The 'Ion' Political Threads (Merged)

Haven't been on this forum that long or posted a lot but got to have a rant ,if an election comes up vote all these politicians out that have gone against the referendum result ,they are so arrogant saying people who voted leave didn't know what they were voting for ,yet they all said they would respect the result ,also these trade unions that support labour they would be the first to moan if they had a ballot for a strike and the employer said we don't like the result lets have another go ,i phoned up my union today to cancel my membership ,they asked why i said i don't want my money supporting the labour party they did not like it you could tell,and i have voted for labour in the past,Liberal Undemocratic party /Lying Labour /and the Jimmy cranky party vote them all out ,bo jo ain't perfect but hes trying to do the democratic thing .

Well Boy's, I have thought long and hard about this.

When I voted to LEAVE the EU in 2016 I had been voting since I was 18 years of age whilst in the military. I have voted in every election since (sometimes via Proxy whilst away) and I am Now pushing 60 years of age I am Proud to be Welsh and also Proud to be British. I have always believed that it was my civic duty to Vote in all elections (using the theory "If you don't vote then you have no right to moan").

I personally voted to LEAVE the EU mainly for the reason of regaining our sovereignty to our Great British Nation (and believe me when I say, After traveling the world - "we still live in the Best Country in the world").

To say that people did not know what they were voting for is an utter insult.

People who voted to STAY within the EU Lost the Referendum(A Democratic Question and a majority decision) but along with Politicians, naysayers, remoaners, Media, Multi Corporations, Banks, etc, etc have Never accepted the Democratic will of the people which WILL harm the democracy of this wonderful country forever.

When People voted in another Referendum for a Welsh Assembly, the majority YES vote was waffer thin, but did the loosers throw the toys out of the pram ? NO - That's what loosers do - accept the result and get on with it.

Anyway, you get my Opinion.

I am that old now and weary of seeing this fiasco go on and on and on, I have decided to take Personal drastic action for the rest of my life. My actions will not make any difference to anybody at all or any election result BUT it will make me feel I have had my "two penny's worth".

I will register to vote at every future election ballot and arrive to cast my vote.

BUT

This is what I will be Sticking to EVERY (local, national,referendum, etc) Ballot from now until I am unable to do so.

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I am fully aware that most people will say that spoiling my Ballot will result in NOTHING at all BUT I am that Mad with what these fools have done to our democracy, That's how I feel

But, Bluebirds Forever Eh !!

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see these clairvoyant leave voters...why didnt you tell us that the £350m was a lie? why didnt you tell us that the 'easiest deal in history' was a load of shit? why didnt you tell us that is would void the GFA?

you all knew what you voted for but i dont remember any of this being brought up by any of you. wish you'd have said sooner tbh

see these clairvoyant leave voters...why didnt you tell us that the £350m was a lie? why didnt you tell us that the 'easiest deal in history' was a load of shit? why didnt you tell us that is would void the GFA?

you all knew what you voted for but i dont remember any of this being brought up by any of you. wish you'd have said sooner tbh

You Do not need to be a clairvoyant to read what was on the ballot paper eh ?

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see these clairvoyant leave voters...why didnt you tell us that the £350m was a lie? why didnt you tell us that the 'easiest deal in history' was a load of shit? why didnt you tell us that is would void the GFA?

you all knew what you voted for but i dont remember any of this being brought up by any of you. wish you'd have said sooner tbh

well I did not vote leave or infact vote at all..

but since the vote the remain people just lie and lie and lie...

the figure on the bus was net...and maybe the leave campaign did not tell you this but the remain campaign definitely challenged it.
the easiest deal in history came from liam fox AFTER THE VOTE ..I assume thinking out meant out and not the soft terresa may version.
does it void the GFA...?
surely if your whole case revolves around mis truths its a damn good idea to be open and honest ?

see these clairvoyant leave voters...why didnt you tell us that the £350m was a lie? why didnt you tell us that the 'easiest deal in history' was a load of shit? why didnt you tell us that is would void the GFA?

you all knew what you voted for but i dont remember any of this being brought up by any of you. wish you'd have said sooner tbh

well I did not vote leave or infact vote at all..

but since the vote the remain people just lie and lie and lie...

the figure on the bus was net...and maybe the leave campaign did not tell you this but the remain campaign definitely challenged it.
the easiest deal in history came from liam fox AFTER THE VOTE ..I assume thinking out meant out and not the soft terresa may version.
does it void the GFA...?
surely if your whole case revolves around mis truths its a damn good idea to be open and honest ?

He also conveniently forgets to mention the lies from the remain camp. Emergency budget within weeks of a leave vote to save the British economy, increase in unemployment, stock market crash, high inflation etc. No emergency budget and none of the above happened.

Lets not diminish what has happened today. In order to get into power the opposition parties and labour in particular were willing to give the vote to 3 million foreign nationals at the drop of a hat. There isn't another country in the world where even trying that would be even tolerated. If they'd done that in France this afternoon the Champs Elysee would tonight be in flames.

see these clairvoyant leave voters...why didnt you tell us that the £350m was a lie? why didnt you tell us that the 'easiest deal in history' was a load of shit? why didnt you tell us that is would void the GFA?

you all knew what you voted for but i dont remember any of this being brought up by any of you. wish you'd have said sooner tbh

well I did not vote leave or infact vote at all..

but since the vote the remain people just lie and lie and lie...

the figure on the bus was net...and maybe the leave campaign did not tell you this but the remain campaign definitely challenged it.
the easiest deal in history came from liam fox AFTER THE VOTE ..I assume thinking out meant out and not the soft terresa may version.
does it void the GFA...?
surely if your whole case revolves around mis truths its a damn good idea to be open and honest ?

He also conveniently forgets to mention the lies from the remain camp. Emergency budget within weeks of a leave vote to save the British economy, increase in unemployment, stock market crash, high inflation etc. No emergency budget and none of the above happened.

I would 100% vote leave now whether its the best option or not , and have heard others say the same. democracy should mean more than a bunchof politicians trying to ignore a vote and the losing side just churning out one lie after another along with insulting those that voted leave ..old, thick, did not understand what they were voting for { the later made up AFTER the vote }.

Well Boy's, I have thought long and hard about this.

When I voted to LEAVE the EU in 2016 I had been voting since I was 18 years of age whilst in the military. I have voted in every election since (sometimes via Proxy whilst away) and I am Now pushing 60 years of age I am Proud to be Welsh and also Proud to be British. I have always believed that it was my civic duty to Vote in all elections (using the theory "If you don't vote then you have no right to moan").

I personally voted to LEAVE the EU mainly for the reason of regaining our sovereignty to our Great British Nation (and believe me when I say, After traveling the world - "we still live in the Best Country in the world").

To say that people did not know what they were voting for is an utter insult.

People who voted to STAY within the EU Lost the Referendum(A Democratic Question and a majority decision) but along with Politicians, naysayers, remoaners, Media, Multi Corporations, Banks, etc, etc have Never accepted the Democratic will of the people which WILL harm the democracy of this wonderful country forever.

When People voted in another Referendum for a Welsh Assembly, the majority YES vote was waffer thin, but did the loosers throw the toys out of the pram ? NO - That's what loosers do - accept the result and get on with it.

Anyway, you get my Opinion.

I am that old now and weary of seeing this fiasco go on and on and on, I have decided to take Personal drastic action for the rest of my life. My actions will not make any difference to anybody at all or any election result BUT it will make me feel I have had my "two penny's worth".

I will register to vote at every future election ballot and arrive to cast my vote.

BUT

This is what I will be Sticking to EVERY (local, national,referendum, etc) Ballot from now until I am unable to do so.

rsz_personal_protest.jpg

I am fully aware that most people will say that spoiling my Ballot will result in NOTHING at all BUT I am that Mad with what these fools have done to our democracy, That's how I feel

But, Bluebirds Forever Eh !!

Your right to be mad but if you do that you'll let them win. Your vote counts particularly in a tight seat like Brecon and Radnor but anywhere to be honest.

see these clairvoyant leave voters...why didnt you tell us that the £350m was a lie? why didnt you tell us that the 'easiest deal in history' was a load of shit? why didnt you tell us that is would void the GFA?

you all knew what you voted for but i dont remember any of this being brought up by any of you. wish you'd have said sooner tbh

well I did not vote leave or infact vote at all..

but since the vote the remain people just lie and lie and lie...

the figure on the bus was net...and maybe the leave campaign did not tell you this but the remain campaign definitely challenged it.
the easiest deal in history came from liam fox AFTER THE VOTE ..I assume thinking out meant out and not the soft terresa may version.
does it void the GFA...?
surely if your whole case revolves around mis truths its a damn good idea to be open and honest ?

He also conveniently forgets to mention the lies from the remain camp. Emergency budget within weeks of a leave vote to save the British economy, increase in unemployment, stock market crash, high inflation etc. No emergency budget and none of the above happened.

We send 350m to EU let's use it for for NHS! Is that a lie? Considering we havent left it cannot be a lie.... but this is the hypocracy of remain they never lied about economy or the number of other scare stories that didn't happen if we voted out....

see these clairvoyant leave voters...why didnt you tell us that the £350m was a lie? why didnt you tell us that the 'easiest deal in history' was a load of shit? why didnt you tell us that is would void the GFA?

you all knew what you voted for but i dont remember any of this being brought up by any of you. wish you'd have said sooner tbh

well I did not vote leave or infact vote at all..

but since the vote the remain people just lie and lie and lie...

the figure on the bus was net...and maybe the leave campaign did not tell you this but the remain campaign definitely challenged it.
the easiest deal in history came from liam fox AFTER THE VOTE ..I assume thinking out meant out and not the soft terresa may version.
does it void the GFA...?
surely if your whole case revolves around mis truths its a damn good idea to be open and honest ?

He also conveniently forgets to mention the lies from the remain camp. Emergency budget within weeks of a leave vote to save the British economy, increase in unemployment, stock market crash, high inflation etc. No emergency budget and none of the above happened.

I would 100% vote leave now whether its the best option or not , and have heard others say the same. democracy should mean more than a bunchof politicians trying to ignore a vote and the losing side just churning out one lie after another along with insulting those that voted leave ..old, thick, did not understand what they were voting for { the later made up AFTER the vote }.

Always thought it strange that only leave voters did not know what they were voting for. Leave voters had access to exactly the same information that remain voters had, but obviously only remain voters had the super intelligence to know what they were voting for while the poor leave voters lacked the intelligence to take in the information provided. As Allan says, remain campaigners continually go on about NHS funding. We have not left yet, so there are no additional funds to be allocated, and we have no idea exactly how much extra will be given to the NHS until we leave. One thing we are 100% sure of, there was no economic collapse as Osbourne had predicted, and none of his other predictions were correct. Who really told the pack of lies? We know Osbourne did for a start.

see these clairvoyant leave voters...why didnt you tell us that the £350m was a lie? why didnt you tell us that the 'easiest deal in history' was a load of shit? why didnt you tell us that is would void the GFA?

you all knew what you voted for but i dont remember any of this being brought up by any of you. wish you'd have said sooner tbh

well I did not vote leave or infact vote at all..

but since the vote the remain people just lie and lie and lie...

the figure on the bus was net...and maybe the leave campaign did not tell you this but the remain campaign definitely challenged it.
the easiest deal in history came from liam fox AFTER THE VOTE ..I assume thinking out meant out and not the soft terresa may version.
does it void the GFA...?
surely if your whole case revolves around mis truths its a damn good idea to be open and honest ?

He also conveniently forgets to mention the lies from the remain camp. Emergency budget within weeks of a leave vote to save the British economy, increase in unemployment, stock market crash, high inflation etc. No emergency budget and none of the above happened.

I would 100% vote leave now whether its the best option or not , and have heard others say the same. democracy should mean more than a bunchof politicians trying to ignore a vote and the losing side just churning out one lie after another along with insulting those that voted leave ..old, thick, did not understand what they were voting for { the later made up AFTER the vote }.

Always thought it strange that only leave voters did not know what they were voting for. Leave voters had access to exactly the same information that remain voters had, but obviously only remain voters had the super intelligence to know what they were voting for while the poor leave voters lacked the intelligence to take in the information provided. As Allan says, remain campaigners continually go on about NHS funding. We have not left yet, so there are no additional funds to be allocated, and we have no idea exactly how much extra will be given to the NHS until we leave. One thing we are 100% sure of, there was no economic collapse as Osbourne had predicted, and none of his other predictions were correct. Who really told the pack of lies? We know Osbourne did for a start.

Remaining in the EU = status quo was always a complete myth. We have no more idea of what the future holds in it or out of it and no can tell you either. There's been no 10 year period where the EU hasn't changed significantly since we've been it. The next 10 years was shaping up to be no different.

Osbourne's predictions were born from his pro European ideology as were John Major's in 1992. History now is the absolute judge of those and they couldn't have been genuinely that far out. An economy that was forecast to spiral downwards turned in the opposite direction overnight resulting in the longest period of sustained growth in memory.

see these clairvoyant leave voters...why didnt you tell us that the £350m was a lie? why didnt you tell us that the 'easiest deal in history' was a load of shit? why didnt you tell us that is would void the GFA?

you all knew what you voted for but i dont remember any of this being brought up by any of you. wish you'd have said sooner tbh

well I did not vote leave or infact vote at all..

but since the vote the remain people just lie and lie and lie...

the figure on the bus was net...and maybe the leave campaign did not tell you this but the remain campaign definitely challenged it.
the easiest deal in history came from liam fox AFTER THE VOTE ..I assume thinking out meant out and not the soft terresa may version.
does it void the GFA...?
surely if your whole case revolves around mis truths its a damn good idea to be open and honest ?

He also conveniently forgets to mention the lies from the remain camp. Emergency budget within weeks of a leave vote to save the British economy, increase in unemployment, stock market crash, high inflation etc. No emergency budget and none of the above happened.

If both sides have lied then surely you should be in favour of a second referendum now that you know more information and that information at the time was wrong.
Switzerland had a referendum and when it turned out that the information given was wrong they had another so why can't we?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co ... e-47879777

see these clairvoyant leave voters...why didnt you tell us that the £350m was a lie? why didnt you tell us that the 'easiest deal in history' was a load of shit? why didnt you tell us that is would void the GFA?

you all knew what you voted for but i dont remember any of this being brought up by any of you. wish you'd have said sooner tbh

well I did not vote leave or infact vote at all..

but since the vote the remain people just lie and lie and lie...

the figure on the bus was net...and maybe the leave campaign did not tell you this but the remain campaign definitely challenged it.
the easiest deal in history came from liam fox AFTER THE VOTE ..I assume thinking out meant out and not the soft terresa may version.
does it void the GFA...?
surely if your whole case revolves around mis truths its a damn good idea to be open and honest ?

He also conveniently forgets to mention the lies from the remain camp. Emergency budget within weeks of a leave vote to save the British economy, increase in unemployment, stock market crash, high inflation etc. No emergency budget and none of the above happened.

If both sides have lied then surely you should be in favour of a second referendum now that you know more information and that information at the time was wrong.
Switzerland had a referendum and when it turned out that the information given was wrong they had another so why can't we?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co ... e-47879777

Then what you lose again what do you do then?
I know do what Ireland did have another referendum then another until politicians got what they wanted not the public! the information from remainers was wrong aswell like emergency budget melt down in economy ect ect . Why cant you accept the country voted out 17m people were not hoodwinked! Or are you saying 15m people (minority) were the only ones who knew what is best for uk?

Switzerland had a referendum and when it turned out that the information given was wrong they had another so why can't we?

They wear clogs, frequently slap their thighs, and do a lot of yodelling..

You wouldn’t want that Josh..

see these clairvoyant leave voters...why didnt you tell us that the £350m was a lie? why didnt you tell us that the 'easiest deal in history' was a load of shit? why didnt you tell us that is would void the GFA?

you all knew what you voted for but i dont remember any of this being brought up by any of you. wish you'd have said sooner tbh

well I did not vote leave or infact vote at all..

but since the vote the remain people just lie and lie and lie...

the figure on the bus was net...and maybe the leave campaign did not tell you this but the remain campaign definitely challenged it.
the easiest deal in history came from liam fox AFTER THE VOTE ..I assume thinking out meant out and not the soft terresa may version.
does it void the GFA...?
surely if your whole case revolves around mis truths its a damn good idea to be open and honest ?

He also conveniently forgets to mention the lies from the remain camp. Emergency budget within weeks of a leave vote to save the British economy, increase in unemployment, stock market crash, high inflation etc. No emergency budget and none of the above happened.

If both sides have lied then surely you should be in favour of a second referendum now that you know more information and that information at the time was wrong.
Switzerland had a referendum and when it turned out that the information given was wrong they had another so why can't we?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co ... e-47879777

Both sides will lie again, just as all the parties will make impossible promises in the run up to Dec 12th. Every election during my lifetime has been won and lost on the back of lies. It is up to us to do our own homework, decide which policies have half a chance of being carried out, and to decide which party is telling the least amount of lies. I'm afraid if you believe what politicians say, and what will actually happen, you are very naïve. It will become obvious as we approach the election that figures given by all the political parties will just not add up. Political parties will do anything and everything to get themselves elected, and telling the truth will not be very high on their agenda.

We had a vote leave or remain ,the UK around the world is known for being one of the most democratic places on earth ,respect the result ,just cos people didn't like the result it doesn't mean lets try again ,every politician lies in an election run up, so does that mean if a party wins this election i didn't vote for lets disregard the result and have another go, no it does not you just suck it up and respect democracy .

Stop paying your union fees, cut off his funding and don't vote for him ,if you voted labour all your life does not mean you got to carry on voting for a party lead by an IRA sympathiser .

I worked in the GMB and Unite Buildings in Cardiff.. biggest bunch of self-righteous know it all tossers i've ever had the misfortune to..not unlike the Cuckoo on here..

Surrounding yourself with like minded people leads to inertia, but they're happy.

All as bad as each other !!!

Well Boy's, I have thought long and hard about this.

When I voted to LEAVE the EU in 2016 I had been voting since I was 18 years of age whilst in the military. I have voted in every election since (sometimes via Proxy whilst away) and I am Now pushing 60 years of age I am Proud to be Welsh and also Proud to be British. I have always believed that it was my civic duty to Vote in all elections (using the theory "If you don't vote then you have no right to moan").

I personally voted to LEAVE the EU mainly for the reason of regaining our sovereignty to our Great British Nation (and believe me when I say, After traveling the world - "we still live in the Best Country in the world").

To say that people did not know what they were voting for is an utter insult.

People who voted to STAY within the EU Lost the Referendum(A Democratic Question and a majority decision) but along with Politicians, naysayers, remoaners, Media, Multi Corporations, Banks, etc, etc have Never accepted the Democratic will of the people which WILL harm the democracy of this wonderful country forever.

When People voted in another Referendum for a Welsh Assembly, the majority YES vote was waffer thin, but did the loosers throw the toys out of the pram ? NO - That's what loosers do - accept the result and get on with it.

Anyway, you get my Opinion.

I am that old now and weary of seeing this fiasco go on and on and on, I have decided to take Personal drastic action for the rest of my life. My actions will not make any difference to anybody at all or any election result BUT it will make me feel I have had my "two penny's worth".

I will register to vote at every future election ballot and arrive to cast my vote.

BUT

This is what I will be Sticking to EVERY (local, national,referendum, etc) Ballot from now until I am unable to do so.

rsz_personal_protest.jpg

I am fully aware that most people will say that spoiling my Ballot will result in NOTHING at all BUT I am that Mad with what these fools have done to our democracy, That's how I feel

But, Bluebirds Forever Eh !!

That will be wasting yours and everyone's time, the politicians will be happy that they have ground you down and defeated you into submission, you are basically saying I am not going to vote for leave which is what I wanted, you win remain if you like then.

The fact that they have treated us badly should mean the complete opposite that you vote for a leave party and help get all the remainer MP's sacked like dogs!

Lets not diminish what has happened today. In order to get into power the opposition parties and labour in particular were willing to give the vote to 3 million foreign nationals at the drop of a hat. There isn't another country in the world where even trying that would be even tolerated. If they'd done that in France this afternoon the Champs Elysee would tonight be in flames.

That is true, anything to get into power!

see these clairvoyant leave voters...why didnt you tell us that the £350m was a lie? why didnt you tell us that the 'easiest deal in history' was a load of shit? why didnt you tell us that is would void the GFA?

you all knew what you voted for but i dont remember any of this being brought up by any of you. wish you'd have said sooner tbh

well I did not vote leave or infact vote at all..

but since the vote the remain people just lie and lie and lie...

the figure on the bus was net...and maybe the leave campaign did not tell you this but the remain campaign definitely challenged it.
the easiest deal in history came from liam fox AFTER THE VOTE ..I assume thinking out meant out and not the soft terresa may version.
does it void the GFA...?
surely if your whole case revolves around mis truths its a damn good idea to be open and honest ?

He also conveniently forgets to mention the lies from the remain camp. Emergency budget within weeks of a leave vote to save the British economy, increase in unemployment, stock market crash, high inflation etc. No emergency budget and none of the above happened.

If both sides have lied then surely you should be in favour of a second referendum now that you know more information and that information at the time was wrong.
Switzerland had a referendum and when it turned out that the information given was wrong they had another so why can't we?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co ... e-47879777

We've had the vote, you lost, your last chance is for a remain party to win the election, which I don't think will happen, Boris should do an unofficial pact with Farage and tie up the Labour Northen and Midland seats!

Haven't been on this forum that long or posted a lot but got to have a rant ,if an election comes up vote all these politicians out that have gone against the referendum result ,they are so arrogant saying people who voted leave didn't know what they were voting for ,yet they all said they would respect the result ,also these trade unions that support labour they would be the first to moan if they had a ballot for a strike and the employer said we don't like the result lets have another go ,i phoned up my union today to cancel my membership ,they asked why i said i don't want my money supporting the labour party they did not like it you could tell,and i have voted for labour in the past,Liberal Undemocratic party /Lying Labour /and the Jimmy cranky party vote them all out ,bo jo ain't perfect but hes trying to do the democratic thing .

i dont think this is off topic for this place anymore mate.

I've found out you can tell your union that you don't want to make a political contribution out of your union fees , that way you don't have to give to Corbyn but are still covered for work purposes

The remoaners are full of lies too actually every election we all vote and they all lie

However my issue is a vote took place the result was Leave then leave we should have done back in 2016

The 1 truth is to many MPs will loose money especially the Lib Dem woman whos husband has business in Europe therefore
ignoring the vote and the rights of the 17.4 million people just for her bank account.

So what is the point of an election as until the euro vote is finally accepted and actioned no vote is worth it as they will do what they like.

Stop paying your union fees, cut off his funding and don't vote for him ,if you voted labour all your life does not mean you got to carry on voting for a party lead by an IRA sympathiser .

I got dragged into being a "labour" supporter in mid eighties, union stuff. Long story short, the ladies were fat, good looking guys f*cking everything and anything male wise.
The Tory party conference, public school ladies, whey hey.

Stop paying your union fees, cut off his funding and don't vote for him ,if you voted labour all your life does not mean you got to carry on voting for a party lead by an IRA sympathiser .

I got dragged into being a "labour" supporter in mid eighties, union stuff. Long story short, the ladies were fat, good looking guys f*cking everything and anything male wise.
The Tory party conference, public school ladies, whey hey.