Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:57 am
Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:03 am
Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:06 am
Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:12 am
Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:15 am
BlueMoon1974 wrote:You can see a body in the video released in the back area of the plane . I doubt pilot would be in back of plane. It's got to be Sala, even the statements released state the obvious 'families worst fears confirmed '. He's gone, fu.... heartbreaking! !!
Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:32 am
Port Talbot Blue wrote:Are the recovery experts saying that there is only one body in the wreckage or only one body visible. They keep stating that they are attempting to recover THE body then will attempt to bring the plane to the surface. Surely this indicates that either Emiliano or David are unnacountted for?
Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:35 am
dogfound wrote:BlueMoon1974 wrote:You can see a body in the video released in the back area of the plane . I doubt pilot would be in back of plane. It's got to be Sala, even the statements released state the obvious 'families worst fears confirmed '. He's gone, fu.... heartbreaking! !!
yes but thats one body not two which the thread is about.
Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:44 am
Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:06 pm
T1JMO wrote:Port Talbot Blue wrote:Are the recovery experts saying that there is only one body in the wreckage or only one body visible. They keep stating that they are attempting to recover THE body then will attempt to bring the plane to the surface. Surely this indicates that either Emiliano or David are unnacountted for?
They have said there is "one body visible" doesn't mean both aren't in the plane... they just sent a camera down up until now.
Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:00 pm
lockey1927 wrote:dogfound wrote:BlueMoon1974 wrote:You can see a body in the video released in the back area of the plane . I doubt pilot would be in back of plane. It's got to be Sala, even the statements released state the obvious 'families worst fears confirmed '. He's gone, fu.... heartbreaking! !!
yes but thats one body not two which the thread is about.
Where is this video
Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:43 pm
BlueMoon1974 wrote:lockey1927 wrote:dogfound wrote:BlueMoon1974 wrote:You can see a body in the video released in the back area of the plane . I doubt pilot would be in back of plane. It's got to be Sala, even the statements released state the obvious 'families worst fears confirmed '. He's gone, fu.... heartbreaking! !!
yes but thats one body not two which the thread is about.
Where is this video
Just search Sale and bbc and sky news show video.
Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:44 pm
BlueMoon1974 wrote:lockey1927 wrote:dogfound wrote:BlueMoon1974 wrote:You can see a body in the video released in the back area of the plane . I doubt pilot would be in back of plane. It's got to be Sala, even the statements released state the obvious 'families worst fears confirmed '. He's gone, fu.... heartbreaking! !!
yes but thats one body not two which the thread is about.
Where is this video
Just search Sale and bbc and sky news show video.
Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:50 pm
Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:16 pm
SirJimmySchoular wrote:Well, what they've said is that they can SEE one body , but they're only looking at video in dark conditions taken by an ROV, so that's not to say that there's not another one in there. If those cushions which they found are actually from the aeroplane then that suggests that the fusillage is fractured somewhere and that body(s) could also have come out.
They're not diving for the body apparently but trying to extracate it with an ROV with hooks and chains, which seems ambitious to be frank for reasons which I won't go into here but which should be obvious. Thus, the removal of the first body won't necessarily reveal the second even if it's there.
Presumably there are practical reasons why they're not using divers, which would be the best chance of finding out what else might be in the wreckage. I'd have thought that the best chance of preserving any remains intact would be to attach oxygen balloons to the aeroplane, inflate them and try to bring it up slowly enough in tidal gaps to keep it in one bit, but again I'm sure there are practical reasons as to why they're doing something else . I do happen to know that the tidal gaps in those waters are very short at certain times of the year, so maybe it's that.
Actually it's surprising that they've found the wreckage and even more surprising that they've been able to see a body, but I doubt whether they'll ever get a complete answer from it. I hope they'll get enough of the body out to do a Dna identification, but that'd still leave the fate of whichever the other one was hanging. In some ways the discovery of the plane makes the suffering of at least one family worse, but at least it should enable the air accident inquiry to reach some conclusions.
Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:49 pm
Sven wrote:BlueMoon1974 wrote:lockey1927 wrote:dogfound wrote:BlueMoon1974 wrote:You can see a body in the video released in the back area of the plane . I doubt pilot would be in back of plane. It's got to be Sala, even the statements released state the obvious 'families worst fears confirmed '. He's gone, fu.... heartbreaking! !!
yes but thats one body not two which the thread is about.
Where is this video
Just search Sale and bbc and sky news show video.
Did you mean Sala and BBC and Sky News?![]()
And to save you the effort of supplying the link you referred to, here it is...and there is no 'body' displayed
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47118340
Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:01 pm
BlueMoon1974 wrote:lockey1927 wrote:dogfound wrote:BlueMoon1974 wrote:You can see a body in the video released in the back area of the plane . I doubt pilot would be in back of plane. It's got to be Sala, even the statements released state the obvious 'families worst fears confirmed '. He's gone, fu.... heartbreaking! !!
yes but thats one body not two which the thread is about.
Where is this video
Just search Sale and bbc and sky news show video.
Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:18 pm
lockey1927 wrote:dogfound wrote:BlueMoon1974 wrote:You can see a body in the video released in the back area of the plane . I doubt pilot would be in back of plane. It's got to be Sala, even the statements released state the obvious 'families worst fears confirmed '. He's gone, fu.... heartbreaking! !!
yes but thats one body not two which the thread is about.
Where is this video
Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:42 pm
Llan_Blue wrote:lockey1927 wrote:dogfound wrote:BlueMoon1974 wrote:You can see a body in the video released in the back area of the plane . I doubt pilot would be in back of plane. It's got to be Sala, even the statements released state the obvious 'families worst fears confirmed '. He's gone, fu.... heartbreaking! !!
yes but thats one body not two which the thread is about.
Where is this video
For f**k sake there hardly going to post it online are they
Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:07 pm
lockey1927 wrote:Llan_Blue wrote:lockey1927 wrote:dogfound wrote:BlueMoon1974 wrote:You can see a body in the video released in the back area of the plane . I doubt pilot would be in back of plane. It's got to be Sala, even the statements released state the obvious 'families worst fears confirmed '. He's gone, fu.... heartbreaking! !!
yes but thats one body not two which the thread is about.
Where is this video
For f**k sake there hardly going to post it online are they
He said you can see the body in the video, so I've asked where the video is you dull c**t
Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:16 pm
Llan_Blue wrote:lockey1927 wrote:Llan_Blue wrote:lockey1927 wrote:dogfound wrote:BlueMoon1974 wrote:You can see a body in the video released in the back area of the plane . I doubt pilot would be in back of plane. It's got to be Sala, even the statements released state the obvious 'families worst fears confirmed '. He's gone, fu.... heartbreaking! !!
yes but thats one body not two which the thread is about.
Where is this video
For f**k sake there hardly going to post it online are they
He said you can see the body in the video, so I've asked where the video is you dull c**t
They could see a body in the video when they dove down to look at the wreckage.
They are hardly going to share that with the world are they.
Bit of common sense would tell you there’s no where you can view it.
Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:18 pm
Llan_Blue wrote:lockey1927 wrote:Llan_Blue wrote:lockey1927 wrote:dogfound wrote:BlueMoon1974 wrote:You can see a body in the video released in the back area of the plane . I doubt pilot would be in back of plane. It's got to be Sala, even the statements released state the obvious 'families worst fears confirmed '. He's gone, fu.... heartbreaking! !!
yes but thats one body not two which the thread is about.
Where is this video
For f**k sake there hardly going to post it online are they
He said you can see the body in the video, so I've asked where the video is you dull c**t
They could see a body in the video when they dove down to look at the wreckage.
They are hardly going to share that with the world are they.
Bit of common sense would tell you there’s no where you can view it.
Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:18 pm
Llan_Blue wrote:lockey1927 wrote:Llan_Blue wrote:lockey1927 wrote:dogfound wrote:BlueMoon1974 wrote:You can see a body in the video released in the back area of the plane . I doubt pilot would be in back of plane. It's got to be Sala, even the statements released state the obvious 'families worst fears confirmed '. He's gone, fu.... heartbreaking! !!
yes but thats one body not two which the thread is about.
Where is this video
For f**k sake there hardly going to post it online are they
He said you can see the body in the video, so I've asked where the video is you dull c**t
They could see a body in the video when they dove down to look at the wreckage.
They are hardly going to share that with the world are they.
Bit of common sense would tell you there’s no where you can view it.
Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:20 pm
Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:Well, what they've said is that they can SEE one body , but they're only looking at video in dark conditions taken by an ROV, so that's not to say that there's not another one in there. If those cushions which they found are actually from the aeroplane then that suggests that the fusillage is fractured somewhere and that body(s) could also have come out.
They're not diving for the body apparently but trying to extracate it with an ROV with hooks and chains, which seems ambitious to be frank for reasons which I won't go into here but which should be obvious. Thus, the removal of the first body won't necessarily reveal the second even if it's there.
Presumably there are practical reasons why they're not using divers, which would be the best chance of finding out what else might be in the wreckage. I'd have thought that the best chance of preserving any remains intact would be to attach oxygen balloons to the aeroplane, inflate them and try to bring it up slowly enough in tidal gaps to keep it in one bit, but again I'm sure there are practical reasons as to why they're doing something else . I do happen to know that the tidal gaps in those waters are very short at certain times of the year, so maybe it's that.
Actually it's surprising that they've found the wreckage and even more surprising that they've been able to see a body, but I doubt whether they'll ever get a complete answer from it. I hope they'll get enough of the body out to do a Dna identification, but that'd still leave the fate of whichever the other one was hanging. In some ways the discovery of the plane makes the suffering of at least one family worse, but at least it should enable the air accident inquiry to reach some conclusions.
I’d have to agree with regards to recovering the body with an ROV. I have worked with ROV’s for 6 years and can not see how you would be able to do so. Where did you see that they would be recovering the body with an ROV?
The only feasible way would be ‘IF’ the said body was harnessed into a seat, and then fitting strops into certain areas of seat. But without seeing accessibility the area it’s all guess work. The people working on it are professionals in work of this nature, so I’m pretty sure they will now what needs to be done.
As for you mentioning oxygen bags to lift it. That would definitely be the easiest/safest way to do so, which would need divers. As it’s at 65m it would need to be sat divers therefore needing a specialist dive support vessel, and depending on who’s paying would not be cheap. But I’d imagine the government/AAIB would foot that bill.
All that said for everyone involved let’s hope both bodies are recovered and the plane so there is closure for both families, and also a chance of finding out what happened.
Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:43 pm
Sven wrote:Llan_Blue wrote:lockey1927 wrote:Llan_Blue wrote:lockey1927 wrote:dogfound wrote:BlueMoon1974 wrote:You can see a body in the video released in the back area of the plane . I doubt pilot would be in back of plane. It's got to be Sala, even the statements released state the obvious 'families worst fears confirmed '. He's gone, fu.... heartbreaking! !!
yes but thats one body not two which the thread is about.
Where is this video
For f**k sake there hardly going to post it online are they
He said you can see the body in the video, so I've asked where the video is you dull c**t
They could see a body in the video when they dove down to look at the wreckage.
They are hardly going to share that with the world are they.
Bit of common sense would tell you there’s no where you can view it.
You miss the point (yet again)![]()
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Quote (BlueMoon1974): "You can see a body in the video released in the back area of the plane"
Lockey1927 asked where this video was to be viewed and it turns out there isn't one (that shows any body)
What's hard to understand about that and why have a 'pop' at him?![]()
The so-called "bit of common sense" you refer to would indicate the person you need to be having a 'pop' at is BlueMoon1974, who once again made something up for his own weird ends!
Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:33 pm
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:Well, what they've said is that they can SEE one body , but they're only looking at video in dark conditions taken by an ROV, so that's not to say that there's not another one in there. If those cushions which they found are actually from the aeroplane then that suggests that the fusillage is fractured somewhere and that body(s) could also have come out.
They're not diving for the body apparently but trying to extracate it with an ROV with hooks and chains, which seems ambitious to be frank for reasons which I won't go into here but which should be obvious. Thus, the removal of the first body won't necessarily reveal the second even if it's there.
Presumably there are practical reasons why they're not using divers, which would be the best chance of finding out what else might be in the wreckage. I'd have thought that the best chance of preserving any remains intact would be to attach oxygen balloons to the aeroplane, inflate them and try to bring it up slowly enough in tidal gaps to keep it in one bit, but again I'm sure there are practical reasons as to why they're doing something else . I do happen to know that the tidal gaps in those waters are very short at certain times of the year, so maybe it's that.
Actually it's surprising that they've found the wreckage and even more surprising that they've been able to see a body, but I doubt whether they'll ever get a complete answer from it. I hope they'll get enough of the body out to do a Dna identification, but that'd still leave the fate of whichever the other one was hanging. In some ways the discovery of the plane makes the suffering of at least one family worse, but at least it should enable the air accident inquiry to reach some conclusions.
I’d have to agree with regards to recovering the body with an ROV. I have worked with ROV’s for 6 years and can not see how you would be able to do so. Where did you see that they would be recovering the body with an ROV?
The only feasible way would be ‘IF’ the said body was harnessed into a seat, and then fitting strops into certain areas of seat. But without seeing accessibility the area it’s all guess work. The people working on it are professionals in work of this nature, so I’m pretty sure they will now what needs to be done.
As for you mentioning oxygen bags to lift it. That would definitely be the easiest/safest way to do so, which would need divers. As it’s at 65m it would need to be sat divers therefore needing a specialist dive support vessel, and depending on who’s paying would not be cheap. But I’d imagine the government/AAIB would foot that bill.
All that said for everyone involved let’s hope both bodies are recovered and the plane so there is closure for both families, and also a chance of finding out what happened.
If by ‘sat’ divers, you mean saturation divers then no you are wrong.
Divers would need to be technically trained of, course, but would use mixed gases or more likely rebreathers.
Lift bags (not oxygen) would be the easiest route by far, however, not without problems due to winter and conditions of course.
Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:36 am
Llan_Blue wrote:Sven wrote:Llan_Blue wrote:lockey1927 wrote:Llan_Blue wrote:lockey1927 wrote:dogfound wrote:BlueMoon1974 wrote:You can see a body in the video released in the back area of the plane . I doubt pilot would be in back of plane. It's got to be Sala, even the statements released state the obvious 'families worst fears confirmed '. He's gone, fu.... heartbreaking! !!
yes but thats one body not two which the thread is about.
Where is this video
For f**k sake there hardly going to post it online are they
He said you can see the body in the video, so I've asked where the video is you dull c**t
They could see a body in the video when they dove down to look at the wreckage.
They are hardly going to share that with the world are they.
Bit of common sense would tell you there’s no where you can view it.
You miss the point (yet again)![]()
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Quote (BlueMoon1974): "You can see a body in the video released in the back area of the plane"
Lockey1927 asked where this video was to be viewed and it turns out there isn't one (that shows any body)
What's hard to understand about that and why have a 'pop' at him?![]()
The so-called "bit of common sense" you refer to would indicate the person you need to be having a 'pop' at is BlueMoon1974, who once again made something up for his own weird ends!
Pipe down there’s nothing wrong with my comment I haven’t missed the point common sense tells you there’s not going to be a video going around the internet of the body’s in the back of a plane and I was hardly having a pop at anybody.
Caught a few of those embarrassing face emojis in that Sand Martin thread they other day didn’t you fella. Promoting there great offer.
Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:36 pm
Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:Well, what they've said is that they can SEE one body , but they're only looking at video in dark conditions taken by an ROV, so that's not to say that there's not another one in there. If those cushions which they found are actually from the aeroplane then that suggests that the fusillage is fractured somewhere and that body(s) could also have come out.
They're not diving for the body apparently but trying to extracate it with an ROV with hooks and chains, which seems ambitious to be frank for reasons which I won't go into here but which should be obvious. Thus, the removal of the first body won't necessarily reveal the second even if it's there.
Presumably there are practical reasons why they're not using divers, which would be the best chance of finding out what else might be in the wreckage. I'd have thought that the best chance of preserving any remains intact would be to attach oxygen balloons to the aeroplane, inflate them and try to bring it up slowly enough in tidal gaps to keep it in one bit, but again I'm sure there are practical reasons as to why they're doing something else . I do happen to know that the tidal gaps in those waters are very short at certain times of the year, so maybe it's that.
Actually it's surprising that they've found the wreckage and even more surprising that they've been able to see a body, but I doubt whether they'll ever get a complete answer from it. I hope they'll get enough of the body out to do a Dna identification, but that'd still leave the fate of whichever the other one was hanging. In some ways the discovery of the plane makes the suffering of at least one family worse, but at least it should enable the air accident inquiry to reach some conclusions.
I’d have to agree with regards to recovering the body with an ROV. I have worked with ROV’s for 6 years and can not see how you would be able to do so. Where did you see that they would be recovering the body with an ROV?
The only feasible way would be ‘IF’ the said body was harnessed into a seat, and then fitting strops into certain areas of seat. But without seeing accessibility the area it’s all guess work. The people working on it are professionals in work of this nature, so I’m pretty sure they will now what needs to be done.
As for you mentioning oxygen bags to lift it. That would definitely be the easiest/safest way to do so, which would need divers. As it’s at 65m it would need to be sat divers therefore needing a specialist dive support vessel, and depending on who’s paying would not be cheap. But I’d imagine the government/AAIB would foot that bill.
All that said for everyone involved let’s hope both bodies are recovered and the plane so there is closure for both families, and also a chance of finding out what happened.
If by ‘sat’ divers, you mean saturation divers then no you are wrong.
Divers would need to be technically trained of, course, but would use mixed gases or more likely rebreathers.
Lift bags (not oxygen) would be the easiest route by far, however, not without problems due to winter and conditions of course.
The cut off commercially for air divers even with mixed air (Heliox) is 50m, the plane is at a depth of 65m therefore I said sat divers would be needed. Unless the salvage sector is different to the oil and gas sector, which I highly doubt as it’s still commercial.
Agreed with the weather conditions, but can’t see any alternative to lift it otherwise.
Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:41 pm
Sven wrote:Llan_Blue wrote:Sven wrote:Llan_Blue wrote:lockey1927 wrote:Llan_Blue wrote:lockey1927 wrote:dogfound wrote:BlueMoon1974 wrote:You can see a body in the video released in the back area of the plane . I doubt pilot would be in back of plane. It's got to be Sala, even the statements released state the obvious 'families worst fears confirmed '. He's gone, fu.... heartbreaking! !!
yes but thats one body not two which the thread is about.
Where is this video
For f**k sake there hardly going to post it online are they
He said you can see the body in the video, so I've asked where the video is you dull c**t
They could see a body in the video when they dove down to look at the wreckage.
They are hardly going to share that with the world are they.
Bit of common sense would tell you there’s no where you can view it.
You miss the point (yet again)![]()
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Quote (BlueMoon1974): "You can see a body in the video released in the back area of the plane"
Lockey1927 asked where this video was to be viewed and it turns out there isn't one (that shows any body)
What's hard to understand about that and why have a 'pop' at him?![]()
The so-called "bit of common sense" you refer to would indicate the person you need to be having a 'pop' at is BlueMoon1974, who once again made something up for his own weird ends!
Pipe down there’s nothing wrong with my comment I haven’t missed the point common sense tells you there’s not going to be a video going around the internet of the body’s in the back of a plane and I was hardly having a pop at anybody.
Caught a few of those embarrassing face emojis in that Sand Martin thread they other day didn’t you fella. Promoting there great offer.
You clearly have (yet again) missed the point; BlueMoon1974 stated that there was a video showing a body when there clearly wasn't!![]()
If only you had an inkling at what was really going on with the Sand Martin offer; but it's tough to educate the ignorant and the presumptuous, as the responses in that thread (and now from you) proved!
Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:56 pm
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:Well, what they've said is that they can SEE one body , but they're only looking at video in dark conditions taken by an ROV, so that's not to say that there's not another one in there. If those cushions which they found are actually from the aeroplane then that suggests that the fusillage is fractured somewhere and that body(s) could also have come out.
They're not diving for the body apparently but trying to extracate it with an ROV with hooks and chains, which seems ambitious to be frank for reasons which I won't go into here but which should be obvious. Thus, the removal of the first body won't necessarily reveal the second even if it's there.
Presumably there are practical reasons why they're not using divers, which would be the best chance of finding out what else might be in the wreckage. I'd have thought that the best chance of preserving any remains intact would be to attach oxygen balloons to the aeroplane, inflate them and try to bring it up slowly enough in tidal gaps to keep it in one bit, but again I'm sure there are practical reasons as to why they're doing something else . I do happen to know that the tidal gaps in those waters are very short at certain times of the year, so maybe it's that.
Actually it's surprising that they've found the wreckage and even more surprising that they've been able to see a body, but I doubt whether they'll ever get a complete answer from it. I hope they'll get enough of the body out to do a Dna identification, but that'd still leave the fate of whichever the other one was hanging. In some ways the discovery of the plane makes the suffering of at least one family worse, but at least it should enable the air accident inquiry to reach some conclusions.
I’d have to agree with regards to recovering the body with an ROV. I have worked with ROV’s for 6 years and can not see how you would be able to do so. Where did you see that they would be recovering the body with an ROV?
The only feasible way would be ‘IF’ the said body was harnessed into a seat, and then fitting strops into certain areas of seat. But without seeing accessibility the area it’s all guess work. The people working on it are professionals in work of this nature, so I’m pretty sure they will now what needs to be done.
As for you mentioning oxygen bags to lift it. That would definitely be the easiest/safest way to do so, which would need divers. As it’s at 65m it would need to be sat divers therefore needing a specialist dive support vessel, and depending on who’s paying would not be cheap. But I’d imagine the government/AAIB would foot that bill.
All that said for everyone involved let’s hope both bodies are recovered and the plane so there is closure for both families, and also a chance of finding out what happened.
If by ‘sat’ divers, you mean saturation divers then no you are wrong.
Divers would need to be technically trained of, course, but would use mixed gases or more likely rebreathers.
Lift bags (not oxygen) would be the easiest route by far, however, not without problems due to winter and conditions of course.
The cut off commercially for air divers even with mixed air (Heliox) is 50m, the plane is at a depth of 65m therefore I said sat divers would be needed. Unless the salvage sector is different to the oil and gas sector, which I highly doubt as it’s still commercial.
Agreed with the weather conditions, but can’t see any alternative to lift it otherwise.
Again, you’re wrong mate.
A MOD3 Tech CCR diver is trained to 100m depth on Trimix.
I, myself, have dived to a depth of 60m and am a professional diver (not commercial).
I’m not suggesting this method was used as I don’t know but I’m just making a point.
Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:03 pm
Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:Well, what they've said is that they can SEE one body , but they're only looking at video in dark conditions taken by an ROV, so that's not to say that there's not another one in there. If those cushions which they found are actually from the aeroplane then that suggests that the fusillage is fractured somewhere and that body(s) could also have come out.
They're not diving for the body apparently but trying to extracate it with an ROV with hooks and chains, which seems ambitious to be frank for reasons which I won't go into here but which should be obvious. Thus, the removal of the first body won't necessarily reveal the second even if it's there.
Presumably there are practical reasons why they're not using divers, which would be the best chance of finding out what else might be in the wreckage. I'd have thought that the best chance of preserving any remains intact would be to attach oxygen balloons to the aeroplane, inflate them and try to bring it up slowly enough in tidal gaps to keep it in one bit, but again I'm sure there are practical reasons as to why they're doing something else . I do happen to know that the tidal gaps in those waters are very short at certain times of the year, so maybe it's that.
Actually it's surprising that they've found the wreckage and even more surprising that they've been able to see a body, but I doubt whether they'll ever get a complete answer from it. I hope they'll get enough of the body out to do a Dna identification, but that'd still leave the fate of whichever the other one was hanging. In some ways the discovery of the plane makes the suffering of at least one family worse, but at least it should enable the air accident inquiry to reach some conclusions.
I’d have to agree with regards to recovering the body with an ROV. I have worked with ROV’s for 6 years and can not see how you would be able to do so. Where did you see that they would be recovering the body with an ROV?
The only feasible way would be ‘IF’ the said body was harnessed into a seat, and then fitting strops into certain areas of seat. But without seeing accessibility the area it’s all guess work. The people working on it are professionals in work of this nature, so I’m pretty sure they will now what needs to be done.
As for you mentioning oxygen bags to lift it. That would definitely be the easiest/safest way to do so, which would need divers. As it’s at 65m it would need to be sat divers therefore needing a specialist dive support vessel, and depending on who’s paying would not be cheap. But I’d imagine the government/AAIB would foot that bill.
All that said for everyone involved let’s hope both bodies are recovered and the plane so there is closure for both families, and also a chance of finding out what happened.
If by ‘sat’ divers, you mean saturation divers then no you are wrong.
Divers would need to be technically trained of, course, but would use mixed gases or more likely rebreathers.
Lift bags (not oxygen) would be the easiest route by far, however, not without problems due to winter and conditions of course.
The cut off commercially for air divers even with mixed air (Heliox) is 50m, the plane is at a depth of 65m therefore I said sat divers would be needed. Unless the salvage sector is different to the oil and gas sector, which I highly doubt as it’s still commercial.
Agreed with the weather conditions, but can’t see any alternative to lift it otherwise.
Again, you’re wrong mate.
A MOD3 Tech CCR diver is trained to 100m depth on Trimix.
I, myself, have dived to a depth of 60m and am a professional diver (not commercial).
I’m not suggesting this method was used as I don’t know but I’m just making a point.
I like that you keep saying I’m wrong when I stating IMCA rules, but as I am saying commercially the cut off is 50m. I’m not making this up, I fully aware people can dive deeper with mixed gases. People have dived deeper than 65m without any aide. I work in the offshore industry and the cut off for air divers is 50m. Sat divers will be used for anything below that depth.
But by all accounts the ROV has recovered the body, so there was no divers required.