Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:35 pm
Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:36 pm
Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:44 pm
Sven wrote:A very interesting read that maybe sheds some light on the difficulties of getting players in during the notoriously difficult January Transfer window
Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:50 pm
Sven wrote:A very interesting read that maybe sheds some light on the difficulties of getting players in during the notoriously difficult January Transfer window
Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:00 pm
Sven wrote:A very interesting read that maybe sheds some light on the difficulties of getting players in during the notoriously difficult January Transfer window
Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:07 pm
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Sven wrote:A very interesting read that maybe sheds some light on the difficulties of getting players in during the notoriously difficult January Transfer window
Hmm. That is one way of looking at it. Another way is maybe we lack a bit of football competence? I think it’s obvious for most that we lack quality in a few departments. Why leave that to January? The wheeling and dealing should have started the moment summer window closed. That way it would not go to “the wire”, and we would not loose out on almost every target we go for. And another thing. Missing out on every target should tell the club something about it’s attraction.
Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:21 pm
SirJimmySchoular wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Sven wrote:A very interesting read that maybe sheds some light on the difficulties of getting players in during the notoriously difficult January Transfer window
Hmm. That is one way of looking at it. Another way is maybe we lack a bit of football competence? I think it’s obvious for most that we lack quality in a few departments. Why leave that to January? The wheeling and dealing should have started the moment summer window closed. That way it would not go to “the wire”, and we would not loose out on almost every target we go for. And another thing. Missing out on every target should tell the club something about it’s attraction.
Possibly, but none of that matters at this point. You're wasting your time revisiting mistakes except to learn from them for the future. We are where we are and we've got what we've got, so the only thing to do is use real and existing resources to achieve the objective. Let's not forget that we have some very good players, the best manager in Britain in terms of getting the best out of scant rescources, a very committed fan base and a new positive rhythm in the team.
Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:28 pm
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Sven wrote:A very interesting read that maybe sheds some light on the difficulties of getting players in during the notoriously difficult January Transfer window
Hmm. That is one way of looking at it. Another way is maybe we lack a bit of football competence? I think it’s obvious for most that we lack quality in a few departments. Why leave that to January? The wheeling and dealing should have started the moment summer window closed. That way it would not go to “the wire”, and we would not loose out on almost every target we go for. And another thing. Missing out on every target should tell the club something about it’s attraction.
Possibly, but none of that matters at this point. You're wasting your time revisiting mistakes except to learn from them for the future. We are where we are and we've got what we've got, so the only thing to do is use real and existing resources to achieve the objective. Let's not forget that we have some very good players, the best manager in Britain in terms of getting the best out of scant rescources, a very committed fan base and a new positive rhythm in the team.
Offcorse IT matters at this point. I’m not wasting my time, I’ve got time to spare. But i agree. We need to learn from our mistakes. Not the first time this have happened, is it? But maybe we can blame Warnock come may. But I agree. To good games on a bounce now, with tactics from this century.
Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:28 pm
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Sven wrote:A very interesting read that maybe sheds some light on the difficulties of getting players in during the notoriously difficult January Transfer window
Hmm. That is one way of looking at it. Another way is maybe we lack a bit of football competence? I think it’s obvious for most that we lack quality in a few departments. Why leave that to January? The wheeling and dealing should have started the moment summer window closed. That way it would not go to “the wire”, and we would not loose out on almost every target we go for. And another thing. Missing out on every target should tell the club something about it’s attraction.
Possibly, but none of that matters at this point. You're wasting your time revisiting mistakes except to learn from them for the future. We are where we are and we've got what we've got, so the only thing to do is use real and existing resources to achieve the objective. Let's not forget that we have some very good players, the best manager in Britain in terms of getting the best out of scant rescources, a very committed fan base and a new positive rhythm in the team.
Offcorse IT matters at this point. I’m not wasting my time, I’ve got time to spare. But i agree. We need to learn from our mistakes. Not the first time this have happened, is it? But maybe we can blame Warnock come may. But I agree. To good games on a bounce now, with tactics from this century.
Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:39 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Sven wrote:A very interesting read that maybe sheds some light on the difficulties of getting players in during the notoriously difficult January Transfer window
If true about tan aswell it shows he still as enthusiasm for the club? But going forward the future looks brighter with mammet and Ken at helm
Whatever league we end up in.
Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:42 pm
smakerzthebluebird wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Sven wrote:A very interesting read that maybe sheds some light on the difficulties of getting players in during the notoriously difficult January Transfer window
Hmm. That is one way of looking at it. Another way is maybe we lack a bit of football competence? I think it’s obvious for most that we lack quality in a few departments. Why leave that to January? The wheeling and dealing should have started the moment summer window closed. That way it would not go to “the wire”, and we would not loose out on almost every target we go for. And another thing. Missing out on every target should tell the club something about it’s attraction.
Possibly, but none of that matters at this point. You're wasting your time revisiting mistakes except to learn from them for the future. We are where we are and we've got what we've got, so the only thing to do is use real and existing resources to achieve the objective. Let's not forget that we have some very good players, the best manager in Britain in terms of getting the best out of scant rescources, a very committed fan base and a new positive rhythm in the team.
Offcorse IT matters at this point. I’m not wasting my time, I’ve got time to spare. But i agree. We need to learn from our mistakes. Not the first time this have happened, is it? But maybe we can blame Warnock come may. But I agree. To good games on a bounce now, with tactics from this century.
I’m certain if you go back to August Warnock said he wanted the teams
THat got promoted to have a chance in his league, he was happy with summer business whether that’s a mistake we will see come May but I for one am enjoying this season (with the exception of the sala incident of course)
Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:43 pm
Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:44 pm
Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Sven wrote:A very interesting read that maybe sheds some light on the difficulties of getting players in during the notoriously difficult January Transfer window
Hmm. That is one way of looking at it. Another way is maybe we lack a bit of football competence? I think it’s obvious for most that we lack quality in a few departments. Why leave that to January? The wheeling and dealing should have started the moment summer window closed. That way it would not go to “the wire”, and we would not loose out on almost every target we go for. And another thing. Missing out on every target should tell the club something about it’s attraction.
Possibly, but none of that matters at this point. You're wasting your time revisiting mistakes except to learn from them for the future. We are where we are and we've got what we've got, so the only thing to do is use real and existing resources to achieve the objective. Let's not forget that we have some very good players, the best manager in Britain in terms of getting the best out of scant rescources, a very committed fan base and a new positive rhythm in the team.
Offcorse IT matters at this point. I’m not wasting my time, I’ve got time to spare. But i agree. We need to learn from our mistakes. Not the first time this have happened, is it? But maybe we can blame Warnock come may. But I agree. To good games on a bounce now, with tactics from this century.
So where have the club failed, Tameze decided to make his choice at the end of the season and seems keen if were in the PL still. Toure was offered Europa League so decided to go that way and was not impressed with our performance against Newcastle. Brugge wouldn’t let Moraes leave. In my eyes the club done everything they possibly could to get these deals done. Even to the point where they were willing to go overboard with money. Let’s see where we are at end of the season. Our last two performance should make us optimistic rather than pessimistic. So let’s be positive.
Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:52 pm
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Sven wrote:A very interesting read that maybe sheds some light on the difficulties of getting players in during the notoriously difficult January Transfer window
Hmm. That is one way of looking at it. Another way is maybe we lack a bit of football competence? I think it’s obvious for most that we lack quality in a few departments. Why leave that to January? The wheeling and dealing should have started the moment summer window closed. That way it would not go to “the wire”, and we would not loose out on almost every target we go for. And another thing. Missing out on every target should tell the club something about it’s attraction.
Possibly, but none of that matters at this point. You're wasting your time revisiting mistakes except to learn from them for the future. We are where we are and we've got what we've got, so the only thing to do is use real and existing resources to achieve the objective. Let's not forget that we have some very good players, the best manager in Britain in terms of getting the best out of scant rescources, a very committed fan base and a new positive rhythm in the team.
Offcorse IT matters at this point. I’m not wasting my time, I’ve got time to spare. But i agree. We need to learn from our mistakes. Not the first time this have happened, is it? But maybe we can blame Warnock come may. But I agree. To good games on a bounce now, with tactics from this century.
So where have the club failed, Tameze decided to make his choice at the end of the season and seems keen if were in the PL still. Toure was offered Europa League so decided to go that way and was not impressed with our performance against Newcastle. Brugge wouldn’t let Moraes leave. In my eyes the club done everything they possibly could to get these deals done. Even to the point where they were willing to go overboard with money. Let’s see where we are at end of the season. Our last two performance should make us optimistic rather than pessimistic. So let’s be positive.
The club pulled of one signing of what looked quality. One signing. When everyone else chose, did not come. Had other business.. we failed, right?
Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:56 pm
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Sven wrote:A very interesting read that maybe sheds some light on the difficulties of getting players in during the notoriously difficult January Transfer window
Hmm. That is one way of looking at it. Another way is maybe we lack a bit of football competence? I think it’s obvious for most that we lack quality in a few departments. Why leave that to January? The wheeling and dealing should have started the moment summer window closed. That way it would not go to “the wire”, and we would not loose out on almost every target we go for. And another thing. Missing out on every target should tell the club something about it’s attraction.
Possibly, but none of that matters at this point. You're wasting your time revisiting mistakes except to learn from them for the future. We are where we are and we've got what we've got, so the only thing to do is use real and existing resources to achieve the objective. Let's not forget that we have some very good players, the best manager in Britain in terms of getting the best out of scant rescources, a very committed fan base and a new positive rhythm in the team.
Offcorse IT matters at this point. I’m not wasting my time, I’ve got time to spare. But i agree. We need to learn from our mistakes. Not the first time this have happened, is it? But maybe we can blame Warnock come may. But I agree. To good games on a bounce now, with tactics from this century.
So where have the club failed, Tameze decided to make his choice at the end of the season and seems keen if were in the PL still. Toure was offered Europa League so decided to go that way and was not impressed with our performance against Newcastle. Brugge wouldn’t let Moraes leave. In my eyes the club done everything they possibly could to get these deals done. Even to the point where they were willing to go overboard with money. Let’s see where we are at end of the season. Our last two performance should make us optimistic rather than pessimistic. So let’s be positive.
The club pulled of one signing of what looked quality. One signing. When everyone else chose, did not come. Had other business.. we failed, right?
Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:10 pm
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:smakerzthebluebird wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Sven wrote:A very interesting read that maybe sheds some light on the difficulties of getting players in during the notoriously difficult January Transfer window
Hmm. That is one way of looking at it. Another way is maybe we lack a bit of football competence? I think it’s obvious for most that we lack quality in a few departments. Why leave that to January? The wheeling and dealing should have started the moment summer window closed. That way it would not go to “the wire”, and we would not loose out on almost every target we go for. And another thing. Missing out on every target should tell the club something about it’s attraction.
Possibly, but none of that matters at this point. You're wasting your time revisiting mistakes except to learn from them for the future. We are where we are and we've got what we've got, so the only thing to do is use real and existing resources to achieve the objective. Let's not forget that we have some very good players, the best manager in Britain in terms of getting the best out of scant rescources, a very committed fan base and a new positive rhythm in the team.
Offcorse IT matters at this point. I’m not wasting my time, I’ve got time to spare. But i agree. We need to learn from our mistakes. Not the first time this have happened, is it? But maybe we can blame Warnock come may. But I agree. To good games on a bounce now, with tactics from this century.
I’m certain if you go back to August Warnock said he wanted the teams
THat got promoted to have a chance in his league, he was happy with summer business whether that’s a mistake we will see come May but I for one am enjoying this season (with the exception of the sala incident of course)
Hmm I’m certain if you go back, and even further back than Cardiff in Warnock’s managerial career you would find his love for cart horses rather than footballers pretty transparent. Being happy with the squad? Yes, he might be pragmatic in his statements. But playing a right back as striker, a center half as Right back. Central midfield as winger dosent exactly communicate him being “happy” with any squad, does it?
Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:28 pm
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Sven wrote:A very interesting read that maybe sheds some light on the difficulties of getting players in during the notoriously difficult January Transfer window
Hmm. That is one way of looking at it. Another way is maybe we lack a bit of football competence? I think it’s obvious for most that we lack quality in a few departments. Why leave that to January? The wheeling and dealing should have started the moment summer window closed. That way it would not go to “the wire”, and we would not loose out on almost every target we go for. And another thing. Missing out on every target should tell the club something about it’s attraction.
Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:23 pm
Sneggyblubird wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Sven wrote:A very interesting read that maybe sheds some light on the difficulties of getting players in during the notoriously difficult January Transfer window
Hmm. That is one way of looking at it. Another way is maybe we lack a bit of football competence? I think it’s obvious for most that we lack quality in a few departments. Why leave that to January? The wheeling and dealing should have started the moment summer window closed. That way it would not go to “the wire”, and we would not loose out on almost every target we go for. And another thing. Missing out on every target should tell the club something about it’s attraction.
And why would you choose to look at it your way.Yes we could have done like Fulham which is the model you seem to be talking about but spunkin your money all at once gets you where?It is right to see who could make the step up and then spend accordingly if you have to.The bit about Vincent Tan will be an eye opener and some of the anti-Tan multi's will have to rethink their strategy.
Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:26 pm
Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:38 pm
bluebird1972 wrote:I think Sala would have been the catalyst to get the other deals done especially with the French targets.
Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:58 pm
Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:59 pm
Sven wrote:bluebird1972 wrote:I think Sala would have been the catalyst to get the other deals done especially with the French targets.
Sadly, we'll never know; and the situation has given the likes of Scandinavianbluebird (and others) the opportunity to go down the negative 'my glass is half empty' route again...
Seems to me that the whole City backroom team have worked their socks off during the January Window (and probably in the build up, too) but we don't get to see that, so it leaves it open for these people too do their worst
The whispers, rumours and downright mischievous gossip of recent days/weeks has likely resulted in Mehmet Dalman's comments and defence of his colleagues...
And still people ask why the club are so intent on keeping things 'in house'?![]()
Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:34 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Sven wrote:A very interesting read that maybe sheds some light on the difficulties of getting players in during the notoriously difficult January Transfer window
Hmm. That is one way of looking at it. Another way is maybe we lack a bit of football competence? I think it’s obvious for most that we lack quality in a few departments. Why leave that to January? The wheeling and dealing should have started the moment summer window closed. That way it would not go to “the wire”, and we would not loose out on almost every target we go for. And another thing. Missing out on every target should tell the club something about it’s attraction.
Possibly, but none of that matters at this point. You're wasting your time revisiting mistakes except to learn from them for the future. We are where we are and we've got what we've got, so the only thing to do is use real and existing resources to achieve the objective. Let's not forget that we have some very good players, the best manager in Britain in terms of getting the best out of scant rescources, a very committed fan base and a new positive rhythm in the team.
Offcorse IT matters at this point. I’m not wasting my time, I’ve got time to spare. But i agree. We need to learn from our mistakes. Not the first time this have happened, is it? But maybe we can blame Warnock come may. But I agree. To good games on a bounce now, with tactics from this century.
So where have the club failed, Tameze decided to make his choice at the end of the season and seems keen if were in the PL still. Toure was offered Europa League so decided to go that way and was not impressed with our performance against Newcastle. Brugge wouldn’t let Moraes leave. In my eyes the club done everything they possibly could to get these deals done. Even to the point where they were willing to go overboard with money. Let’s see where we are at end of the season. Our last two performance should make us optimistic rather than pessimistic. So let’s be positive.
The club pulled of one signing of what looked quality. One signing. When everyone else chose, did not come. Had other business.. we failed, right?
Unfortunately, in the 50 odd years I have watched us, it has never been easy persuading top players to come here. It has been a regular theme throughout all this time, decent players linked with us but never quite coming off. Maybe if we avoid relegation, we may convince a few to join us if it looks as if we are not just a one season flash in the pan.
until Vincent Tan came,it was still in the main,the same,we have paid a heavy price since the 80's imo.as the saying goes"you reap what you sow" and the hooligan element sowed some shit back then,be honest,would you,if you had the money back then,have invested? I very much doubt it
Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:49 pm
Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:51 pm
bluesince62 wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Sven wrote:A very interesting read that maybe sheds some light on the difficulties of getting players in during the notoriously difficult January Transfer window
Hmm. That is one way of looking at it. Another way is maybe we lack a bit of football competence? I think it’s obvious for most that we lack quality in a few departments. Why leave that to January? The wheeling and dealing should have started the moment summer window closed. That way it would not go to “the wire”, and we would not loose out on almost every target we go for. And another thing. Missing out on every target should tell the club something about it’s attraction.
Possibly, but none of that matters at this point. You're wasting your time revisiting mistakes except to learn from them for the future. We are where we are and we've got what we've got, so the only thing to do is use real and existing resources to achieve the objective. Let's not forget that we have some very good players, the best manager in Britain in terms of getting the best out of scant rescources, a very committed fan base and a new positive rhythm in the team.
Offcorse IT matters at this point. I’m not wasting my time, I’ve got time to spare. But i agree. We need to learn from our mistakes. Not the first time this have happened, is it? But maybe we can blame Warnock come may. But I agree. To good games on a bounce now, with tactics from this century.
So where have the club failed, Tameze decided to make his choice at the end of the season and seems keen if were in the PL still. Toure was offered Europa League so decided to go that way and was not impressed with our performance against Newcastle. Brugge wouldn’t let Moraes leave. In my eyes the club done everything they possibly could to get these deals done. Even to the point where they were willing to go overboard with money. Let’s see where we are at end of the season. Our last two performance should make us optimistic rather than pessimistic. So let’s be positive.
The club pulled of one signing of what looked quality. One signing. When everyone else chose, did not come. Had other business.. we failed, right?
Unfortunately, in the 50 odd years I have watched us, it has never been easy persuading top players to come here. It has been a regular theme throughout all this time, decent players linked with us but never quite coming off. Maybe if we avoid relegation, we may convince a few to join us if it looks as if we are not just a one season flash in the pan.
Same period of time supporting, but in my opinion,nobody back in the dark days of hooliganism,would touch us with the proverbial barge pole,some of our very own supporters were to blame,some even happier to wallow in the reputation we had back thenuntil Vincent Tan came,it was still in the main,the same,we have paid a heavy price since the 80's imo.as the saying goes"you reap what you sow" and the hooligan element sowed some shit back then,be honest,would you,if you had the money back then,have invested? I very much doubt it
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Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:03 pm
Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:38 pm
Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:47 pm
Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:09 am
Llan_Blue wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:smakerzthebluebird wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:Scandinavianbluebird wrote:Sven wrote:A very interesting read that maybe sheds some light on the difficulties of getting players in during the notoriously difficult January Transfer window
Hmm. That is one way of looking at it. Another way is maybe we lack a bit of football competence? I think it’s obvious for most that we lack quality in a few departments. Why leave that to January? The wheeling and dealing should have started the moment summer window closed. That way it would not go to “the wire”, and we would not loose out on almost every target we go for. And another thing. Missing out on every target should tell the club something about it’s attraction.
Possibly, but none of that matters at this point. You're wasting your time revisiting mistakes except to learn from them for the future. We are where we are and we've got what we've got, so the only thing to do is use real and existing resources to achieve the objective. Let's not forget that we have some very good players, the best manager in Britain in terms of getting the best out of scant rescources, a very committed fan base and a new positive rhythm in the team.
Offcorse IT matters at this point. I’m not wasting my time, I’ve got time to spare. But i agree. We need to learn from our mistakes. Not the first time this have happened, is it? But maybe we can blame Warnock come may. But I agree. To good games on a bounce now, with tactics from this century.
I’m certain if you go back to August Warnock said he wanted the teams
THat got promoted to have a chance in his league, he was happy with summer business whether that’s a mistake we will see come May but I for one am enjoying this season (with the exception of the sala incident of course)
Hmm I’m certain if you go back, and even further back than Cardiff in Warnock’s managerial career you would find his love for cart horses rather than footballers pretty transparent. Being happy with the squad? Yes, he might be pragmatic in his statements. But playing a right back as striker, a center half as Right back. Central midfield as winger dosent exactly communicate him being “happy” with any squad, does it?
1. Patterson is not a right back. He’s played in that position but he isn’t a right back.
2. Manga was playing right back all last season so Warnock was obviously happy to stick with it.
3. Teams that don’t invest heavily after getting promotion are usually the ones that do better in this division.
Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:50 pm
Sven wrote:bluebird1972 wrote:I think Sala would have been the catalyst to get the other deals done especially with the French targets.
Sadly, we'll never know; and the situation has given the likes of Scandinavianbluebird (and others) the opportunity to go down the negative 'my glass is half empty' route again...
Seems to me that the whole City backroom team have worked their socks off during the January Window (and probably in the build up, too) but we don't get to see that, so it leaves it open for these people too do their worst
The whispers, rumours and downright mischievous gossip of recent days/weeks has likely resulted in Mehmet Dalman's comments and defence of his colleagues...
And still people ask why the club are so intent on keeping things 'in house'?![]()