Josh Murphy

The 11 million pound question what to do with Josh Murphy.

The guy is just not interested at one stage today when he came on he stood on the halfway line legs folded whilst Barnsley broke away. As a City fan all we ask for from our players is to show commitment desire and to give 100% maybe he’s worried about breaking into a sweat.

I can't see him fitting into a 442 though

Maybe he was told to stay upfield to exploit the space. I think we are just to used to our Wingers playing almost like wingback every week under Warnock.

For me, he starts.

Poor when he came on. Lacks work rate and being strong when the ball comes to him. If we get a good bid , we should let him go.

He did fine whilst on...

Looked hungry and thought he played well? Would like to see him start next game

I don't know how true it is, but I heard a few weeks ago that he's been very homesick.

One player I would love to leave in January and bring someone hungry in
Yes he has all the talent In the world but always looks uninterested
Big wages gone and money for a hungry new Cardiff signing as even though we have had 10 from 12 points think we need some new blood ex specially upfront

Make a cheeky inquiry about a Murphy and a few million for Jarrod Bowen

could`nt beat his meat. sell him

I don't know how true it is, but I heard a few weeks ago that he's been very homesick.

How old is he?

For all the brilliant things Warnock did for Cardiff the players he brought in for big money were by far his worst signings.

Wasted millions on Reid and Murphy last season surely their must have been better cheaper options out their than those two? Not to mention the further millions he spent on a back up keeper and left back.

when he plays well he is unstoppable but it doesn't happen enough. He has not got the best attitude towards kids after autographs either so don't know what to make of him

when he plays well he is unstoppable but it doesn't happen enough. He has not got the best attitude towards kids after autographs either so don't know what to make of him

Someone above says he is supposed to be homesick,then try and mix with the very fans who want his autograph,people ,including myself cursed tomlin for his lack of professional attitude (not being fit mainly)but he has shown a much better attitude since returning lighter,and somewhat fitter than he was,not at 100% yet,but getting there imo,Murphy should knuckle down,change his mindset if he is homesick,and try and EARN a move closer to home,no good sulking,as no teams will show interest, and he's stuck here til, contract runs out,doing himself and the team no good.I'd like to think most people earning what he does,would get on with it,regardless of being homesick

For all the brilliant things Warnock did for Cardiff the players he brought in for big money were by far his worst signings.

Wasted millions on Reid and Murphy last season surely their must have been better cheaper options out their than those two? Not to mention the further millions he spent on a back up keeper and left back.

I don't think we spent premier league money. let alone big money. Reid we made a profit and still might with Murphy.

how cheap did you want us to go exactly.?

For all the brilliant things Warnock did for Cardiff the players he brought in for big money were by far his worst signings.

Wasted millions on Reid and Murphy last season surely their must have been better cheaper options out their than those two? Not to mention the further millions he spent on a back up keeper and left back.

I don't think we spent premier league money. let alone big money. Reid we made a profit and still might with Murphy.

how cheap did you want us to go exactly.?

How on Earth are we going to make a profit with Murphy? 11 million for a player who has one good game in about every 10 he plays. The deal with Fulham for Reid is a blinder for us.

My point was that for the money we spent we should have been able to get better players than we did. Warnock best business was getting people on frees or low transfers. Whenever he was given big money to spend he wasted on underwhelming players. His biggest signings were Murphy, Reid, Madine, Smithies and Cunningham and not one of them can be classed as big success. Compare that to the frees he got or the low transfer players plus the loans in prem. like I said Warnock did plenty of great things here but he was awful at signing players for big money.

I'd sell, hes unstoppable when hes good, but it so little and often its not worth keeping him.

He was playing right in front of me when he come on, hardly did anything. He only had to play a 1-2 or knock the ball past the FB and he would easily have him beat.

For all the brilliant things Warnock did for Cardiff the players he brought in for big money were by far his worst signings.

Wasted millions on Reid and Murphy last season surely their must have been better cheaper options out their than those two? Not to mention the further millions he spent on a back up keeper and left back.

I don't think we spent premier league money. let alone big money. Reid we made a profit and still might with Murphy.

how cheap did you want us to go exactly.?

How on Earth are we going to make a profit with Murphy? 11 million for a player who has one good game in about every 10 he plays. The deal with Fulham for Reid is a blinder for us.

My point was that for the money we spent we should have been able to get better players than we did. Warnock best business was getting people on frees or low transfers. Whenever he was given big money to spend he wasted on underwhelming players. His biggest signings were Murphy, Reid, Madine, Smithies and Cunningham and not one of them can be classed as big success. Compare that to the frees he got or the low transfer players plus the loans in prem. like I said Warnock did plenty of great things here but he was awful at signing players for big money.

none of those 5 would be regarded as a big signing by any other premier league club though... our SQUAD not just team needed improving. unfancied , punched above our weight ,the whole is more than the sum of its parts were all used during promotion lots of times. so up we go ,without a war chest to transform an over achieving championship squad into a decent premier side.. so we strengthened the squad.. it was the premier league for Christ sakes , and smithies and Cunningham were not exactly top notch but were decent back up. had we really needed them maybe views might be different but I don't see how you can think a premier league squad should be full of free transfers as back up.. and awful these players are not..
cunnigham and smithies are proven at championship level
reid ..profit
madine arrived when we had won 1 in 6...we did not lose in the 11 games that followed and he played a part in most..but he didn't score boo hoo.
murphy time will tell.. but certainly played a lot last season..

Cunningham should be in our starting 11 no doubt

For all the brilliant things Warnock did for Cardiff the players he brought in for big money were by far his worst signings.

Wasted millions on Reid and Murphy last season surely their must have been better cheaper options out their than those two? Not to mention the further millions he spent on a back up keeper and left back.

I don't think we spent premier league money. let alone big money. Reid we made a profit and still might with Murphy.

how cheap did you want us to go exactly.?

How on Earth are we going to make a profit with Murphy? 11 million for a player who has one good game in about every 10 he plays. The deal with Fulham for Reid is a blinder for us.

My point was that for the money we spent we should have been able to get better players than we did. Warnock best business was getting people on frees or low transfers. Whenever he was given big money to spend he wasted on underwhelming players. His biggest signings were Murphy, Reid, Madine, Smithies and Cunningham and not one of them can be classed as big success. Compare that to the frees he got or the low transfer players plus the loans in prem. like I said Warnock did plenty of great things here but he was awful at signing players for big money.

none of those 5 would be regarded as a big signing by any other premier league club though... our SQUAD not just team needed improving. unfancied , punched above our weight ,the whole is more than the sum of its parts were all used during promotion lots of times. so up we go ,without a war chest to transform an over achieving championship squad into a decent premier side.. so we strengthened the squad.. it was the premier league for Christ sakes , and smithies and Cunningham were not exactly top notch but were decent back up. had we really needed them maybe views might be different but I don't see how you can think a premier league squad should be full of free transfers as back up.. and awful these players are not..
cunnigham and smithies are proven at championship level
reid ..profit
madine arrived when we had won 1 in 6...we did not lose in the 11 games that followed and he played a part in most..but he didn't score boo hoo.
murphy time will tell.. but certainly played a lot last season..

Their were equally good/better keepers available on free transfers that wouldn’t not have cost us anything.

Cunningham was an okay signing but it didn’t solve our problem of needing a RB that season which was not addressed

Reid as I already have said we have played blinder by getting that deal from Fulham

Madine at the price he cost was an awful signing equally good player were available for far less

Murphy at 11 million is an awful signing their is zero debate to be had about that. A player who only turns up 1 game in 10.


Like I have already said Warnock was fantastic for our club but he really was bad at signing players when he was given large sums of money to do so. Now let’s compare it to the loans, frees and small fee players he brought in who on the whole have been magnificent signings.

For all the brilliant things Warnock did for Cardiff the players he brought in for big money were by far his worst signings.

Wasted millions on Reid and Murphy last season surely their must have been better cheaper options out their than those two? Not to mention the further millions he spent on a back up keeper and left back.

I don't think we spent premier league money. let alone big money. Reid we made a profit and still might with Murphy.

how cheap did you want us to go exactly.?

How on Earth are we going to make a profit with Murphy? 11 million for a player who has one good game in about every 10 he plays. The deal with Fulham for Reid is a blinder for us.

My point was that for the money we spent we should have been able to get better players than we did. Warnock best business was getting people on frees or low transfers. Whenever he was given big money to spend he wasted on underwhelming players. His biggest signings were Murphy, Reid, Madine, Smithies and Cunningham and not one of them can be classed as big success. Compare that to the frees he got or the low transfer players plus the loans in prem. like I said Warnock did plenty of great things here but he was awful at signing players for big money.

none of those 5 would be regarded as a big signing by any other premier league club though... our SQUAD not just team needed improving. unfancied , punched above our weight ,the whole is more than the sum of its parts were all used during promotion lots of times. so up we go ,without a war chest to transform an over achieving championship squad into a decent premier side.. so we strengthened the squad.. it was the premier league for Christ sakes , and smithies and Cunningham were not exactly top notch but were decent back up. had we really needed them maybe views might be different but I don't see how you can think a premier league squad should be full of free transfers as back up.. and awful these players are not..
cunnigham and smithies are proven at championship level
reid ..profit
madine arrived when we had won 1 in 6...we did not lose in the 11 games that followed and he played a part in most..but he didn't score boo hoo.
murphy time will tell.. but certainly played a lot last season..

Their were equally good/better keepers available on free transfers that wouldn’t not have cost us anything.

Cunningham was an okay signing but it didn’t solve our problem of needing a RB that season which was not addressed

Reid as I already have said we have played blinder by getting that deal from Fulham

Madine at the price he cost was an awful signing equally good player were available for far less

Murphy at 11 million is an awful signing their is zero debate to be had about that. A player who only turns up 1 game in 10.


Like I have already said Warnock was fantastic for our club but he really was bad at signing players when he was given large sums of money to do so. Now let’s compare it to the loans, frees and small fee players he brought in who on the whole have been magnificent signings.

An there you have the sole reason he fails in the premier league.

Some managers just can’t spend money.

For all the brilliant things Warnock did for Cardiff the players he brought in for big money were by far his worst signings.

Wasted millions on Reid and Murphy last season surely their must have been better cheaper options out their than those two? Not to mention the further millions he spent on a back up keeper and left back.

I don't think we spent premier league money. let alone big money. Reid we made a profit and still might with Murphy.

how cheap did you want us to go exactly.?

How on Earth are we going to make a profit with Murphy? 11 million for a player who has one good game in about every 10 he plays. The deal with Fulham for Reid is a blinder for us.

My point was that for the money we spent we should have been able to get better players than we did. Warnock best business was getting people on frees or low transfers. Whenever he was given big money to spend he wasted on underwhelming players. His biggest signings were Murphy, Reid, Madine, Smithies and Cunningham and not one of them can be classed as big success. Compare that to the frees he got or the low transfer players plus the loans in prem. like I said Warnock did plenty of great things here but he was awful at signing players for big money.

none of those 5 would be regarded as a big signing by any other premier league club though... our SQUAD not just team needed improving. unfancied , punched above our weight ,the whole is more than the sum of its parts were all used during promotion lots of times. so up we go ,without a war chest to transform an over achieving championship squad into a decent premier side.. so we strengthened the squad.. it was the premier league for Christ sakes , and smithies and Cunningham were not exactly top notch but were decent back up. had we really needed them maybe views might be different but I don't see how you can think a premier league squad should be full of free transfers as back up.. and awful these players are not..
cunnigham and smithies are proven at championship level
reid ..profit
madine arrived when we had won 1 in 6...we did not lose in the 11 games that followed and he played a part in most..but he didn't score boo hoo.
murphy time will tell.. but certainly played a lot last season..

Their were equally good/better keepers available on free transfers that wouldn’t not have cost us anything.

Cunningham was an okay signing but it didn’t solve our problem of needing a RB that season which was not addressed

Reid as I already have said we have played blinder by getting that deal from Fulham

Madine at the price he cost was an awful signing equally good player were available for far less

Murphy at 11 million is an awful signing their is zero debate to be had about that. A player who only turns up 1 game in 10.


Like I have already said Warnock was fantastic for our club but he really was bad at signing players when he was given large sums of money to do so. Now let’s compare it to the loans, frees and small fee players he brought in who on the whole have been magnificent signings.

An there you have the sole reason he fails in the premier league.

Some managers just can’t spend money.

and some don't get even close to having adequate money to spend.
Sheffield Utd spent 20 mill on Ollie Mcburnie. think about it.

the spending money thing is so small time. we had 20 odd players who won promotion and not one offer from a prem club for any of them . we spend a whole season there go down and still no offers.

For all the brilliant things Warnock did for Cardiff the players he brought in for big money were by far his worst signings.

Wasted millions on Reid and Murphy last season surely their must have been better cheaper options out their than those two? Not to mention the further millions he spent on a back up keeper and left back.

I don't think we spent premier league money. let alone big money. Reid we made a profit and still might with Murphy.

how cheap did you want us to go exactly.?

How on Earth are we going to make a profit with Murphy? 11 million for a player who has one good game in about every 10 he plays. The deal with Fulham for Reid is a blinder for us.

My point was that for the money we spent we should have been able to get better players than we did. Warnock best business was getting people on frees or low transfers. Whenever he was given big money to spend he wasted on underwhelming players. His biggest signings were Murphy, Reid, Madine, Smithies and Cunningham and not one of them can be classed as big success. Compare that to the frees he got or the low transfer players plus the loans in prem. like I said Warnock did plenty of great things here but he was awful at signing players for big money.

none of those 5 would be regarded as a big signing by any other premier league club though... our SQUAD not just team needed improving. unfancied , punched above our weight ,the whole is more than the sum of its parts were all used during promotion lots of times. so up we go ,without a war chest to transform an over achieving championship squad into a decent premier side.. so we strengthened the squad.. it was the premier league for Christ sakes , and smithies and Cunningham were not exactly top notch but were decent back up. had we really needed them maybe views might be different but I don't see how you can think a premier league squad should be full of free transfers as back up.. and awful these players are not..
cunnigham and smithies are proven at championship level
reid ..profit
madine arrived when we had won 1 in 6...we did not lose in the 11 games that followed and he played a part in most..but he didn't score boo hoo.
murphy time will tell.. but certainly played a lot last season..

Their were equally good/better keepers available on free transfers that wouldn’t not have cost us anything.

Cunningham was an okay signing but it didn’t solve our problem of needing a RB that season which was not addressed

Reid as I already have said we have played blinder by getting that deal from Fulham

Madine at the price he cost was an awful signing equally good player were available for far less

Murphy at 11 million is an awful signing their is zero debate to be had about that. A player who only turns up 1 game in 10.


Like I have already said Warnock was fantastic for our club but he really was bad at signing players when he was given large sums of money to do so. Now let’s compare it to the loans, frees and small fee players he brought in who on the whole have been magnificent signings.

An there you have the sole reason he fails in the premier league.

Some managers just can’t spend money.

and some don't get even close to having adequate money to spend.
Sheffield Utd spent 20 mill on Ollie Mcburnie. think about it.

the spending money thing is so small time. we had 20 odd players who won promotion and not one offer from a prem club for any of them . we spend a whole season there go down and still no offers.

Hmm that’s funny then given we sold players this summer

For all the brilliant things Warnock did for Cardiff the players he brought in for big money were by far his worst signings.

Wasted millions on Reid and Murphy last season surely their must have been better cheaper options out their than those two? Not to mention the further millions he spent on a back up keeper and left back.

I don't think we spent premier league money. let alone big money. Reid we made a profit and still might with Murphy.

how cheap did you want us to go exactly.?

How on Earth are we going to make a profit with Murphy? 11 million for a player who has one good game in about every 10 he plays. The deal with Fulham for Reid is a blinder for us.

My point was that for the money we spent we should have been able to get better players than we did. Warnock best business was getting people on frees or low transfers. Whenever he was given big money to spend he wasted on underwhelming players. His biggest signings were Murphy, Reid, Madine, Smithies and Cunningham and not one of them can be classed as big success. Compare that to the frees he got or the low transfer players plus the loans in prem. like I said Warnock did plenty of great things here but he was awful at signing players for big money.

none of those 5 would be regarded as a big signing by any other premier league club though... our SQUAD not just team needed improving. unfancied , punched above our weight ,the whole is more than the sum of its parts were all used during promotion lots of times. so up we go ,without a war chest to transform an over achieving championship squad into a decent premier side.. so we strengthened the squad.. it was the premier league for Christ sakes , and smithies and Cunningham were not exactly top notch but were decent back up. had we really needed them maybe views might be different but I don't see how you can think a premier league squad should be full of free transfers as back up.. and awful these players are not..
cunnigham and smithies are proven at championship level
reid ..profit
madine arrived when we had won 1 in 6...we did not lose in the 11 games that followed and he played a part in most..but he didn't score boo hoo.
murphy time will tell.. but certainly played a lot last season..

You really need to take those Warnock tinted specs off. His signings where he spent money have been poor- at best. £6mill for madine wasn’t played regularly - loaned out. Cunningham £4mill - not played loaned out, £3mill on a overweight Tomlin not played because he wasn’t fit enough (no shit) - loaned out, Smithies £4mill (?) not played and was on the verge of being loaned out if etheridge didn’t get injured, £10mill for Reid - said team would be built around him- played 1 game loaned/sold, £3mill for vaulks - not used. £11mill for Murphy - not a regular starter.

Not all signings are guaranteed to be successful and the squad did need strengthening but he spent a lot of money on players who have contributed very little to the first team. Not surprising that the board were unhappy with him given what he spent and how we short in certain positions.

For all the brilliant things Warnock did for Cardiff the players he brought in for big money were by far his worst signings.

Wasted millions on Reid and Murphy last season surely their must have been better cheaper options out their than those two? Not to mention the further millions he spent on a back up keeper and left back.

I don't think we spent premier league money. let alone big money. Reid we made a profit and still might with Murphy.

how cheap did you want us to go exactly.?

How on Earth are we going to make a profit with Murphy? 11 million for a player who has one good game in about every 10 he plays. The deal with Fulham for Reid is a blinder for us.

My point was that for the money we spent we should have been able to get better players than we did. Warnock best business was getting people on frees or low transfers. Whenever he was given big money to spend he wasted on underwhelming players. His biggest signings were Murphy, Reid, Madine, Smithies and Cunningham and not one of them can be classed as big success. Compare that to the frees he got or the low transfer players plus the loans in prem. like I said Warnock did plenty of great things here but he was awful at signing players for big money.

none of those 5 would be regarded as a big signing by any other premier league club though... our SQUAD not just team needed improving. unfancied , punched above our weight ,the whole is more than the sum of its parts were all used during promotion lots of times. so up we go ,without a war chest to transform an over achieving championship squad into a decent premier side.. so we strengthened the squad.. it was the premier league for Christ sakes , and smithies and Cunningham were not exactly top notch but were decent back up. had we really needed them maybe views might be different but I don't see how you can think a premier league squad should be full of free transfers as back up.. and awful these players are not..
cunnigham and smithies are proven at championship level
reid ..profit
madine arrived when we had won 1 in 6...we did not lose in the 11 games that followed and he played a part in most..but he didn't score boo hoo.
murphy time will tell.. but certainly played a lot last season..

Their were equally good/better keepers available on free transfers that wouldn’t not have cost us anything.

Cunningham was an okay signing but it didn’t solve our problem of needing a RB that season which was not addressed

Reid as I already have said we have played blinder by getting that deal from Fulham

Madine at the price he cost was an awful signing equally good player were available for far less

Murphy at 11 million is an awful signing their is zero debate to be had about that. A player who only turns up 1 game in 10.


Like I have already said Warnock was fantastic for our club but he really was bad at signing players when he was given large sums of money to do so. Now let’s compare it to the loans, frees and small fee players he brought in who on the whole have been magnificent signings.

An there you have the sole reason he fails in the premier league.

Some managers just can’t spend money.

and some don't get even close to having adequate money to spend.
Sheffield Utd spent 20 mill on Ollie Mcburnie. think about it.

the spending money thing is so small time. we had 20 odd players who won promotion and not one offer from a prem club for any of them . we spend a whole season there go down and still no offers.

Hmm that’s funny then given we sold players this summer

not really funny..im not sure who we sold to a premier leaguie club.. maybe I passed out for a few weeks..
or maybe your wrong..

For all the brilliant things Warnock did for Cardiff the players he brought in for big money were by far his worst signings.

Wasted millions on Reid and Murphy last season surely their must have been better cheaper options out their than those two? Not to mention the further millions he spent on a back up keeper and left back.

I don't think we spent premier league money. let alone big money. Reid we made a profit and still might with Murphy.

how cheap did you want us to go exactly.?

How on Earth are we going to make a profit with Murphy? 11 million for a player who has one good game in about every 10 he plays. The deal with Fulham for Reid is a blinder for us.

My point was that for the money we spent we should have been able to get better players than we did. Warnock best business was getting people on frees or low transfers. Whenever he was given big money to spend he wasted on underwhelming players. His biggest signings were Murphy, Reid, Madine, Smithies and Cunningham and not one of them can be classed as big success. Compare that to the frees he got or the low transfer players plus the loans in prem. like I said Warnock did plenty of great things here but he was awful at signing players for big money.

none of those 5 would be regarded as a big signing by any other premier league club though... our SQUAD not just team needed improving. unfancied , punched above our weight ,the whole is more than the sum of its parts were all used during promotion lots of times. so up we go ,without a war chest to transform an over achieving championship squad into a decent premier side.. so we strengthened the squad.. it was the premier league for Christ sakes , and smithies and Cunningham were not exactly top notch but were decent back up. had we really needed them maybe views might be different but I don't see how you can think a premier league squad should be full of free transfers as back up.. and awful these players are not..
cunnigham and smithies are proven at championship level
reid ..profit
madine arrived when we had won 1 in 6...we did not lose in the 11 games that followed and he played a part in most..but he didn't score boo hoo.
murphy time will tell.. but certainly played a lot last season..

You really need to take those Warnock tinted specs off. His signings where he spent money have been poor- at best. £6mill for madine wasn’t played regularly - loaned out. Cunningham £4mill - not played loaned out, £3mill on a overweight Tomlin not played because he wasn’t fit enough (no shit) - loaned out, Smithies £4mill (?) not played and was on the verge of being loaned out if etheridge didn’t get injured, £10mill for Reid - said team would be built around him- played 1 game loaned/sold, £3mill for vaulks - not used. £11mill for Murphy - not a regular starter.

Not all signings are guaranteed to be successful and the squad did need strengthening but he spent a lot of money on players who have contributed very little to the first team. Not surprising that the board were unhappy with him given what he spent and how we short in certain positions.

yep...anything that's not in your agenda must be tinted...
if you don't get it, well you don't get it...but I will try .. Madine was not brought here as a first choice target man..much like Eddie Howe didn't pay us to loan KJ for their run in. our current manager is already talking about cover..{ not up front,but cover never the less } ..it was to push us over the line and take pressure of Ken...we don't go up its 2mill for a championship forward who really aint bad..if we do go up its 160 mill TV cash and we fork out 4mill more...you seriously don't have to be a branston pickle let alone Richard branson to know that's good business. we offered less, tried to loan , moved on to other targets but when deadline day is approaching what do you do ? Warnock went for it .{ no doubt with the board knowing exactly why he wanted Madine and being in agreement, I know I would be and am quite frankly shocked that so many wouldn't have } Smithies...you seriously think we shouldn't have decent back up or poor bck up in the prem ? Reid..what exactly do you do when an agent rings you with THAT discussion 2 weeks before the season..Reids body language doubled down on it at Wigan.. we made money but plans were scrapped it happens, and its happened to better managers at bigger clubs. you can dig your heels in but look what happened early season at Spurs , having players here that are desperate to not be here just can not be good for anyone....Vaulks played Saturday, played well and will probably play tomorrow..you can only pick 11 mate. and whoever doesn't get picked you get people shouting waste of money...you NEED a squad. you NEED cover.. at the moment its Whyte and Murphy are a waste..it was Nelson. no doubt the pendulum will swing again and others will be wastes again...but if you want a good team no matter if its Warnock, harris or someone else if the players down the pecking order are poor when you get injuries your team will be poor...is that really what people want ?

now take your hate glasses off and try looking at it from more than one view...cost money not a superstar = waste..really doesn't work mate

For all the brilliant things Warnock did for Cardiff the players he brought in for big money were by far his worst signings.

Wasted millions on Reid and Murphy last season surely their must have been better cheaper options out their than those two? Not to mention the further millions he spent on a back up keeper and left back.

I don't think we spent premier league money. let alone big money. Reid we made a profit and still might with Murphy.

how cheap did you want us to go exactly.?

How on Earth are we going to make a profit with Murphy? 11 million for a player who has one good game in about every 10 he plays. The deal with Fulham for Reid is a blinder for us.

My point was that for the money we spent we should have been able to get better players than we did. Warnock best business was getting people on frees or low transfers. Whenever he was given big money to spend he wasted on underwhelming players. His biggest signings were Murphy, Reid, Madine, Smithies and Cunningham and not one of them can be classed as big success. Compare that to the frees he got or the low transfer players plus the loans in prem. like I said Warnock did plenty of great things here but he was awful at signing players for big money.

none of those 5 would be regarded as a big signing by any other premier league club though... our SQUAD not just team needed improving. unfancied , punched above our weight ,the whole is more than the sum of its parts were all used during promotion lots of times. so up we go ,without a war chest to transform an over achieving championship squad into a decent premier side.. so we strengthened the squad.. it was the premier league for Christ sakes , and smithies and Cunningham were not exactly top notch but were decent back up. had we really needed them maybe views might be different but I don't see how you can think a premier league squad should be full of free transfers as back up.. and awful these players are not..
cunnigham and smithies are proven at championship level
reid ..profit
madine arrived when we had won 1 in 6...we did not lose in the 11 games that followed and he played a part in most..but he didn't score boo hoo.
murphy time will tell.. but certainly played a lot last season..

You really need to take those Warnock tinted specs off. His signings where he spent money have been poor- at best. £6mill for madine wasn’t played regularly - loaned out. Cunningham £4mill - not played loaned out, £3mill on a overweight Tomlin not played because he wasn’t fit enough (no shit) - loaned out, Smithies £4mill (?) not played and was on the verge of being loaned out if etheridge didn’t get injured, £10mill for Reid - said team would be built around him- played 1 game loaned/sold, £3mill for vaulks - not used. £11mill for Murphy - not a regular starter.

Not all signings are guaranteed to be successful and the squad did need strengthening but he spent a lot of money on players who have contributed very little to the first team. Not surprising that the board were unhappy with him given what he spent and how we short in certain positions.

yep...anything that's not in your agenda must be tinted...
if you don't get it, well you don't get it...but I will try .. Madine was not brought here as a first choice target man..much like Eddie Howe didn't pay us to loan KJ for their run in. our current manager is already talking about cover..{ not up front,but cover never the less } ..it was to push us over the line and take pressure of Ken...we don't go up its 2mill for a championship forward who really aint bad..if we do go up its 160 mill TV cash and we fork out 4mill more...you seriously don't have to be a branston pickle let alone Richard branson to know that's good business. we offered less, tried to loan , moved on to other targets but when deadline day is approaching what do you do ? Warnock went for it .{ no doubt with the board knowing exactly why he wanted Madine and being in agreement, I know I would be and am quite frankly shocked that so many wouldn't have } Smithies...you seriously think we shouldn't have decent back up or poor bck up in the prem ? Reid..what exactly do you do when an agent rings you with THAT discussion 2 weeks before the season..Reids body language doubled down on it at Wigan.. we made money but plans were scrapped it happens, and its happened to better managers at bigger clubs. you can dig your heels in but look what happened early season at Spurs , having players here that are desperate to not be here just can not be good for anyone....Vaulks played Saturday, played well and will probably play tomorrow..you can only pick 11 mate. and whoever doesn't get picked you get people shouting waste of money...you NEED a squad. you NEED cover.. at the moment its Whyte and Murphy are a waste..it was Nelson. no doubt the pendulum will swing again and others will be wastes again...but if you want a good team no matter if its Warnock, harris or someone else if the players down the pecking order are poor when you get injuries your team will be poor...is that really what people want ?

now take your hate glasses off and try looking at it from more than one view...cost money not a superstar = waste..really doesn't work mate

I don’t have an agenda and I don’t hate warnock. He worked miracles at this club and will always be remembered for what he did. Doesn’t change the fact though that performances/football were shit this season and that his money signings have contributed very little to the first team. His success at this club doesn’t change that and I’ll say it as I see it.
I don’t think you get the point I was making. Warnock spent a considerable amount of money on players that didn’t play. I understand that a squad needs to be strong but how is buying players and loaning them out improving the squad or good business? Yea vaulks played Saturday, under Harris and not Warnock. Another player not given a chance despite an underperforming midfield. With the amount of money he spent on those players mentioned we should have seen them play much more than they have done.

For all the brilliant things Warnock did for Cardiff the players he brought in for big money were by far his worst signings.

Wasted millions on Reid and Murphy last season surely their must have been better cheaper options out their than those two? Not to mention the further millions he spent on a back up keeper and left back.

I don't think we spent premier league money. let alone big money. Reid we made a profit and still might with Murphy.

how cheap did you want us to go exactly.?

How on Earth are we going to make a profit with Murphy? 11 million for a player who has one good game in about every 10 he plays. The deal with Fulham for Reid is a blinder for us.

My point was that for the money we spent we should have been able to get better players than we did. Warnock best business was getting people on frees or low transfers. Whenever he was given big money to spend he wasted on underwhelming players. His biggest signings were Murphy, Reid, Madine, Smithies and Cunningham and not one of them can be classed as big success. Compare that to the frees he got or the low transfer players plus the loans in prem. like I said Warnock did plenty of great things here but he was awful at signing players for big money.

none of those 5 would be regarded as a big signing by any other premier league club though... our SQUAD not just team needed improving. unfancied , punched above our weight ,the whole is more than the sum of its parts were all used during promotion lots of times. so up we go ,without a war chest to transform an over achieving championship squad into a decent premier side.. so we strengthened the squad.. it was the premier league for Christ sakes , and smithies and Cunningham were not exactly top notch but were decent back up. had we really needed them maybe views might be different but I don't see how you can think a premier league squad should be full of free transfers as back up.. and awful these players are not..
cunnigham and smithies are proven at championship level
reid ..profit
madine arrived when we had won 1 in 6...we did not lose in the 11 games that followed and he played a part in most..but he didn't score boo hoo.
murphy time will tell.. but certainly played a lot last season..

You really need to take those Warnock tinted specs off. His signings where he spent money have been poor- at best. £6mill for madine wasn’t played regularly - loaned out. Cunningham £4mill - not played loaned out, £3mill on a overweight Tomlin not played because he wasn’t fit enough (no shit) - loaned out, Smithies £4mill (?) not played and was on the verge of being loaned out if etheridge didn’t get injured, £10mill for Reid - said team would be built around him- played 1 game loaned/sold, £3mill for vaulks - not used. £11mill for Murphy - not a regular starter.

Not all signings are guaranteed to be successful and the squad did need strengthening but he spent a lot of money on players who have contributed very little to the first team. Not surprising that the board were unhappy with him given what he spent and how we short in certain positions.

yep...anything that's not in your agenda must be tinted...
if you don't get it, well you don't get it...but I will try .. Madine was not brought here as a first choice target man..much like Eddie Howe didn't pay us to loan KJ for their run in. our current manager is already talking about cover..{ not up front,but cover never the less } ..it was to push us over the line and take pressure of Ken...we don't go up its 2mill for a championship forward who really aint bad..if we do go up its 160 mill TV cash and we fork out 4mill more...you seriously don't have to be a branston pickle let alone Richard branson to know that's good business. we offered less, tried to loan , moved on to other targets but when deadline day is approaching what do you do ? Warnock went for it .{ no doubt with the board knowing exactly why he wanted Madine and being in agreement, I know I would be and am quite frankly shocked that so many wouldn't have } Smithies...you seriously think we shouldn't have decent back up or poor bck up in the prem ? Reid..what exactly do you do when an agent rings you with THAT discussion 2 weeks before the season..Reids body language doubled down on it at Wigan.. we made money but plans were scrapped it happens, and its happened to better managers at bigger clubs. you can dig your heels in but look what happened early season at Spurs , having players here that are desperate to not be here just can not be good for anyone....Vaulks played Saturday, played well and will probably play tomorrow..you can only pick 11 mate. and whoever doesn't get picked you get people shouting waste of money...you NEED a squad. you NEED cover.. at the moment its Whyte and Murphy are a waste..it was Nelson. no doubt the pendulum will swing again and others will be wastes again...but if you want a good team no matter if its Warnock, harris or someone else if the players down the pecking order are poor when you get injuries your team will be poor...is that really what people want ?

now take your hate glasses off and try looking at it from more than one view...cost money not a superstar = waste..really doesn't work mate

I don’t have an agenda and I don’t hate warnock. He worked miracles at this club and will always be remembered for what he did. Doesn’t change the fact though that performances/football were shit this season and that his money signings have contributed very little to the first team. His success at this club doesn’t change that and I’ll say it as I see it.
I don’t think you get the point I was making. Warnock spent a considerable amount of money on players that didn’t play. I understand that a squad needs to be strong but how is buying players and loaning them out improving the squad or good business? Yea vaulks played Saturday, under Harris and not Warnock. Another player not given a chance despite an underperforming midfield. With the amount of money he spent on those players mentioned we should have seen them play much more than they have done.

come on mate. you seem to be arguing the poster not the issues. and its on every single issue..being fair is not tinted its just being fair... yes I loved NW but was also probably the first or one of to accept haris on here while others had minor meltdowns... and will no doubt in a few months time be seeing harris point of view while people slag him off over rubbish..
Warnock bought a keeper and a full back who hardly played.. it was very small money for that league. very small ,as it turned out we didn't need that cover but what if we had ? one was loaned out and the other almost loaned out because both wanted 1st team football and we no longer needed that level of cover...
this year its Vaulks { talk about a no win situation } yes he was played by harris, because of injury as would have happened with the 2 earlier mentioned last season had there been injuries . re Vaulks its exactly where we would be if NW was still here { playing due to injuries } ..but had NW not bought this { apparent waste of money } player we wouldn't have the cover and he wouldn't be getting a chance here. the notion that every player should be given a chance is mad, sorry. its a professional football team not the local under 9s..managers pick what they view as their best team { vaulks was in neither managers best 11 but will now get a chance it seems } . please look around, all clubs sign squad players and relatively cheap take a punt/gamble players who then rarely play. its really not a case of giving chances they earn them through working hard in training , being patient and grasping any opportunity that comes their way..
as for our early season form. you just can not have a seemless transition losing 4 or 5 first team players.. and then lose who you see as a key player { Reid } and your keeper on the opening day .. some people expected miracles. the football itself was no different to our promotion year. it looked awful if we lost but ok when we won. and tbh is no better now. it might well get better but right now I don't think it is . results are better though and long may that last because personally I don't much care if we have 70% possession or pass it around in our half I just want us to win..

For all the brilliant things Warnock did for Cardiff the players he brought in for big money were by far his worst signings.

Wasted millions on Reid and Murphy last season surely their must have been better cheaper options out their than those two? Not to mention the further millions he spent on a back up keeper and left back.

I don't think we spent premier league money. let alone big money. Reid we made a profit and still might with Murphy.

how cheap did you want us to go exactly.?

How on Earth are we going to make a profit with Murphy? 11 million for a player who has one good game in about every 10 he plays. The deal with Fulham for Reid is a blinder for us.

My point was that for the money we spent we should have been able to get better players than we did. Warnock best business was getting people on frees or low transfers. Whenever he was given big money to spend he wasted on underwhelming players. His biggest signings were Murphy, Reid, Madine, Smithies and Cunningham and not one of them can be classed as big success. Compare that to the frees he got or the low transfer players plus the loans in prem. like I said Warnock did plenty of great things here but he was awful at signing players for big money.

none of those 5 would be regarded as a big signing by any other premier league club though... our SQUAD not just team needed improving. unfancied , punched above our weight ,the whole is more than the sum of its parts were all used during promotion lots of times. so up we go ,without a war chest to transform an over achieving championship squad into a decent premier side.. so we strengthened the squad.. it was the premier league for Christ sakes , and smithies and Cunningham were not exactly top notch but were decent back up. had we really needed them maybe views might be different but I don't see how you can think a premier league squad should be full of free transfers as back up.. and awful these players are not..
cunnigham and smithies are proven at championship level
reid ..profit
madine arrived when we had won 1 in 6...we did not lose in the 11 games that followed and he played a part in most..but he didn't score boo hoo.
murphy time will tell.. but certainly played a lot last season..

You really need to take those Warnock tinted specs off. His signings where he spent money have been poor- at best. £6mill for madine wasn’t played regularly - loaned out. Cunningham £4mill - not played loaned out, £3mill on a overweight Tomlin not played because he wasn’t fit enough (no shit) - loaned out, Smithies £4mill (?) not played and was on the verge of being loaned out if etheridge didn’t get injured, £10mill for Reid - said team would be built around him- played 1 game loaned/sold, £3mill for vaulks - not used. £11mill for Murphy - not a regular starter.

Not all signings are guaranteed to be successful and the squad did need strengthening but he spent a lot of money on players who have contributed very little to the first team. Not surprising that the board were unhappy with him given what he spent and how we short in certain positions.

Spot on, and I can tell you that one of the main reasons Warnock left ‘under mutual consent’ was his wasting of money in the transfer market coupled with the fact that he rarely played those players.

For all the brilliant things Warnock did for Cardiff the players he brought in for big money were by far his worst signings.

Wasted millions on Reid and Murphy last season surely their must have been better cheaper options out their than those two? Not to mention the further millions he spent on a back up keeper and left back.

I don't think we spent premier league money. let alone big money. Reid we made a profit and still might with Murphy.

how cheap did you want us to go exactly.?

How on Earth are we going to make a profit with Murphy? 11 million for a player who has one good game in about every 10 he plays. The deal with Fulham for Reid is a blinder for us.

My point was that for the money we spent we should have been able to get better players than we did. Warnock best business was getting people on frees or low transfers. Whenever he was given big money to spend he wasted on underwhelming players. His biggest signings were Murphy, Reid, Madine, Smithies and Cunningham and not one of them can be classed as big success. Compare that to the frees he got or the low transfer players plus the loans in prem. like I said Warnock did plenty of great things here but he was awful at signing players for big money.

none of those 5 would be regarded as a big signing by any other premier league club though... our SQUAD not just team needed improving. unfancied , punched above our weight ,the whole is more than the sum of its parts were all used during promotion lots of times. so up we go ,without a war chest to transform an over achieving championship squad into a decent premier side.. so we strengthened the squad.. it was the premier league for Christ sakes , and smithies and Cunningham were not exactly top notch but were decent back up. had we really needed them maybe views might be different but I don't see how you can think a premier league squad should be full of free transfers as back up.. and awful these players are not..
cunnigham and smithies are proven at championship level
reid ..profit
madine arrived when we had won 1 in 6...we did not lose in the 11 games that followed and he played a part in most..but he didn't score boo hoo.
murphy time will tell.. but certainly played a lot last season..

You really need to take those Warnock tinted specs off. His signings where he spent money have been poor- at best. £6mill for madine wasn’t played regularly - loaned out. Cunningham £4mill - not played loaned out, £3mill on a overweight Tomlin not played because he wasn’t fit enough (no shit) - loaned out, Smithies £4mill (?) not played and was on the verge of being loaned out if etheridge didn’t get injured, £10mill for Reid - said team would be built around him- played 1 game loaned/sold, £3mill for vaulks - not used. £11mill for Murphy - not a regular starter.

Not all signings are guaranteed to be successful and the squad did need strengthening but he spent a lot of money on players who have contributed very little to the first team. Not surprising that the board were unhappy with him given what he spent and how we short in certain positions.

Spot on, and I can tell you that one of the main reasons Warnock left ‘under mutual consent’ was his wasting of money in the transfer market coupled with the fact that he rarely played those players.

I really hope that's not true because it would mean those running our club know less now than when they started, ..besides, flint, pack and glatzel played all the time.. so its not even accurate { which I would expect those in charge to be } this has come from a pinch of salt person clearly.