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Racism in Italian Football

Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:43 am

This is the poster Italian authorities are using to help combat their racism issues!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50814275
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Re: Racism in Italian Football

Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:48 am

It really is disgusting. Shocking what is considered acceptable in different countries even in those that are deemed first world.

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:53 am

I can see what the artist was trying to say with the pictures but it just does not work in the way they wanted and will be construed as being racist in themselves.

I dont think they have thought it through very well

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Tue Dec 17, 2019 9:17 am

thomasblue wrote:I can see what the artist was trying to say with the pictures but it just does not work in the way they wanted and will be construed as being racist in themselves.

I dont think they have thought it through very well



I cant mate.
you want an anti racist poster so go to...a fella that specialises in painting monkeys ..
what went through the Italian authorities heads I cant begin to imagine. or the designer/painter..

the point is certain people shouldn't be called monkeys .. not that we are all monkeys..

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:18 am

Everything about the images is vile. Given its profile, its way worse than the actions of that vile individual Man City fan. Many people must have been involved in getting to the point where the images are in their campaign and its staggering no one voiced a concern.

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:12 pm

dogfound wrote:
thomasblue wrote:I can see what the artist was trying to say with the pictures but it just does not work in the way they wanted and will be construed as being racist in themselves.

I dont think they have thought it through very well



I cant mate.
you want an anti racist poster so go to...a fella that specialises in painting monkeys ..
what went through the Italian authorities heads I cant begin to imagine. or the designer/painter..

the point is certain people shouldn't be called monkeys .. not that we are all monkeys..


No human is or ever was a monkey. I can prove Darwin's theory of evoke is deeply irrational using logic and reason. Even Darwin himself admitted his theory of evolution was "absurd".
One of the biggest, most damaging mistruths of the last 20 years that has gone fully mainstream, is the mistruth that humans are all animals at heart.

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:28 pm

Total disaster.

Truth is, Italy will always be one of the main countries where there will always be racists. Croatia and Serbia also.

Sad but true.

But let's not forget what happened in the Manchester Derby, there's racism in the UK too which many in the Media seem to forget.

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:28 pm

ElyBoy1984 wrote:
dogfound wrote:
thomasblue wrote:I can see what the artist was trying to say with the pictures but it just does not work in the way they wanted and will be construed as being racist in themselves.

I dont think they have thought it through very well



I cant mate.
you want an anti racist poster so go to...a fella that specialises in painting monkeys ..
what went through the Italian authorities heads I cant begin to imagine. or the designer/painter..

the point is certain people shouldn't be called monkeys .. not that we are all monkeys..


No human is or ever was a monkey. I can prove Darwin's theory of evoke is deeply irrational using logic and reason. Even Darwin himself admitted his theory of evolution was "absurd".
One of the biggest, most damaging mistruths of the last 20 years that has gone fully mainstream, is the mistruth that humans are all animals at heart.


Can't wait for this :happy1: :happy1: :happy1:

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:13 pm

ElyBoy1984 wrote:
dogfound wrote:
thomasblue wrote:I can see what the artist was trying to say with the pictures but it just does not work in the way they wanted and will be construed as being racist in themselves.

I dont think they have thought it through very well



I cant mate.
you want an anti racist poster so go to...a fella that specialises in painting monkeys ..
what went through the Italian authorities heads I cant begin to imagine. or the designer/painter..

the point is certain people shouldn't be called monkeys .. not that we are all monkeys..


No human is or ever was a monkey. I can prove Darwin's theory of evoke is deeply irrational using logic and reason. Even Darwin himself admitted his theory of evolution was "absurd".
One of the biggest, most damaging mistruths of the last 20 years that has gone fully mainstream, is the mistruth that humans are all animals at heart.




ugh... Darwin died more than 20years ago..

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Tue Dec 17, 2019 8:49 pm

Unfortunately Darwin's flawed theory lives and has been used by the marxist revolutionaries on the left to destroy our religeon and nuclear family. Religion would protects us from the sort of brainwashing and "moral relativism" (chaos) we see today. That's why the globalists have taken religion away from us under the guise of setting us free. Infact we are more politically controlled than ever.

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:54 pm

ElyBoy1984 wrote:Unfortunately Darwin's flawed theory lives and has been used by the marxist revolutionaries on the left to destroy our religeon and nuclear family. Religion would protects us from the sort of brainwashing and "moral relativism" (chaos) we see today. That's why the globalists have taken religion away from us under the guise of setting us free. Infact we are more politically controlled than ever.



How come the most peaceful and affluent place in the world (Scandinavia) is the least religious place?

We don't need to listen to the ramblings of delusional ancient desert tribes to find our morality. It is in us. That is what separates us from animals, as you say.

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:23 pm

ElyBoy1984 wrote:Unfortunately Darwin's flawed theory lives and has been used by the marxist revolutionaries on the left to destroy our religeon and nuclear family. Religion would protects us from the sort of brainwashing and "moral relativism" (chaos) we see today. That's why the globalists have taken religion away from us under the guise of setting us free. Infact we are more politically controlled than ever.


Remind me to never leave my drink unattended if I’m ever in Ely

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Wed Dec 18, 2019 12:26 am

BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:Unfortunately Darwin's flawed theory lives and has been used by the marxist revolutionaries on the left to destroy our religeon and nuclear family. Religion would protects us from the sort of brainwashing and "moral relativism" (chaos) we see today. That's why the globalists have taken religion away from us under the guise of setting us free. Infact we are more politically controlled than ever.


Remind me to never leave my drink unattended if I’m ever in Ely


ignorance. No argument at all, just mocking what you don't understand.

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Wed Dec 18, 2019 12:46 am

nubbsy wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:Unfortunately Darwin's flawed theory lives and has been used by the marxist revolutionaries on the left to destroy our religeon and nuclear family. Religion would protects us from the sort of brainwashing and "moral relativism" (chaos) we see today. That's why the globalists have taken religion away from us under the guise of setting us free. Infact we are more politically controlled than ever.



How come the most peaceful and affluent place in the world (Scandinavia) is the least religious place?

We don't need to listen to the ramblings of delusional ancient desert tribes to find our morality. It is in us. That is what separates us from animals, as you say.


Hello nubbsy, Sweden replaced God with Socialism/big government.

Sweden has suffered 200 bombings this year. Has 10% of the population on anti depressants, highest rape stats in Western Europe. An epidemic of children with eating disorders & mental illness (something i personally think stems from feminist mothers prioritising a career over nurture)


Sweden is messed up - Man who raped 12 yr old girl was sentenced to only 50 hours youth community service
But 65yr old woman who wrote "racist" comments on facebook got 3 months jail.

A father was arrested after beating up an armed robber who put a gun to his child.

Sweden is messed up and the population are either to brainwashed to retaliate or too fearful of the government jailing them.
The West has undergone a Cultural Marxist take over since ww2, non more so than Sweden. im pretty sure they disnanded the Swedish church completely in 1990 and now the chickens are coming home to roost big time.

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:16 am

nubbsy wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:Unfortunately Darwin's flawed theory lives and has been used by the marxist revolutionaries on the left to destroy our religeon and nuclear family. Religion would protects us from the sort of brainwashing and "moral relativism" (chaos) we see today. That's why the globalists have taken religion away from us under the guise of setting us free. Infact we are more politically controlled than ever.



How come the most peaceful and affluent place in the world (Scandinavia) is the least religious place?

We don't need to listen to the ramblings of delusional ancient desert tribes to find our morality. It is in us. That is what separates us from animals, as you say.


And i will say this, you can denounce tradition and family values we developed in the Christian tradition. Mock them as your Marxist masters want you to do. But make sure you have an alternative set of values to bind you and society, otherwise your head and morals will be pulled in all sorts of directions by corperate advertising and big government funded by corporations. Who couldn't care about you. They push LGBTQ and increasingly, only accept men if they're gay or atleast effeminate. Thats how they want Western men, childless and and effeminate with no fixed identity or self esteem. To say our morals are in us as God intended is true to a degree but also naive to believe a functioning harmonious society can exist without an external frame work that binds us collectively. Catholicism did so for 2.000 years, we achieved truly amazing things in Europe. But now in the absence of wise Christian teachings who guides us? As it stands we are living in a very cut throat immoral age. People sre unhappy. We are lost to the point that Jo Swinson couldn't define what a woman was in a recent interview. This country has lost all common sense and rationality. And by rationality i mean what the ancient Greeks called "Logos", an idea of the creative order to the universe, another word is God.

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Wed Dec 18, 2019 3:11 am

ElyBoy1984 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:Unfortunately Darwin's flawed theory lives and has been used by the marxist revolutionaries on the left to destroy our religeon and nuclear family. Religion would protects us from the sort of brainwashing and "moral relativism" (chaos) we see today. That's why the globalists have taken religion away from us under the guise of setting us free. Infact we are more politically controlled than ever.



How come the most peaceful and affluent place in the world (Scandinavia) is the least religious place?

We don't need to listen to the ramblings of delusional ancient desert tribes to find our morality. It is in us. That is what separates us from animals, as you say.


And i will say this, you can denounce tradition and family values we developed in the Christian tradition. Mock them as your Marxist masters want you to do. But make sure you have an alternative set of values to bind you and society, otherwise your head and morals will be pulled in all sorts of directions by corperate advertising and big government funded by corporations. Who couldn't care about you. They push LGBTQ and increasingly, only accept men if they're gay or atleast effeminate. Thats how they want Western men, childless and and effeminate with no fixed identity or self esteem. To say our morals are in us as God intended is true to a degree but also naive to believe a functioning harmonious society can exist without an external frame work that binds us collectively. Catholicism did so for 2.000 years, we achieved truly amazing things in Europe. But now in the absence of wise Christian teachings who guides us? As it stands we are living in a very cut throat immoral age. People sre unhappy. We are lost to the point that Jo Swinson couldn't define what a woman was in a recent interview. This country has lost all common sense and rationality. And by rationality i mean what the ancient Greeks called "Logos", an idea of the creative order to the universe, another word is God.


I bet you think Global Warming isn't real either? My word, go and read a book, facts are facts.

If people stopped believing in imaginary gods in the sky, the world would be better off.

Annoys me that morons like you spout utter tripe without any citation.

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:28 am

Anyway...... the poster images have gone down a treat and Italians big clubs distancing themselves from it no doubt shitting themselves about commercial fall out.

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Wed Dec 18, 2019 9:06 am

jamie1927 wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:Unfortunately Darwin's flawed theory lives and has been used by the marxist revolutionaries on the left to destroy our religeon and nuclear family. Religion would protects us from the sort of brainwashing and "moral relativism" (chaos) we see today. That's why the globalists have taken religion away from us under the guise of setting us free. Infact we are more politically controlled than ever.



How come the most peaceful and affluent place in the world (Scandinavia) is the least religious place?

We don't need to listen to the ramblings of delusional ancient desert tribes to find our morality. It is in us. That is what separates us from animals, as you say.


And i will say this, you can denounce tradition and family values we developed in the Christian tradition. Mock them as your Marxist masters want you to do. But make sure you have an alternative set of values to bind you and society, otherwise your head and morals will be pulled in all sorts of directions by corperate advertising and big government funded by corporations. Who couldn't care about you. They push LGBTQ and increasingly, only accept men if they're gay or atleast effeminate. Thats how they want Western men, childless and and effeminate with no fixed identity or self esteem. To say our morals are in us as God intended is true to a degree but also naive to believe a functioning harmonious society can exist without an external frame work that binds us collectively. Catholicism did so for 2.000 years, we achieved truly amazing things in Europe. But now in the absence of wise Christian teachings who guides us? As it stands we are living in a very cut throat immoral age. People sre unhappy. We are lost to the point that Jo Swinson couldn't define what a woman was in a recent interview. This country has lost all common sense and rationality. And by rationality i mean what the ancient Greeks called "Logos", an idea of the creative order to the universe, another word is God.


I bet you think Global Warming isn't real either? My word, go and read a book, facts are facts.

If people stopped believing in imaginary gods in the sky, the world would be better off.

Annoys me that morons like you spout utter tripe without any citation.


I don't know why you're insulting me Personally, calling me a moron or requesting citation...
Why haven't you provided citation for atheism? You can't that's why, you can't even rationally debunk the idea of a creator. Atheism is deeply irrational, you can NOT create a world from nothing. Within SCIENCE (meta physics) this is an accepted fact. Discredited Atheist poster boy Richard Dawkins hit this brick wall and basically says "shit happens" so that is your belief system? "Shit happens" ...
The rise of new Atheism promoted by the globalists has been dead for over 5 years. Richard Dawkins, Dennet, Hitchens couldn't even rationalise evolution because it's absurd.

Every single tribe ever studied by anthropologists have believed in a creator external of earth. Which leads me to your next point, if for Atheists there is no God, who is in charge?...... The rich and powerful thats who, they have diluted your ability to reason. But they are God in your world so the Globalists, as the new God, must create a belief system. Which brings me to the man made climate "emergency" and how the extinction Rebellion movement mirrors an actual religion without the rationality, reason or wisdom of Christianity. Except Logos isn't in charge of the world George Soros is. i'm pretty sure a Soros foundation was actually paying climate change activists to protest in London. These eco-activists have had their innate religious impulse manipulated into serving their globalist masters and this tax raising deity called "the climate EMERGENCY. Their manufactured prophet is Greta Thunberg, a child with no idea about the world, according to her mother's memoirs, Greta can *see* carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Lol so she's a prophet with supernatural powers, tapping into the mysticism...honestly, West Civilisation is in an absolute state.

The climate change data used by todays eco-nuts is from East Anglia research centre in America. Which was embroiled in scandal when emails were leaked explaining how they were trying to fudge the data and mislead people into believing the co2 "emergency". Also, it came to light that the co2 measuring boxes from that flawed study were placed near heavy traffic, which distorted the results in the direction of a co2 emergency. This was all exposed at the time and conveniently forgotten. Which billionaire funded the research at East Anglia research centre.... ?:D

Here is a link to an illuminating bitchute discussion , covering the climate scam, Greta Thunberg and the mess Sweden are in.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/4Sf7ToTA2N6h/

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:24 pm

I have truly heard it all now "religion saves us from brainwashing". Well I will not go there for obvious reasons.To predicate the basis for order is religion ignores the wholesale slaughter within Europe for centuries as one example.The inability of humans to reason and find a mutual path was primarily based on "accepted" and rigid dogmas; my way or the highway so to speak.Equally decency is not derived from religion(s) it preceded it.Those of us brought up in a religious household will be aware of the importance of rules and " unchallengeable truths".At the basis of this is fear, a fear of punishment eternal and awful, if one does not adhere to said dogmas. So if fear is the basis for order and good behaviour where does that leave us? As for the Italians nothing will be done my daughters mate lived out there it is rampant and wholly accepted in everyday life never mind football!

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:00 pm

ElyBoy1984 wrote:
jamie1927 wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:Unfortunately Darwin's flawed theory lives and has been used by the marxist revolutionaries on the left to destroy our religeon and nuclear family. Religion would protects us from the sort of brainwashing and "moral relativism" (chaos) we see today. That's why the globalists have taken religion away from us under the guise of setting us free. Infact we are more politically controlled than ever.



How come the most peaceful and affluent place in the world (Scandinavia) is the least religious place?

We don't need to listen to the ramblings of delusional ancient desert tribes to find our morality. It is in us. That is what separates us from animals, as you say.


And i will say this, you can denounce tradition and family values we developed in the Christian tradition. Mock them as your Marxist masters want you to do. But make sure you have an alternative set of values to bind you and society, otherwise your head and morals will be pulled in all sorts of directions by corperate advertising and big government funded by corporations. Who couldn't care about you. They push LGBTQ and increasingly, only accept men if they're gay or atleast effeminate. Thats how they want Western men, childless and and effeminate with no fixed identity or self esteem. To say our morals are in us as God intended is true to a degree but also naive to believe a functioning harmonious society can exist without an external frame work that binds us collectively. Catholicism did so for 2.000 years, we achieved truly amazing things in Europe. But now in the absence of wise Christian teachings who guides us? As it stands we are living in a very cut throat immoral age. People sre unhappy. We are lost to the point that Jo Swinson couldn't define what a woman was in a recent interview. This country has lost all common sense and rationality. And by rationality i mean what the ancient Greeks called "Logos", an idea of the creative order to the universe, another word is God.


I bet you think Global Warming isn't real either? My word, go and read a book, facts are facts.

If people stopped believing in imaginary gods in the sky, the world would be better off.

Annoys me that morons like you spout utter tripe without any citation.


I don't know why you're insulting me Personally, calling me a moron or requesting citation...
Why haven't you provided citation for atheism? You can't that's why, you can't even rationally debunk the idea of a creator. Atheism is deeply irrational, you can NOT create a world from nothing. Within SCIENCE (meta physics) this is an accepted fact. Discredited Atheist poster boy Richard Dawkins hit this brick wall and basically says "shit happens" so that is your belief system? "Shit happens" ...
The rise of new Atheism promoted by the globalists has been dead for over 5 years. Richard Dawkins, Dennet, Hitchens couldn't even rationalise evolution because it's absurd.

Every single tribe ever studied by anthropologists have believed in a creator external of earth. Which leads me to your next point, if for Atheists there is no God, who is in charge?...... The rich and powerful thats who, they have diluted your ability to reason. But they are God in your world so the Globalists, as the new God, must create a belief system. Which brings me to the man made climate "emergency" and how the extinction Rebellion movement mirrors an actual religion without the rationality, reason or wisdom of Christianity. Except Logos isn't in charge of the world George Soros is. i'm pretty sure a Soros foundation was actually paying climate change activists to protest in London. These eco-activists have had their innate religious impulse manipulated into serving their globalist masters and this tax raising deity called "the climate EMERGENCY. Their manufactured prophet is Greta Thunberg, a child with no idea about the world, according to her mother's memoirs, Greta can *see* carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Lol so she's a prophet with supernatural powers, tapping into the mysticism...honestly, West Civilisation is in an absolute state.

The climate change data used by todays eco-nuts is from East Anglia research centre in America. Which was embroiled in scandal when emails were leaked explaining how they were trying to fudge the data and mislead people into believing the co2 "emergency". Also, it came to light that the co2 measuring boxes from that flawed study were placed near heavy traffic, which distorted the results in the direction of a co2 emergency. This was all exposed at the time and conveniently forgotten. Which billionaire funded the research at East Anglia research centre.... ?:D

Here is a link to an illuminating bitchute discussion , covering the climate scam, Greta Thunberg and the mess Sweden are in.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/4Sf7ToTA2N6h/


I don't want to knock your faith but can you explain the talking snake in Eden and the absence of dinosaurs in the Bible?

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:18 pm

Panzermouse wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:
jamie1927 wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:Unfortunately Darwin's flawed theory lives and has been used by the marxist revolutionaries on the left to destroy our religeon and nuclear family. Religion would protects us from the sort of brainwashing and "moral relativism" (chaos) we see today. That's why the globalists have taken religion away from us under the guise of setting us free. Infact we are more politically controlled than ever.



How come the most peaceful and affluent place in the world (Scandinavia) is the least religious place?

We don't need to listen to the ramblings of delusional ancient desert tribes to find our morality. It is in us. That is what separates us from animals, as you say.


And i will say this, you can denounce tradition and family values we developed in the Christian tradition. Mock them as your Marxist masters want you to do. But make sure you have an alternative set of values to bind you and society, otherwise your head and morals will be pulled in all sorts of directions by corperate advertising and big government funded by corporations. Who couldn't care about you. They push LGBTQ and increasingly, only accept men if they're gay or atleast effeminate. Thats how they want Western men, childless and and effeminate with no fixed identity or self esteem. To say our morals are in us as God intended is true to a degree but also naive to believe a functioning harmonious society can exist without an external frame work that binds us collectively. Catholicism did so for 2.000 years, we achieved truly amazing things in Europe. But now in the absence of wise Christian teachings who guides us? As it stands we are living in a very cut throat immoral age. People sre unhappy. We are lost to the point that Jo Swinson couldn't define what a woman was in a recent interview. This country has lost all common sense and rationality. And by rationality i mean what the ancient Greeks called "Logos", an idea of the creative order to the universe, another word is God.


I bet you think Global Warming isn't real either? My word, go and read a book, facts are facts.

If people stopped believing in imaginary gods in the sky, the world would be better off.

Annoys me that morons like you spout utter tripe without any citation.


I don't know why you're insulting me Personally, calling me a moron or requesting citation...
Why haven't you provided citation for atheism? You can't that's why, you can't even rationally debunk the idea of a creator. Atheism is deeply irrational, you can NOT create a world from nothing. Within SCIENCE (meta physics) this is an accepted fact. Discredited Atheist poster boy Richard Dawkins hit this brick wall and basically says "shit happens" so that is your belief system? "Shit happens" ...
The rise of new Atheism promoted by the globalists has been dead for over 5 years. Richard Dawkins, Dennet, Hitchens couldn't even rationalise evolution because it's absurd.

Every single tribe ever studied by anthropologists have believed in a creator external of earth. Which leads me to your next point, if for Atheists there is no God, who is in charge?...... The rich and powerful thats who, they have diluted your ability to reason. But they are God in your world so the Globalists, as the new God, must create a belief system. Which brings me to the man made climate "emergency" and how the extinction Rebellion movement mirrors an actual religion without the rationality, reason or wisdom of Christianity. Except Logos isn't in charge of the world George Soros is. i'm pretty sure a Soros foundation was actually paying climate change activists to protest in London. These eco-activists have had their innate religious impulse manipulated into serving their globalist masters and this tax raising deity called "the climate EMERGENCY. Their manufactured prophet is Greta Thunberg, a child with no idea about the world, according to her mother's memoirs, Greta can *see* carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Lol so she's a prophet with supernatural powers, tapping into the mysticism...honestly, West Civilisation is in an absolute state.

The climate change data used by todays eco-nuts is from East Anglia research centre in America. Which was embroiled in scandal when emails were leaked explaining how they were trying to fudge the data and mislead people into believing the co2 "emergency". Also, it came to light that the co2 measuring boxes from that flawed study were placed near heavy traffic, which distorted the results in the direction of a co2 emergency. This was all exposed at the time and conveniently forgotten. Which billionaire funded the research at East Anglia research centre.... ?:D

Here is a link to an illuminating bitchute discussion , covering the climate scam, Greta Thunberg and the mess Sweden are in.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/4Sf7ToTA2N6h/


I don't want to knock your faith but can you explain the talking snake in Eden and the absence of dinosaurs in the Bible?


Hello mate, I'm no expert on biblical scripture, my entrance into Catholcism was through Greek philosophy, who approach things more rationally through Logos. What i will say is that metaphor is used in the bible, so maybe the snake was a decietful man or back stabber. I couldn't say as im not familiar. i think that is a distraction to be fair. Everybodies first question should be: What came before creation? You can not create something from nothing. It's impossible. So who or what created or reality?

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:09 pm

Jimmy Scoular wrote:I have truly heard it all now "religion saves us from brainwashing". Well I will not go there for obvious reasons.To predicate the basis for order is religion ignores the wholesale slaughter within Europe for centuries as one example.The inability of humans to reason and find a mutual path was primarily based on "accepted" and rigid dogmas; my way or the highway so to speak.Equally decency is not derived from religion(s) it preceded it.Those of us brought up in a religious household will be aware of the importance of rules and " unchallengeable truths".At the basis of this is fear, a fear of punishment eternal and awful, if one does not adhere to said dogmas. So if fear is the basis for order and good behaviour where does that leave us? As for the Italians nothing will be done my daughters mate lived out there it is rampant and wholly accepted in everyday life never mind football!


Hello Jimmy, I see the biggest brainwashing today as corporate, they're funding marxism in academia and media. It's twisting our heads up to the point of sky high male suicide, mental illness and declining birth rates, as a population we are shrinking. 3 symptoms of a sick society.


On wars, Christianity isn't ublemished but is a largely peaceful religion. Portraying mass murder as a Christrian trait is a very bad missrepresentation in my opinion. Surely you don't believe that?

The biggest most callous murderers in Europe were all tyrannical regimes that systematicly removed God from their societies before oppressing them. This has been happening in the West since the late 50s. We are sleep walking into a form of tyranny in my view.

Historicly in Europe, atheist Communists starved 4-12 million Christians to Death in the Ukraine. The Atheist communists murdered from 20-60 million people. including upto 11 million Germans and collaboraters AFTER the war in 45.

You say religion is based on fear. I think it's more to do with being responsible for immoral actions. I have no problem with that. Our ultimate judge is not human if we're good men there's nothing to fear. Would you rather a politician or Globalist billionaires play God? Because that's the alternative for us as a society. I'll take my chances with our creator every time.

The West is in a state morally, people are lost, it's a moral free for all based on rational self interest. from speaking to collagues we know things are bad but nobody has the togetherness or moral authority to fight back against a political and corperate elite who are edging us into a form of marxist tyranny. Mass immigration, identity politics and porn are some of the trojan horses demoralising us Western men into docile subservience. Christianity would protect us, bind us all and importantly give us the moral authority to argue against what i see as a sleep walking into Global Communism. I say this because the bible know this enemy well.i don't want to get too biblical but you grew up in a religious house. those that know The Gospel of John and book of revalations. They are named explicitly without metaphor or doubt who they are today. They aren't Muslim but geographically close...

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:53 pm

What a f*cking header you are elyboy doing drugs this early in the week.

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:12 pm

Panzermouse wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:
jamie1927 wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:Unfortunately Darwin's flawed theory lives and has been used by the marxist revolutionaries on the left to destroy our religeon and nuclear family. Religion would protects us from the sort of brainwashing and "moral relativism" (chaos) we see today. That's why the globalists have taken religion away from us under the guise of setting us free. Infact we are more politically controlled than ever.



How come the most peaceful and affluent place in the world (Scandinavia) is the least religious place?

We don't need to listen to the ramblings of delusional ancient desert tribes to find our morality. It is in us. That is what separates us from animals, as you say.


And i will say this, you can denounce tradition and family values we developed in the Christian tradition. Mock them as your Marxist masters want you to do. But make sure you have an alternative set of values to bind you and society, otherwise your head and morals will be pulled in all sorts of directions by corperate advertising and big government funded by corporations. Who couldn't care about you. They push LGBTQ and increasingly, only accept men if they're gay or atleast effeminate. Thats how they want Western men, childless and and effeminate with no fixed identity or self esteem. To say our morals are in us as God intended is true to a degree but also naive to believe a functioning harmonious society can exist without an external frame work that binds us collectively. Catholicism did so for 2.000 years, we achieved truly amazing things in Europe. But now in the absence of wise Christian teachings who guides us? As it stands we are living in a very cut throat immoral age. People sre unhappy. We are lost to the point that Jo Swinson couldn't define what a woman was in a recent interview. This country has lost all common sense and rationality. And by rationality i mean what the ancient Greeks called "Logos", an idea of the creative order to the universe, another word is God.


I bet you think Global Warming isn't real either? My word, go and read a book, facts are facts.

If people stopped believing in imaginary gods in the sky, the world would be better off.

Annoys me that morons like you spout utter tripe without any citation.


I don't know why you're insulting me Personally, calling me a moron or requesting citation...
Why haven't you provided citation for atheism? You can't that's why, you can't even rationally debunk the idea of a creator. Atheism is deeply irrational, you can NOT create a world from nothing. Within SCIENCE (meta physics) this is an accepted fact. Discredited Atheist poster boy Richard Dawkins hit this brick wall and basically says "shit happens" so that is your belief system? "Shit happens" ...
The rise of new Atheism promoted by the globalists has been dead for over 5 years. Richard Dawkins, Dennet, Hitchens couldn't even rationalise evolution because it's absurd.

Every single tribe ever studied by anthropologists have believed in a creator external of earth. Which leads me to your next point, if for Atheists there is no God, who is in charge?...... The rich and powerful thats who, they have diluted your ability to reason. But they are God in your world so the Globalists, as the new God, must create a belief system. Which brings me to the man made climate "emergency" and how the extinction Rebellion movement mirrors an actual religion without the rationality, reason or wisdom of Christianity. Except Logos isn't in charge of the world George Soros is. i'm pretty sure a Soros foundation was actually paying climate change activists to protest in London. These eco-activists have had their innate religious impulse manipulated into serving their globalist masters and this tax raising deity called "the climate EMERGENCY. Their manufactured prophet is Greta Thunberg, a child with no idea about the world, according to her mother's memoirs, Greta can *see* carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Lol so she's a prophet with supernatural powers, tapping into the mysticism...honestly, West Civilisation is in an absolute state.

The climate change data used by todays eco-nuts is from East Anglia research centre in America. Which was embroiled in scandal when emails were leaked explaining how they were trying to fudge the data and mislead people into believing the co2 "emergency". Also, it came to light that the co2 measuring boxes from that flawed study were placed near heavy traffic, which distorted the results in the direction of a co2 emergency. This was all exposed at the time and conveniently forgotten. Which billionaire funded the research at East Anglia research centre.... ?:D

Here is a link to an illuminating bitchute discussion , covering the climate scam, Greta Thunberg and the mess Sweden are in.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/4Sf7ToTA2N6h/


I don't want to knock your faith but can you explain the talking snake in Eden and the absence of dinosaurs in the Bible?



I thought the snake was satan in the form of a snake ?

although what dinosaurs and snakes have to do with the monkey poster I have no idea...

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:43 am

ElyBoy1984 wrote:
Panzermouse wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:
jamie1927 wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:Unfortunately Darwin's flawed theory lives and has been used by the marxist revolutionaries on the left to destroy our religeon and nuclear family. Religion would protects us from the sort of brainwashing and "moral relativism" (chaos) we see today. That's why the globalists have taken religion away from us under the guise of setting us free. Infact we are more politically controlled than ever.



How come the most peaceful and affluent place in the world (Scandinavia) is the least religious place?

We don't need to listen to the ramblings of delusional ancient desert tribes to find our morality. It is in us. That is what separates us from animals, as you say.


And i will say this, you can denounce tradition and family values we developed in the Christian tradition. Mock them as your Marxist masters want you to do. But make sure you have an alternative set of values to bind you and society, otherwise your head and morals will be pulled in all sorts of directions by corperate advertising and big government funded by corporations. Who couldn't care about you. They push LGBTQ and increasingly, only accept men if they're gay or atleast effeminate. Thats how they want Western men, childless and and effeminate with no fixed identity or self esteem. To say our morals are in us as God intended is true to a degree but also naive to believe a functioning harmonious society can exist without an external frame work that binds us collectively. Catholicism did so for 2.000 years, we achieved truly amazing things in Europe. But now in the absence of wise Christian teachings who guides us? As it stands we are living in a very cut throat immoral age. People sre unhappy. We are lost to the point that Jo Swinson couldn't define what a woman was in a recent interview. This country has lost all common sense and rationality. And by rationality i mean what the ancient Greeks called "Logos", an idea of the creative order to the universe, another word is God.


I bet you think Global Warming isn't real either? My word, go and read a book, facts are facts.

If people stopped believing in imaginary gods in the sky, the world would be better off.

Annoys me that morons like you spout utter tripe without any citation.


I don't know why you're insulting me Personally, calling me a moron or requesting citation...
Why haven't you provided citation for atheism? You can't that's why, you can't even rationally debunk the idea of a creator. Atheism is deeply irrational, you can NOT create a world from nothing. Within SCIENCE (meta physics) this is an accepted fact. Discredited Atheist poster boy Richard Dawkins hit this brick wall and basically says "shit happens" so that is your belief system? "Shit happens" ...
The rise of new Atheism promoted by the globalists has been dead for over 5 years. Richard Dawkins, Dennet, Hitchens couldn't even rationalise evolution because it's absurd.

Every single tribe ever studied by anthropologists have believed in a creator external of earth. Which leads me to your next point, if for Atheists there is no God, who is in charge?...... The rich and powerful thats who, they have diluted your ability to reason. But they are God in your world so the Globalists, as the new God, must create a belief system. Which brings me to the man made climate "emergency" and how the extinction Rebellion movement mirrors an actual religion without the rationality, reason or wisdom of Christianity. Except Logos isn't in charge of the world George Soros is. i'm pretty sure a Soros foundation was actually paying climate change activists to protest in London. These eco-activists have had their innate religious impulse manipulated into serving their globalist masters and this tax raising deity called "the climate EMERGENCY. Their manufactured prophet is Greta Thunberg, a child with no idea about the world, according to her mother's memoirs, Greta can *see* carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Lol so she's a prophet with supernatural powers, tapping into the mysticism...honestly, West Civilisation is in an absolute state.

The climate change data used by todays eco-nuts is from East Anglia research centre in America. Which was embroiled in scandal when emails were leaked explaining how they were trying to fudge the data and mislead people into believing the co2 "emergency". Also, it came to light that the co2 measuring boxes from that flawed study were placed near heavy traffic, which distorted the results in the direction of a co2 emergency. This was all exposed at the time and conveniently forgotten. Which billionaire funded the research at East Anglia research centre.... ?:D

Here is a link to an illuminating bitchute discussion , covering the climate scam, Greta Thunberg and the mess Sweden are in.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/4Sf7ToTA2N6h/


I don't want to knock your faith but can you explain the talking snake in Eden and the absence of dinosaurs in the Bible?


Hello mate, I'm no expert on biblical scripture, my entrance into Catholcism was through Greek philosophy, who approach things more rationally through Logos. What i will say is that metaphor is used in the bible, so maybe the snake was a decietful man or back stabber. I couldn't say as im not familiar. i think that is a distraction to be fair. Everybodies first question should be: What came before creation? You can not create something from nothing. It's impossible. So who or what created or reality?


What came before God? You can not create something from nothing. It's impossible. So who or what created God?

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:18 am

BluebirdWhitchurch wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:
Panzermouse wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:
jamie1927 wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:Unfortunately Darwin's flawed theory lives and has been used by the marxist revolutionaries on the left to destroy our religeon and nuclear family. Religion would protects us from the sort of brainwashing and "moral relativism" (chaos) we see today. That's why the globalists have taken religion away from us under the guise of setting us free. Infact we are more politically controlled than ever.



How come the most peaceful and affluent place in the world (Scandinavia) is the least religious place?

We don't need to listen to the ramblings of delusional ancient desert tribes to find our morality. It is in us. That is what separates us from animals, as you say.


And i will say this, you can denounce tradition and family values we developed in the Christian tradition. Mock them as your Marxist masters want you to do. But make sure you have an alternative set of values to bind you and society, otherwise your head and morals will be pulled in all sorts of directions by corperate advertising and big government funded by corporations. Who couldn't care about you. They push LGBTQ and increasingly, only accept men if they're gay or atleast effeminate. Thats how they want Western men, childless and and effeminate with no fixed identity or self esteem. To say our morals are in us as God intended is true to a degree but also naive to believe a functioning harmonious society can exist without an external frame work that binds us collectively. Catholicism did so for 2.000 years, we achieved truly amazing things in Europe. But now in the absence of wise Christian teachings who guides us? As it stands we are living in a very cut throat immoral age. People sre unhappy. We are lost to the point that Jo Swinson couldn't define what a woman was in a recent interview. This country has lost all common sense and rationality. And by rationality i mean what the ancient Greeks called "Logos", an idea of the creative order to the universe, another word is God.


I bet you think Global Warming isn't real either? My word, go and read a book, facts are facts.

If people stopped believing in imaginary gods in the sky, the world would be better off.

Annoys me that morons like you spout utter tripe without any citation.


I don't know why you're insulting me Personally, calling me a moron or requesting citation...
Why haven't you provided citation for atheism? You can't that's why, you can't even rationally debunk the idea of a creator. Atheism is deeply irrational, you can NOT create a world from nothing. Within SCIENCE (meta physics) this is an accepted fact. Discredited Atheist poster boy Richard Dawkins hit this brick wall and basically says "shit happens" so that is your belief system? "Shit happens" ...
The rise of new Atheism promoted by the globalists has been dead for over 5 years. Richard Dawkins, Dennet, Hitchens couldn't even rationalise evolution because it's absurd.

Every single tribe ever studied by anthropologists have believed in a creator external of earth. Which leads me to your next point, if for Atheists there is no God, who is in charge?...... The rich and powerful thats who, they have diluted your ability to reason. But they are God in your world so the Globalists, as the new God, must create a belief system. Which brings me to the man made climate "emergency" and how the extinction Rebellion movement mirrors an actual religion without the rationality, reason or wisdom of Christianity. Except Logos isn't in charge of the world George Soros is. i'm pretty sure a Soros foundation was actually paying climate change activists to protest in London. These eco-activists have had their innate religious impulse manipulated into serving their globalist masters and this tax raising deity called "the climate EMERGENCY. Their manufactured prophet is Greta Thunberg, a child with no idea about the world, according to her mother's memoirs, Greta can *see* carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Lol so she's a prophet with supernatural powers, tapping into the mysticism...honestly, West Civilisation is in an absolute state.

The climate change data used by todays eco-nuts is from East Anglia research centre in America. Which was embroiled in scandal when emails were leaked explaining how they were trying to fudge the data and mislead people into believing the co2 "emergency". Also, it came to light that the co2 measuring boxes from that flawed study were placed near heavy traffic, which distorted the results in the direction of a co2 emergency. This was all exposed at the time and conveniently forgotten. Which billionaire funded the research at East Anglia research centre.... ?:D

Here is a link to an illuminating bitchute discussion , covering the climate scam, Greta Thunberg and the mess Sweden are in.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/4Sf7ToTA2N6h/


I don't want to knock your faith but can you explain the talking snake in Eden and the absence of dinosaurs in the Bible?


Hello mate, I'm no expert on biblical scripture, my entrance into Catholcism was through Greek philosophy, who approach things more rationally through Logos. What i will say is that metaphor is used in the bible, so maybe the snake was a decietful man or back stabber. I couldn't say as im not familiar. i think that is a distraction to be fair. Everybodies first question should be: What came before creation? You can not create something from nothing. It's impossible. So who or what created or reality?


What came before God? You can not create something from nothing. It's impossible. So who or what created God?


You can't judge our creator by the rules of humanity. He's not of the flesh. But you seem to understand it impossible that a complex beautiful universe arose out of thin air or evolved from basic cells . It's irrational and scientificly impossible. By rights These discussions should be on mainstream television but that would lead to a rising of consciousness, The last thing Globalists want is people thinking independently of their control, they've always hated Christianity for this reason. Do you think the islamic replacement in the West is an accident ...? Who do you think have politicised and used LGBTQ and radical feminism to undermine the social order. i'd hate to be a young heterosexual lad growing up today, they've had their self esteem and pride removed from them. Any natural instincts are condemned as toxic "masculinity". Unless you're Stormzy then it's a free pass.
As it stands, the globalists are "playing" God, they control our academia, the think tanks devising policy, the media. a situation exemplified by the fatuous climate emergency. If climate change were real it would be debated by scientists not a 16 year old girl. Once people realise how we're being manipulated on climate change their house of cards fall in. All their contorting of history comes into question.

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:00 am

Llan_Blue wrote:What a f*cking header you are elyboy doing drugs this early in the week.


understand why you say that, religion and politics are heavy subjects.
People haven't seen the relevant facts and think we live in a much more sane world than we actually do.

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:49 am

ElyBoy1984 wrote:
Llan_Blue wrote:What a f*cking header you are elyboy doing drugs this early in the week.


understand why you say that, religion and politics are heavy subjects.
People haven't seen the relevant facts and think we live in a much more sane world than we actually do.



agree with quite a bit of what your saying. but your trying to kill a flock of birds with one stone
we are defo living in a world where what are or were allowed opinions are limited ,stifled and frowned upon..
no debate. if you think something or see something a little differently it gets shut down almost immediately as the IC ,ISM and IST words start flying about.. under the guise of tolerance when its completely intolerant... and it all seems to have happened very quickly...

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:53 am

This is about racism, not your made up fairy in the sky

Re: Racism in Italian Football

Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:10 am

The topic did drift but that happens. Initially i responded to somebody suggesting we evolved from monkeys. Which is Darwin's deeply irrational theory of evolution promoted by globalists with their roots in Communism. This theory (lie) has been very damaging and used to excuse all manner of immoral behaviour, turning us from spiritually men with morals into greedy "creatures" of rational self interest. If people want to be subtley stripped of an identity or morals in the name of Marxism that's fine. But i should be allowed to point out it's intellectual flaws. Which i did, probably badly but hey ho.
So why the hostility? People are hostile to Christianity because there's been a heavily funded campaign to promote Atheism & remove christianity from society. They're using the same anti Christian brain washing methods devised by Joeseph Stalin in Communist Russia. They're the same billionaire marxists funding all the subversive Anti Family movements that dominate our Government pressure groups and media today(LGBTQ, Mass Immigration, Radical Feminism, Antifa) All these groups are being USED by Neo-Communist billionaires to destroy our culture from within. Our society has been infiltrated, we're moving towards Communism.

Yesterday in America a Christian man was sentanced to 16 years prison for removing a rainbow flag from his Church doorway.

Yesterday in Britain, a grooming gang were sentenced to just 8 years for raping a 12 year old girl who had just lost her father and was very vulnerable. They will be out in FOUR years.

Wake up!

If you're an Atheist saying we aren't the result of a creator then that's an irrational position and you're playing into the hands of Neo Communists funding these movements. their sole purpose? destroy our moral base, while you defer critical thought to others and watch porn or other trivial distractions. Check this image from a Jewish Italian Communist named Antonio Gramsci. He is the God father of todays movements psychologically destroying the West.
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