‘ Cardiff players showing Harris they are worth keeping ‘

NEIL HARRIS:

"Glatzel, Whyte, Will Vaulks, Joe Ralls, people I've not seen on the pitch for us since I've come in. That was one of the reason to give people opportunities - Morrison, the same.”

"I want to give them opportunities to impress because a lot of players have had opportunities, we have a big squad.”

"At 3-1, you're looking at Glatzel and Whyte and saying, 'Go on and make an impact' and they both did."

“I have to decide in January who will stay and who will leave, we have to move some players out.”

“If I can move Four or five players on, I will be able to bring in one or two players.”

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Maybe one or two surprises moving on methinks.

Maybe one or two surprises moving on methinks.

Well he knows where needs improvement so may have to sacrifice players to get new recruits in right positions even if doesnt want them to go!

Sometimes it’s much more difficult moving players on than it seems.
The favourite saying on here - “just get rid” - is laughable at times.

Providing we can sell them (I.E if any clubs want to buy them)

I can see any of Brian Murphy, Josh Murphy, Bogle, Smithies, Paterson, Day, Traore leaving us

Obviously players like Traore has his contract expire this month, and Brain Murphy won’t be Expensive to buy out his contract, but I’m just saying everyone who’s here at the moment that won’t surprise me that they’ll leave in Janurary.

Providing we can sell them (I.E if any clubs want to buy them)

I can see any of Brian Murphy, Josh Murphy, Bogle, Smithies, Paterson, Day, Traore leaving us

Obviously players like Traore has his contract expire this month, and Brain Murphy won’t be Expensive to buy out his contract, but I’m just saying everyone who’s here at the moment that won’t surprise me that they’ll leave in Janurary.

We are not going to get rid of Smithies and Day, that would leave us with one keeper. I'd imagine Smithies will be going though and Day will be our second keeper. Or if a decent offer comes in Etheridge will be sold.
I agree, I think Josh Murphy and Bogle will be gone. I still don't know how Patterson fits into this team so he could be a surprise departure. If Harris can get cover for our fullbacks, Brown and Coxe might be loaned out. I think the only reason why they weren't at the start of the season is because we dont have cover for Peltier and Bennet.

What is Connolly's situation? He was on the verge of going out on loan last year until we had a few injuries. He could/should be looking to leave if he isnt injured.

Get rid of :

Day
Richard's
Connolly
Bogle
Glatzel
Vassell
Traore

Send out on loan :

Brown
Coxe
Whyte

Providing we can sell them (I.E if any clubs want to buy them)

I can see any of Brian Murphy, Josh Murphy, Bogle, Smithies, Paterson, Day, Traore leaving us

Obviously players like Traore has his contract expire this month, and Brain Murphy won’t be Expensive to buy out his contract, but I’m just saying everyone who’s here at the moment that won’t surprise me that they’ll leave in Janurary.

We are not going to get rid of Smithies and Day, that would leave us with one keeper. I'd imagine Smithies will be going though and Day will be our second keeper. Or if a decent offer comes in Etheridge will be sold.
I agree, I think Josh Murphy and Bogle will be gone. I still don't know how Patterson fits into this team so he could be a surprise departure. If Harris can get cover for our fullbacks, Brown and Coxe might be loaned out. I think the only reason why they weren't at the start of the season is because we dont have cover for Peltier and Bennet.

What is Connolly's situation? He was on the verge of going out on loan last year until we had a few injuries. He could/should be looking to leave if he isnt injured.

Day is awful , Murphy is a much better keeper and should be #2 if we sell one of the others

Get rid of :

Day
Richard's
Connolly
Bogle
Glatzel
Vassell
Traore

Send out on loan :

Brown
Coxe
Whyte

Agree with all of them,bar Glatzel. I believe he will come good,especially if paired with Tomlin.

Get rid of :

Day
Richard's
Connolly
Bogle
Glatzel
Vassell
Traore

Send out on loan :

Brown
Coxe
Whyte

Agree with all of them,bar Glatzel. I believe he will come good,especially if paired with Tomlin.

Fair enough , I just have not seen anything in Glatzel to show he is even anywhere near capable of playing at this level let alone be our main striker. He is 4th choice at the moment behind 3 pretty average players. That says it all

To say Glatzel is 4th choice is incorrect, he's been injured and not risked. Glatzel is a footballer and has a first touch that is far in front of the others other than Ward. To have four forwards isn't extravagent but more prudent, personally I feel that we may see two of the four wingers moved on and also Day, the two wingers may shock as he's stated that he's playing players to see if they can play his style. Wouldnt be surprised to see NML and Murphy moved out.

To say Glatzel is 4th choice is incorrect, he's been injured and not risked. Glatzel is a footballer and has a first touch that is far in front of the others other than Ward. To have four forwards isn't extravagent but more prudent, personally I feel that we may see two of the four wingers moved on and also Day, the two wingers may shock as he's stated that he's playing players to see if they can play his style. Wouldnt be surprised to see NML and Murphy moved out.

I'd love to know where this first touch has been. Hes a donkey and nowhere near championship level.
You must be a bit naive if you think hes been injured all this time, he was struggling and he was taken out of the firing line.

Ward , Bogle and Madine have all been chosen before him since he has been "FIT" again, according to my maths that makes him 4th choice.

Get rid of :

Day (no)
Richard's (no, unless we buy another RB)
Connolly (Defo yes)
Bogle (yes)
Glatzel (no)
Vassell (maybe send on loan)
Traore (yes)

Send out on loan :

Brown (no, keep him)
Coxe (no, keep him)
Whyte (you’re deluded)

Get rid of :

Day
Richard's
Connolly
Bogle
Glatzel
Vassell
Traore

Send out on loan :

Brown
Coxe
Whyte

Agree with all of them,bar Glatzel. I believe he will come good,especially if paired with Tomlin.

Fair enough , I just have not seen anything in Glatzel to show he is even anywhere near capable of playing at this level let alone be our main striker. He is 4th choice at the moment behind 3 pretty average players. That says it all

Glaztel is clearly not 4th choice, and not seen anything of him ? Played his first game under Harris and scored maybe he actually plays well when he isn’t isolated up front on his own like under warnock

To say Glatzel is 4th choice is incorrect, he's been injured and not risked. Glatzel is a footballer and has a first touch that is far in front of the others other than Ward. To have four forwards isn't extravagent but more prudent, personally I feel that we may see two of the four wingers moved on and also Day, the two wingers may shock as he's stated that he's playing players to see if they can play his style. Wouldnt be surprised to see NML and Murphy moved out.

I'd love to know where this first touch has been. Hes a donkey and nowhere near championship level.
You must be a bit naive if you think hes been injured all this time, he was struggling and he was taken out of the firing line.

Ward , Bogle and Madine have all been chosen before him since he has been "FIT" again, according to my maths that makes him 4th choice.

He went off injured! Under Warnock he just watched the ball drop out of the sky, he's come from a league where they keep the ball on the deck, I suppose we will have to wait and see but he's 10 times the footballer Bogle is. How many players have we signed and expected them to play a style they are unaccustomed too, you don't buy a Ferrari to tow a caravan.

Offload

Jazz Richard's ( replace with a young rb )
Connelly
Bogle
Murphy
Patterson
Vaulks

To say Glatzel is 4th choice is incorrect, he's been injured and not risked. Glatzel is a footballer and has a first touch that is far in front of the others other than Ward. To have four forwards isn't extravagent but more prudent, personally I feel that we may see two of the four wingers moved on and also Day, the two wingers may shock as he's stated that he's playing players to see if they can play his style. Wouldnt be surprised to see NML and Murphy moved out.

I'd love to know where this first touch has been. Hes a donkey and nowhere near championship level.
You must be a bit naive if you think hes been injured all this time, he was struggling and he was taken out of the firing line.

Ward , Bogle and Madine have all been chosen before him since he has been "FIT" again, according to my maths that makes him 4th choice.

He went off injured! Under Warnock he just watched the ball drop out of the sky, he's come from a league where they keep the ball on the deck, I suppose we will have to wait and see but he's 10 times the footballer Bogle is. How many players have we signed and expected them to play a style they are unaccustomed too, you don't buy a Ferrari to tow a caravan.

Excellent analysis.

Get rid of :

Day
Richard's
Connolly
Bogle
Glatzel
Vassell
Traore

Send out on loan :

Brown
Coxe
Whyte

Agree with all of them,bar Glatzel. I believe he will come good,especially if paired with Tomlin.

Fair enough , I just have not seen anything in Glatzel to show he is even anywhere near capable of playing at this level let alone be our main striker. He is 4th choice at the moment behind 3 pretty average players. That says it all

Glaztel is clearly not 4th choice, and not seen anything of him ? Played his first game under Harris and scored maybe he actually plays well when he isn’t isolated up front on his own like under warnock

He cant head the ball
He cant shoot
He cant hold it up
And he cant pass
Four basic must haves for a striker
He works hard I'll give him that but he is a poor quality striker at this level
He missed chance after chance for Warnock before he went into hiding.

I dont watch city through rose tinted glasses , if Glatzel played for another team I'd be happy with his name on the team sheet against us as he is no threat. Even his goal on the weekend was a debatable miss kick.

Sometimes it’s much more difficult moving players on than it seems.
The favourite saying on here - “just get rid” - is laughable at times.

Very true! It just depends if we get any reasonable bids for any of our players or anyone wants to have them on loan or even take them on a free! The only ones who we can definitely release are Brian Murphy and Traore as their contracts are up?

Get rid of :

Day
Richard's
Connolly
Bogle
Glatzel
Vassell
Traore

Send out on loan :

Brown
Coxe
Whyte

Agree with all of them,bar Glatzel. I believe he will come good,especially if paired with Tomlin.

Fair enough , I just have not seen anything in Glatzel to show he is even anywhere near capable of playing at this level let alone be our main striker. He is 4th choice at the moment behind 3 pretty average players. That says it all

Glaztel is clearly not 4th choice, and not seen anything of him ? Played his first game under Harris and scored maybe he actually plays well when he isn’t isolated up front on his own like under warnock

He cant head the ball
He cant shoot
He cant hold it up
And he cant pass
Four basic must haves for a striker
He works hard I'll give him that but he is a poor quality striker at this level
He missed chance after chance for Warnock before he went into hiding.

I dont watch city through rose tinted glasses , if Glatzel played for another team I'd be happy with his name on the team sheet against us as he is no threat. Even his goal on the weekend was a debatable miss kick.

I don’t agree with any of your assessment of Glatzel, personally, except he doesn’t seem great in the air.
I think he’s very decent and an all round good footballer.

How you can say he’s currently fourth choice is also off the mark. Harris has shown that he’s going through virtually all the players to look at them before deciding. Glatzel has been out injured but has recently got his chance to show what he can do.

Only time will tell wether he makes it here at City and can play the way Harris wants to build his team.

To say Glatzel is 4th choice is incorrect, he's been injured and not risked. Glatzel is a footballer and has a first touch that is far in front of the others other than Ward. To have four forwards isn't extravagent but more prudent, personally I feel that we may see two of the four wingers moved on and also Day, the two wingers may shock as he's stated that he's playing players to see if they can play his style. Wouldnt be surprised to see NML and Murphy moved out.

I'd love to know where this first touch has been. Hes a donkey and nowhere near championship level.
You must be a bit naive if you think hes been injured all this time, he was struggling and he was taken out of the firing line.

Ward , Bogle and Madine have all been chosen before him since he has been "FIT" again, according to my maths that makes him 4th choice.

He went off injured! Under Warnock he just watched the ball drop out of the sky, he's come from a league where they keep the ball on the deck, I suppose we will have to wait and see but he's 10 times the footballer Bogle is. How many players have we signed and expected them to play a style they are unaccustomed too, you don't buy a Ferrari to tow a caravan.

but a Ferrari most definitely would be able to pull a caravan.

Get rid of :

Day
Richard's
Connolly
Bogle
Glatzel
Vassell
Traore

Send out on loan :

Brown
Coxe
Whyte

Agree with all of them,bar Glatzel. I believe he will come good,especially if paired with Tomlin.

Fair enough , I just have not seen anything in Glatzel to show he is even anywhere near capable of playing at this level let alone be our main striker. He is 4th choice at the moment behind 3 pretty average players. That says it all

Glaztel is clearly not 4th choice, and not seen anything of him ? Played his first game under Harris and scored maybe he actually plays well when he isn’t isolated up front on his own like under warnock

He cant head the ball
He cant shoot
He cant hold it up
And he cant pass
Four basic must haves for a striker
He works hard I'll give him that but he is a poor quality striker at this level
He missed chance after chance for Warnock before he went into hiding.

I dont watch city through rose tinted glasses , if Glatzel played for another team I'd be happy with his name on the team sheet against us as he is no threat. Even his goal on the weekend was a debatable miss kick.

I don’t agree with any of your assessment of Glatzel, personally, except he doesn’t seem great in the air.
I think he’s very decent and an all round good footballer.

How you can say he’s currently fourth choice is also off the mark. Harris has shown that he’s going through virtually all the players to look at them before deciding. Glatzel has been out injured but has recently got his chance to show what he can do.

Only time will tell wether he makes it here at City and can play the way Harris wants to build his team.

I wish I had your confidence in him.. ive seen very little from him so far so far but fortunately for him he has scored 3.
but not sure who we could sell him to even if we wanted...

Providing we can sell them (I.E if any clubs want to buy them)

I can see any of Brian Murphy, Josh Murphy, Bogle, Smithies, Paterson, Day, Traore leaving us

Obviously players like Traore has his contract expire this month, and Brain Murphy won’t be Expensive to buy out his contract, but I’m just saying everyone who’s here at the moment that won’t surprise me that they’ll leave in Janurary.

We are not going to get rid of Smithies and Day, that would leave us with one keeper. I'd imagine Smithies will be going though and Day will be our second keeper. Or if a decent offer comes in Etheridge will be sold.
I agree, I think Josh Murphy and Bogle will be gone. I still don't know how Patterson fits into this team so he could be a surprise departure. If Harris can get cover for our fullbacks, Brown and Coxe might be loaned out. I think the only reason why they weren't at the start of the season is because we dont have cover for Peltier and Bennet.

What is Connolly's situation? He was on the verge of going out on loan last year until we had a few injuries. He could/should be looking to leave if he isnt injured.

Connolly is a bit of a mystery...doesn't seem to have a squad number. but as for looking to leave.. I would imagine his next contract is not going to be to a top end championship club...with just 4 apps in 2 and a half years he be lucky to get a quarter of what he is on here ? so where is the millage in him leaving . same with Jazz ,I really don't see a queue forming to pay him what he gets here even on a free transfer. i think its going to be difficult to move the lesser used players on..

Get rid of :

Day
Richard's
Connolly
Bogle
Glatzel
Vassell
Traore

Send out on loan :

Brown
Coxe
Whyte

Agree with all of them,bar Glatzel. I believe he will come good,especially if paired with Tomlin.

Fair enough , I just have not seen anything in Glatzel to show he is even anywhere near capable of playing at this level let alone be our main striker. He is 4th choice at the moment behind 3 pretty average players. That says it all

Glaztel is clearly not 4th choice, and not seen anything of him ? Played his first game under Harris and scored maybe he actually plays well when he isn’t isolated up front on his own like under warnock

He cant head the ball
He cant shoot
He cant hold it up
And he cant pass
Four basic must haves for a striker
He works hard I'll give him that but he is a poor quality striker at this level
He missed chance after chance for Warnock before he went into hiding.

I dont watch city through rose tinted glasses , if Glatzel played for another team I'd be happy with his name on the team sheet against us as he is no threat. Even his goal on the weekend was a debatable miss kick.

Even in our promotion season our strikers struggled for goals. Warnocks system means our strikers were always totally isolated. I wouldn't judge his ability based on his performances under Warnock because the majority of the team were pretty poor to be honest. He is not that good in the air but from what I have seen he is pretty good with the ball at his feet and he links up well with the other players when he actually has support. If he had connected cleanly with that shot the chances are it would have hit the keeper given how close he was, but he scuffed it under him instead, luckily. Regardless of the finish he still anticipated the flick from Tomlin and made the run- not sure our other strikers would have. He has missed a few sitters but at least he gets into the right positions. I think him an Tomlin could play well together given a run of games- hopefully anyway.

i think day might stay as our back up keeper, he'll be paid a second choice keepers wage, whereas smithies will be on a first choice wage, if we can sell, i think smithies will be gone, i think if not, they'll loan him out. the others have to be, jazz, connolly, bogle (dont think hes impressed anyone) vassell (really annoying transfer from NW that one) Traore, i think is one of them, because NH has said he wants to strengthen the LB position. Madine, i think he will go, i think we have a better player than him in Glatzel and think he might be loaned out if we cant sell him. that said though, we could see even more go, because i think the club will listen to offers for all our current team at the moment,

i think day might stay as our back up keeper, he'll be paid a second choice keepers wage, whereas smithies will be on a first choice wage, if we can sell, i think smithies will be gone, i think if not, they'll loan him out. the others have to be, jazz, connolly, bogle (dont think hes impressed anyone) vassell (really annoying transfer from NW that one) Traore, i think is one of them, because NH has said he wants to strengthen the LB position. Madine, i think he will go, i think we have a better player than him in Glatzel and think he might be loaned out if we cant sell him. that said though, we could see even more go, because i think the club will listen to offers for all our current team at the moment,

Vassell is injured..

i think day might stay as our back up keeper, he'll be paid a second choice keepers wage, whereas smithies will be on a first choice wage, if we can sell, i think smithies will be gone, i think if not, they'll loan him out. the others have to be, jazz, connolly, bogle (dont think hes impressed anyone) vassell (really annoying transfer from NW that one) Traore, i think is one of them, because NH has said he wants to strengthen the LB position. Madine, i think he will go, i think we have a better player than him in Glatzel and think he might be loaned out if we cant sell him. that said though, we could see even more go, because i think the club will listen to offers for all our current team at the moment,

Vassell is injured..

i dont mean i was annoyed because we bought him and didnt play him, i was annoyed because when warnock signed him, he said, i always liked Vassell when he was at Truro, and i tried to sign him for rotherham, because i thought he could help keep us up.

that, to me said he didnt think we'd be chasing promotion.

Get rid of :

Day
Richard's
Connolly
Bogle
Glatzel
Vassell
Traore

Send out on loan :

Brown
Coxe
Whyte

Agree with all of them,bar Glatzel. I believe he will come good,especially if paired with Tomlin.

Fair enough , I just have not seen anything in Glatzel to show he is even anywhere near capable of playing at this level let alone be our main striker. He is 4th choice at the moment behind 3 pretty average players. That says it all

Glaztel is clearly not 4th choice, and not seen anything of him ? Played his first game under Harris and scored maybe he actually plays well when he isn’t isolated up front on his own like under warnock

He cant head the ball
He cant shoot
He cant hold it up
And he cant pass
Four basic must haves for a striker
He works hard I'll give him that but he is a poor quality striker at this level
He missed chance after chance for Warnock before he went into hiding.

I dont watch city through rose tinted glasses , if Glatzel played for another team I'd be happy with his name on the team sheet against us as he is no threat. Even his goal on the weekend was a debatable miss kick.

Even in our promotion season our strikers struggled for goals. Warnocks system means our strikers were always totally isolated. I wouldn't judge his ability based on his performances under Warnock because the majority of the team were pretty poor to be honest. He is not that good in the air but from what I have seen he is pretty good with the ball at his feet and he links up well with the other players when he actually has support. If he had connected cleanly with that shot the chances are it would have hit the keeper given how close he was, but he scuffed it under him instead, luckily. Regardless of the finish he still anticipated the flick from Tomlin and made the run- not sure our other strikers would have. He has missed a few sitters but at least he gets into the right positions. I think him an Tomlin could play well together given a run of games- hopefully anyway.

Pretty much agree.

He’s also come from a different country, different style of playing completely. To go from that to playing the Warnock way must have been a bit of a shock to say the least. He must have wondered what the f**k was going on!

I’ve seen top end, top class players take a season to adjust before playing to their full potential.

Get rid of :

Day
Richard's
Connolly
Bogle
Glatzel
Vassell
Traore

Send out on loan :

Brown
Coxe
Whyte

Agree with all of them,bar Glatzel. I believe he will come good,especially if paired with Tomlin.

Fair enough , I just have not seen anything in Glatzel to show he is even anywhere near capable of playing at this level let alone be our main striker. He is 4th choice at the moment behind 3 pretty average players. That says it all

Glaztel is clearly not 4th choice, and not seen anything of him ? Played his first game under Harris and scored maybe he actually plays well when he isn’t isolated up front on his own like under warnock

He cant head the ball
He cant shoot
He cant hold it up
And he cant pass
Four basic must haves for a striker
He works hard I'll give him that but he is a poor quality striker at this level
He missed chance after chance for Warnock before he went into hiding.

I dont watch city through rose tinted glasses , if Glatzel played for another team I'd be happy with his name on the team sheet against us as he is no threat. Even his goal on the weekend was a debatable miss kick.

Even in our promotion season our strikers struggled for goals. Warnocks system means our strikers were always totally isolated. I wouldn't judge his ability based on his performances under Warnock because the majority of the team were pretty poor to be honest. He is not that good in the air but from what I have seen he is pretty good with the ball at his feet and he links up well with the other players when he actually has support. If he had connected cleanly with that shot the chances are it would have hit the keeper given how close he was, but he scuffed it under him instead, luckily. Regardless of the finish he still anticipated the flick from Tomlin and made the run- not sure our other strikers would have. He has missed a few sitters but at least he gets into the right positions. I think him an Tomlin could play well together given a run of games- hopefully anyway.

Pretty much agree.

He’s also come from a different country, different style of playing completely. To go from that to playing the Warnock way must have been a bit of a shock to say the least. He must have wondered what the f**k was going on!

I’ve seen top end, top class players take a season to adjust before playing to their full potential.

You cant blame not being able to kick a football on not settling.
The chances he has missed were shocking at times. That's not adjusting that is not being capable. Madine and Ward would have both scored most of the chances he missed.
I still dont see anything in him to suggest he was worth the fee paid and in honesty it wouldnt suprise me if he was shipped back to Germany either January or the summer

Get rid of :

Day
Richard's
Connolly
Bogle
Glatzel
Vassell
Traore

Send out on loan :

Brown
Coxe
Whyte

Agree with all of them,bar Glatzel. I believe he will come good,especially if paired with Tomlin.

Fair enough , I just have not seen anything in Glatzel to show he is even anywhere near capable of playing at this level let alone be our main striker. He is 4th choice at the moment behind 3 pretty average players. That says it all

Glaztel is clearly not 4th choice, and not seen anything of him ? Played his first game under Harris and scored maybe he actually plays well when he isn’t isolated up front on his own like under warnock

He cant head the ball
He cant shoot
He cant hold it up
And he cant pass
Four basic must haves for a striker
He works hard I'll give him that but he is a poor quality striker at this level
He missed chance after chance for Warnock before he went into hiding.

I dont watch city through rose tinted glasses , if Glatzel played for another team I'd be happy with his name on the team sheet against us as he is no threat. Even his goal on the weekend was a debatable miss kick.

Even in our promotion season our strikers struggled for goals. Warnocks system means our strikers were always totally isolated. I wouldn't judge his ability based on his performances under Warnock because the majority of the team were pretty poor to be honest. He is not that good in the air but from what I have seen he is pretty good with the ball at his feet and he links up well with the other players when he actually has support. If he had connected cleanly with that shot the chances are it would have hit the keeper given how close he was, but he scuffed it under him instead, luckily. Regardless of the finish he still anticipated the flick from Tomlin and made the run- not sure our other strikers would have. He has missed a few sitters but at least he gets into the right positions. I think him an Tomlin could play well together given a run of games- hopefully anyway.

Pretty much agree.

He’s also come from a different country, different style of playing completely. To go from that to playing the Warnock way must have been a bit of a shock to say the least. He must have wondered what the f**k was going on!

I’ve seen top end, top class players take a season to adjust before playing to their full potential.

You cant blame not being able to kick a football on not settling.
The chances he has missed were shocking at times. That's not adjusting that is not being capable. Madine and Ward would have both scored most of the chances he missed.
I still dont see anything in him to suggest he was worth the fee paid and in honesty it wouldnt suprise me if he was shipped back to Germany either January or the summer

It’s a good job you’re not the manager
Oh yes, remind me just how many goals Madine has scored for us.
Glatzel will come good and he won’t be shipped anywhere. Mark my words