If Gunner signed on a Free for us

Which is basically what is happening how would we feel, loyalty aside.

-Injury prone
-Best years behind him
-Previously failed in the prem
Not in keeping with our transfer policy of young hungry players.

Which is basically what is happening how would we feel, loyalty aside.

-Injury prone
-Best years behind him
-Previously failed in the prem
Not in keeping with our transfer policy of young hungry players.

How do you know he will be injury prone next season?
How can you say his best years are behind him - he is hardly ancient!
He was as good as any of our other players when we were in the premier league and has now more experience.
You can't have all young hungery players - you need to balance those with experience.
If Neil Warnock wants to reward him with a new contract that's good enough for me! I know there were loads of key moments last season - but one of them was his winner against Notts Forest - he was absolutely immense that day and in a season of fine margins it mattered.

Which is basically what is happening how would we feel, loyalty aside.

-Injury prone
-Best years behind him
-Previously failed in the prem
Not in keeping with our transfer policy of young hungry players.

250 games over 7 seasons..........to me pple like emyr huws and jazz are who id call injury prone
29 years old...
didnt get selected a great deal largly due to us paying 10 million for Medel { doubt he will be nxt year if we get Medel back }
transfer policy..? pretty sure our manager has signed older players and will again..and recently gave a new contract to junior who is a year younger...is the cut off 28 and a half ?

Which is basically what is happening how would we feel, loyalty aside.

-Injury prone
-Best years behind him
-Previously failed in the prem
Not in keeping with our transfer policy of young hungry players.

Is he injury prone?

Having one quite major injury doesn’t make someone injury prone.

Best years not behind him he’s still the right side of 30


I know you don’t like him luke, and to be honest either way I’ll be happy when we all don’t have to talk about him anymore but as mentioned previously I want him to stay

Which is basically what is happening how would we feel, loyalty aside.

-Injury prone
-Best years behind him
-Previously failed in the prem
Not in keeping with our transfer policy of young hungry players.

How do you know he will be injury prone next season?
How can you say his best years are behind him - he is hardly ancient!
He was as good as any of our other players when we were in the premier league and has now more experience.
You can't have all young hungery players - you need to balance those with experience.
If Neil Warnock wants to reward him with a new contract that's good enough for me! I know there were loads of key moments last season - but one of them was his winner against Notts Forest - he was absolutely immense that day and in a season of fine margins it mattered.

THIS^^^

Last season must have been tough for him let alone the world cup.Many people were saying how rejuvenated he was looking under Warnock before he got injured.We do need a player that does alot of donkey work and at his best is as good as we can get for the money.

Football..........Its all about opinions...i think he is too slow for the prem..we have had his best years...i for one wont be fussed if he dont sign

Which is basically what is happening how would we feel, loyalty aside.

-Injury prone
-Best years behind him
-Previously failed in the prem
Not in keeping with our transfer policy of young hungry players.

How do you know he will be injury prone next season?
How can you say his best years are behind him - he is hardly ancient!
He was as good as any of our other players when we were in the premier league and has now more experience.
You can't have all young hungery players - you need to balance those with experience.
If Neil Warnock wants to reward him with a new contract that's good enough for me! I know there were loads of key moments last season - but one of them was his winner against Notts Forest - he was absolutely immense that day and in a season of fine margins it mattered.

Can see most of your points except the best years behind him, name a player that's improved after the age of 29? That's not knocking gunnars but it's clear his best years performance and ability wise are behind him so it is a legit argument.

Which is basically what is happening how would we feel, loyalty aside.

-Injury prone
-Best years behind him
-Previously failed in the prem
Not in keeping with our transfer policy of young hungry players.

How do you know he will be injury prone next season?
How can you say his best years are behind him - he is hardly ancient!
He was as good as any of our other players when we were in the premier league and has now more experience.
You can't have all young hungery players - you need to balance those with experience.
If Neil Warnock wants to reward him with a new contract that's good enough for me! I know there were loads of key moments last season - but one of them was his winner against Notts Forest - he was absolutely immense that day and in a season of fine margins it mattered.

He was as good as any of our other players when we finished bottom and got relegated. Not exactly a big boast is it?

Which is basically what is happening how would we feel, loyalty aside.

-Injury prone
-Best years behind him
-Previously failed in the prem
Not in keeping with our transfer policy of young hungry players.

How do you know he will be injury prone next season?
How can you say his best years are behind him - he is hardly ancient!
He was as good as any of our other players when we were in the premier league and has now more experience.
You can't have all young hungery players - you need to balance those with experience.
If Neil Warnock wants to reward him with a new contract that's good enough for me! I know there were loads of key moments last season - but one of them was his winner against Notts Forest - he was absolutely immense that day and in a season of fine margins it mattered.

He was as good as any of our other players when we finished bottom and got relegated. Not exactly a big boast is it?

Yes but maybe Medel and Mutch aside he was hardly in a team of all the talents, was he?

I want him to stay. On his return from injury he was a little short granted, but he’s 29, is an effective defensive midfielder who if you watch closely, is positionally very aware and marshals the defense behind very well. He covers lots of ground as a CDM. He’s a leader. He scores goals now and then. At 29 he ain’t past it. A re-signing would be a good deal for both parties. Whether he wants that and fancies an easier league in the sun is a different matter. NW has offered a contract so sees him as a player for us, that’s good enough for me. I’m a bit worried we’re light in CM though. Seems like Reid will be used as a no10 by what Neil was saying the other day. So Grujic and Ralls as starters. With pato, Gunnar and damour as backup? I wouldn’t be surprised if we play three at the back (after Cunningham signed - he ain’t warming the bench), with wing backs and 4 in midfield. The wing backs tuck into midfield when not in possession.

One track record this forum has are fans writing off players only for them to go on and get legendary status with us.Some of the crap Hudson used to get on here being just one example.

Some good points however I've not seen anything in 7 years to suggest he the ability to play in the premiership. In fact even if we had stayed down I wouldn't have wanted him to stay.

His injuries are getting more frequent.

He certainly does Marshall the defence around, well waves his arms around usually to cover that he has made a mistake.

One track record this forum has are fans writing off players only for them to go on and get legendary status with us.Some of the crap Hudson used to get on here being just one example.

I agree about Hudson, always supported him myself and I do think our fans judge a lot of our players to quickly. Although after 7 years I think most of us can make a decision on if he is good enough.

not that quick, not that creative or technical. I say it's time now to freshen up and improve the midfield

not that quick, not that creative or technical. I say it's time now to freshen up and improve the midfield

i do agree but we have bought some fast blokes to be quick and some talented blokes to be creative..Gunner is as good as anyone ive seen at this club at stopping the oppositions creative players recieving the ball in dangerous areas.
looks poor on the eye when doing it because to do it well you have to sacrifice your own game , be on the ball less and look less involved.{certainly the way we play with a low pos percentage }
he quite simply has never been picked for his pace or creativety.
our whole game and promotion last season was built on defending well and nullyfying our opponents creativety which isnt just tackling and winning headers..

Which is basically what is happening how would we feel, loyalty aside.

-Injury prone
-Best years behind him
-Previously failed in the prem
Not in keeping with our transfer policy of young hungry players.

How do you know he will be injury prone next season?
How can you say his best years are behind him - he is hardly ancient!
He was as good as any of our other players when we were in the premier league and has now more experience.
You can't have all young hungery players - you need to balance those with experience.
If Neil Warnock wants to reward him with a new contract that's good enough for me! I know there were loads of key moments last season - but one of them was his winner against Notts Forest - he was absolutely immense that day and in a season of fine margins it mattered.

Can see most of your points except the best years behind him, name a player that's improved after the age of 29? That's not knocking gunnars but it's clear his best years performance and ability wise are behind him so it is a legit argument.

let's hope Vardy's best years are behind him and that he won't score against us at the ripe old age of 31.

Hang about be nullified messi Get rid to slow offers fucall.

Hang about be nullified messi Get rid to slow offers fucall.

Darcey Blake marked Rooney out of a game once, get him back

Hang about be nullified messi Get rid to slow offers fucall.

Darcey Blake marked Rooney out of a game once, get him back

Which is basically what is happening how would we feel, loyalty aside.

-Injury prone
-Best years behind him
-Previously failed in the prem
Not in keeping with our transfer policy of young hungry players.

How do you know he will be injury prone next season?
How can you say his best years are behind him - he is hardly ancient!
He was as good as any of our other players when we were in the premier league and has now more experience.
You can't have all young hungery players - you need to balance those with experience.
If Neil Warnock wants to reward him with a new contract that's good enough for me! I know there were loads of key moments last season - but one of them was his winner against Notts Forest - he was absolutely immense that day and in a season of fine margins it mattered.

Can see most of your points except the best years behind him, name a player that's improved after the age of 29? That's not knocking gunnars but it's clear his best years performance and ability wise are behind him so it is a legit argument.

let's hope Vardy's best years are behind him and that he won't score against us at the ripe old age of 31.

Well you've proven my point there so thanks, Vardy was 28 when he won the premiership and player of the year, he's never replicated that form and his value has dropped a few million since.

Which is basically what is happening how would we feel, loyalty aside.

-Injury prone
-Best years behind him
-Previously failed in the prem
Not in keeping with our transfer policy of young hungry players.

How do you know he will be injury prone next season?
How can you say his best years are behind him - he is hardly ancient!
He was as good as any of our other players when we were in the premier league and has now more experience.
You can't have all young hungery players - you need to balance those with experience.
If Neil Warnock wants to reward him with a new contract that's good enough for me! I know there were loads of key moments last season - but one of them was his winner against Notts Forest - he was absolutely immense that day and in a season of fine margins it mattered.

Can see most of your points except the best years behind him, name a player that's improved after the age of 29? That's not knocking gunnars but it's clear his best years performance and ability wise are behind him so it is a legit argument.

let's hope Vardy's best years are behind him and that he won't score against us at the ripe old age of 31.

Well you've proven my point there so thanks, Vardy was 28 when he won the premiership and player of the year, he's never replicated that form and his value has dropped a few million since.

he scored one goal less this season than he did in the league winning season what are you talking about

Gunnarsson prior to his injury last season was immense, after his injury he wasn’t match fit bit still managed to put in 2 or 3 quality performances, but he should not have played so much due his lack of fitness or match sharpness.

A bit of a rest, a good solid pre season and I’d like to keep him, he will be an important player for us. If he goes as he would like a new challenge then fair play to him.

Which is basically what is happening how would we feel, loyalty aside.

-Injury prone
-Best years behind him
-Previously failed in the prem
Not in keeping with our transfer policy of young hungry players.

How do you know he will be injury prone next season?
How can you say his best years are behind him - he is hardly ancient!
He was as good as any of our other players when we were in the premier league and has now more experience.
You can't have all young hungery players - you need to balance those with experience.
If Neil Warnock wants to reward him with a new contract that's good enough for me! I know there were loads of key moments last season - but one of them was his winner against Notts Forest - he was absolutely immense that day and in a season of fine margins it mattered.

Can see most of your points except the best years behind him, name a player that's improved after the age of 29? That's not knocking gunnars but it's clear his best years performance and ability wise are behind him so it is a legit argument.

let's hope Vardy's best years are behind him and that he won't score against us at the ripe old age of 31.

Well you've proven my point there so thanks, Vardy was 28 when he won the premiership and player of the year, he's never replicated that form and his value has dropped a few million since.

Yes, it was a poor show last season. Three players scored more goals than him in the PL, and he only ended up with 20 goals all season. Obviously was way over the top.

Which is basically what is happening how would we feel, loyalty aside.

-Injury prone
-Best years behind him
-Previously failed in the prem
Not in keeping with our transfer policy of young hungry players.

How do you know he will be injury prone next season?
How can you say his best years are behind him - he is hardly ancient!
He was as good as any of our other players when we were in the premier league and has now more experience.
You can't have all young hungery players - you need to balance those with experience.
If Neil Warnock wants to reward him with a new contract that's good enough for me! I know there were loads of key moments last season - but one of them was his winner against Notts Forest - he was absolutely immense that day and in a season of fine margins it mattered.

Can see most of your points except the best years behind him, name a player that's improved after the age of 29? That's not knocking gunnars but it's clear his best years performance and ability wise are behind him so it is a legit argument.

let's hope Vardy's best years are behind him and that he won't score against us at the ripe old age of 31.

Well you've proven my point there so thanks, Vardy was 28 when he won the premiership and player of the year, he's never replicated that form and his value has dropped a few million since.

Yes, it was a poor show last season. Three players scored more goals than him in the PL, and he only ended up with 20 goals all season. Obviously was way over the top.

Not once did I say a poor show.

Your really struggling with my point aren't you.

Vardy isn't the player he was it 28, he hasn't improved past that level he was it when they won the league.

His value has decreased.

My original point was show me a player who improves after 29 you haven't shown me one.

But hey keep twisting it to me knocking carry.

Which is basically what is happening how would we feel, loyalty aside.

-Injury prone
-Best years behind him
-Previously failed in the prem
Not in keeping with our transfer policy of young hungry players.

How do you know he will be injury prone next season?
How can you say his best years are behind him - he is hardly ancient!
He was as good as any of our other players when we were in the premier league and has now more experience.
You can't have all young hungery players - you need to balance those with experience.
If Neil Warnock wants to reward him with a new contract that's good enough for me! I know there were loads of key moments last season - but one of them was his winner against Notts Forest - he was absolutely immense that day and in a season of fine margins it mattered.

Can see most of your points except the best years behind him, name a player that's improved after the age of 29? That's not knocking gunnars but it's clear his best years performance and ability wise are behind him so it is a legit argument.

let's hope Vardy's best years are behind him and that he won't score against us at the ripe old age of 31.

Well you've proven my point there so thanks, Vardy was 28 when he won the premiership and player of the year, he's never replicated that form and his value has dropped a few million since.

Yes, it was a poor show last season. Three players scored more goals than him in the PL, and he only ended up with 20 goals all season. Obviously was way over the top.

Not once did I say a poor show.

Your really struggling with my point aren't you.

Vardy isn't the player he was it 28, he hasn't improved past that level he was it when they won the league.

His value has decreased.

My original point was show me a player who improves after 29 you haven't shown me one.

But hey keep twisting it to me knocking carry.

Not knocking you WP, just disagreeing that a person's best days are behind him at the age of 29. The bulk of his career may be behind, but he can be just as good at 29 as at 23. Ronaldo is 33 I believe, and I would say the last few years have been as good as anything during his career. I would imagine he will find it difficult to maintain that standard for much longer, but his performances at the age of 30 were as good as anything I had seen previously. Messi is the wrong side of 30, and has still been brilliant apart from this WC. I think a lot depends on how you look after yourself. If you take the George Best approach your best days end before you are 25, if you take the Sheringham approach you can still be improving into your 30's.

Hahaha Over 7 years you're making your judgement on are you? Are you serious?

Well in that case it was only a year ago he was our player of the season!! Voted by the fans!! Just in case that doesn't make sense to you that means in a team which included, Bamba, Ralls, Morrison, Hoillet etc. he was voted the best!! He didn't have any serious injuries that season and played most of the games!!

It's not 7 years your judging him on it's 5 games after he came back from a long term injury, which he rushed back to help us!! I hope he doesn't read this board and if he does I hope he appreciates the sheer comedy value of some of the comments!!

Hahaha Over 7 years you're making your judgement on are you? Are you serious?

Well in that case it was only a year ago he was our player of the season!! Voted by the fans!! Just in case that doesn't make sense to you that means in a team which included, Bamba, Ralls, Morrison, Hoillet etc. he was voted the best!! He didn't have any serious injuries that season and played most of the games!!

It's not 7 years your judging him on it's 5 games after he came back from a long term injury, which he rushed back to help us!! I hope he doesn't read this board and if he does I hope he appreciates the sheer comedy value of some of the comments!!

No its 7 years your assumptions are incorrect, infact my my opinion on him has barely changed over the last few years, if you care that much you can search my posts .

Just a reminder that season we finished midtable in the championship, we are now planning on building a squad capable of staying in the premiership, the difference is huge.

I've always been a fan of Gunnars. He's really our captain on the field. If you watch him closely you realise how much advice and help he gives to others. He was seriously impaired by the injury last season, but to say his best years are behind him is daft. He could have another five years playing.
As to pace, if he were to operate as a holding player I don't think he'd need to go forward much. He's a good reader of the game as well.

Which is basically what is happening how would we feel, loyalty aside.

-Injury prone
-Best years behind him
-Previously failed in the prem
Not in keeping with our transfer policy of young hungry players.

Is he injury prone?

Having one quite major injury doesn’t make someone injury prone.

Best years not behind him he’s still the right side of 30




I know you don’t like him luke, and to be honest either way I’ll be happy when we all don’t have to talk about him anymore but as mentioned previously I want him to stay

Injured most of the season, came back and injured again, I think he is past his best, and we should look for better alternatives!

Hahaha Over 7 years you're making your judgement on are you? Are you serious?

Well in that case it was only a year ago he was our player of the season!! Voted by the fans!! Just in case that doesn't make sense to you that means in a team which included, Bamba, Ralls, Morrison, Hoillet etc. he was voted the best!! He didn't have any serious injuries that season and played most of the games!!

It's not 7 years your judging him on it's 5 games after he came back from a long term injury, which he rushed back to help us!! I hope he doesn't read this board and if he does I hope he appreciates the sheer comedy value of some of the comments!!

No its 7 years your assumptions are incorrect, infact my my opinion on him has barely changed over the last few years, if you care that much you can search my posts .

Just a reminder that season we finished midtable in the championship, we are now planning on building a squad capable of staying in the premiership, the difference is huge.

I think you've just backed up my argument that some of our fans have personal dislikes against him. It must have really annoyed you when he did win player of the year and scored that goal against Forest!!! I bet you didn't quite cheer as load as everyone else around you when the ball hit the net!! It is so hilarious being a fellow city fan and seeing some people rip into Whits because he wouldn't get stuck in and tackle, even though he had brilliant natural ability. Then you see some people rip into Gunner for apparently not having Whits ability but is a brilliant leader good in the tackle etc. Don't people realise we are Cardiff City and not Man City. If Gunner could pass the ball like Pirlo, had the pace of Bale and a shot like Ronaldo, do you think he would be playing at the CCS giving his all for the bluebirds!!!

One last thing, if you're going to belittle someone's achievement of wining an award for our club, then please at least get your facts straight. If you only took the points from when Warnock took over that season we would have made the play offs.

You're right we did finish mid-table but we were 10 points from safety when Warnock took over. To finish so comfortable was a minor miracle and the driving force behind that season was Bamba, Harris, Zohore and mainly Gunner. Before you talk a load of Trollope and blame Gunner for the poor start to that season, I think we all know where the blame lies!!

Hahaha Over 7 years you're making your judgement on are you? Are you serious?

Well in that case it was only a year ago he was our player of the season!! Voted by the fans!! Just in case that doesn't make sense to you that means in a team which included, Bamba, Ralls, Morrison, Hoillet etc. he was voted the best!! He didn't have any serious injuries that season and played most of the games!!

It's not 7 years your judging him on it's 5 games after he came back from a long term injury, which he rushed back to help us!! I hope he doesn't read this board and if he does I hope he appreciates the sheer comedy value of some of the comments!!

No its 7 years your assumptions are incorrect, infact my my opinion on him has barely changed over the last few years, if you care that much you can search my posts .

Just a reminder that season we finished midtable in the championship, we are now planning on building a squad capable of staying in the premiership, the difference is huge.

I think you've just backed up my argument that some of our fans have personal dislikes against him. It must have really annoyed you when he did win player of the year and scored that goal against Forest!!! I bet you didn't quite cheer as load as everyone else around you when the ball hit the net!! It is so hilarious being a fellow city fan and seeing some people rip into Whits because he wouldn't get stuck in and tackle, even though he had brilliant natural ability. Then you see some people rip into Gunner for apparently not having Whits ability but is a brilliant leader good in the tackle etc. Don't people realise we are Cardiff City and not Man City. If Gunner could pass the ball like Pirlo, had the pace of Bale and a shot like Ronaldo, do you think he would be playing at the CCS giving his all for the bluebirds!!!

One last thing, if you're going to belittle someone's achievement of wining an award for our club, then please at least get your facts straight. If you only took the points from when Warnock took over that season we would have made the play offs.

You're right we did finish mid-table but we were 10 points from safety when Warnock took over. To finish so comfortable was a minor miracle and the driving force behind that season was Bamba, Harris, Zohore and mainly Gunner. Before you talk a load of Trollope and blame Gunner for the poor start to that season, I think we all know where the blame lies!!

Do you cheer extra loud for him because of your man crush

Your talking complete rubbish of course going from one extreme to another, seriously what is this Pirlo, Bale nonsense. I have no dislike for him at all, I don't rate him as highly as you clearly do but that's my opinion. I think we need a lot better in the premiership than him. I don't see anything in his game to suggest he has improved since the last time we were in the Premiership some years ago. I'm sorry if that upsets you