POLL ON VAR

As a football fan what do you think about VAR

As a football fan what do you think about VAR

the second half of the Portugal game is about as low as i can imagine feeling about something i care about...

you can tell how poor it has been by how excited its supporters have been the last 2 days because it got 2 correct decisions that Mr Magoo could have seen

Var is no better than a ref it doesnt eliminate mistakes so why have it?

The poling options for it to stay are split into 2 - but so far 58% want VAR

VAR is a good thing. A couple of tweaks and wil be a huge help to ref.
They need yo talk to rugby and just use it for some tbings. Not everything

The poling options for it to stay are split into 2 - but so far 58% want VAR

not sure thats accurate
option 3 is CHANGED to address major errors..thats what it is now ?

I chose the middle option.

Get used to it.

Wasn’t sure at first, but now a big fan of VAR - in the way it’s being used.

Ultimately VAR will imho get more right than wrong. I understand what people say about the pace of the game. But we scream at the tv or ref when we are legitimately cheated out of something. There is a very real chance Germany would still be in the WC if VAR did not exist. Hat first goal meant they had to push forward and send the keeper up. That left an open goal.

It will change things for sure. But hopefully it will make the game fairer especially in a day and age where there are best sums of money at stake.

VAR is a good thing. A couple of tweaks and wil be a huge help to ref.
They need yo talk to rugby and just use it for some tbings. Not everything

Rugby is expanding tmo from goaline incidents to what happened 1 or 2 mins earlier in the passage of play leading up to try? Forward pass knock ons ect ect var will go same way no doubt as how many times has there been an incident leading upto a goal thats contencious like a foul hanball ?

The poling options for it to stay are split into 2 - but so far 58% want VAR

not sure thats accurate
option 3 is CHANGED to address major errors..thats what it is now ?

Yeah so translated that's "I want it, but when it's improved"

Poll still showing most fans in favor...

VAR will always get more decisions right than the referee that's obvious. The problem with VAR is it will radically change the way the game is played and watched.
1- there will be more calls for it to be extended to cover other areas. This will result in a stop start game.
2- Players will increasingly be playing for penalties. In the last few years referees have become increasingly reluctant to penalise players for minor infringements in the box realising- at long last- that a forward tumbling over in the box may not have dived but nevertheless made the most of a clumsy challenge. "Had the right to go down" is the phrase I believe.
Players have long cottoned on to the fact that its easier to win a penalty than to actually put the ball in the net and I feel that VAR will make this worse. Increasingly we will see these types of challenges referred to VAR.
3- Never again will that thrill of a last minute winner be quite the same. We will all be anxiously waiting to see if its been disallowed because someone in the VAR box noted a foul 30 seconds ago.

What we are trading in is the excitement of live football for a sterile, penalty dominated new game, which gets all the major decisions right but is no longer the game I want to watch .

VAR will always get more decisions right than the referee that's obvious. The problem with VAR is it will radically change the way the game is played and watched.
1- there will be more calls for it to be extended to cover other areas. This will result in a stop start game.
2- Players will increasingly be playing for penalties. In the last few years referees have become increasingly reluctant to penalise players for minor infringements in the box realising- at long last- that a forward tumbling over in the box may not have dived but nevertheless made the most of a clumsy challenge. "Had the right to go down" is the phrase I believe.
Players have long cottoned on to the fact that its easier to win a penalty than to actually put the ball in the net and I feel that VAR will make this worse. Increasingly we will see these types of challenges referred to VAR.
3- Never again will that thrill of a last minute winner be quite the same. We will all be anxiously waiting to see if its been disallowed because someone in the VAR box noted a foul 30 seconds ago.

What we are trading in is the excitement of live football for a sterile, penalty dominated new game, which gets all the major decisions right but is no longer the game I want to watch .

Spot on and will go way of tmo in rugby by looking at possible foul ect in build up to a goal

Needs refining, some of the decisions this World Cup have been poor. Think it’s been more of a success than a failure so far though.

Needs refining, some of the decisions this World Cup have been poor. Think it’s been more of a success than a failure so far though.

How do you judge success? Fact its given 20 odd pens but only 2 of them been errors by refs? Its failed to stop rugby tackling in area failed to know what is accidental hardball ? Whats laughable is pundits saying its great as it gets decisions right but at end day its the ref who is suppose to make decisions not var! All its doing is undermining officials

Option No.1 for me...

Football on the terraces has been sanitised and now they're going after football on the pitch!

I've seen some changes in the World Cup that look to be positive but little by little the game as we knew it will be eroded and turned into some kind of NFL replica (time-outs, attacking teams, defending teams, TV commercial breaks every 5 minutes, etc., etc.)

It's already changed too much (not allowed to tackle, not allowed to break wind near the keeper, etc., etc.) and VAR will only make it worse as a spectacle

Horrible and all will depend on whether it works for or against your team!

Var is no better than a ref it doesnt eliminate mistakes so why have it?

The Germany game the other night was as good a reason as any to have var. plus we never want another hand of god

Var is no better than a ref it doesnt eliminate mistakes so why have it?

The Germany game the other night was as good a reason as any to have var. plus we never want another hand of god

Is it though what about when it failed to see incident like Kane and others? Yes var helps simple things like offside but then its seeing things only because its using super slow motion and 26 different angles? In this tournament its totally undermining refs as seen in the ammount of pens given even though there's only been 3 obvious mistakes made 21 decisions have been reversed are refs that wrong?.

Var is no better than a ref it doesnt eliminate mistakes so why have it?

The Germany game the other night was as good a reason as any to have var. plus we never want another hand of god

Is it though what about when it failed to see incident like Kane and others? Yes var helps simple things like offside but then its seeing things only because its using super slow motion and 26 different angles? In this tournament its totally undermining refs as seen in the ammount of pens given even though there's only been 3 obvious mistakes made 21 decisions have been reversed are refs that wrong?.

I can’t disagree with you, I’m 50/50 at the moment.

Var is no better than a ref it doesnt eliminate mistakes so why have it?

The Germany game the other night was as good a reason as any to have var. plus we never want another hand of god

Is it though what about when it failed to see incident like Kane and others? Yes var helps simple things like offside but then its seeing things only because its using super slow motion and 26 different angles? In this tournament its totally undermining refs as seen in the ammount of pens given even though there's only been 3 obvious mistakes made 21 decisions have been reversed are refs that wrong?.

I can’t disagree with you, I’m 50/50 at the moment.

Thanks! my problem with var is football is about debatable decisions for or against you
Yes there are very bad decisions but as seen var doesnt stop that it just gives more pens when not pens And it totally disrupts game can you imagine the scenes at our game with wolves in those last 3 mins! And as said before where will it end? Tmk already expanded to look at incidents leading upto a try will footy do same ?

The poling options for it to stay are split into 2 - but so far 58% want VAR

not sure thats accurate
option 3 is CHANGED to address major errors..thats what it is now ?

Yeah so translated that's "I want it, but when it's improved"

Poll still showing most fans in favor...

or..i dont want it unless its improved..which of course is impossible because it will always come down to interpretation of incidents...these VAR blokes and the refs were not trying to be poor, they were doing their best and they havent just been pulled off the street either, they have been well trained and have the best equipment available..but invariably 2 people looking at the same incident will come to different conclusions.

Its good in principle but the part I find ridiculous is the referee dramatically running over to the TV to seemingly change his own decision. If there are people in a studio telling him hes wrong then why cant they just overrule it without all the drama.

Facts are that referees get 95% of decisions correct but with VAR it’s 99.3%,and it’s still being refined as goal line technology (100%) was? So VAR is coming to the game,get used to it! As an ex referee, they need all the help they can get to make the correct decision!

Facts are that referees get 95% of decisions correct but with VAR it’s 99.3%,and it’s still being refined as goal line technology (100%) was? So VAR is coming to the game,get used to it! As an ex referee, they need all the help they can get to make the correct decision!

great stats...who on earth came up with those has to be the question..these satats are not based on fact but based on opinion....so many incidents which could be given either way yet someone or some group think they are the ultimate authority on correctness..if a group id bet my house that most of these contentious decisions deemed correct were done so by majority and were not unanimous.
im sure you have seen both Ref and VAR decisions you do not agree with that another ex or current ref would disagree with you over..?

Facts are that referees get 95% of decisions correct but with VAR it’s 99.3%,and it’s still being refined as goal line technology (100%) was? So VAR is coming to the game,get used to it! As an ex referee, they need all the help they can get to make the correct decision!

great stats...who on earth came up with those has to be the question..these satats are not based on fact but based on opinion....so many incidents which could be given either way yet someone or some group think they are the ultimate authority on correctness..if a group id bet my house that most of these contentious decisions deemed correct were done so by majority and were not unanimous.
im sure you have seen both Ref and VAR decisions you do not agree with that another ex or current ref would disagree with you over..?

Great stats how did they determine when ref was wrong? because from what I've seen var as only corrected 4/5 mistakes by refs, presume thats where 99.3% comes from?
all the other decisions ref as seen incident said no pen just like normal games! all var as done is to undermine refs decision making if peole want that than fine but not for me.

Facts are that referees get 95% of decisions correct but with VAR it’s 99.3%,and it’s still being refined as goal line technology (100%) was? So VAR is coming to the game,get used to it! As an ex referee, they need all the help they can get to make the correct decision!

great stats...who on earth came up with those has to be the question..these satats are not based on fact but based on opinion....so many incidents which could be given either way yet someone or some group think they are the ultimate authority on correctness..if a group id bet my house that most of these contentious decisions deemed correct were done so by majority and were not unanimous.
im sure you have seen both Ref and VAR decisions you do not agree with that another ex or current ref would disagree with you over..?

Great stats how did they determine when ref was wrong? because from what I've seen var as only corrected 4/5 mistakes by refs, presume thats where 99.3% comes from?
all the other decisions ref as seen incident said no pen just like normal games! all var as done is to undermine refs decision making if peole want that than fine but not for me.

Ps 100% is not achievable unless var takes over completely the decision making? But as we've seen var does get it wrong so whats the difference if ref gets occasional decision wrong! Do fans want var to completely make all decisions doubt it.

99.3% decisions correct by VAR, Official figure from FIFA,as I said facts not my guess! They will improve on this as they get more experience in using VAR?

99.3% decisions correct by VAR, Official figure from FIFA,as I said facts not my guess! They will improve on this as they get more experience in using VAR?

Yes this world cup but no prior to it though! 95% was used by fifa using euro league stats! Are you saying that var will be 100% correct in future? How is that possible when it as already shown that it is open to interpretation by refs and refs have sided against var ? What experience do they need they use top equipment top officials to revue incidents and still refs dont agree with var so whos wrong ref or var? And you havnt answered the point at theres been 20 odd pens only 3 been deemed as errors by ref but you are using fact that refs have changed minds as evidence var got it right and ref didn't when all incidents are open to interpretation, So you are in favour of var being the ref anf ref just blows his whistle to start game and at half-time? Because thats where it will end

99.3% decisions correct by VAR, Official figure from FIFA,as I said facts not my guess! They will improve on this as they get more experience in using VAR?

OFFICIAL doesnt mean correct........ill say it again...you ,i ,gary flamming linaker..coloccini and infantino have all seen decisions given that could be argued either way..????????...so we will just call all these either way decisions correct eh .if its hand ball and a pen TICK.CORRECT DECISION..if the exact same incident is deemed not deliberate so play on ..TICK..CORRECT..
yes its a FACT that they are the official figures...but not a FACT that they are accurate..how stupid do they thgink pple are?

As a football fan what do you think about VAR

The use of VAR so far has provided both positive and negative outcomes.

The pluses are obvious where the wrong or missed decision has been corrected and the negatives basically revolve around when should officials actually call for the use of VAR?

Whilst we will never get everything 100% right; I am in favour of any technology which moves us towards the correct refereeing decision on key events in a match - with so much money potentially riding on one key decision in a game and the kind of horrendous refereeing decisions that have been seen over the years - we need to take the "split-second" opinion of a single person out of the game as regards key decisions as much as possible (believe it or not, refs are human beings and not machines!!) and we therefore need VAR in the modern game but it needs to be applied in a more effective way.

Many officials have never played the game at professional level and are therefore unaware of lots of the little "tricks" employed by professional footballers to get key decisions in their favour and those occasions where officials have been "unsighted" on key incidents occur all too often. Surely the way forward is to take the decision as to whether VAR should be used away from officials and give it to each team captain? Why not for example give each team captain say 3 challenges in a game to have an incident checked with VAR with a request only able to be made by the captain to the ref when the ball is next out of play - when his 3 challenges are used the captain has no further challenges and the ref's decision is then final as far as that team is concerned.

It would also help if large VAR replay screens could be erected at all 92 league grounds to involve the fans in each VAR replay. Possibly, a proportion of the Sky TV money could be ringfenced to assist lower league clubs to have this technology installed?

Just MHO.

As a football fan what do you think about VAR

The use of VAR so far has provided both positive and negative outcomes.

The pluses are obvious where the wrong or missed decision has been corrected and the negatives basically revolve around when should officials actually call for the use of VAR?

Whilst we will never get everything 100% right; I am in favour of any technology which moves us towards the correct refereeing decision on key events in a match - with so much money potentially riding on one key decision in a game and the kind of horrendous refereeing decisions that have been seen over the years - we need to take the "split-second" opinion of a single person out of the game as regards key decisions as much as possible (believe it or not, refs are human beings and not machines!!) and we therefore need VAR in the modern game but it needs to be applied in a more effective way.

Many officials have never played the game at professional level and are therefore unaware of lots of the little "tricks" employed by professional footballers to get key decisions in their favour and those occasions where officials have been "unsighted" on key incidents occur all too often. Surely the way forward is to take the decision as to whether VAR should be used away from officials and give it to each team captain? Why not for example give each team captain say 3 challenges in a game to have an incident checked with VAR with a request only able to be made by the captain to the ref when the ball is next out of play - when his 3 challenges are used the captain has no further challenges and the ref's decision is then final as far as that team is concerned.

It would also help if large VAR replay screens could be erected at all 92 league grounds to involve the fans in each VAR replay. Possibly, a proportion of the Sky TV money could be ringfenced to assist lower league clubs to have this technology installed?

Just MHO.




Var can never be used in anything other than premiership otherwise it will take 66 different centres plus 66 official's to monitor games in other 3 leagues its just not practical.
What's wrong with var is its checkng every single event thats not what var is for! Its for obvious mistakes of which theres been 4 so far? We got the situation of ref standing 3 yds from incident with ref saying no foul yet var tells him to review it why is ref blind Or doesnt he know what a foul is? Var doesn't even know what accidental handball is!! Yes var can help but the ammount of times it does is not worth the controversy it causes or the obvious direction it will go ( make every decision for ref)