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KIEFFER MOORE / GLATZEL

Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:07 am

Watching moore in his last few games for wales is exactly what we want from glatzel would he be worth approaching wigan in january if we are going to carry on with hoof ball style of football, i cannot see us playing Barcelona style of football in the near future .

Re: KIEFFER MOORE / GLATZEL

Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:15 am

montyblue wrote:Watching moore in his last few games for wales is exactly what we want from glatzel would he be worth approaching wigan in january if we are going to carry on with hoof ball style of football, i cannot see us playing Barcelona style of football in the near future .

Not sure if he’s actually scored for Wigan mind.

Re: KIEFFER MOORE / GLATZEL

Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:18 am

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
montyblue wrote:Watching moore in his last few games for wales is exactly what we want from glatzel would he be worth approaching wigan in january if we are going to carry on with hoof ball style of football, i cannot see us playing Barcelona style of football in the near future .

Not sure if he’s actually scored for Wigan mind.



:banghead: :laughing5:

Re: KIEFFER MOORE / GLATZEL

Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:34 am

Moore gets good service playing for Wales, glatzel gets zero service playing for us! It’s no coincidence all of our strikers don’t score for us. However, hopefully, under a new manager that will change.

Re: KIEFFER MOORE / GLATZEL

Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:48 am

NIBluebird wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
montyblue wrote:Watching moore in his last few games for wales is exactly what we want from glatzel would he be worth approaching wigan in january if we are going to carry on with hoof ball style of football, i cannot see us playing Barcelona style of football in the near future .

Not sure if he’s actually scored for Wigan mind.



:banghead: :laughing5:

He’s scored 1 goal for Wigan, in something like 14 games, Wales give him better chances.

Re: KIEFFER MOORE / GLATZEL

Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:51 am

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
montyblue wrote:Watching moore in his last few games for wales is exactly what we want from glatzel would he be worth approaching wigan in january if we are going to carry on with hoof ball style of football, i cannot see us playing Barcelona style of football in the near future .

Not sure if he’s actually scored for Wigan mind.




he has scored 1

Re: KIEFFER MOORE / GLATZEL

Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:31 pm

Mr Potato wrote:Moore gets good service playing for Wales, glatzel gets zero service playing for us! It’s no coincidence all of our strikers don’t score for us. However, hopefully, under a new manager that will change.

Exactly, our strikers strikers are isolated by the way we play hopefully as you say new system might be able to get best out of our strikers

Re: KIEFFER MOORE / GLATZEL

Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:10 pm

Scored one but he should have had at least a hat trick

Re: KIEFFER MOORE / GLATZEL

Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:12 pm

caerblue wrote:Scored one but he should have had at least a hat trick




yep

Re: KIEFFER MOORE / GLATZEL

Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:32 pm

Mr Potato wrote:Moore gets good service playing for Wales, glatzel gets zero service playing for us! It’s no coincidence all of our strikers don’t score for us. However, hopefully, under a new manager that will change.


Right on the button or otherwise put.If Glatzel was Welsh he would flourish under Giggs' way of playing.

Re: KIEFFER MOORE / GLATZEL

Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:59 pm

Wasn't his 1 a penalty as well.

I like him but I don't really judge any of our strikers the way we play.

Re: KIEFFER MOORE / GLATZEL

Sun Nov 17, 2019 2:40 pm

Another certainty to happen on this board.

Welsh player not playing at a big club has a good game for Wales. That player must now be the dogs bollocks and we need to sign him. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: KIEFFER MOORE / GLATZEL

Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:39 pm

He has more determination to get on the end of a cross than glatzel you would think murphy holliet nml had never put a cross in for glatzel, its got nothing to do with him been welsh i just think that was the striker warnock was looking for, a bit like andy carroll aggresive and akward.

Re: KIEFFER MOORE / GLATZEL

Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:54 pm

Glatzel gets more than enough service, his problem is he does not have the football brain to consistently get in goal scoring positions. When he does he blows every chance anyway

His problem is he is just not good enough not the service he is getting

Re: KIEFFER MOORE / GLATZEL

Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:19 pm

Moore is an average journeyman who showed last night how average he is.

One nod in to an open net from 2 feet and about 6-7 misses which a decent striker would have put away about 4 of them.

Glatzel has more skill in his right toe nail.

Re: KIEFFER MOORE / GLATZEL

Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:41 pm

Danny Says wrote:Moore is an average journeyman who showed last night how average he is.

One nod in to an open net from 2 feet and about 6-7 misses which a decent striker would have put away about 4 of them.

Glatzel has more skill in his right toe nail.

Don’t talk sense he scored for Wales we are a welsh team he’s the perfect solution to all our problems.

I mean the last few welsh players we have signed have all turned out to be brilliant for us.

Jazz Richards with all those appearance for us.

Emyr huws the club icon gone on to bigger and better things.

Will Vaulks with those commanding midfield displays this season.

Kieffer Moore has got to sign for us 30+ goals a season with out question.

Re: KIEFFER MOORE / GLATZEL

Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:00 pm

thomasblue wrote:Glatzel gets more than enough service, his problem is he does not have the football brain to consistently get in goal scoring positions. When he does he blows every chance anyway

His problem is he is just not good enough not the service he is getting




agree
he doesn't read the game at all..
and be very surprised if we see him again as NW bought him so less pressure on Harris to play him..

Re: KIEFFER MOORE / GLATZEL

Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:34 pm

Llan_Blue wrote:Another certainty to happen on this board.

Welsh player not playing at a big club has a good game for Wales. That player must now be the dogs bollocks and we need to sign him. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Add him to the list ;)

Re: KIEFFER MOORE / GLATZEL

Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:52 am

Just curious as to what service you have seen. Every set piece is floated to the back post for header back across goal. Glatzel works very hard to create his own chances, and actually links play with wide or midfield players better than any other striker we have. Balls in the box for him are non existent, plus he has to work so hard outside the box on stupid floaty long ball, buts holds up well. Don’t let some missed chances blind your judgement.

Re: KIEFFER MOORE / GLATZEL

Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:38 am

Mr Potato wrote:Just curious as to what service you have seen. Every set piece is floated to the back post for header back across goal. Glatzel works very hard to create his own chances, and actually links play with wide or midfield players better than any other striker we have. Balls in the box for him are non existent, plus he has to work so hard outside the box on stupid floaty long ball, buts holds up well. Don’t let some missed chances blind your judgement.


Agree, Glatzel frequently makes runs behind and down the sides of the centre backs yet we have nobody making those passes and giving him a chance to get something at the end of those runs.

Just watch him in a game. He's anything but lazy, constantly stretching the centre back but unfortunately NW just wanted his centre forward to hold a central position and the whole system is set up in that way. When was the last time you saw any of our strikers played in for a one on one with the keeper ? I'm struggling to remember one in the last 2-3 seasons and therein lies the problem for Glatzel (and, going back, to a lesser extent, Zohore) in that he wants the ball in those channels to feet.

I still think Glatzel can play, it's just a matter of whether our new manager will allow him to.

Re: KIEFFER MOORE / GLATZEL

Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:46 am

We have Kieffer Moore already his name is Gary Madine

Re: KIEFFER MOORE / GLATZEL

Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:49 am

Sorry, but Moore is a terrible footballer

Re: KIEFFER MOORE / GLATZEL

Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:11 am

piledriver64 wrote:
Mr Potato wrote:Just curious as to what service you have seen. Every set piece is floated to the back post for header back across goal. Glatzel works very hard to create his own chances, and actually links play with wide or midfield players better than any other striker we have. Balls in the box for him are non existent, plus he has to work so hard outside the box on stupid floaty long ball, buts holds up well. Don’t let some missed chances blind your judgement.


Agree, Glatzel frequently makes runs behind and down the sides of the centre backs yet we have nobody making those passes and giving him a chance to get something at the end of those runs.

Just watch him in a game. He's anything but lazy, constantly stretching the centre back but unfortunately NW just wanted his centre forward to hold a central position and the whole system is set up in that way. When was the last time you saw any of our strikers played in for a one on one with the keeper ? I'm struggling to remember one in the last 2-3 seasons and therein lies the problem for Glatzel (and, going back, to a lesser extent, Zohore) in that he wants the ball in those channels to feet.

I still think Glatzel can play, it's just a matter of whether our new manager will allow him to.



not lazy..defo runs...bit like a poundland version of alex ravel...its him on a wavelength 2 levels down not the passer....rewatch the sheffield Wednesday game. and just how many times ralls has to not play the ball because glatzel is now heading into someone elses space taking a defender with him...and the interception when bennett is through on goal was Wednesdays most crucial moment bar their goal..

Re: KIEFFER MOORE / GLATZEL

Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:24 am

dogfound wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
Mr Potato wrote:Just curious as to what service you have seen. Every set piece is floated to the back post for header back across goal. Glatzel works very hard to create his own chances, and actually links play with wide or midfield players better than any other striker we have. Balls in the box for him are non existent, plus he has to work so hard outside the box on stupid floaty long ball, buts holds up well. Don’t let some missed chances blind your judgement.


Agree, Glatzel frequently makes runs behind and down the sides of the centre backs yet we have nobody making those passes and giving him a chance to get something at the end of those runs.

Just watch him in a game. He's anything but lazy, constantly stretching the centre back but unfortunately NW just wanted his centre forward to hold a central position and the whole system is set up in that way. When was the last time you saw any of our strikers played in for a one on one with the keeper ? I'm struggling to remember one in the last 2-3 seasons and therein lies the problem for Glatzel (and, going back, to a lesser extent, Zohore) in that he wants the ball in those channels to feet.

I still think Glatzel can play, it's just a matter of whether our new manager will allow him to.



not lazy..defo runs...bit like a poundland version of alex ravel...its him on a wavelength 2 levels down not the passer....rewatch the sheffield Wednesday game. and just how many times ralls has to not play the ball because glatzel is now heading into someone elses space taking a defender with him...and the interception when bennett is through on goal was Wednesdays most crucial moment bar their goal..

How do you know it’s someone else’s space though mate.

Re: KIEFFER MOORE / GLATZEL

Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:54 pm

I thought about that, would it be worth getting Moore in.

Because i still believe we have great wingers and what Giggs has done is identify that with Wales, made a system for it by using Moore. Something i never understood, we didnt do.

Kinda think of those players as the glue of a team, not great at anything but make it work

Re: KIEFFER MOORE / GLATZEL

Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:27 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
dogfound wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
Mr Potato wrote:Just curious as to what service you have seen. Every set piece is floated to the back post for header back across goal. Glatzel works very hard to create his own chances, and actually links play with wide or midfield players better than any other striker we have. Balls in the box for him are non existent, plus he has to work so hard outside the box on stupid floaty long ball, buts holds up well. Don’t let some missed chances blind your judgement.


Agree, Glatzel frequently makes runs behind and down the sides of the centre backs yet we have nobody making those passes and giving him a chance to get something at the end of those runs.

Just watch him in a game. He's anything but lazy, constantly stretching the centre back but unfortunately NW just wanted his centre forward to hold a central position and the whole system is set up in that way. When was the last time you saw any of our strikers played in for a one on one with the keeper ? I'm struggling to remember one in the last 2-3 seasons and therein lies the problem for Glatzel (and, going back, to a lesser extent, Zohore) in that he wants the ball in those channels to feet.

I still think Glatzel can play, it's just a matter of whether our new manager will allow him to.



not lazy..defo runs...bit like a poundland version of alex ravel...its him on a wavelength 2 levels down not the passer....rewatch the sheffield Wednesday game. and just how many times ralls has to not play the ball because glatzel is now heading into someone elses space taking a defender with him...and the interception when bennett is through on goal was Wednesdays most crucial moment bar their goal..

How do you know it’s someone else’s space though mate.


Yep, sometimes it's the passer not releasing at the right time or into the right area. 'm not saying I'm totally convinced by Glatzel but I certainly think he's worth persevering with under a new system because neither am I convinced with Ralls and Bacuna's ability to pick the right pass at the right time !!

Re: KIEFFER MOORE / GLATZEL

Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:30 am

Llan_Blue wrote:Another certainty to happen on this board.

Welsh player not playing at a big club has a good game for Wales. That player must now be the dogs bollocks and we need to sign him. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I've never heard of anyone assessing a players quality through the colour of the shirt? :? I thought he done well good holdup play very mobile for the size of him Can win headers easily aswell.

Re: KIEFFER MOORE / GLATZEL

Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:52 am

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
dogfound wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
Mr Potato wrote:Just curious as to what service you have seen. Every set piece is floated to the back post for header back across goal. Glatzel works very hard to create his own chances, and actually links play with wide or midfield players better than any other striker we have. Balls in the box for him are non existent, plus he has to work so hard outside the box on stupid floaty long ball, buts holds up well. Don’t let some missed chances blind your judgement.


Agree, Glatzel frequently makes runs behind and down the sides of the centre backs yet we have nobody making those passes and giving him a chance to get something at the end of those runs.

Just watch him in a game. He's anything but lazy, constantly stretching the centre back but unfortunately NW just wanted his centre forward to hold a central position and the whole system is set up in that way. When was the last time you saw any of our strikers played in for a one on one with the keeper ? I'm struggling to remember one in the last 2-3 seasons and therein lies the problem for Glatzel (and, going back, to a lesser extent, Zohore) in that he wants the ball in those channels to feet.

I still think Glatzel can play, it's just a matter of whether our new manager will allow him to.



not lazy..defo runs...bit like a poundland version of alex ravel...its him on a wavelength 2 levels down not the passer....rewatch the sheffield Wednesday game. and just how many times ralls has to not play the ball because glatzel is now heading into someone elses space taking a defender with him...and the interception when bennett is through on goal was Wednesdays most crucial moment bar their goal..

How do you know it’s someone else’s space though mate.



really ?

Re: KIEFFER MOORE / GLATZEL

Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:05 pm

piledriver64 wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
dogfound wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
Mr Potato wrote:Just curious as to what service you have seen. Every set piece is floated to the back post for header back across goal. Glatzel works very hard to create his own chances, and actually links play with wide or midfield players better than any other striker we have. Balls in the box for him are non existent, plus he has to work so hard outside the box on stupid floaty long ball, buts holds up well. Don’t let some missed chances blind your judgement.


Agree, Glatzel frequently makes runs behind and down the sides of the centre backs yet we have nobody making those passes and giving him a chance to get something at the end of those runs.

Just watch him in a game. He's anything but lazy, constantly stretching the centre back but unfortunately NW just wanted his centre forward to hold a central position and the whole system is set up in that way. When was the last time you saw any of our strikers played in for a one on one with the keeper ? I'm struggling to remember one in the last 2-3 seasons and therein lies the problem for Glatzel (and, going back, to a lesser extent, Zohore) in that he wants the ball in those channels to feet.

I still think Glatzel can play, it's just a matter of whether our new manager will allow him to.



not lazy..defo runs...bit like a poundland version of alex ravel...its him on a wavelength 2 levels down not the passer....rewatch the sheffield Wednesday game. and just how many times ralls has to not play the ball because glatzel is now heading into someone elses space taking a defender with him...and the interception when bennett is through on goal was Wednesdays most crucial moment bar their goal..

How do you know it’s someone else’s space though mate.


Yep, sometimes it's the passer not releasing at the right time or into the right area. 'm not saying I'm totally convinced by Glatzel but I certainly think he's worth persevering with under a new system because neither am I convinced with Ralls and Bacuna's ability to pick the right pass at the right time !!




im not talking about passing quickly enough. im talking about a player seeing a space running towards that space the passer clearly seeing it and glatzel completely on a different wavelength at best heading into it himself along with a defender or at worse { seen this too many times } busting a gut to intercept a very good pass to someone else..

Re: KIEFFER MOORE / GLATZEL

Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:06 pm

Swooping Madine who wants to go back North for Kieffer Moore May be a possibility as I’m sure both would jump at the chance?