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Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?

Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:25 pm

Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?



NEIL WARNOCK:

“Yes, I’ll pay whatever it takes! Let’s ask that question at the end of the season"

"I think he’s matured beyond all recognition really. I like to think it’s that I’ve given him the freedom to do what he’s good at. He’s got so much going for him in terms of what he can do. He’s getting better as the season’s gone on. I think both Harry (Arter) and him are here on season-long loans. That’s the plus."

"We couldn’t get a Victor or Harry at this stage. Betis can only thank me because I’ve put him in the shop window. They must have one hell of a team. I’ve said to them if they have any other reserves like this!”
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Re: Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?

Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:52 pm

1 of 3 scenarios will happen with this!

1, We will be relegated, we cant afford him and he will not want to drop a division

2, We stay up and cant compete in a bidding war for his signature as he will be expensive

3, Betis want him back after him showing fantastic form and dont want to sell or loan again

Either way as much as i hate to say it i dont see us retaining him next season unfortunatly. We are very lucky to have him this season.

Re: Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?

Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:19 pm

I thought we would have signed him 1st of january 2019

Re: Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?

Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:40 pm

Reading what NW said I be very surprised if we sign him he's off to bigger club as betis can see £££££ signs in their eyes :shock:

Re: Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?

Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:42 pm

thomasblue wrote:1 of 3 scenarios will happen with this!

1, We will be relegated, we cant afford him and he will not want to drop a division

2, We stay up and cant compete in a bidding war for his signature as he will be expensive

3, Betis want him back after him showing fantastic form and dont want to sell or loan again

Either way as much as i hate to say it i dont see us retaining him next season unfortunatly. We are very lucky to have him this season.

Or the weather?

Re: Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?

Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:23 pm

Weather wise I thought we had a tidy summer he has' nt seen our snow yet will have to drive him to derby when it start to show him how bad things can get here.

Re: Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?

Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:24 pm

Yes hes is class and has sell on value

Re: Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?

Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:30 pm

Yes hes is class and has sell on value

Re: Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?

Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:33 pm

It does' nt say much about how much ambition we have if we don' t sign him so many people saying that we are taking a gamble on players from abroad etc because we don' t know there cv etc well we will have had him all season and are still prepared not to sign a proven quality premier player its like banging your head against a brick wall i despair at our attidude we might aswell just drop to the 1st division playing shrewsbury town and the likes every week

Re: Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?

Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:10 pm

montyblue wrote:It does' nt say much about how much ambition we have if we don' t sign him so many people saying that we are taking a gamble on players from abroad etc because we don' t know there cv etc well we will have had him all season and are still prepared not to sign a proven quality premier player its like banging your head against a brick wall i despair at our attidude we might aswell just drop to the 1st division playing shrewsbury town and the likes every week


How much would you say he is worth ?

Re: Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?

Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:11 pm

I wish we were making more use of the foreign market than we are.

There must be plenty of other "Victor Camarasa" type players on the fringe of the first team in the European leagues who would relish an opportunity to put themselves in the shop window in the same way that Victor has, whilst improving us at that same time.

We may be trying extremely hard to unearth some more hungry young players from abroad but I'm not too sure that we are. Victor has proven that those types of player are out there if you look hard enough.

Re: Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?

Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:14 pm

davids wrote:I wish we were making more use of the foreign market than we are.

There must be plenty of other "Victor Camarasa" type players on the fringe of the first team in the European leagues who would relish an opportunity to put themselves in the shop window in the same way that Victor has, whilst improving us at that same time.

We may be trying extremely hard to unearth some more hungry young players from abroad but I'm not too sure that we are. Victor has proven that those types of player are out there if you look hard enough.

I agree

Re: Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?

Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:37 pm

I hope the club done a deal at the start of the loan,with a fee already agreed,if we wanted to sign him permanently,knowing Cardiff we haven’t,and he ll go to a bigger club at end of season

Re: Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?

Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:42 pm

caerblue wrote:I hope the club done a deal at the start of the loan,with a fee already agreed,if we wanted to sign him permanently,knowing Cardiff we haven’t,and he ll go to a bigger club at end of season


We havent

Re: Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?

Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:51 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
caerblue wrote:I hope the club done a deal at the start of the loan,with a fee already agreed,if we wanted to sign him permanently,knowing Cardiff we haven’t,and he ll go to a bigger club at end of season


We havent



Can only do this if the parent club agree and judging by things no they didn't agree so out of citys hands :old:

Re: Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?

Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:07 pm

It was the fact we played real betis in a friendly and words where exchanged from the benches i suspect rather than our foreign scouts if we have any seeking out players.

Re: Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?

Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:26 pm

THIMASBLUE
you ask me how much camarrasa is worth in playing terms or finacial reading through the forum this season he is our top player amongest the fans so on the playing side he is according to most fans woeth breaking rhe bank for because we can see what he brings.finacially speaking you tell me what do you think he' s worth on the forum a figure of 13.5 million has been quoted but i am sure he is as worth to us as much as mitovic is to fulham which was about 22 mill what i am trying to point out is that the player is there to see so there' s no risk on wondering if he is going to make the grade at this level .early bird catches the worm 1st jan 2019 for me.

Re: Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?

Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:29 pm

montyblue wrote:THIMASBLUE
you ask me how much camarrasa is worth in playing terms or finacial reading through the forum this season he is our top player amongest the fans so on the playing side he is according to most fans woeth breaking rhe bank for because we can see what he brings.finacially speaking you tell me what do you think he' s worth on the forum a figure of 13.5 million has been quoted but i am sure he is as worth to us as much as mitovic is to fulham which was about 22 mill what i am trying to point out is that the player is there to see so there' s no risk on wondering if he is going to make the grade at this level .early bird catches the worm 1st jan 2019 for me.


I agree i think he will be around the £20 mill mark.

The problem is that is our entire January budget gone on a player we already have in the squad for the rest of the season. Meaning we have no money left to strengthen positions we badly need lime a right back and striker.

If we stay up and sign him in the summer it will be half our budget at least on a single player and we will be in the same place as we are now.

If we get relegated we are left with a expensive player on big wages (apparently €65k at Betis)
In the championship.

We are not in a position to pay those prices yet

Re: Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?

Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:14 pm

THOMASBLUE
got your name right this time it seems its back to the drawing board then for my thoughts on this topic,by the way how do you know our budget is 20 mill

Re: Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?

Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:47 pm

montyblue wrote:It does' nt say much about how much ambition we have if we don' t sign him so many people saying that we are taking a gamble on players from abroad etc because we don' t know there cv etc well we will have had him all season and are still prepared not to sign a proven quality premier player its like banging your head against a brick wall i despair at our attidude we might aswell just drop to the 1st division playing shrewsbury town and the likes every week


And I despair at your attitude.

Re: Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?

Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:04 pm

Would love to have him permanently but can see another Grujic scenario happening

Re: Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?

Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:32 pm

WELSHMAN IN CA
don' t think much about your 1 liner either.

Re: Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?

Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:40 am

Best footballer in the Club. A must sign player.

Re: Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?

Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:26 am

Absolute class. When he started getting on the ball against palarse it was a joy to watch and took the pressure right off us.

Re: Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?

Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:45 am

montyblue wrote:Weather wise I thought we had a tidy summer he has' nt seen our snow yet will have to drive him to derby when it start to show him how bad things can get here.

:lol: :lol:

Re: Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?

Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:47 am

davids wrote:I wish we were making more use of the foreign market than we are.

There must be plenty of other "Victor Camarasa" type players on the fringe of the first team in the European leagues who would relish an opportunity to put themselves in the shop window in the same way that Victor has, whilst improving us at that same time.

We may be trying extremely hard to unearth some more hungry young players from abroad but I'm not too sure that we are. Victor has proven that those types of player are out there if you look hard enough.

100%

Re: Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?

Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:49 am

wez1927 wrote:
davids wrote:I wish we were making more use of the foreign market than we are.

There must be plenty of other "Victor Camarasa" type players on the fringe of the first team in the European leagues who would relish an opportunity to put themselves in the shop window in the same way that Victor has, whilst improving us at that same time.

We may be trying extremely hard to unearth some more hungry young players from abroad but I'm not too sure that we are. Victor has proven that those types of player are out there if you look hard enough.

I agree

Just look at that little kid in midfield for Arsenal.

Re: Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?

Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:50 am

Bluesman wrote:Best footballer in the Club. A must sign player.

Ever :ayatollah:

Re: Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?

Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:57 am

Hell yeah!

Re: Do you want to sign Camarasa permanently?

Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:52 pm

Ah YES - YES - YES !!!