ELECTION DAY " CONSERVATIVE WIN THE ELECTION “.

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Friday 13th December 2019

Election results 2019: Boris Johnson returns to power with big majority
13 December 2019 Election 2019




Boris Johnson will return to Downing Street with a big majority after the Conservatives swept aside Labour in its traditional heartlands.

With just a handful of seats left to declare in the general election, the BBC forecasts a a Tory majority of 78.

The prime minister said it would give him a mandate to "get Brexit done" and take the UK out of the EU next month.

Jeremy Corbyn said Labour had a "very disappointing night" and he would not fight a future election.







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Polls close at 10pm on Thursday, 12th December.

The Conservative Party are looking to win an overall majority.

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Boris not everyone's latte
Corbyn, utter disaster
The rest, not worth discussing.

Worst lot, Plaid. My next door neighbour is an elderly lady whose first language is Welsh. I did think it odd but over the last couple of months since I've been back, it's quite common amongst the older folk (70+ years) which did surprise me.
Only political party lot that have bothered with us village folk are the lib dems, liberal party or whatever they call themselves these days. Get them on daily basis, no labour, no Tory's, no other lot, whoever they may be, not even a shite leaflet through door!!
Just an observation as driving around what should be a labour heartland there appears to be no support for labour and their socialism. The candidate for example, didn't have any idea who he was until it was, quite forcible pointed out to me that he is a c**t!! That's from what would be termed traditional labour voters!

At the end of day, we'll end up with another load of unemployable fuckwits.

I think the conservatives will win this pretty easily but I cant remember ever having such a poor choice of people.

It is impossible to vote for labour with Corbyn and Abbott in charge, especially with the imaginary money tree they have found
I think they may be all but wiped out after this election and Corbyn will be replaced

Lib dems are traitors to this country and should be banned from running an election campaign on a pledge which totally ignores a democratic vote of the people.

The conservatives are the conservatives and will keep things pretty much the same as it is now, which at the moment may not be a bad thing as we need some stability. The problem is the other parties will do everything they can to block every move Boris tries to make.

The Brexit party have the best policies but cannot win the election .

Whoever wins the only one that are going to suffer are the general public, the choices on the table are the worst i have ever seen and the way i see it is it doesn't matter who's going to win because we're going to get fucked either way.
Corbryn is completely deluded and Boris is a corrupt compulsive liar.

Corbyn / Abbott and the rest of the Labour front bench - no thanks, their ideas on socialism dont work - and having lived through the years when they tried it - I dont want anyone trying it again.

Lib Dems - well if you want to remain and go against the biggets single democratic mandate this country has ever given - then they are the ones for you. There is nothing democratic about them.

Conservatives - Boris bloody johnson - ffs - like a 6th former at the local debating club. Too much of being a historic buffoon. Slightly better than the above 2 options - but only just.

Plaid Cymru - f**k knows what they are on about. Free and independent from the UK.... only to then be under the control of the EU.

No one else left other than the Greens and the Monster Raving Loony party. None of the above then. Makes no difference then - as Brennan will get in either way. That's Kevin Brennan - the expense fiddling local incumbent of this parish. So wont be voting this time around unless there is a none of the above option.

Anyone who votes Labour has to be living in the past.
1. Labour is not for the working class
2.they will I crease benefits making it attractive to stay out of work for some
3. They are removing the 2 child benefit and increasing the benefit for every child you have, for as many as you have, regardless whether you can afford it... making it attractive to have 11 kids and stay out of work.
4. They have no respect for the armed forces and live in a world that does not exist.. no one knows where the next Hitler will come from and a deterrent is just that, it deters other nations from taking over other nations and has worked for over 70 years
5. Their maths do not add up, free internet, taking back utility companies and rail service. Free education when you leave school and so on, where is this money coming from
6. Open door immigration.. yes immigration is a good thing in controlled numbers, on mass is never a good thing. We would need more schools, hospitals, better roads and so on to cope, plus how many people can live on this island before we are unable to cope? 85 million?
7. All politicians are lying twats but sometimes, it is better the Devil you know

Down this way only see conservative bill boards and they are on farmers land! Obviously need their permission to do this so are farmers
conservative voters despite brexit? Seen two labour poster on side of rd probably because farmers wont allow it on their land and the funny thing is it talks of conservative nhs cuts when our hospital services here are being cut constantly by "LABOUR" also One plaid post ... glad leaving country Thursday..
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Tory majority.Then they cant blame anyone else if it all goes tits up

Down this way only see conservative bill boards and they are on farmers land! Obviously need their permission to do this so are farmers
conservative voters despite brexit? Seen two labour poster on side of rd probably because farmers wont allow it on their land and the funny thing is it talks of conservative nhs cuts when our hospital services here are being cut constantly by "LABOUR" also One plaid post ... glad leaving country Thursday..
poster

Or they just paid more to have them put up

A vote for Labour is to support a Marxist economic, social and international set of policies which can only possibly result in economic damage, and social and international collapse endangering the nation. Such catastrophic policies would cause an unprecedented brain drain and remove so much wealth from the country which would be counterintuitive.

It would likely result in banks closing, the City collapsing and disproportionately taxing the invaluable wealth creators also would be counterintuitive.

Without a strong economy a country flounders; simple as that.

Brexit needs to be done to enable businesses to get on with assurance and confidence and avoid continual uncertainties and fiscal difficulties.

The Marxist team of Corbyn/McDonnell would totally ruin the economy; their Utopian ideals are plainly dangerous let alone phantasmagorical. They would extort 10% of the shares of listed companies, which coupled with his blanket ownership of industry would result in economic nationalism and grand larceny of peoples pensions and their shares.

Every Labour Government has ruined the economy; the last one left a note to the incoming Tories that there was no money left.

This aside from having no policy on Brexit and calling a pointless and expensive referendum on the EU, threatening the Union, disarming our security, engaging with terrorist sympathisers and anti Semites, permitting children and certain non UK citizens the vote, widening the door left open by Brown to immigration without control, and damaging the nations relationship with important allies such as the US.

Democracy is all important. A hung Parliament cannot deliver any decisions; it would result in more arguing and stagnation of the economy and harm the fabric and welfare of the nation. How could that be good for one and all?

Down this way only see conservative bill boards and they are on farmers land! Obviously need their permission to do this so are farmers
conservative voters despite brexit? Seen two labour poster on side of rd probably because farmers wont allow it on their land and the funny thing is it talks of conservative nhs cuts when our hospital services here are being cut constantly by "LABOUR" also One plaid post ... glad leaving country Thursday..
poster

Or they just paid more to have them put up

So their political views dont matter just done it for the money? Spoken like a true labourite.

Loonie lefties beware! labour won’t do you any good!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MjUWX6S8iYU

Anyone who votes Labour has to be living in the past.
1. Labour is not for the working class Why ? Plans to reverse the public sector pay gap after 9 years of Tories paying for their rich busddies by limiting Public Sector pay to 1%, increasing the living wage much quicker than weven the Tories current plans, what more do you want ?
2.they will I crease benefits making it attractive to stay out of work for some Possibly but at least they'll make siure those that need benefits get them, unlike the Tories whohave poverty and homelessness at an all time high in modern times. I'd rather pay more tax than live in this current situation where people are really suffering.
3. They are removing the 2 child benefit and increasing the benefit for every child you have, for as many as you have, regardless whether you can afford it... making it attractive to have 11 kids and stay out of work. The usual Daily Mail line. Yes there will be a tiny minority that may think like that but the proportion of large families is much lowe r now anmd the actual impact on spending is minimal compared to high level tax dodgers who can get away with it now due to the cuts in HMRC
4. They have no respect for the armed forces and live in a world that does not exist.. no one knows where the next Hitler will come from and a deterrent is just that, it deters other nations from taking over other nations and has worked for over 70 years I think they respect them but just don't believe they are a priority. Do you really see a future war where the number of ground troops will be of any consequence ? I don't.
5. Their maths do not add up, free internet, taking back utility companies and rail service. Free education when you leave school and so on, where is this money coming from They have openly said they they will be borrowing huge amounts, so too are the Tories. The last 9 years we have fallen behind many other countries and it's now a matter of playing catch up and that has to be front loaded. Are you really telling me that the rail service is better now than when it was nationalised. The best rail services across the world are nationalised, that will also benefit the working class as they won't have to put up with not only late/cancelled trains but also constant, above inflation fare increases
6. Open door immigration.. yes immigration is a good thing in controlled numbers, on mass is never a good thing. We would need more schools, hospitals, better roads and so on to cope, plus how many people can live on this island before we are unable to cope? 85 million?In general I agree that we need to limiy immigration. But we also have to base it on the roles we need not on how much people will earn as proposed by the Tories. We will always need nurses, fruit pickers, etc., in big numbers but none of those will pass the £30K test that the Tories propose
7. All politicians are lying twats but sometimes, it is better the Devil you know

I agree with the first comment not the second because I already know that after 9 years of Tory rule I am significantly wqorse off than I was prior to them, and not just monetary wise

Living in the past !!??

I'm living in the present and can't see for the life of me what the Tories are going to do for the working man.

Loonie lefties beware! labour won’t do you any good!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MjUWX6S8iYU

Brilliant!

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Anyone who votes Labour has to be living in the past.
1. Labour is not for the working class Why ? Plans to reverse the public sector pay gap after 9 years of Tories paying for their rich busddies by limiting Public Sector pay to 1%, increasing the living wage much quicker than weven the Tories current plans, what more do you want ?
2.they will I crease benefits making it attractive to stay out of work for some Possibly but at least they'll make siure those that need benefits get them, unlike the Tories whohave poverty and homelessness at an all time high in modern times. I'd rather pay more tax than live in this current situation where people are really suffering.
3. They are removing the 2 child benefit and increasing the benefit for every child you have, for as many as you have, regardless whether you can afford it... making it attractive to have 11 kids and stay out of work. The usual Daily Mail line. Yes there will be a tiny minority that may think like that but the proportion of large families is much lowe r now anmd the actual impact on spending is minimal compared to high level tax dodgers who can get away with it now due to the cuts in HMRC
4. They have no respect for the armed forces and live in a world that does not exist.. no one knows where the next Hitler will come from and a deterrent is just that, it deters other nations from taking over other nations and has worked for over 70 years I think they respect them but just don't believe they are a priority. Do you really see a future war where the number of ground troops will be of any consequence ? I don't.
5. Their maths do not add up, free internet, taking back utility companies and rail service. Free education when you leave school and so on, where is this money coming from They have openly said they they will be borrowing huge amounts, so too are the Tories. The last 9 years we have fallen behind many other countries and it's now a matter of playing catch up and that has to be front loaded. Are you really telling me that the rail service is better now than when it was nationalised. The best rail services across the world are nationalised, that will also benefit the working class as they won't have to put up with not only late/cancelled trains but also constant, above inflation fare increases
6. Open door immigration.. yes immigration is a good thing in controlled numbers, on mass is never a good thing. We would need more schools, hospitals, better roads and so on to cope, plus how many people can live on this island before we are unable to cope? 85 million?In general I agree that we need to limiy immigration. But we also have to base it on the roles we need not on how much people will earn as proposed by the Tories. We will always need nurses, fruit pickers, etc., in big numbers but none of those will pass the £30K test that the Tories propose
7. All politicians are lying twats but sometimes, it is better the Devil you know

I agree with the first comment not the second because I already know that after 9 years of Tory rule I am significantly wqorse off than I was prior to them, and not just monetary wise

Living in the past !!??

I'm living in the present and can't see for the life of me what the Tories are going to do for the working man.

Let's all hope we haven't got to go through A&E anytime soon.
Worse still our wife's partners parents kids etc don't die on a trolley in some cupboard or corridor

Down this way only see conservative bill boards and they are on farmers land! Obviously need their permission to do this so are farmers
conservative voters despite brexit? Seen two labour poster on side of rd probably because farmers wont allow it on their land and the funny thing is it talks of conservative nhs cuts when our hospital services here are being cut constantly by "LABOUR" also One plaid post ... glad leaving country Thursday..
poster

Or they just paid more to have them put up

So their political views dont matter just done it for the money? Spoken like a true labourite.

Who said i was voting for labour? you're just talking out of your arse and making assumptions

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WILLLLY THE WOMBAT

you say plaid are the worse but don' t explain why? i vote plaid "independant" its no different to all other countries that make up Europe the same as ireland, i am sure there are as many english that don' t want to be part of scotland or wales and would prefer just to be england only.

Anyone who votes Labour has to be living in the past.
1. Labour is not for the working class Why ? Plans to reverse the public sector pay gap after 9 years of Tories paying for their rich busddies by limiting Public Sector pay to 1%, increasing the living wage much quicker than weven the Tories current plans, what more do you want ?
2.they will I crease benefits making it attractive to stay out of work for some Possibly but at least they'll make siure those that need benefits get them, unlike the Tories whohave poverty and homelessness at an all time high in modern times. I'd rather pay more tax than live in this current situation where people are really suffering.
3. They are removing the 2 child benefit and increasing the benefit for every child you have, for as many as you have, regardless whether you can afford it... making it attractive to have 11 kids and stay out of work. The usual Daily Mail line. Yes there will be a tiny minority that may think like that but the proportion of large families is much lowe r now anmd the actual impact on spending is minimal compared to high level tax dodgers who can get away with it now due to the cuts in HMRC
4. They have no respect for the armed forces and live in a world that does not exist.. no one knows where the next Hitler will come from and a deterrent is just that, it deters other nations from taking over other nations and has worked for over 70 years I think they respect them but just don't believe they are a priority. Do you really see a future war where the number of ground troops will be of any consequence ? I don't.
5. Their maths do not add up, free internet, taking back utility companies and rail service. Free education when you leave school and so on, where is this money coming from They have openly said they they will be borrowing huge amounts, so too are the Tories. The last 9 years we have fallen behind many other countries and it's now a matter of playing catch up and that has to be front loaded. Are you really telling me that the rail service is better now than when it was nationalised. The best rail services across the world are nationalised, that will also benefit the working class as they won't have to put up with not only late/cancelled trains but also constant, above inflation fare increases
6. Open door immigration.. yes immigration is a good thing in controlled numbers, on mass is never a good thing. We would need more schools, hospitals, better roads and so on to cope, plus how many people can live on this island before we are unable to cope? 85 million?In general I agree that we need to limiy immigration. But we also have to base it on the roles we need not on how much people will earn as proposed by the Tories. We will always need nurses, fruit pickers, etc., in big numbers but none of those will pass the £30K test that the Tories propose
7. All politicians are lying twats but sometimes, it is better the Devil you know

I agree with the first comment not the second because I already know that after 9 years of Tory rule I am significantly wqorse off than I was prior to them, and not just monetary wise

Living in the past !!??

I'm living in the present and can't see for the life of me what the Tories are going to do for the working man.

Labour are now the party of middle class pseudo socialists, who treat working class people with contempt. As you’ve just done by suggesting we’re all so stupid we not only read the Daily Mail but believe anything that’s in it.
What have the Public Sector achieved to merit a 5% pay increase, have they became more efficient or more productive. The proposed Labour changes to child benefit will only encourage people who can’t afford it to have more kids. As for poverty it was all but eliminated in the 1950s what we have now is leftist filth deciding what poverty is......and it’s not fekkin poverty. So Amazon Starbucks and Google don’t pay enough tax because HMRC are understaffed perhaps if the lazy pricks didn’t spend all their time chasing small businesses they’d have enough staff to go after the big boys. Which countries have we fallen behind? I grew up when Labour and the Unions were running the show believe me it wasn’t good, why, apart from stupid ideological reasons, do you want to go back to that?

WILLLLY THE WOMBAT

you say plaid are the worse but don' t explain why? i vote plaid "independant" its no different to all other countries that make up Europe the same as ireland, i am sure there are as many english that don' t want to be part of scotland or wales and would prefer just to be england only.

The only option worse than Corbyn

The independent Institute of Economic Affairs has decreed plans to renationalise would be a case of the poor subsidising the wealthy. It’s basic business that without competition there is an increase in poor service. McDonnell does not grasp macro economics. Corbyn told Neil that taxes would increase on ordinary families. He told Neil also that he’d prefer to go back to the 1940’s. Nationalisation was justified then as the country had to rebuild after the War. Corbyn is living in another world

The list of the staggering dangers and appalling catastrophe facing us if voters let in Corbyn is endless.

McDonnell has openly said his economic policies may we’ll risk a run on the pound.

Corbyn has promised the most militant Trades Union they’ll be in Government with him.

Corbyn has produced no evidence USA will buy our NHS. Don’t forget who was the first PM to introduce medical charges to the NHS - Attlee.

Corbyn has peddled fantasies as a 4 day week and coming up with £75 Billion for the WASPIS.

Corbyn hates NATO, he wants to scrap our nuclear deterrent, and he has odd views on Israel.

His party is packed with hypocrites standing in this election who in the past have accused him of being racist, a menace to the economy and a threat to national security. Yet these moderates are standing to save their jobs rather than spare the nation the dire dangers Corbyn poses.

What strikes me is the labour voters are so one eyed they don’t recognise the Tory manifesto as one that could so easily have been produced by Blair. Johnson should have unleashed a more profoundly capitalist and taxation manifesto but he’s appealing to the sensible just left of centre moderates in the electorate.

Anyone who votes Labour has to be living in the past.
1. Labour is not for the working class Why ? Plans to reverse the public sector pay gap after 9 years of Tories paying for their rich busddies by limiting Public Sector pay to 1%, increasing the living wage much quicker than weven the Tories current plans, what more do you want ?
2.they will I crease benefits making it attractive to stay out of work for some Possibly but at least they'll make siure those that need benefits get them, unlike the Tories whohave poverty and homelessness at an all time high in modern times. I'd rather pay more tax than live in this current situation where people are really suffering.
3. They are removing the 2 child benefit and increasing the benefit for every child you have, for as many as you have, regardless whether you can afford it... making it attractive to have 11 kids and stay out of work. The usual Daily Mail line. Yes there will be a tiny minority that may think like that but the proportion of large families is much lowe r now anmd the actual impact on spending is minimal compared to high level tax dodgers who can get away with it now due to the cuts in HMRC
4. They have no respect for the armed forces and live in a world that does not exist.. no one knows where the next Hitler will come from and a deterrent is just that, it deters other nations from taking over other nations and has worked for over 70 years I think they respect them but just don't believe they are a priority. Do you really see a future war where the number of ground troops will be of any consequence ? I don't.
5. Their maths do not add up, free internet, taking back utility companies and rail service. Free education when you leave school and so on, where is this money coming from They have openly said they they will be borrowing huge amounts, so too are the Tories. The last 9 years we have fallen behind many other countries and it's now a matter of playing catch up and that has to be front loaded. Are you really telling me that the rail service is better now than when it was nationalised. The best rail services across the world are nationalised, that will also benefit the working class as they won't have to put up with not only late/cancelled trains but also constant, above inflation fare increases
6. Open door immigration.. yes immigration is a good thing in controlled numbers, on mass is never a good thing. We would need more schools, hospitals, better roads and so on to cope, plus how many people can live on this island before we are unable to cope? 85 million?In general I agree that we need to limiy immigration. But we also have to base it on the roles we need not on how much people will earn as proposed by the Tories. We will always need nurses, fruit pickers, etc., in big numbers but none of those will pass the £30K test that the Tories propose
7. All politicians are lying twats but sometimes, it is better the Devil you know

I agree with the first comment not the second because I already know that after 9 years of Tory rule I am significantly wqorse off than I was prior to them, and not just monetary wise

Living in the past !!??

I'm living in the present and can't see for the life of me what the Tories are going to do for the working man.

Labour are now the party of middle class pseudo socialists, who treat working class people with contempt. As you’ve just done by suggesting we’re all so stupid we not only read the Daily Mail but believe anything that’s in it.
What have the Public Sector achieved to merit a 5% pay increase, have they became more efficient or more productive. In 2010 there were 481,000 civil servants servicing a population of 62.76m, in 2019 there are 447,000 servicing a population of 67.53m (I'm not arguing that reduction is wrong) but in private sector that Increase in pro rata productivity would get you more than a 1% pay rise year on year, it would be at least the rate of inflation if not significantly more The proposed Labour changes to child benefit will only encourage people who can’t afford it to have more kids. As for poverty it was all but eliminated in the 1950s what we have now is leftist filth deciding what poverty is......and it’s not fekkin povertyHmmm so increased homelessness, child poverty (admitted by Tories as fact) and proliferation of Food Bank isn't poverty . So Amazon Starbucks and Google don’t pay enough tax because HMRC are understaffed perhaps if the lazy pricks didn’t spend all their time chasing small businesses they’d have enough staff to go after the big boys. Which countries have we fallen behind?Even the most biased surely recognise if you reduce the number of people available to chase tax dodgers tax income will decrease !! It's pure madness to think otherwise. You're probably right that they have, instead, gone after the small business because t's an easier place to attack, you need massive resources to prove the case against corporations. I grew up when Labour and the Unions were running the show believe me it wasn’t good, why, apart from stupid ideological reasons, do you want to go back to that? Sounds like we grew up in a similar era but that era is well gone as it was brought into the new world under the Labour government in the 90s. So if you're asking me would I rather go back to the type of policies of the 90s over what we have now or under the next Tory government then the answer is a resounding "Yes", if only so that we can have a more equal society that at least makes some effort (not enough in my eyes though) to support those who aren't so fortunate. I think there was a quote that over 85% of UK is just 2 pay packets away from poverty, that's pretty scary for anyone out of the top 15% !!

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Anyone else noticed how Labour have kept Abbott away from the public eye

Anyone else noticed how Labour have kept Abbott away from the public eye

A where is Rees-Mogg, maybe they've run away together

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Anyone else noticed how Labour have kept Abbott away from the public eye

A where is Rees-Mogg, maybe they've run away together

I anticipated someone retorting with that

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How about a party who wants to stand up for democracy and honour the Referendum result, to create trade deals with who they want to deal with, not to be answerable to Brussels, a responsibly run dynamic economy, to protect the Union, a proper defence policy, a responsible immigration system, a properly budgeted run NHS and Police...

Is that enough for you?

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How about a party who wants to stand up for democracy and honour the Referendum result, to create trade deals with who they want to deal with, not to be answerable to Brussels, a responsibly run dynamic economy, to protect the Union, a proper defence policy, a responsible immigration system, a properly budgeted run NHS and Police...

Is that enough for you?

Well elections results are based on popularity whether its policies or personality they both count and as Corbyn is neither popular
nor are labour's policies its easy to see why labour are unlikely to win.