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" WALES ARE GOING TO EURO 2020 / SURELY NOW GIGGS? "

Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:31 pm

WALES HAVE QUALIFIED FOR EURO 2020 :thumbright:


Surely now Ryan Giggs deserves credit? He's changed things from when we weren't doing well and proved a lot of people wrong about him.

I didn't want him to get the job, but fair play he's delivered :thumbright:




It will be just our third major tournament after 1958 and 2016.

There is no one country hosting it, as the tournament will be held across Europe.



The draw for the group stage is on Saturday, November 30th :thumbright:

Re: " WALES ARE GOING TO EURO 2020 / SURELY NOW GIGGS? "

Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:40 pm

Can’t argue with that

Re: " WALES ARE GOING TO EURO 2020 / SURELY NOW GIGGS? "

Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:42 pm

I always said he was the right man for the job from the start

Re: " WALES ARE GOING TO EURO 2020 / SURELY NOW GIGGS? "

Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:42 pm

Massive credit to him. Didn’t look like it was going to happen at one point but proved a lot of people wrong. Myself included.

Re: " WALES ARE GOING TO EURO 2020 / SURELY NOW GIGGS? "

Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:43 pm

When will we know what group we are in?

Re: " WALES ARE GOING TO EURO 2020 / SURELY NOW GIGGS? "

Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:48 pm

Still don’t like the guy. Congrats to him and his team look forward to next year.

Here starts the rush for tickets!!!!

Re: " WALES ARE GOING TO EURO 2020 / SURELY NOW GIGGS? "

Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:49 pm

ffs wrote:When will we know what group we are in?

I think theres a clue in the draw will take place on the 30th november !!!

Re: " WALES ARE GOING TO EURO 2020 / SURELY NOW GIGGS? "

Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:49 pm

If Bellamy had done the job Giggs has done bringing the youth through and trying to play and qualify people would have been praising him to the hilt. For varying reasons people don't like Giggs so he has had a lot of stick and people want him to. Fail. I think he has done a brilliant job irespective if we had qualified.

A lot like Hughes, Coleman let the squad grow old and didn't look outside his preferred selection. Giggs has done the work and brought in so many new faces and in my opinion the squad looks great.

Re: " WALES ARE GOING TO EURO 2020 / SURELY NOW GIGGS? "

Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:58 pm

troobloo3339 wrote:
ffs wrote:When will we know what group we are in?

I think theres a clue in the draw will take place on the 30th november !!!


Ffantasteg

Re: " WALES ARE GOING TO EURO 2020 / SURELY NOW GIGGS? "

Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:58 pm

2blue2handle wrote:If Bellamy had done the job Giggs has done bringing the youth through and trying to play and qualify people would have been praising him to the hilt. For varying reasons people don't like Giggs so he has had a lot of stick and people want him to. Fail. I think he has done a brilliant job irespective if we had qualified.

A lot like Hughes, Coleman let the squad grow old and didn't look outside his preferred selection. Giggs has done the work and brought in so many new faces and in my opinion the squad looks great.


He has done a good job but hes also blessed with the best squad of players Wales has ever had and probably the easiest group we've ever had in all honesty.

Credit to him but any manager should have been able to get that squad out of the group and it would have been a huge failure if we didnt

Re: " WALES ARE GOING TO EURO 2020 / SURELY NOW GIGGS? "

Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:10 pm

thomasblue wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:If Bellamy had done the job Giggs has done bringing the youth through and trying to play and qualify people would have been praising him to the hilt. For varying reasons people don't like Giggs so he has had a lot of stick and people want him to. Fail. I think he has done a brilliant job irespective if we had qualified.

A lot like Hughes, Coleman let the squad grow old and didn't look outside his preferred selection. Giggs has done the work and brought in so many new faces and in my opinion the squad looks great.


He has done a good job but hes also blessed with the best squad of players Wales has ever had and probably the easiest group we've ever had in all honesty.

Credit to him but any manager should have been able to get that squad out of the group and it would have been a huge failure if we didnt

Don't agree with you Thomas.....whilst I hated the Giggs appointment, every new manager needs time. Giggs has proven he can change, because quite frankly it was going South.

He did that with Moore, and Moore has been superb. So whilst I was a doubter, the bottom line is we have qualified, very rare in our history.

I give Giggs credit for that and he deserves our support, even though I understand some of it will be through gritted teeth.

Well done Ryan.

Re: " WALES ARE GOING TO EURO 2020 / SURELY NOW GIGGS? "

Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:21 pm

Brilliant tonight. My first game at Ninian Park was a 0-0 draw against (the soon to be be world champions). Two weeks later we beat USSR (previously unbeaten in out WC qualifying group). Our scorers that night (I think) were Ivor Allchurch and Roy Vernon

I think tonight beats all that. Boys became men. No play off now but who do we want in a friendly in March, as we have a vacant date available?

Re: " WALES ARE GOING TO EURO 2020 / SURELY NOW GIGGS? "

Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:23 pm

Wales have qualified for Europe again which is absolutely brilliant. I know this should not bug me but I watched it on sky and Rob Earnshaw was A pundit. Could anyone get his accent it sounded somewhere between Dutch and American, really weird I thought he was born and brought up in South Wales, is this not the case?

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Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:31 pm

thomasblue wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:If Bellamy had done the job Giggs has done bringing the youth through and trying to play and qualify people would have been praising him to the hilt. For varying reasons people don't like Giggs so he has had a lot of stick and people want him to. Fail. I think he has done a brilliant job irespective if we had qualified.

A lot like Hughes, Coleman let the squad grow old and didn't look outside his preferred selection. Giggs has done the work and brought in so many new faces and in my opinion the squad looks great.


He has done a good job but hes also blessed with the best squad of players Wales has ever had and probably the easiest group we've ever had in all honesty.

Credit to him but any manager should have been able to get that squad out of the group and it would have been a huge failure if we didnt

You can have watched Wales for long if you think this is our best ever squad! Apart from Ramsey who hasn’t played for a year and Bale whose also missed a lot of games, Giggs has brought in a lot of youngsters. Don’t you remember when we had Hughes,Rush, Saunders as strikers, Giggs and Speed as wingers, Southall and Radcliffe all top Premier League Players. Giggs has brought in a striker from Wigan, a Cardiff City reject Lockyer, a player from Lincoln and made them a very professional team!

Re: " WALES ARE GOING TO EURO 2020 / SURELY NOW GIGGS? "

Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:32 pm

Earnie scored against Hungary when we won 2-1 in Budapest after being a goal behind, so forget his accent He's one of us. By the way, the other Welsh goal was scored by a fellow bluebird, Jason Koumas. I think it was 2003, but I've been unwell since then, so apologies if I'm wrong :bluebird:

Re: " WALES ARE GOING TO EURO 2020 / SURELY NOW GIGGS? "

Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:34 pm

It's his because he's had his teeth fixed from alien to boy band.

Re: " WALES ARE GOING TO EURO 2020 / SURELY NOW GIGGS? "

Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:35 pm

Yes credit to Giggs but let’s honest this is the best Wales squad I’ve seen and without doubt they should have qualified from that group.
Well done all.
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Re: " WALES ARE GOING TO EURO 2020 / SURELY NOW GIGGS? "

Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:36 pm

Folks. Please don't turn this into a Giggs v Bellamy debate (or any other petty argument). We have qualified, so let's enjoy it.
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Re: " WALES ARE GOING TO EURO 2020 / SURELY NOW GIGGS? "

Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:38 pm

HarriRhys22 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:If Bellamy had done the job Giggs has done bringing the youth through and trying to play and qualify people would have been praising him to the hilt. For varying reasons people don't like Giggs so he has had a lot of stick and people want him to. Fail. I think he has done a brilliant job irespective if we had qualified.

A lot like Hughes, Coleman let the squad grow old and didn't look outside his preferred selection. Giggs has done the work and brought in so many new faces and in my opinion the squad looks great.


He has done a good job but hes also blessed with the best squad of players Wales has ever had and probably the easiest group we've ever had in all honesty.

Credit to him but any manager should have been able to get that squad out of the group and it would have been a huge failure if we didnt

You can have watched Wales for long if you think this is our best ever squad! Apart from Ramsey who hasn’t played for a year and Bale whose also missed a lot of games, Giggs has brought in a lot of youngsters. Don’t you remember when we had Hughes,Rush, Saunders as strikers, Giggs and Speed as wingers, Southall and Radcliffe all top Premier League Players. Giggs has brought in a striker from Wigan, a Cardiff City reject Lockyer, a player from Lincoln and made them a very professional team!


We have the best squad as a whole ever, I struggle to see how anybody can even dispute it.

Those players mentioned were good players but they were let down by the others around them

This squad has world class players and premier league quality throughout.

When was the last time we had a front 3 from Juventus, Real Madrid and Man utd ?

Re: " WALES ARE GOING TO EURO 2020 / SURELY NOW GIGGS? "

Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:49 pm

thomasblue wrote:
HarriRhys22 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:If Bellamy had done the job Giggs has done bringing the youth through and trying to play and qualify people would have been praising him to the hilt. For varying reasons people don't like Giggs so he has had a lot of stick and people want him to. Fail. I think he has done a brilliant job irespective if we had qualified.

A lot like Hughes, Coleman let the squad grow old and didn't look outside his preferred selection. Giggs has done the work and brought in so many new faces and in my opinion the squad looks great.


He has done a good job but hes also blessed with the best squad of players Wales has ever had and probably the easiest group we've ever had in all honesty.

Credit to him but any manager should have been able to get that squad out of the group and it would have been a huge failure if we didnt

You can have watched Wales for long if you think this is our best ever squad! Apart from Ramsey who hasn’t played for a year and Bale whose also missed a lot of games, Giggs has brought in a lot of youngsters. Don’t you remember when we had Hughes,Rush, Saunders as strikers, Giggs and Speed as wingers, Southall and Radcliffe all top Premier League Players. Giggs has brought in a striker from Wigan, a Cardiff City reject Lockyer, a player from Lincoln and made them a very professional team!


We have the best squad as a whole ever, I struggle to see how anybody can even dispute it.

Those players mentioned were good players but they were let down by the others around them

This squad has world class players and premier league quality throughout.

When was the last time we had a front 3 from Juventus, Real Madrid and Man utd ?

If this is the best squad ever please tell me why so many are not playing week in week out for their clubs?

Re: " WALES ARE GOING TO EURO 2020 / SURELY NOW GIGGS? "

Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:49 pm

thomasblue wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:If Bellamy had done the job Giggs has done bringing the youth through and trying to play and qualify people would have been praising him to the hilt. For varying reasons people don't like Giggs so he has had a lot of stick and people want him to. Fail. I think he has done a brilliant job irespective if we had qualified.

A lot like Hughes, Coleman let the squad grow old and didn't look outside his preferred selection. Giggs has done the work and brought in so many new faces and in my opinion the squad looks great.


He has done a good job but hes also blessed with the best squad of players Wales has ever had and probably the easiest group we've ever had in all honesty.

Credit to him but any manager should have been able to get that squad out of the group and it would have been a huge failure if we didnt


Well that's obviously nonsense :lol: weren't we top seed last tournament. You really talk nonsense :lol:

Giggs has brought into this squad many players we have never seen and put his faith in youth.

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Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:02 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:If Bellamy had done the job Giggs has done bringing the youth through and trying to play and qualify people would have been praising him to the hilt. For varying reasons people don't like Giggs so he has had a lot of stick and people want him to. Fail. I think he has done a brilliant job irespective if we had qualified.

A lot like Hughes, Coleman let the squad grow old and didn't look outside his preferred selection. Giggs has done the work and brought in so many new faces and in my opinion the squad looks great.


He has done a good job but hes also blessed with the best squad of players Wales has ever had and probably the easiest group we've ever had in all honesty.

Credit to him but any manager should have been able to get that squad out of the group and it would have been a huge failure if we didnt


Well that's obviously nonsense :lol: weren't we top seed last tournament. You really talk nonsense :lol:

Giggs has brought into this squad many players we have never seen and put his faith in youth.


Yes but when was the last time young welsh players like the ones we have now coming from Man utd and Chelsea plus other Premier league teams.
Our last group was much harder than this one. I would rather play Slovakia and Hungary than Belgium and Bosnia. Plus away trips to Israel and Cyprus.

Re: " WALES ARE GOING TO EURO 2020 / SURELY NOW GIGGS? "

Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:04 pm

TheHangedMan wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
HarriRhys22 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:If Bellamy had done the job Giggs has done bringing the youth through and trying to play and qualify people would have been praising him to the hilt. For varying reasons people don't like Giggs so he has had a lot of stick and people want him to. Fail. I think he has done a brilliant job irespective if we had qualified.

A lot like Hughes, Coleman let the squad grow old and didn't look outside his preferred selection. Giggs has done the work and brought in so many new faces and in my opinion the squad looks great.


He has done a good job but hes also blessed with the best squad of players Wales has ever had and probably the easiest group we've ever had in all honesty.

Credit to him but any manager should have been able to get that squad out of the group and it would have been a huge failure if we didnt

You can have watched Wales for long if you think this is our best ever squad! Apart from Ramsey who hasn’t played for a year and Bale whose also missed a lot of games, Giggs has brought in a lot of youngsters. Don’t you remember when we had Hughes,Rush, Saunders as strikers, Giggs and Speed as wingers, Southall and Radcliffe all top Premier League Players. Giggs has brought in a striker from Wigan, a Cardiff City reject Lockyer, a player from Lincoln and made them a very professional team!


We have the best squad as a whole ever, I struggle to see how anybody can even dispute it.

Those players mentioned were good players but they were let down by the others around them

This squad has world class players and premier league quality throughout.

When was the last time we had a front 3 from Juventus, Real Madrid and Man utd ?

If this is the best squad ever please tell me why so many are not playing week in week out for their clubs?


Mainly due to injuries and the fact they are at the biggest clubs in the world not league 1 and 2 like we are used to.

We can name a full 11 of premier league players easily, plus have others in reserve. When have we ever been able to do that ?

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Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:10 pm

that's two people not getting the credit they deserve. giggs.joe Allen two. I thought he was excellent tonight.

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Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:17 pm

Credit where credits due Giggs has turned it around and done the job he was asked of and got us to the Euros. We've also played some really good football over the past 2 games(even better when Ramsey is in the team) and its good to see Giggs bringing in the youngsters and not allowing the team to age. Bring on the Euros!!!

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Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:34 pm

Bluebird Warrior wrote:Credit where credits due Giggs has turned it around and done the job he was asked of and got us to the Euros. We've also played some really good football over the past 2 games(even better when Ramsey is in the team) and its good to see Giggs bringing in the youngsters and not allowing the team to age. Bring on the Euros!!!

Couldn't agree more, I wasn't a Giggs fan, however credit is due!! Can't wait for the draw now to see where are going next! :occasion5:

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Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:59 pm

I'm liking his policy,if you're good enough,you are old enough tbf,this squad he has put together could cause a few upsets,regardless of who we are grouped with. Well done wales,you bossed two very important games,and in some style too. :old: :bluebird:

Re: " WALES ARE GOING TO EURO 2020 / SURELY NOW GIGGS? "

Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:30 am

I think this bunch of players are head and shoulders above the ones that qualified last time.

Little old Wales attacking teams with players from Manchester United , Juventus and Real Madrid.

Re: " WALES ARE GOING TO EURO 2020 / SURELY NOW GIGGS? "

Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:02 am

thomasblue wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:If Bellamy had done the job Giggs has done bringing the youth through and trying to play and qualify people would have been praising him to the hilt. For varying reasons people don't like Giggs so he has had a lot of stick and people want him to. Fail. I think he has done a brilliant job irespective if we had qualified.

A lot like Hughes, Coleman let the squad grow old and didn't look outside his preferred selection. Giggs has done the work and brought in so many new faces and in my opinion the squad looks great.


He has done a good job but hes also blessed with the best squad of players Wales has ever had and probably the easiest group we've ever had in all honesty.

Credit to him but any manager should have been able to get that squad out of the group and it would have been a huge failure if we didnt


Well that's obviously nonsense :lol: weren't we top seed last tournament. You really talk nonsense :lol:

Giggs has brought into this squad many players we have never seen and put his faith in youth.


Yes but when was the last time young welsh players like the ones we have now coming from Man utd and Chelsea plus other Premier league teams.
Our last group was much harder than this one. I would rather play Slovakia and Hungary than Belgium and Bosnia. Plus away trips to Israel and Cyprus.



This one is far harder than previous qualification simply because all teams except Azerbaijan were of equal standing and it proved as teams took points of each other! tonight was only Giggs 16th game so hardly any pre taunement games to get team together... you are coming across as anti Giggs no matter what? Just give giggs the credit he deserves :thumbup:

Re: " WALES ARE GOING TO EURO 2020 / SURELY NOW GIGGS? "

Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:53 am

troobloo3339 wrote:
ffs wrote:When will we know what group we are in?

I think theres a clue in the draw will take place on the 30th november !!!




not that its much of a draw as far as we are concerned..

its either Baku / Rome. .or Copenhagen/ St Petersburg..