Jacks winding me up

Had this sent to me as a wind up

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I recognise a couple of these from when they came down for the Wales v England game(stuck in the gay bar all morning|).They were lucky the coppers wrapped them up that day,bunch of farts.

strange people..
how on earth can someone trying to look like Tan be remotely funny having just had the transfer window they just had immediately after relegation. .talk about not getting it.

Dunno what is more embarrassing, the union jack or rugby shirt

I am ashamed to say I know one of those 'things'

Makes more sense now

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Makes more sense now

I meet a jack on holiday I really did try to talk about football to him but he was a complete tit I had to give up in the end.
Once he called me mush I had to go .
Very remedial guy as you would expect from them why did I bother I ask myself.

That guy on the far right thinks he’s big puffing himself up. What a gimp

Excuse my ignorance but whats with the union jack?

I guess that's their token away support this season

Why has the lad in the front got a tampon up his nose?

Why has the lad in the front got a tampon up his nose?

Drying up all the white snot in his nose from all the cocaine his been belting into him,

Dole money doesnt stretch that far though so must be a joke

Excuse my ignorance but whats with the union jack?

they started turning up at NP in 80s with them along with the red hand of Ulster flags...my take on it is , no matter who they were playing the North Bank used to be 90 minutes worth of Cardiff City is falling down, we took the grange , Cardiff ran away etc etc etc..then an away international would come along and some of these idiots would want to go but didn't for fear of bumping into Cardiff { ive been told this bit a few times by different jacks over the years }..so they don't go and instead become British to wind us up but as with most things they do { dress up as who they call agent Tan , have orange away kits the year after us losing at Wembley, the orange balloons etc etc}.we barely notice
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I think ideally they would like it to be a welsh version of Glasgow ,where we are republican Celtic only it hasn't quite dawned on them that doesn't make them Rangers it sort of makes them more Clydebank.
obviously this is not ALL their fans..but I do think its a sizeable minority { like the 2 coach loads I bumped into at Reading services last season singing rule britania }

where we are republican Celtic ....

No no no . None of that left footer shite thankyou

Instead of "COCKLES AND COCAINE" it should be "COCKS AND COCA- COLA"what a bunch of fannies!

where we are republican Celtic ....

No no no . None of that left footer shite thankyou

has zero to do with politics and everything to do with hatred mate...
if you have a better sugestion for our neighbours turning up with union jacks and hand of ulster flags im listening.

I had the unfortunate honour to play Escape into the park about 15 yrs ago, first and last time I visited the hellhole that is Gypoland.

A lot of Jacks there all looking like morons jabbering crap, the girls looked deranged, never again ... an old mate of mine lives in Swansea, he's from Cardiff but supports Arsenal and now lives down there cause all his best mates are Jacks - he's no longer a mate of mine

Dogfound is right. They never had the balls to confront Cardiff at wales away games despite always giving it the big one coming up with any old excuse, Wales are rubbish, we are just Swansea not wales etc and it grew from there with a Union Jack, how embarrassing for a welshman. They wouldn’t be afforded the protection they used to get from the police here away in Europe, so they wouldn’t go. Different times now of course, we are such a small country we need to be unified like at the Euros.

It's a Union Flag, not a Union Jack unless it's flown on a Royal Navy ship.
It's the flag under which countless British soldiers have fought and died , many from both Cardiff and Swansea.

I am trying to keep my response polite and rational, but I can remember some of those who died for it including three of my uncles who were all from Cardiff and some of these comments make me sad and angry in equal measure .

I don't understand and have never understood this pathetic nonsense about Swansea either. They're another football team which happens to be geographically quite near Cardiff, ( bit like Bristol), and all they do is play football as best they can, just like Cardiff. I'm really not sure why anyone should feel offended by that and I certainly don't - I'm much more interested in our club doing its best and succeeding than wishing failure upon other clubs because they happen to be neighbours .

For your information those who engage in Rangers/ Celtic violence are only the local pond life looking for an excuse to stab someone, and this now very diminished problem is not representative of the vast majority of football supporters. Those who make comparisons are talking absolute nonsense because the issues there are very very different and quite complicated, and it's not a situation that anyone in their right minds would want to emulate.

It's a Union Flag, not a Union Jack unless it's flown on a Royal Navy ship.
It's the flag under which countless British soldiers have fought and died , many from both Cardiff and Swansea.

I am trying to keep my response polite and rational, but I can remember some of those who died for it including three of my uncles who were all from Cardiff and some of these comments make me sad and angry in equal measure .

I don't understand and have never understood this pathetic nonsense about Swansea either. They're another football team which happens to be geographically quite near Cardiff, ( bit like Bristol), and all they do is play football as best they can, just like Cardiff. I'm really not sure why anyone should feel offended by that and I certainly don't - I'm much more interested in our club doing its best and succeeding than wishing failure upon other clubs because they happen to be neighbours .

For your information those who engage in Rangers/ Celtic violence are only the local pond life looking for an excuse to stab someone, and this now very diminished problem is not representative of the vast majority of football supporters. Those who make comparisons are talking absolute nonsense because the issues there are very very different and quite complicated, and it's not a situation that anyone in their right minds would want to emulate.

We want them to fail because they are our rivals if you don’t get that then you don’t get football.

It's a Union Flag, not a Union Jack unless it's flown on a Royal Navy ship.
It's the flag under which countless British soldiers have fought and died , many from both Cardiff and Swansea.

I am trying to keep my response polite and rational, but I can remember some of those who died for it including three of my uncles who were all from Cardiff and some of these comments make me sad and angry in equal measure .

I don't understand and have never understood this pathetic nonsense about Swansea either. They're another football team which happens to be geographically quite near Cardiff, ( bit like Bristol), and all they do is play football as best they can, just like Cardiff. I'm really not sure why anyone should feel offended by that and I certainly don't - I'm much more interested in our club doing its best and succeeding than wishing failure upon other clubs because they happen to be neighbours .

For your information those who engage in Rangers/ Celtic violence are only the local pond life looking for an excuse to stab someone, and this now very diminished problem is not representative of the vast majority of football supporters. Those who make comparisons are talking absolute nonsense because the issues there are very very different and quite complicated, and it's not a situation that anyone in their right minds would want to emulate.

Agree about the flag. I never had a real hatred for them until that last derby game at Ninian Park where their players really behaved as complete idiots winding up the crowd. Thank heavans for that last penalty and McCormack.

It's a Union Flag, not a Union Jack unless it's flown on a Royal Navy ship.
It's the flag under which countless British soldiers have fought and died , many from both Cardiff and Swansea.

I am trying to keep my response polite and rational, but I can remember some of those who died for it including three of my uncles who were all from Cardiff and some of these comments make me sad and angry in equal measure .

I don't understand and have never understood this pathetic nonsense about Swansea either. They're another football team which happens to be geographically quite near Cardiff, ( bit like Bristol), and all they do is play football as best they can, just like Cardiff. I'm really not sure why anyone should feel offended by that and I certainly don't - I'm much more interested in our club doing its best and succeeding than wishing failure upon other clubs because they happen to be neighbours .

For your information those who engage in Rangers/ Celtic violence are only the local pond life looking for an excuse to stab someone, and this now very diminished problem is not representative of the vast majority of football supporters. Those who make comparisons are talking absolute nonsense because the issues there are very very different and quite complicated, and it's not a situation that anyone in their right minds would want to emulate.

We want them to fail because they are our rivals if you don’t get that then you don’t get football.

You forgot "end of" at the end of your all knowing statement.

It's a Union Flag, not a Union Jack unless it's flown on a Royal Navy ship.
It's the flag under which countless British soldiers have fought and died , many from both Cardiff and Swansea.

I am trying to keep my response polite and rational, but I can remember some of those who died for it including three of my uncles who were all from Cardiff and some of these comments make me sad and angry in equal measure .

I don't understand and have never understood this pathetic nonsense about Swansea either. They're another football team which happens to be geographically quite near Cardiff, ( bit like Bristol), and all they do is play football as best they can, just like Cardiff. I'm really not sure why anyone should feel offended by that and I certainly don't - I'm much more interested in our club doing its best and succeeding than wishing failure upon other clubs because they happen to be neighbours .

For your information those who engage in Rangers/ Celtic violence are only the local pond life looking for an excuse to stab someone, and this now very diminished problem is not representative of the vast majority of football supporters. Those who make comparisons are talking absolute nonsense because the issues there are very very different and quite complicated, and it's not a situation that anyone in their right minds would want to emulate.

We want them to fail because they are our rivals if you don’t get that then you don’t get football.

Why are they your rivals , and what are they your rivals for ?
They're not even in the same league and it's unlikely we'll play them this season.

Now, in life generally you're better off trying to do your thing properly than wanting your " rivals" , as you put it, to fail, but it's also true in the game of football. Football is about positivity achievement and doing your best and if you think it's there as a vehicle for you to excuse and express your own rather unpleasant inner psychoses , I think you might be the one who is failing to understand the game.

Further to which -

honi soit qui mal y pense

It's a Union Flag, not a Union Jack unless it's flown on a Royal Navy ship.
It's the flag under which countless British soldiers have fought and died , many from both Cardiff and Swansea.

I am trying to keep my response polite and rational, but I can remember some of those who died for it including three of my uncles who were all from Cardiff and some of these comments make me sad and angry in equal measure .

I don't understand and have never understood this pathetic nonsense about Swansea either. They're another football team which happens to be geographically quite near Cardiff, ( bit like Bristol), and all they do is play football as best they can, just like Cardiff. I'm really not sure why anyone should feel offended by that and I certainly don't - I'm much more interested in our club doing its best and succeeding than wishing failure upon other clubs because they happen to be neighbours .

For your information those who engage in Rangers/ Celtic violence are only the local pond life looking for an excuse to stab someone, and this now very diminished problem is not representative of the vast majority of football supporters. Those who make comparisons are talking absolute nonsense because the issues there are very very different and quite complicated, and it's not a situation that anyone in their right minds would want to emulate.

We want them to fail because they are our rivals if you don’t get that then you don’t get football.

Why are they your rivals , and what are they your rivals for ?
They're not even in the same league and it's unlikely we'll play them this season.

Now, in life generally you're better off trying to do your thing properly than wanting your " rivals" , as you put it, to fail, but it's also true in the game of football. Football is about positivity achievement and doing your best and if you think it's there as a vehicle for you to excuse and express your own rather unpleasant inner psychoses , I think you might be the one who is failing to understand the game.

Just to blow your wild wacky one man theory apart.

I do want cardiff to be the best team that they can be.

BUT I also want the Jack bastards to fail.

Why can’t I do both?

Your happy clappy thinking of how football should be is what makes me cringe how could you want to turn up to a stadium that has no passion or atmosphere init.

https://youtu.be/XUoRK5GbBoA

I will just leave that link for you as well if you don’t understand the Cardiff Vs Swansea rivalry.

In fact if you dont understand local derbys then why are you even on a football message board?

It's a Union Flag, not a Union Jack unless it's flown on a Royal Navy ship.
It's the flag under which countless British soldiers have fought and died , many from both Cardiff and Swansea.

I am trying to keep my response polite and rational, but I can remember some of those who died for it including three of my uncles who were all from Cardiff and some of these comments make me sad and angry in equal measure .

I don't understand and have never understood this pathetic nonsense about Swansea either. They're another football team which happens to be geographically quite near Cardiff, ( bit like Bristol), and all they do is play football as best they can, just like Cardiff. I'm really not sure why anyone should feel offended by that and I certainly don't - I'm much more interested in our club doing its best and succeeding than wishing failure upon other clubs because they happen to be neighbours .

For your information those who engage in Rangers/ Celtic violence are only the local pond life looking for an excuse to stab someone, and this now very diminished problem is not representative of the vast majority of football supporters. Those who make comparisons are talking absolute nonsense because the issues there are very very different and quite complicated, and it's not a situation that anyone in their right minds would want to emulate.

We want them to fail because they are our rivals if you don’t get that then you don’t get football.

Why are they your rivals , and what are they your rivals for ?
They're not even in the same league and it's unlikely we'll play them this season.

Now, in life generally you're better off trying to do your thing properly than wanting your " rivals" , as you put it, to fail, but it's also true in the game of football. Football is about positivity achievement and doing your best and if you think it's there as a vehicle for you to excuse and express your own rather unpleasant inner psychoses , I think you might be the one who is failing to understand the game.

Just to blow your wild wacky one man theory apart.

I do want cardiff to be the best team that they can be.

BUT I also want the Jack bastards to fail.

Why can’t I do both?

Your happy clappy thinking of how football should be is what makes me cringe how could you want to turn up to a stadium that has no passion or atmosphere init.

https://youtu.be/XUoRK5GbBoA

I will just leave that link for you as well if you don’t understand the Cardiff Vs Swansea rivalry.

In fact if you dont understand local derbys then why are you even on a football message board?

Cause it's a football message board not a local derby message board - certainly not a looney view of local derby message board.


I looked at your link and it's a local tv tension building piece, probably to trail coverage of a game. It's very over the top, as these things often are when done by regional stations and an older version of the sort of overblown bullshit trailers we see now for the latest celebrity egg frying contest which they've come up with to reduce the costs of producing real programming.

The fact that you've taken it on board to the extent that it's inflamed you to such very stupid hatred is worrying actually.

Most people who know me certainly don't regard me as "happy clappy", as you put it - far from it in fact, but I've generally tried to reserve any strong actions or positions for those who threaten me or things which are important, not people who are probably very like me and some of whom are certainly very good people just because they happen to live a few miles up the road .

I actually don't find it impressive to hear this kind of stuff because to be honest I get the impression that it's a case of someone who wants to hide in a crowd in order to find the courage to be aggressive . It's no shock to anyone that some people attach themselves to football for this purpose, and it's impractical to think we can stop them , but please don't tell me that's the essence of the game ,or of a football club - cause it's NOT.

These threads often mention mindless attacks on people , a particularly dreadful example of which is posted in its own thread currently , and that is exactly where the moronic attitude you advocate can lead , so I want no part of it.

It's a Union Flag, not a Union Jack unless it's flown on a Royal Navy ship.
It's the flag under which countless British soldiers have fought and died , many from both Cardiff and Swansea.

I am trying to keep my response polite and rational, but I can remember some of those who died for it including three of my uncles who were all from Cardiff and some of these comments make me sad and angry in equal measure .

I don't understand and have never understood this pathetic nonsense about Swansea either. They're another football team which happens to be geographically quite near Cardiff, ( bit like Bristol), and all they do is play football as best they can, just like Cardiff. I'm really not sure why anyone should feel offended by that and I certainly don't - I'm much more interested in our club doing its best and succeeding than wishing failure upon other clubs because they happen to be neighbours .

For your information those who engage in Rangers/ Celtic violence are only the local pond life looking for an excuse to stab someone, and this now very diminished problem is not representative of the vast majority of football supporters. Those who make comparisons are talking absolute nonsense because the issues there are very very different and quite complicated, and it's not a situation that anyone in their right minds would want to emulate.

We want them to fail because they are our rivals if you don’t get that then you don’t get football.

Why are they your rivals , and what are they your rivals for ?
They're not even in the same league and it's unlikely we'll play them this season.

Now, in life generally you're better off trying to do your thing properly than wanting your " rivals" , as you put it, to fail, but it's also true in the game of football. Football is about positivity achievement and doing your best and if you think it's there as a vehicle for you to excuse and express your own rather unpleasant inner psychoses , I think you might be the one who is failing to understand the game.

Just to blow your wild wacky one man theory apart.

I do want cardiff to be the best team that they can be.

BUT I also want the Jack bastards to fail.

Why can’t I do both?

Your happy clappy thinking of how football should be is what makes me cringe how could you want to turn up to a stadium that has no passion or atmosphere init.

https://youtu.be/XUoRK5GbBoA

I will just leave that link for you as well if you don’t understand the Cardiff Vs Swansea rivalry.

In fact if you dont understand local derbys then why are you even on a football message board?

Cause it's a football message board not a local derby message board - certainly not a looney view of local derby message board.


I looked at your link and it's a local tv tension building piece, probably to trail coverage of a game. It's very over the top, as these things often are when done by regional stations and an older version of the sort of overblown bullshit trailers we see now for the latest celebrity egg frying contest which they've come up with to reduce the costs of producing real programming.

The fact that you've taken it on board to the extent that it's inflamed you to such very stupid hatred is worrying actually.

Most people who know me certainly don't regard me as "happy clappy", as you put it - far from it in fact, but I've generally tried to reserve any strong actions or positions for those who threaten me or things which are important, not people who are probably very like me and some of whom are certainly very good people just because they happen to live a few miles up the road .

I actually don't find it impressive to hear this kind of stuff because to be honest I get the impression that it's a case of someone who wants to hide in a crowd in order to find the courage to be aggressive . It's no shock to anyone that some people attach themselves to football for this purpose, and it's impractical to think we can stop them , but please don't tell me that's the essence of the game ,or of a football club - cause it's NOT.

These threads often mention mindless attacks on people , a particularly dreadful example of which is posted in its own thread currently , and that is exactly where the moronic attitude you advocate can lead , so I want no part of it.

Why would you have to feel hatred to want them to fail?

Not once have I used the word hatred.

Don’t sit here and wish there stadium exploded on a match day or anything just want them to be shit.

I don’t think you grasp what a rivalry is.

It’s like you only have two emotions. Just because I don’t want to be all buddy buddy with other teams supporters don’t mean I have complete hatred for them.

Just don’t think you get what an atmosphere is either to be honest.

There’s be no noise or singing from away supporters if they weren’t all sat next to each other in the same place nothing to do with fighting don’t know where you even got it from. 2018 there’s no place for scraps at the football an it’s a bit pathetic anyway.

I think you're just trying to distance yourself from what you were suggesting now. You know exactly what you were saying and so do I . Evil deeds are always preceded by evil thoughts , and wishing badness on others who have done you no wrong is unhealthy for the cat- stranglers who sit there thinking them and their potential victims.

When people start expressing these dark obsessions in public, that's usually a danger sign. However , the fact that you are back peddling might mean that you have had a little look in the mirror.

Having a laugh and a joke with other supporters is great fun, but I think you've taken people's sense of humour too literally.

The reason why I'm not being diplomatic on this is because it's potentially very serious when individuals get carried away with such friendly rivalry , even if that's just the result of a limited understanding of events and comments they witness.
As I said previously , there is a separate posting regarding a dreadful crime which happened because someone took sporting rivalry far beyond rational limits, and we should be able to learn from that - one lesson being that when we come across someone talking that way we must challenge and refute it.
Thus I make no apology for having done so .