“ Bid Rejected “

Neil Warnock confirms they’ve had a bid rejected for Nantes striker Emiliano Sala. But haven’t made a second bid (yet)?

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Type of player we need ,we do create chances we need someone to score them

Get it done gaffer, we need a striker ASAP bluebirds

Go get him he looks decent tbf.

Simple: we needed a striker in the summer - nothing has changed. If we don’t spend the money to get a striker & try to do it on the cheap as what appears since the summer we will go down.

Can’t fault the players commitment but to date not backed by the board.

If it’s only a couple of million more, try and convince Tan, Choo and Dalman to agree to it.

Would make Tan more money than he’d pay for the player if he keeps us up.

Give Nantes a Madine style bonus. £18m upfront rising to say £25-30 if we stay up. We'll make that extra £7-12m back in prize money alone.

Give Nantes a Madine style bonus. £18m upfront rising to say £25-30 if we stay up. We'll make that extra £7-12m back in prize money alone.

That's been tried most likely. Just probably more like 10M upfront

Not convinced we need to spend that much at all. Only my opinion, but I think we're still going through the re-building stage and I believe it is more important to stabilise the club financially than to stay in in the Prem.
If we were relegated, and as many on this site have said, We have good players on long contracts and Sir Niel has another season to go, (I think) take the Prem dosh and parachute payments and make our beloved Cardiff City a team that can go on to be debt free and then get established in the Prem for the long term.

Not convinced we need to spend that much at all. Only my opinion, but I think we're still going through the re-building stage and I believe it is more important to stabilise the club financially than to stay in in the Prem.
If we were relegated, and as many on this site have said, We have good players on long contracts and Sir Niel has another season to go, (I think) take the Prem dosh and parachute payments and make our beloved Cardiff City a team that can go on to be debt free and then get established in the Prem for the long term.

Great then give the prem another go in two years time with no funding again from tan and co. I would rather be in league 2 than be under tan with no ambition for us, what's the point?

Not convinced we need to spend that much at all. Only my opinion, but I think we're still going through the re-building stage and I believe it is more important to stabilise the club financially than to stay in in the Prem.
If we were relegated, and as many on this site have said, We have good players on long contracts and Sir Niel has another season to go, (I think) take the Prem dosh and parachute payments and make our beloved Cardiff City a team that can go on to be debt free and then get established in the Prem for the long term.

For the most part I agree with you with club stability over risk but we've proved this season were by no means the worst team in the league and with our togetherness as a whole we stand a good chance of staying up this year especially with a quality striker. I definitely think it's worth speculating to ecumulate

Not convinced we need to spend that much at all. Only my opinion, but I think we're still going through the re-building stage and I believe it is more important to stabilise the club financially than to stay in in the Prem.
If we were relegated, and as many on this site have said, We have good players on long contracts and Sir Niel has another season to go, (I think) take the Prem dosh and parachute payments and make our beloved Cardiff City a team that can go on to be debt free and then get established in the Prem for the long term.

For the most part I agree with you with club stability over risk but we've proved this season were by no means the worst team in the league and with our togetherness as a whole we stand a good chance of staying up this year especially with a quality striker. I definitely think it's worth speculating to ecumulate

Why are people even questioning this? We have to go for it in January, otherwise their is no point being here ffs.

Cardiff City need to go after him, Cardiff City battled today without a striker, Zahore injured,Patterson injured,Warnock improvising week in week out,the board and Tan need to improve this offer. I believe Warnock will walk if Cardiff don’t back him on this, not just Warnock, the Club need to back him and the loyal fans that have been amazing,I also believe the ball is in Tan’s court, Tan has to back Warnock.

Not convinced we need to spend that much at all. Only my opinion, but I think we're still going through the re-building stage and I believe it is more important to stabilise the club financially than to stay in in the Prem.
If we were relegated, and as many on this site have said, We have good players on long contracts and Sir Niel has another season to go, (I think) take the Prem dosh and parachute payments and make our beloved Cardiff City a team that can go on to be debt free and then get established in the Prem for the long term.

Great then give the prem another go in two years time with no funding again from tan and co. I would rather be in league 2 than be under tan with no ambition for us, what's the point?

Tans ambition is to make us debt free & self sufficient that is well documented, because it doesn't coincide with some fans idea of ambition doesn't mean it's not relevant to the club! Problem is we've been spoilt by NW success which as put cat amongst the pidgeons and totally unexpectedly put us where we were not ready for namely the premier league.

If we bought him and went down surely he would have similar value to sell in the summer go on tan back NW

ac milan apparently are now interested and willing to pay 18m plus a 5 million bonus.
a hell of a lot of money for a 28 year old unproven in the premier league

We need a quality striker end of

The fee is too high for a unproven player who is not exactly young.

I would move on to other targets this seems to much of a gamble at the moment for us

One thing in our favour a lot of world footballers want to play in the premier league as apposed to the italian or German league etc as for all this b.ll.cks about going down to championship to be financially stable why not become finacially stable in the premier like little bournmouth as regards spending big money i don' t think spending 20 mill on a premier player is over the top if that helps you stabalise your premier status and the fulham argument of spending big and look where its got them well we are not talking about 100 million and look where wolves are in the table by spending wisely the ammount of times people baging on about us been in the premier we can' t afford to be here etc perhaps neil should have told us to throw the last few games in the championship last season because we are not ready and cannot afford to be there, i think the likes if Aston villa stoke derby etc would love to be where we are now.

15m is nothing in todays market, we have to take our championship hats off

One thing in our favour a lot of world footballers want to play in the premier league as apposed to the italian or German league etc as for all this b.ll.cks about going down to championship to be financially stable why not become finacially stable in the premier like little bournmouth as regards spending big money i don' t think spending 20 mill on a premier player is over the top if that helps you stabalise your premier status and the fulham argument of spending big and look where its got them well we are not talking about 100 million and look where wolves are in the table by spending wisely the ammount of times people baging on about us been in the premier we can' t afford to be here etc perhaps neil should have told us to throw the last few games in the championship last season because we are not ready and cannot afford to be there, i think the likes if Aston villa stoke derby etc would love to be where we are now.

The £20mill is not the issue. It is the gamble on a 28 year old who has only done OK for two or three seasons in a pretty poor league.
He averages 12 goals a year in france for the last 3 years. Before that he was constantly loaned out to random clubs in lower tier france.

He is a big gamble at that price

THOMASBLUE
loaning players out does'nt mean anything camarassa and arter are loaned to us and would you say there where are 2 best players or rate them not very good because they are loanwd out, also neil must have seen something in this player and let mr worry about what we spend, you can put so many obstacles in front of doing something that you end up doing nothing in buisness and in life you hade to take bigger steps sometimes

THOMASBLUE
loaning players out does'nt mean anything camarassa and arter are loaned to us and would you say there where are 2 best players or rate them not very good because they are loanwd out, also neil must have seen something in this player and let mr worry about what we spend, you can put so many obstacles in front of doing something that you end up doing nothing in buisness and in life you hade to take bigger steps sometimes

I was pointing to his experiance at the highest level.

Would you rather take a £20mill gamble on a player who "might" be good enough or pay £20mill for a player who is good enough ?

15m is nothing in todays market, we have to take our championship hats off

£15m is 50% is the average turnover of a Championship club. If a club is guaranteed Premiership money each season it could be described as next to nothing amount but for a club with a real possibility of being relegated then parting with such a large amount on one player in January without a guarantee of success is a very big gamble which could impound on the club for years.

One thing in our favour a lot of world footballers want to play in the premier league as apposed to the italian or German league etc as for all this b.ll.cks about going down to championship to be financially stable why not become finacially stable in the premier like little bournmouth as regards spending big money i don' t think spending 20 mill on a premier player is over the top if that helps you stabalise your premier status and the fulham argument of spending big and look where its got them well we are not talking about 100 million and look where wolves are in the table by spending wisely the ammount of times people baging on about us been in the premier we can' t afford to be here etc perhaps neil should have told us to throw the last few games in the championship last season because we are not ready and cannot afford to be there, i think the likes if Aston villa stoke derby etc would love to be where we are now.

The £20mill is not the issue. It is the gamble on a 28 year old who has only done OK for two or three seasons in a pretty poor league.
He averages 12 goals a year in france for the last 3 years. Before that he was constantly loaned out to random clubs in lower tier france.

He is a big gamble at that price

Totally agree Thomas

Huge gamble on a 28 year old who has never really done it, you just know we’d get nowhere near what we paid for him if we did go down also. Another madine

Who is the 20 million certainty striker out there tell neil so he can sign him if you think its a gamble on a nobody why can' t the manager board name these 20 million certanties or just sign them as to taking a gamble why would they do that if there are certanties there just waiting to be signed

Not convinced we need to spend that much at all. Only my opinion, but I think we're still going through the re-building stage and I believe it is more important to stabilise the club financially than to stay in in the Prem.
If we were relegated, and as many on this site have said, We have good players on long contracts and Sir Niel has another season to go, (I think) take the Prem dosh and parachute payments and make our beloved Cardiff City a team that can go on to be debt free and then get established in the Prem for the long term.

Great then give the prem another go in two years time with no funding again from tan and co. I would rather be in league 2 than be under tan with no ambition for us, what's the point?

You can hardly say Vincent Tan has "no ambition" with the money he has ploughed in to date, can you?

He's just decided to do it (as with all his businesses) in a structured and deliberate manner that will see said business thrive on its own

I'm sure he really 'wants' the club in the Premier League for two reasons, i.e (i) it raises his own profile, and (ii) it gives him the opportunity to recoup his money at some point and maybe even a profit

Knock Vincent Tan all you like, and many still do, but we are where we are because of him and his money and I don't recall any recent temporary custodians of the club ploughing so much in (probably even collectively) and actually delivering on the field of play

Do you?

As for "I would rather be in league 2 than be under tan with no ambition for us, what's the point?" I find that rather a strange attitude to have, as profesional football is a competitive game where surely the ultimate aim of every club/suporter is to make it to the top?

If that's not the case, why bother in the beginning? That would be a waste of everyone's time!

Even though I have read from reliable sources Abraham is the key target I feel like this doesn't sit right with me.

If there is genuine interest from us and there is something 1-3 million off the mark that they want I would be really annoyed that Warnock wouldn't cough up a few extra million if they asking for 5 million or more on top what we offered then I can understand if we don't go back in but feel like Warnock is using this as an attempt to fool the fans to think we are genuinley trying to make some noise in the market just to be let down and hear 'Clubs were asking for far too much way too much than we prepared to pay'.

Really not a fan of Warnock's comments in the media about this window, trying to gain sympathy and lead the fans into believing we haven't got a chance in the market when we do and we are being way too tight.

People on here hammering our best ever owner Tan want to look at the facts! We spent £30m in the Summer,the 14th highest NET spend in the Premier League, more than Man City and Spurs and we were the 5th highest Net spenders in the Championship!
See transfemarkt. Neil like to play we have less money than anyone else but it’s just not true, but we have a lot of bad buys and have had no income from selling players in fact it has cost us a lot of money to pay up players contracts.
I’m sure Tan would give Neil the money if he thought the deal was right, but I think both think loans with option to buy is the way to go rather than expensive buys with long contracts like the Madine and Tomlin deals?