M4 Relief road cancelled

Stunned. Should have been built 20 years ago.

Absolute madness, let's be honest it's not even a motorway by Brynglas it's a 40mph dual carriageway.

first proposed in 1991.
are they real.

I wish there was a campaign for a 2nd assembly referendum

first proposed in 1991.
are they real.

I wish there was a campaign for a 2nd assembly referendum

Should have got on with it as soon as they finished the second Severn crossing. Unfortunately a labour government in Westminster then devolution put paid to that. Labour cancelled the Channel tunnel FFS and if Thatcher had come along that may never have been built. Millions of people off the road and out of planes.

My journeys from Taunton to CCS ( especially Tuesday night games now back in the Championship ), are not going to get any easier. Grrr

Victory for the tree huggers and newt lovers!

What a colossal waste of money over the past twenty years getting nowhere.

Why is it that only the most incompetent, inept, two faced idiots become politicians?

Another massive blow to the businesses and economy of South Wales.

So which party has cancelled this? or is that not how it works

Hmmmm,some of us remember when the M25 was touted as the answer to London's traffic congestion. Not guaranteed to fix the problem and to date no businesses had signed to help with the cost.That would be left to the WAG to levy the cost on us with their new tax raising powers.Too many glib comments.

Victory for the tree huggers and newt lovers!

What a colossal waste of money over the past twenty years getting nowhere.

Why is it that only the most incompetent, inept, two faced idiots become politicians?

Another massive blow to the businesses and economy of South Wales.

not quite sure how this works tbh..ive read at a huge environmental cost should the road have been built but what about all the varying speeds, stop start, gear changing and hitting the brakes for miles and miles leading to those tunnels..

Hmmmm,some of us remember when the M25 was touted as the answer to London's traffic congestion. Not guaranteed to fix the problem and to date no businesses had signed to help with the cost.That would be left to the WAG to levy the cost on us with their new tax raising powers.Too many glib comments.

Where would London be without the M25 ? It doesn't bare thinking. This decision sends out a terrible decision to those thinking of investing in Wales and in particular those relying in anyway on the transport network. If those in power aren't willing to invest in this critically needed bit of infrastructure then what are they capable of providing. Nothing of any substance must be the conclusion.

Hmmmm,some of us remember when the M25 was touted as the answer to London's traffic congestion. Not guaranteed to fix the problem and to date no businesses had signed to help with the cost.That would be left to the WAG to levy the cost on us with their new tax raising powers.Too many glib comments.

glib comments...
having already come up with the M25 whopper...wow...

So which party has cancelled this? or is that not how it works

a public inquiry said the case for the relief road is compelling...
it was a pledge in the labour manifesto..
yet this nitwit has cancelled it...
LABOUR.

Stunned. Should have been built 20 years ago.

I agree and anyone ever stuck in the current bottle neck will surely agree!

A little over two hours from London to the Bridge and almost the same from there to Malpas

Must surely have an effect on business and tourism; both of which are vital to the Welsh economy?

Careful handling of the potential environmental issues (look at what they did with Cardiff Bay) could have seen it go ahead

first proposed in 1991.
are they real.

I wish there was a campaign for a 2nd assembly referendum

Should have got on with it as soon as they finished the second Severn crossing. Unfortunately a labour government in Westminster then devolution put paid to that. Labour cancelled the Channel tunnel FFS and if Thatcher had come along that may never have been built. Millions of people off the road and out of planes.

I use the M4 frequently and that stretch really does need doing and has done since the adjoining bits of the M4 were increased from 2 to 3 lanes in the early 80s due to congestion. its insane to think otherwise...no matter what party is in charge.

Stunned. Should have been built 20 years ago.

I agree and anyone ever stuck in the current bottle neck will surely agree!

A little over two hours from London to the Bridge and almost the same from there to Malpas

Must surely have an effect on business and tourism; both of which are vital to the Welsh economy?

Careful handling of the potential environmental issues (look at what they did with Cardiff Bay) could have seen it go ahead

how much worse can the enviromental issues be than the carbon footprint from the congestion at those tunnels...im both shocked and gutted not for myself as realistically my driving will be much less by the time it would be built anyway..but for our country

Hmmmm,some of us remember when the M25 was touted as the answer to London's traffic congestion. Not guaranteed to fix the problem and to date no businesses had signed to help with the cost.That would be left to the WAG to levy the cost on us with their new tax raising powers.Too many glib comments.

You think the M25 was a waste, that's your argument??

I dread to think of London without the M25.

Look at it logically the arguement against? Wildlife ect would be a destroyed with the bay what happened wildlife moved 1mile away and is thriving ! Gwent levels same will happen nature as habit of adapting.... alternative public transport what planet are people on to think public transport can transport all the goods all the people from south east Wales that use m4 Its cloud cookoo land to think you can use public transport to cut congestion! Wag is a useless waste of money who undoubtedly will now give themselves a pat on back for wasting £44m of our money knowing they would not build rd before they even started public inquiry..

Hmmmm,some of us remember when the M25 was touted as the answer to London's traffic congestion. Not guaranteed to fix the problem and to date no businesses had signed to help with the cost.That would be left to the WAG to levy the cost on us with their new tax raising powers.Too many glib comments.

You think the M25 was a waste, that's your argument??

I dread to think of London without the M25.

Having used that very road this Monday morning, I tend to agree. It was slow (8am) but still a lot better than the stationery traffic on the roads I could see overhead

Glib comments are ones like snaggy's, who cannot see the bigger picture for Wales as a whole. Newport is an environmental and topographical bottle neck that needs to be remedied

first proposed in 1991.
are they real.

I wish there was a campaign for a 2nd assembly referendum

Should have got on with it as soon as they finished the second Severn crossing. Unfortunately a labour government in Westminster then devolution put paid to that. Labour cancelled the Channel tunnel FFS and if Thatcher had come along that may never have been built. Millions of people off the road and out of planes.

I use the M4 frequently and that stretch really does need doing and has done since the adjoining bits of the M4 were increased from 2 to 3 lanes in the early 80s due to congestion. its insane to think otherwise...no matter what party is in charge.

I did it daily for three years, the commute was an absolute nightmare, and I ended up going earlier and earlier, the number of crashes and road rage on the stretch from Castleton to the Bridge was unbelievable and it's getting worse year on year.

It's all about perspective, I don't mind as much now as only pop over once a week or so and I can miss the traffic, but those with a regular commute will be going mental at the news, it should be done it's an absolute nightmare for them.

Hmmmm,some of us remember when the M25 was touted as the answer to London's traffic congestion. Not guaranteed to fix the problem and to date no businesses had signed to help with the cost.That would be left to the WAG to levy the cost on us with their new tax raising powers.Too many glib comments.

You think the M25 was a waste, that's your argument??

I dread to think of London without the M25.

Having used that very road this Monday morning, I tend to agree. It was slow (8am) but still a lot better than the stationery traffic on the roads I could see overhead

Glib comments are ones like snaggy's, who cannot see the bigger picture for Wales as a whole. Newport is an environmental and topographical bottle neck that needs to be remedied

I've used m25 for years and truefully have never been stuck in a jam of any note yes slow stop start but never stopped for a length of time? (Just lucky) Cannot say same for Bryn glass tunnel though... and this relief rd is part of a circular rd that runs from junction 33 of m4 around bay river way and wentloog to tredegar park that was dropped many moons ago..

Look at it logically the arguement against? Wildlife ect would be a destroyed with the bay what happened wildlife moved 1mile away and is thriving ! Gwent levels same will happen nature as habit of adapting.... alternative public transport what planet are people on to think public transport can transport all the goods all the people from south east Wales that use m4 Its cloud cookoo land to think you can use public transport to cut congestion! Wag is a useless waste of money who undoubtedly will now give themselves a pat on back for wasting £44m of our money knowing they would not build rd before they even started public inquiry..

I noted there was a candidate in the Newport West by election who stood on the ticket of Abolish the Welsh Assembly ". He didn't do very well but a pretty crowded Westminster By election probably wasn't the time or place. I know from my in laws in mid wales they'd be right behind that. So are the people pissed off enough to actually vote for them or are those pissed off, too apathetic to vote anyway. Just under 2 years to the next election.

Hmmmm,some of us remember when the M25 was touted as the answer to London's traffic congestion. Not guaranteed to fix the problem and to date no businesses had signed to help with the cost.That would be left to the WAG to levy the cost on us with their new tax raising powers.Too many glib comments.

You think the M25 was a waste, that's your argument??

I dread to think of London without the M25.

Having used that very road this Monday morning, I tend to agree. It was slow (8am) but still a lot better than the stationery traffic on the roads I could see overhead

Glib comments are ones like snaggy's, who cannot see the bigger picture for Wales as a whole. Newport is an environmental and topographical bottle neck that needs to be remedied

I agree something needs to be done,but not at the environmental cost or without those that will benefit most contributing something.And WP I don't think the M25 was a waste at all.it makes a great car-park.How's that for a glib comment.

Hmmmm,some of us remember when the M25 was touted as the answer to London's traffic congestion. Not guaranteed to fix the problem and to date no businesses had signed to help with the cost.That would be left to the WAG to levy the cost on us with their new tax raising powers.Too many glib comments.

You think the M25 was a waste, that's your argument??

I dread to think of London without the M25.

Having used that very road this Monday morning, I tend to agree. It was slow (8am) but still a lot better than the stationery traffic on the roads I could see overhead

Glib comments are ones like snaggy's, who cannot see the bigger picture for Wales as a whole. Newport is an environmental and topographical bottle neck that needs to be remedied

I agree something needs to be done,but not at the environmental cost or without those that will benefit most contributing something.And WP I don't think the M25 was a waste at all.it makes a great car-park.How's that for a glib comment.

What's the environmental cost? Same as they said about Cardiff bay Except that the disaster they predicted didn't happen in fact it's well documented that wildlife as thrived a mile away since it was built? Wildlife got great habit of adapting if care is taken to minimise effects.. pollution wise whats worse thousands of cars stuck in traffic jams every day or thousands of cars moving it's a simple choice but reality! What is not an option is doing nothing Which environmentalists prefer

Not glib, just sad. But not unexpected.

Offering nothing. Now known as a ‘doing a Drakeford’.

Hmmmm,some of us remember when the M25 was touted as the answer to London's traffic congestion. Not guaranteed to fix the problem and to date no businesses had signed to help with the cost.That would be left to the WAG to levy the cost on us with their new tax raising powers.Too many glib comments.

You think the M25 was a waste, that's your argument??

I dread to think of London without the M25.

Having used that very road this Monday morning, I tend to agree. It was slow (8am) but still a lot better than the stationery traffic on the roads I could see overhead

Glib comments are ones like snaggy's, who cannot see the bigger picture for Wales as a whole. Newport is an environmental and topographical bottle neck that needs to be remedied

I agree something needs to be done,but not at the environmental cost or without those that will benefit most contributing something.And WP I don't think the M25 was a waste at all.it makes a great car-park.How's that for a glib comment.

What's the environmental cost? Same as they said about Cardiff bay Except that the disaster they predicted didn't happen in fact it's well documented that wildlife as thrived a mile away since it was built? Wildlife got great habit of adapting if care is taken to minimise effects.. pollution wise whats worse thousands of cars stuck in traffic jams every day or thousands of cars moving it's a simple choice but reality! What is not an option is doing nothing Which environmentalists prefer

Its a well documented fact that the more roads you build the more cars you get, that's why I used the M25 example.It solved nothing.The other thing nobody seems to have mentioned is we would, as a nation, have to borrow heavily to fund this project.Who would pay?

Hmmmm,some of us remember when the M25 was touted as the answer to London's traffic congestion. Not guaranteed to fix the problem and to date no businesses had signed to help with the cost.That would be left to the WAG to levy the cost on us with their new tax raising powers.Too many glib comments.

You think the M25 was a waste, that's your argument??

I dread to think of London without the M25.

Having used that very road this Monday morning, I tend to agree. It was slow (8am) but still a lot better than the stationery traffic on the roads I could see overhead

Glib comments are ones like snaggy's, who cannot see the bigger picture for Wales as a whole. Newport is an environmental and topographical bottle neck that needs to be remedied

I agree something needs to be done,but not at the environmental cost or without those that will benefit most contributing something.And WP I don't think the M25 was a waste at all.it makes a great car-park.How's that for a glib comment.

What's the environmental cost? Same as they said about Cardiff bay Except that the disaster they predicted didn't happen in fact it's well documented that wildlife as thrived a mile away since it was built? Wildlife got great habit of adapting if care is taken to minimise effects.. pollution wise whats worse thousands of cars stuck in traffic jams every day or thousands of cars moving it's a simple choice but reality! What is not an option is doing nothing Which environmentalists prefer

Its a well documented fact that the more roads you build the more cars you get, that's why I used the M25 example.It solved nothing.The other thing nobody seems to have mentioned is we would, as a nation, have to borrow heavily to fund this project.Who would pay?

The population of London has increased by nearly 3million since the M25 was built that's why there's more cars.

Hmmmm,some of us remember when the M25 was touted as the answer to London's traffic congestion. Not guaranteed to fix the problem and to date no businesses had signed to help with the cost.That would be left to the WAG to levy the cost on us with their new tax raising powers.Too many glib comments.

You think the M25 was a waste, that's your argument??

I dread to think of London without the M25.

Having used that very road this Monday morning, I tend to agree. It was slow (8am) but still a lot better than the stationery traffic on the roads I could see overhead

Glib comments are ones like snaggy's, who cannot see the bigger picture for Wales as a whole. Newport is an environmental and topographical bottle neck that needs to be remedied

I agree something needs to be done,but not at the environmental cost or without those that will benefit most contributing something.And WP I don't think the M25 was a waste at all.it makes a great car-park.How's that for a glib comment.

What's the environmental cost? Same as they said about Cardiff bay Except that the disaster they predicted didn't happen in fact it's well documented that wildlife as thrived a mile away since it was built? Wildlife got great habit of adapting if care is taken to minimise effects.. pollution wise whats worse thousands of cars stuck in traffic jams every day or thousands of cars moving it's a simple choice but reality! What is not an option is doing nothing Which environmentalists prefer

Its a well documented fact that the more roads you build the more cars you get, that's why I used the M25 example.It solved nothing.The other thing nobody seems to have mentioned is we would, as a nation, have to borrow heavily to fund this project.Who would pay?

So you think that the traffic on the M25 wouldn't exist if the motorway hadn't been built. Environmental clap trap. Perhaps they're busy cause they're needed. Without them people would still need to do their journeys on clogged up minor roads and central London with catastrophic environmental consequences.

We do need to slow London down but while its the attraction it is we need to build more homes and build more infrastructure. Another 75 tall blocks in planning or starting construction with completions in the next few years.

Leaving the EU would take some of the steam out of that and would be a sensible green policy. But it doesn't fit with their agenda.

Hmmmm,some of us remember when the M25 was touted as the answer to London's traffic congestion. Not guaranteed to fix the problem and to date no businesses had signed to help with the cost.That would be left to the WAG to levy the cost on us with their new tax raising powers.Too many glib comments.

You think the M25 was a waste, that's your argument??

I dread to think of London without the M25.

Having used that very road this Monday morning, I tend to agree. It was slow (8am) but still a lot better than the stationery traffic on the roads I could see overhead

Glib comments are ones like snaggy's, who cannot see the bigger picture for Wales as a whole. Newport is an environmental and topographical bottle neck that needs to be remedied

I agree something needs to be done,but not at the environmental cost or without those that will benefit most contributing something.And WP I don't think the M25 was a waste at all.it makes a great car-park.How's that for a glib comment.

What's the environmental cost? Same as they said about Cardiff bay Except that the disaster they predicted didn't happen in fact it's well documented that wildlife as thrived a mile away since it was built? Wildlife got great habit of adapting if care is taken to minimise effects.. pollution wise whats worse thousands of cars stuck in traffic jams every day or thousands of cars moving it's a simple choice but reality! What is not an option is doing nothing Which environmentalists prefer

Its a well documented fact that the more roads you build the more cars you get, that's why I used the M25 example.It solved nothing.The other thing nobody seems to have mentioned is we would, as a nation, have to borrow heavily to fund this project.Who would pay?

Yes agree new rds do get clogged up but like said environmentalists prefer to do nothing to eliviate pollution! You tell me what is the answer to m4 Newport congestion? Public transport mmmm let's say there's 10k cars on m4 if 90% go beyond Newport how do we use public transport to take any of those cars off m4 need to have public transport from Cardiff the valleys Swansea and Bristol the Midlands London ect ect running 25hrs a day every 30mins plus who will pay for busses trains to fo this? As you see it's not an option and doing nothing is not option! Love to find someone with an idea that will work and doesnt cost a bomb....

How is it possible that one person, elected with 11,000 votes can alone make such a critical decision impacting so many?

short sighted, another labour manifesto pledge ignored ,do any parties tell the truth ?