FIFA have ordered Cardiff to pay 5% extra for Sala

FIFA have ordered Cardiff to pay Nantes an extra 5% interest on the owed late payment for the Sala transfer.

This is becoming an expensive refusal when adding in all damages and related costs.


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i can only see 1 outcome, and thats the 3 transfer window ban.

i can only see 1 outcome, and thats the 3 transfer window ban.

Only if city refuse to pay nantes after they lose appeal! Until then people can speculate to hearts content as to whether city will or won't pay up... suspect they will as any legal challenge against others will take years and that won't be acceptable to fifa . So will just have to wait until get definitive outcome from the appeal if it happens.

Not really sure that Fifa can do that legally or what even it has to do with them.
This is a legal matter now and way above FIFAs heads

Not really sure that Fifa can do that legally or what even it has to do with them.
This is a legal matter now and way above FIFAs heads

They cannot do that it is outside their remit!

Are you all saying the OP might have something wrong?

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FIFA have ordered Cardiff to pay Nantes an extra 5% interest on the owed late payment for the Sala transfer.

This is becoming an expensive refusal when adding in all damages and related costs.

where did you see that ?

Seems fair seeing as we've withheld their money

Are you all saying the OP might have something wrong?

Don’t be so silly of course I’m not wrong.

i can only see 1 outcome, and thats the 3 transfer window ban.

And we can only blame ourselves.

Not really sure that Fifa can do that legally or what even it has to do with them.
This is a legal matter now and way above FIFAs heads

They cannot do that it is outside their remit!

Yes they can.

Withholding payment is accruing interest for the club as the cash is earning interest when it shouldn’t be. That interest should be Nantes’ as it should be earning them maturity.

When things are overdue then interest is almost always added. FIFA have ruled that Cardiff pay the €6m + 5%.

This should have been sorted out a long time ago .

FIFA have ordered Cardiff to pay Nantes an extra 5% interest on the owed late payment for the Sala transfer.

This is becoming an expensive refusal when adding in all damages and related costs.

where did you see that ?

News outlets both in the UK and France are reporting it, makes sense really considering the nature of the ruling:-




Cardiff City have been given 45 days to pay the first instalment of the transfer that their owe FC Nantes, or else FIFA will impose a transfer ban for the next three windows.

FIFA have made this threat via a formal communiqué released today. The Bluebirds have been ordered to pay the initial €6m (plus an additional 5% in interest), which was the pre-agreed opening instalment balance for the first year.

At the end of September, Cardiff had already made it clear that they intended to bring the case to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS).

https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2 ... nsfer-ban/

https://amp.theguardian.com/football/20 ... ala-nantes

FIFA havent got the power to add interest on.

They'd nkt have a leg to stand on legally.

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FIFA havent got the power to add interest on.

They'd nkt have a leg to stand on legally.

True but Roathie (Buckley) has said it is

FIFA havent got the power to add interest on.

They'd nkt have a leg to stand on legally.

True but Roathie (Buckley) has said it is

Why do you think they don’t have the power to rule basic things like that?

Of course they do. It’s a financial dispute, this will include the interest Nantes are losing by not having the payment deemed rightfully theirs.

i can only see 1 outcome, and thats the 3 transfer window ban.

And we can only blame ourselves.

Do you blame yourself? Really?

FIFA havent got the power to add interest on.

They'd nkt have a leg to stand on legally.

True but Roathie (Buckley) has said it is

The official FIFA ruling document.

Page 19 of 21, Subsection II point 51:-

In conclusion, the Bureau decided that the claim of Nantes is partially accepted and that Cardiff have to pay Nantes the amount of €6,000,000 plus +5% interest p.a. as of 27th of January 2019.

Apology accepted of course from the people who came on here with the intent to troll and de-rail.

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Mmmm read most of the 21 pages defy anyone to read it all and understand it? But basically fifa used the fact city said he was their player as their logic for finding against city... but city argue that the contracts were not sighned and sealed satisfactory also city said fifa should not have made judgement until after least ciab investigation was complete ! Nothing is going to be sorted until at least CAS as made judgement on validity of contacts..... ps the interest on transfer is mentioned in opening part but is not because of non payment of 1st instalment due.. feel free to pick things apart wont expect anything less..

FIFA havent got the power to add interest on.

They'd nkt have a leg to stand on legally.

True but Roathie (Buckley) has said it is

The official FIFA ruling document.

Page 19 of 21, Subsection II point 51:-

In conclusion, the Bureau decided that the claim of Nantes is partially accepted and that Cardiff have to pay Nantes the amount of €6,000,000 plus +5% interest p.a. as of 27th of January 2019.

Apology accepted of course from the people who came on here with the intent to troll and de-rail.

Its also mentioned on page 2 you missed reading the 1st 19 pages ? Anyway wont derail your anymore roathy your not worth the time

Its also mentioned on page 2 you missed reading the 1st 19 pages ? Anyway wont derail your anymore roathy your not worth the time

No it didn’t, I assume that’s your lack of understanding of the document coming in to play?

Page 2 was simply highlighting what the claim is from Nantes.

Page 19 is the judgement handed down by FIFA.

Happy to help.

Mmmm read most of the 21 pages defy anyone to read it all and understand it? But basically fifa used the fact city said he was their player as their logic for finding against city... but city argue that the contracts were not sighned and sealed satisfactory also city said fifa should not have made judgement until after least ciab investigation was complete ! Nothing is going to be sorted until at least CAS as made judgement on validity of contacts..... ps the interest on transfer is mentioned in opening part but is not because of non payment of 1st instalment due.. feel free to pick things apart wont expect anything less..

1) Cardiff asked for the financial settlement decision to be delayed until after the criminal investigation. It was deemed that they were seperate issues and the request denied. Which of course is common sense.

2) Cardiff’s main point is that the player was not registered to play in the Premier League upon time of death and submitted a response from the PL which stated that his signing on bonus had to be rectified and comply with PL regulations prior to accepting registration to play in the competition. But of course this is irrelevant, the registration was sold - not the right to play in a specific competition.

3) Cardiff claimed that as Nantes stated they would only sell to a PL club and that bonus payments related to PL status then that means that it is invalid somehow. But again, Cardiff were still a PL club and that didn’t change due to the fact Sala was not registered as a PL player at the time. All bonus payments and stipulations regarding to that would not change the clubs status as a PL club.

4) the other main point made by Cardiff is that they believe Willie McKay was working for Nantes when he arranged the flight making them civilly liable for the damages. But of course that is another case altogether and would be a case to reclaim any monies paid. However due to McKay not following the instructions of Nantes to arrange a flight for him it seems highly unlikely that a sub contractor’s actions in an out of business exchange can attach blame to the parent deal maker. Any legal issue there would be between Cardiff and McKay’s company. But again this would be a civil case for damages and not a reason to not pay Nantes. However considering he is bankrupt, there is very little angle there for litigation.

Mmmm read most of the 21 pages defy anyone to read it all and understand it? But basically fifa used the fact city said he was their player as their logic for finding against city... but city argue that the contracts were not sighned and sealed satisfactory also city said fifa should not have made judgement until after least ciab investigation was complete ! Nothing is going to be sorted until at least CAS as made judgement on validity of contacts..... ps the interest on transfer is mentioned in opening part but is not because of non payment of 1st instalment due.. feel free to pick things apart wont expect anything less..

what else could the interest relate to other than the unpaid instalment ?

1) Nantes say that a termination of employment was signed and ratified by the French FA (LFP) on the 19th of Jan.

2) Nantes say that Cardiff then announced an employment contract with Sala on the 19th also.

3) Nantes state that the FAW granted international clearance on the 21st officially registering him with the club the TMS (Transfer matching system). Something that the FAW also backs.



On balance it seems that Cardiff’s argument has been put together by an intern. It’s embarrassing to read. Someone has seen a return email from the PL stating he isn’t officially registered with them and got all excited thinking that will get them out of it, not realising that registration to play in the certain competition is irrelevant.

Then the foray into the legal case is even more ludicrous and irrelevant. Any legal case is between McKays company and the club and nothing to do with Nantes. If the club appeal to CAS then I don’t know who is advising Tan but they need to be fired immediately. The cost and damage this frivolous appeal is doing to the club is terrible when the chance of victory is smaller than a gnats toenail.

what else could the interest relate to other than the unpaid instalment ?

It’s Pembroke Allan mate, I don’t think he knows what he’s talking about half the time (whether Sven deletes it or not)

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After reading most of that .
It looks like Cardiff legally will win the case , law always hinges on contracts and at the time of death the contract was not complete or signed. Therefore legally he was not our player. Nantes at the same time had also terminated the contract there end so on paper the player belonged to nobody.

Morally though we probably should pay something as it would have gone thorough.

Fifa are only judging it on wether the relevant registration paperwork was sent, legally that holds no real relevance

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After reading most of that .
It looks like Cardiff legally will win the case , law always hinges on contracts and at the time of death the contract was not complete or signed. Therefore legally he was not our player. Nantes at the same time had also terminated the contract there end so on paper the player belonged to nobody.

Morally though we probably should pay something as it would have gone thorough.

Fifa are only judging it on wether the relevant registration paperwork was sent, legally that holds no real relevance

what? How on earth can anyone reading that come to that conclusion?!

What you are referring to is registration with the Premier League... which is irrelevant.

His registration was cleared by the FAW and international clearance granted. He was a Cardiff City player that at time of death was ineligible to play in a certain competition.

Why are you all replying to the personality disordered freak? Takes the piss the mods are still letting this happen I dont post much but I'm fed up of even coming on because of this narcissistic prick. Ban the delinquent ffs.

Which bit was it you disagreed with then?

You were you just venting?