Are fans losing faith in Neil Warnock ?

There seems to be a lot of unhappy posts regarding this and the last few transfer windows, with various NW quotes being mentioned about reasons for not buying any marquee signings.

Are fans seeing through the NW spin ?
Is the ambition of the fans bigger than that of NW and the club ?
Is NW being realistic or is his ego getting in the way ?
Has Tan really opened up the budget or is NW as a paid employee spinning things away from his employers ?

We all appreciate the things that NW has done for this club and they are never to be underestimated however, by openly saying about retiring at the end of the season and even worse by Xmas if not challenging, are fans already looking to the future as to what happens next ?

Surely as a Championship club that has been promoted twice in 6 years to the premier league, with a huge and loyal fan base, situated in a capitol city, the club can be at least spun into an attractive club for players to join ?

Or is it simply as someone mentioned in another post, player power nowadays means that we are not attractive to big time Charlie’s or wannabes due to the wage restraints (why upset the apple cart) or the fact that we have a decronian manager that calls all the shots and no one else to run to when the going gets tough ?

Either way are fans losing faith in NW and the ability of him and the club to attract decent signings ? I for one hope not.

Good questions and I don’t think people, in general, are losing faith in Warnock.
Of course, there are some who think we just be throwing millions and millions at players and others who understand Warnock and the club.

The problems will come if and when we struggle after ten games or so.
Then the Warnock signings etc will be thrown back at him and the unrest will start.

Hopefully, it doesn’t come to that.

Tans pockets are not that deep. I’d like to see a manager play football, think quality players will give us a miss on style..

The recruitment has been unproductive in the last 2 seasons.

Thats why fans are questioning the ambition of the club.

No, I think fans are just frustrated we don't spend big money on players, however I'm fine with this as only spending what we can afford (don't want to be next bolton or bury) . I'm sure I read without tan we were losing money each month ,so if tan were to leave we'd be fucked. I think the club chucking money at players are gone . Club are being sensible imo

Not losing faith, but questioning the judgement of the transfer team. One for the Stato’s, but how many players has NW brought to our club, and how many of them have ended up being on the transfer list?

It's more about the signings that he doesnt play? Spending little is no problem but not addressing obvious weaknesses is and compounding it by refusing to play signings in those positions causes frustration and doubts ....

Spending is an issue but no one seems to be mentioning that we may have to pay out £15mil for Sala if we are ordered to.

Jesus Christ what happens if we lose 2.

I think it may well have been a mistake to announce his retirement at the end of the season.
it was only a few months ago he was mentioning managing for a few more years, if not at Cardiff then somewhere else.

Still the best manager for the job though,our fans are fickle as we all know.
This board will be in meltdown if we fail to win on saturday

It's more about the signings that he doesnt play? Spending little is no problem but not addressing obvious weaknesses is and compounding it by refusing to play signings in those positions causes frustration and doubts ....

To me Warnock is and probably will be one of our best ever managers.

Getting us promoted was a huge achievement and he deserves massive credit for that

But like many fans I am very frustrated by our transfer business this summer

I think it was plain to virtually everyone that to get back into the premier league we needed a proven goal scorer a midfield general and a more attacking full back. It’s early days to judge some of the signings but it’s possible that we haven’t yet addressed any of these problem areas and we have gone for quantity over quality

I hope I’m wrong but from being quietly confident of promotion 8 weeks ago I think we might even struggle to reach the playoffs

He has spent more than enough to build a very good championship squad. Love Warnock but he has his limitations.

Not losing faith but he has to be judged by his decisions. People go OTT after 1 game but after 10 games I will judge him.

No way am I going to lose faith in a manager one game into the season. The same manager who has already taken us up once, and got within 2 points of doing what the pundits and bookies said was impossible, especially as some believed we would finish bottom with a record low number of points.

It's more about the signings that he doesnt play? Spending little is no problem but not addressing obvious weaknesses is and compounding it by refusing to play signings in those positions causes frustration and doubts ....

To me Warnock is and probably will be one of our best ever managers.

Getting us promoted was a huge achievement and he deserves massive credit for that

But like many fans I am very frustrated by our transfer business this summer

I think it was plain to virtually everyone that to get back into the premier league we needed a proven goal scorer a midfield general and a more attacking full back. It’s early days to judge some of the signings but it’s possible that we haven’t yet addressed any of these problem areas and we have gone for quantity over quality

I hope I’m wrong but from being quietly confident of promotion 8 weeks ago I think we might even struggle to reach the playoffs

Obviously we have to wait until tomorrow to form a concrete opinion of his signings but looking doubtful if fill all 3 key areas is that going to be an hindrance time will tell! But like you I'm more hopeful than confident of top 2/6 position this season.

I can see where the worry is with some fans..two years ago NW said Tomlin was his number one target...but appears to have been 3.5 million wasted...Madine for 6million another waste....both Murphy and Reid have been used sparingly with reid not fitting in...our style differs from Bristol city.

3.5 million wasted on Smithies
3 million wasted on Cunningham
and why he paid 3 million for Bacuna defeats me.

He unearthed gems in Mendez Lang and Etheridge

But our midfield is surely a priority Ralls and Bacuna are not the answer....we need someone with the energy of arter......maybe thats Vaulks someone with pace infront of the back four to cover them and someone to replace the guile of Camarasa

I think Paterson and ward can cover Glatzel...i would rather the midfield is strengthened.

I was not overjoyed by his signings the year we went up I am not excited now either let’s hope the end result is the same the season

Saved the club , but every one as a best by date , style of football so predictable, some of the signings very poor .

The bigger picture is the important thing.

NW got us promoted to the PL on a shoestring and against all the odds even if he did waste £3m on Tomlin and £6m on Madine. He came within 3 points of keeping this club which was basically a Championship side in the PL despite the tragedy of what happened to Sala and who knows what might have been if he had arrived safely.

NW will be responsible for bringing in £200m+ over a three year period which easily outstrips any transfer mistakes.

ATM he is head and shoulders above anyone out there who we could bring in as a replacement.

Good god,what will happen if we fail to win on saturday? warnock out banners. Please be very careful what you wish for.

For people doubting Warnock,if he were to go tomorrow then who could do a better job on his resources?
Not many to choose from is there?

The recruitment has been unproductive in the last 2 seasons.

Thats why fans are questioning the ambition of the club.

Whilst some signings have been disappointing to say that is mad. We'd all like a marquee signing but that's not how Warnock works. He will create a squad that can compete, one way or the other.

Firstly we've been promoted, and relegated, in the last two seasons. Hardly unproductive.

Recruitment successes are there to see. Arter, Camarassa, Reid, Etheridge, Flint. The jury is out on the new striker but if he get 10-15 goals and we get another midfielder/striker we won't be far away.

Let's just see where we are at the closure of the transfer window.

No
He does make me baffled sometimes with line ups and substitutions etc..
But at the end of the day, he has had a lot more promotions than i do and knows a lot more than i do.
He works with these players week in week out.
He sees things we don't, attitude, work rate, desire etc...
In Warnock i trust, one of the best if not the best we've had, we should be grateful. Remember where we were before he came, he deserves respect.

They shouldn’t be. Warnock has a history of getting teams out of this league and has made the impossible possible on a number of occasions. Before he came the fans and the club were divided by the owners which by large isn’t the case anymore. He also has a habit of taking unknown/unfancied players and turning them good. It’s early days yet - plenty of time to get things right which I think he will.

The bigger picture is the important thing.

NW got us promoted to the PL on a shoestring and against all the odds even if he did waste £3m on Tomlin and £6m on Madine. He came within 3 points of keeping this club which was basically a Championship side in the PL despite the tragedy of what happened to Sala and who knows what might have been if he had arrived safely.

NW will be responsible for bringing in £200m+ over a three year period which easily outstrips any transfer mistakes.

ATM he is head and shoulders above anyone out there who we could bring in as a replacement.

Whilst I am frustrated by some of the transfer business this post pretty much hits the nail on the head to be fair.

The bigger picture is the important thing.

NW got us promoted to the PL on a shoestring and against all the odds even if he did waste £3m on Tomlin and £6m on Madine. He came within 3 points of keeping this club which was basically a Championship side in the PL despite the tragedy of what happened to Sala and who knows what might have been if he had arrived safely.

NW will be responsible for bringing in £200m+ over a three year period which easily outstrips any transfer mistakes.

ATM he is head and shoulders above anyone out there who we could bring in as a replacement.

Well said

There’s a big difference between losing faith and questioning one or two decisions.No is perfect.
Roll on Saturday.

Lots of good comment on signings not made and signings of players for strong money that don't feature. What about the ones we've let go? For a side based on solid defence, weve let Manga and Gunner go and are weaker until properly replaced. Manga our quickest defender and Gunner a street wise savvy cdm who never relied on pace and I'm sure would still do a job this season. As well as having a variety of signed misfits it seems we havent tried very hard to keep our strength either.

i will back Warnock through thick and thin.
He of course made history with our club he deserves 1 last push for promotion.

Long time poster, who views rather than posts these days. But this topic is something I had to contribute to.

I like Neil, he's not everyones cup of tea, he is clearly a very good motivator, a good manager in a scrappy game, fantastic with the press and the fans, geeing us up with his fist pumps etc. But it ends there for me.

Theres much more qualities than that needed in the modern game to be a success on the pitch and off it. Promotion came in a strange year for the championship, a lot of the fancied sides struggled and were clearly embarking on new projects and were in transition. It was a scrappy league hence why Neil did so well. However the entertainment value and quality of football was not great and never has been for me. Slow defence, long balls going over the top of the midfield, who regularly get out bossed in the stats. Never got in a regularly consistent striker. You fly or fall based on your signings. I could go on, weird substitutions, negative team selection and tactics.

I shout to the rooftops for my team no matter whose in charge, but I haven't lost faith in Neil, I never had it to begin with.

Keeping us up until the end of his first season should have been the agreement and thats it. Then a change, I have not enjoyed or been excited by my football down the City since Dave Jones worked with Bellamy, Ramsey, Koumas, Bothroyd, Chopra, Burke, McCormack etc etc. Neil wouldn't have signed those players.

I hoped last season would have been his last, and a fresh start was upon us, with a set philosophy for fluid attacking football, with good passing and pace. Easier said than done maybe, but Thats what makes modern football so great and addictive.

Neils footballing philosophy is a million miles away from that, and I believe a change last Christmas could well have seen a new man take us in a new direction tactically and have kept us up.

I like Neil, I cheer him and the boys on every week. But his football has never been for me. I see nothing different this season unless we get an amazing last two days of the window which is unlikely, as the window to date has been uninspiring filler signings. I fear for the season ahead, but always hope, always keep the faith

No not at all
Some of our fans need a reality check, thing is a lot only started supporting last 10/15 years.. which are the good times...
I think a majority of our fans are pathetic