Full video below of the Sky Sports pundits talking about it


https://youtu.be/oEpG5JNWCWI

It's becoming increasingly clear why VAR has been introduced. I don't agree with it, but it is showing what CCFC fans have known for some time - Premier League referees are hopeless. A prime example today, Anthony Taylor is the worst of a very poor bunch, cannot even get corner decisions right

This will never Stop - Until something is done about it ....Sadly those in charge - just take a wage,while others suffer !!!

Video below of the Sky Sports pundits talking about it.

https://youtu.be/oEpG5JNWCWI

This will never Stop - Until something is done about it ....Sadly those in charge - just take a wage,while others suffer !!!

ant suggestions.

Jeremy Corbyn: hold your head in shame.

This will never Stop - Until something is done about it ....Sadly those in charge - just take a wage,while others suffer !!!

ant suggestions.

Prosecution with heavy punishment.

Racism will not stop until everyone stops it .
As an example
Whilst you still have black people calling each other "Ni**er" then they cant moan when a white person says it. The word is used in multiple songs and films but is deemed ok because they are of the same colour which is bollocks.
Racism is a problem for everybody and the problem needs to be fixed from within before it is solved on a wider scale.

Whoever is caught making racist remarks or gestures should have a automatic lifetime football ban and be made to do community service not prison

Start with John Terry.. life ban from football. Stormsy could be next for frequent use of the word ‘ nigga’ in songs.

Be a good start.

Then Bluegog for racism against the English. Then everyone who had a racist thought.... which is everyone.

This will never Stop - Until something is done about it ....Sadly those in charge - just take a wage,while others suffer !!!

ant suggestions.

Prosecution with heavy punishment.

im sure if a law is broken they are prosecuted now.

This will never Stop - Until something is done about it ....Sadly those in charge - just take a wage,while others suffer !!!

ant suggestions.

Prosecution with heavy punishment.

Racism is horrible but what heavy punishment is appropriate for name calling. I believe all this identity politics has driven this apparent spike in racist behaviour.

This will never Stop - Until something is done about it ....Sadly those in charge - just take a wage,while others suffer !!!

ant suggestions.

Prosecution with heavy punishment.

Racism is horrible but what heavy punishment is appropriate for name calling. I believe all this identity politics has driven this apparent spike in racist behaviour.

is there a real spike ? I know there are more being caught on TV.
but is it a case of players being encouraged to report every incident where as maybe they would not have previously..
add to that the amount of cameras at football and easier identification of offenders and numbers can look as if they are going up even if actual offences are going down.. I don't think it can be judged until the procedure has been in place for some time.

This will never Stop - Until something is done about it ....Sadly those in charge - just take a wage,while others suffer !!!

ant suggestions.

Prosecution with heavy punishment.

Racism is horrible but what heavy punishment is appropriate for name calling. I believe all this identity politics has driven this apparent spike in racist behaviour.

is there a real spike ? I know there are more being caught on TV.
but is it a case of players being encouraged to report every incident where as maybe they would not have previously..
add to that the amount of cameras at football and easier identification of offenders and numbers can look as if they are going up even if actual offences are going down.. I don't think it can be judged until the procedure has been in place for some time.

That’s why I said apparent mate, like the claimed hate speech bollox that supposedly increased after the Brexit vote but convictions actually dropped.

PM is looking at what can be done in way of laws at football matches! Tbh thats last thing we need look what happened with Maggie and her laws, they are being used in city centres ect ect against footy fans not even making trouble! You get prison and banning orders if fan for minor offences but if joe public does same thing you get a slap on wrist and run along good boy from judges... next at games it will be you cannot swear because cops will pull you in under the new laws for racism ..

This will never Stop - Until something is done about it ....Sadly those in charge - just take a wage,while others suffer !!!

ant suggestions.

Prosecution with heavy punishment.

Racism is horrible but what heavy punishment is appropriate for name calling. I believe all this identity politics has driven this apparent spike in racist behaviour.

is there a real spike ? I know there are more being caught on TV.
but is it a case of players being encouraged to report every incident where as maybe they would not have previously..
add to that the amount of cameras at football and easier identification of offenders and numbers can look as if they are going up even if actual offences are going down.. I don't think it can be judged until the procedure has been in place for some time.

I do think you're right in that many more incidents are publicised nowadays because of improved CCTV and players willingness to stand up against it which is obviously a good thing. But I also think there is an overall increase in people willing to bring race into what they would, wrongly, describe as "banter".

For 10-15 years there was hardly any of that reported in the Prem/Championship but lately it does seem that people are using both casual and direct racist abuse at games that perhaps wouldn't have been tolerated a few years ago. I don't think it's solely a football problem but they certainly need to set an example and deal with it strongly when it happens on their premises.

This will never Stop - Until something is done about it ....Sadly those in charge - just take a wage,while others suffer !!!

ant suggestions.

Prosecution with heavy punishment.

Racism is horrible but what heavy punishment is appropriate for name calling. I believe all this identity politics has driven this apparent spike in racist behaviour.

is there a real spike ? I know there are more being caught on TV.
but is it a case of players being encouraged to report every incident where as maybe they would not have previously..
add to that the amount of cameras at football and easier identification of offenders and numbers can look as if they are going up even if actual offences are going down.. I don't think it can be judged until the procedure has been in place for some time.

I do think you're right in that many more incidents are publicised nowadays because of improved CCTV and players willingness to stand up against it which is obviously a good thing. But I also think there is an overall increase in people willing to bring race into what they would, wrongly, describe as "banter".

For 10-15 years there was hardly any of that reported in the Prem/Championship but lately it does seem that people are using both casual and direct racist abuse at games that perhaps wouldn't have been tolerated a few years ago. I don't think it's solely a football problem but they certainly need to set an example and deal with it strongly when it happens on their premises.

A few years ago some English fans said they wouldn’t cheer a goal if the player was black, Mark Walters was bombarded with Bananas by Celtic fans and Millwall sang they’re rather be a P@ki than a Scouse. Racism is a tiny problem these days, that’s being overblown by these anti racist groups. Think of it like this, how many Cardiff fans do you know that don’t want black players in the side, I don’t know one.

This guy is now blaming Brexit for racism quote

Iffy Onuora, the Professional Footballers' Association's equalities coach told BBC Sport that racism has increased in the UK since Brexit referendum.

"There is upheaval following the [Brexit] referendum and the election and that's caused this fracture," he said.

Racism is a problem with society and just prevails itself at football.
Is it therefore a football problem or much deeper?
Is better education required in schools or is it too far gone now to make a difference.
It shouldn't be tolerated but educating the masses is impossible as there will always be people who just don't care.

This will never Stop - Until something is done about it ....Sadly those in charge - just take a wage,while others suffer !!!

ant suggestions.

Prosecution with heavy punishment.

Racism is horrible but what heavy punishment is appropriate for name calling. I believe all this identity politics has driven this apparent spike in racist behaviour.

is there a real spike ? I know there are more being caught on TV.
but is it a case of players being encouraged to report every incident where as maybe they would not have previously..
add to that the amount of cameras at football and easier identification of offenders and numbers can look as if they are going up even if actual offences are going down.. I don't think it can be judged until the procedure has been in place for some time.

I do think you're right in that many more incidents are publicised nowadays because of improved CCTV and players willingness to stand up against it which is obviously a good thing. But I also think there is an overall increase in people willing to bring race into what they would, wrongly, describe as "banter".

For 10-15 years there was hardly any of that reported in the Prem/Championship but lately it does seem that people are using both casual and direct racist abuse at games that perhaps wouldn't have been tolerated a few years ago. I don't think it's solely a football problem but they certainly need to set an example and deal with it strongly when it happens on their premises.

the key word is reported....ex players are coming out one after another to say they had lots of it when playing.. which suggests the opposite , and that 10 or 15 years ago it was worse and infact far from not being tolerated there was an acceptance that has now gone.... players are now asked to report any racial abuse straight away. which was not the case back then.

This will never Stop - Until something is done about it ....Sadly those in charge - just take a wage,while others suffer !!!

ant suggestions.

Prosecution with heavy punishment.

Racism is horrible but what heavy punishment is appropriate for name calling. I believe all this identity politics has driven this apparent spike in racist behaviour.

is there a real spike ? I know there are more being caught on TV.
but is it a case of players being encouraged to report every incident where as maybe they would not have previously..
add to that the amount of cameras at football and easier identification of offenders and numbers can look as if they are going up even if actual offences are going down.. I don't think it can be judged until the procedure has been in place for some time.

I do think you're right in that many more incidents are publicised nowadays because of improved CCTV and players willingness to stand up against it which is obviously a good thing. But I also think there is an overall increase in people willing to bring race into what they would, wrongly, describe as "banter".

For 10-15 years there was hardly any of that reported in the Prem/Championship but lately it does seem that people are using both casual and direct racist abuse at games that perhaps wouldn't have been tolerated a few years ago. I don't think it's solely a football problem but they certainly need to set an example and deal with it strongly when it happens on their premises.

A few years ago some English fans said they wouldn’t cheer a goal if the player was black, Mark Walters was bombarded with Bananas by Celtic fans and Millwall sang they’re rather be a P@ki than a Scouse. Racism is a tiny problem these days, that’s being overblown by these anti racist groups. Think of it like this, how many Cardiff fans do you know that don’t want black players in the side, I don’t know one.

Anyone who goes to matches on a regular basis knows that racism is a very, very, very , rare occurance at football matches these days. A damn less prevalent than in society as a whole. Unfortunately this doesn't fit the anti - racist cliques agenda and so every perceived racist incident is blown up out of all proportions and willingly spotlighted by the media. Kick It Out and the like are causing far more damage to race relations in this country than some isolated - and I mean isolated -idiots who abuse a black player. We now even have a situation of these people scrutinising the TV to try and pick out people in the crowd who they think are being racist. That scares me.

This guy is now blaming Brexit for racism quote

Iffy Onuora, the Professional Footballers' Association's equalities coach told BBC Sport that racism has increased in the UK since Brexit referendum.

"There is upheaval following the [Brexit] referendum and the election and that's caused this fracture," he said.

Disgusting and takes away from the actual issue.

This will never Stop - Until something is done about it ....Sadly those in charge - just take a wage,while others suffer !!!

ant suggestions.

Prosecution with heavy punishment.

Racism is horrible but what heavy punishment is appropriate for name calling. I believe all this identity politics has driven this apparent spike in racist behaviour.

is there a real spike ? I know there are more being caught on TV.
but is it a case of players being encouraged to report every incident where as maybe they would not have previously..
add to that the amount of cameras at football and easier identification of offenders and numbers can look as if they are going up even if actual offences are going down.. I don't think it can be judged until the procedure has been in place for some time.

I do think you're right in that many more incidents are publicised nowadays because of improved CCTV and players willingness to stand up against it which is obviously a good thing. But I also think there is an overall increase in people willing to bring race into what they would, wrongly, describe as "banter".

For 10-15 years there was hardly any of that reported in the Prem/Championship but lately it does seem that people are using both casual and direct racist abuse at games that perhaps wouldn't have been tolerated a few years ago. I don't think it's solely a football problem but they certainly need to set an example and deal with it strongly when it happens on their premises.

A few years ago some English fans said they wouldn’t cheer a goal if the player was black, Mark Walters was bombarded with Bananas by Celtic fans and Millwall sang they’re rather be a P@ki than a Scouse. Racism is a tiny problem these days, that’s being overblown by these anti racist groups. Think of it like this, how many Cardiff fans do you know that don’t want black players in the side, I don’t know one.

Anyone who goes to matches on a regular basis knows that racism is a very, very, very , rare occurance at football matches these days. A damn less prevalent than in society as a whole. Unfortunately this doesn't fit the anti - racist cliques agenda and so every perceived racist incident is blown up out of all proportions and willingly spotlighted by the media. Kick It Out and the like are causing far more damage to race relations in this country than some isolated - and I mean isolated -idiots who abuse a black player. We now even have a situation of these people scrutinising the TV to try and pick out people in the crowd who they think are being racist. That scares me.

Agreed, from where I am everybody’s bumping along just fine and these anti racism groups are doing more harm than good. Throw in fekkwits like Stormzy and Lily Allen constantly moaning and you could easily believe we’ve all cut holes in our pillow cases.

This will never Stop - Until something is done about it ....Sadly those in charge - just take a wage,while others suffer !!!

ant suggestions.

Prosecution with heavy punishment.

Racism is horrible but what heavy punishment is appropriate for name calling. I believe all this identity politics has driven this apparent spike in racist behaviour.

is there a real spike ? I know there are more being caught on TV.
but is it a case of players being encouraged to report every incident where as maybe they would not have previously..
add to that the amount of cameras at football and easier identification of offenders and numbers can look as if they are going up even if actual offences are going down.. I don't think it can be judged until the procedure has been in place for some time.

I do think you're right in that many more incidents are publicised nowadays because of improved CCTV and players willingness to stand up against it which is obviously a good thing. But I also think there is an overall increase in people willing to bring race into what they would, wrongly, describe as "banter".

For 10-15 years there was hardly any of that reported in the Prem/Championship but lately it does seem that people are using both casual and direct racist abuse at games that perhaps wouldn't have been tolerated a few years ago. I don't think it's solely a football problem but they certainly need to set an example and deal with it strongly when it happens on their premises.

A few years ago some English fans said they wouldn’t cheer a goal if the player was black, Mark Walters was bombarded with Bananas by Celtic fans and Millwall sang they’re rather be a P@ki than a Scouse. Racism is a tiny problem these days, that’s being overblown by these anti racist groups. Think of it like this, how many Cardiff fans do you know that don’t want black players in the side, I don’t know one.

Anyone who goes to matches on a regular basis knows that racism is a very, very, very , rare occurance at football matches these days. A damn less prevalent than in society as a whole. Unfortunately this doesn't fit the anti - racist cliques agenda and so every perceived racist incident is blown up out of all proportions and willingly spotlighted by the media. Kick It Out and the like are causing far more damage to race relations in this country than some isolated - and I mean isolated -idiots who abuse a black player. We now even have a situation of these people scrutinising the TV to try and pick out people in the crowd who they think are being racist. That scares me.

apparently.. there was racist chanting yesterday...chanting ? ..I find that really unlikely and hard to believe myself..one or two making gestures or shouting abuse yes...chanting ffs.. sounds to me like us singing you jack bastards and it being assumed by people who don't know what a jack is that the first word is something different..

Is there a big difference between racial abuse and abuse hurled at a black man by a group of white men ?

This will never Stop - Until something is done about it ....Sadly those in charge - just take a wage,while others suffer !!!

ant suggestions.

Prosecution with heavy punishment.

Racism is horrible but what heavy punishment is appropriate for name calling. I believe all this identity politics has driven this apparent spike in racist behaviour.

is there a real spike ? I know there are more being caught on TV.
but is it a case of players being encouraged to report every incident where as maybe they would not have previously..
add to that the amount of cameras at football and easier identification of offenders and numbers can look as if they are going up even if actual offences are going down.. I don't think it can be judged until the procedure has been in place for some time.

I do think you're right in that many more incidents are publicised nowadays because of improved CCTV and players willingness to stand up against it which is obviously a good thing. But I also think there is an overall increase in people willing to bring race into what they would, wrongly, describe as "banter".

For 10-15 years there was hardly any of that reported in the Prem/Championship but lately it does seem that people are using both casual and direct racist abuse at games that perhaps wouldn't have been tolerated a few years ago. I don't think it's solely a football problem but they certainly need to set an example and deal with it strongly when it happens on their premises.

A few years ago some English fans said they wouldn’t cheer a goal if the player was black, Mark Walters was bombarded with Bananas by Celtic fans and Millwall sang they’re rather be a P@ki than a Scouse. Racism is a tiny problem these days, that’s being overblown by these anti racist groups. Think of it like this, how many Cardiff fans do you know that don’t want black players in the side, I don’t know one.

Anyone who goes to matches on a regular basis knows that racism is a very, very, very , rare occurance at football matches these days. A damn less prevalent than in society as a whole. Unfortunately this doesn't fit the anti - racist cliques agenda and so every perceived racist incident is blown up out of all proportions and willingly spotlighted by the media. Kick It Out and the like are causing far more damage to race relations in this country than some isolated - and I mean isolated -idiots who abuse a black player. We now even have a situation of these people scrutinising the TV to try and pick out people in the crowd who they think are being racist. That scares me.

Spurs are now employing lip readers to try find anyone using racist language at the game!

Whilst it cannot be condoned and people should get life bans ect the people benefiting from all this is the racial groups like kick it out who recently were looking at getting more funding...... but it will end up with fans unable to use chants that have been in football for generations and are not racially motivated, but people like kick it out will seek to use it against normal footy fans

Is there a big difference between racial abuse and abuse hurled at a black man by a group of white men ?

Shelvey got banned for saying..
you arab prick
you arab c**t
you Moroccan prick
you smelly arab c**t

Shelvey disputed the charge claiming he had said...smelly breathed prick.. so yes there is a difference.

To add to my statement that people are using racism to further their own ends we have now got a professor of psychology saying clubs should have someone on bench to offer counselling for the post traumatic stress the abuse causes! At probably 1k an hour good money if you can get it...

So if fans of English Clubs tell us we are sheep shagging bastards should that be deemed as a racist chant?
I know we sing it ourselves and laugh about it!

This will never Stop - Until something is done about it ....Sadly those in charge - just take a wage,while others suffer !!!

ant suggestions.

Prosecution with heavy punishment.

Racism is horrible but what heavy punishment is appropriate for name calling. I believe all this identity politics has driven this apparent spike in racist behaviour.

is there a real spike ? I know there are more being caught on TV.
but is it a case of players being encouraged to report every incident where as maybe they would not have previously..
add to that the amount of cameras at football and easier identification of offenders and numbers can look as if they are going up even if actual offences are going down.. I don't think it can be judged until the procedure has been in place for some time.

I do think you're right in that many more incidents are publicised nowadays because of improved CCTV and players willingness to stand up against it which is obviously a good thing. But I also think there is an overall increase in people willing to bring race into what they would, wrongly, describe as "banter".

For 10-15 years there was hardly any of that reported in the Prem/Championship but lately it does seem that people are using both casual and direct racist abuse at games that perhaps wouldn't have been tolerated a few years ago. I don't think it's solely a football problem but they certainly need to set an example and deal with it strongly when it happens on their premises.

A few years ago some English fans said they wouldn’t cheer a goal if the player was black, Mark Walters was bombarded with Bananas by Celtic fans and Millwall sang they’re rather be a P@ki than a Scouse. Racism is a tiny problem these days, that’s being overblown by these anti racist groups. Think of it like this, how many Cardiff fans do you know that don’t want black players in the side, I don’t know one.

Anyone who goes to matches on a regular basis knows that racism is a very, very, very , rare occurance at football matches these days. A damn less prevalent than in society as a whole. Unfortunately this doesn't fit the anti - racist cliques agenda and so every perceived racist incident is blown up out of all proportions and willingly spotlighted by the media. Kick It Out and the like are causing far more damage to race relations in this country than some isolated - and I mean isolated -idiots who abuse a black player. We now even have a situation of these people scrutinising the TV to try and pick out people in the crowd who they think are being racist. That scares me.

Agreed, from where I am everybody’s bumping along just fine and these anti racism groups are doing more harm than good. Throw in fekkwits like Stormzy and Lily Allen constantly moaning and you could easily believe we’ve all cut holes in our pillow cases.

you can add gary Neville to that list....