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' NEIL WARNOCK ACCEPTS LIMITED BUDGET FROM TAN '

Wed May 30, 2018 1:00 pm

My View: Neil Warnock had one of the lowest budgets in the Championship, in fact 16th and Warnock got us promoted(2nd) :thumbright: I believe Warnock will keep us up and no matter if we are on any bad run next season, fans must back Warnock all the way through good and bad times as Warnock thrives on fans backing him :thumbright: :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird:





NEIL WARNOCK & VINCENT TAN HAVE DISCUSSED NEW PLAYERS FOR THE PREMIER LEAGUE :bluebird:



Neil Warnock, accepts his budget will be limited this summer, but has been satisfied with the talks and owner Tan is understood to be happy with the Yorkshireman's planned recruitment.

Vincent Tan has talked through the budget he has offered Warnock and it is believed Warnock has accepted that the budget for the Premier League won't be as big as many would of thought and is one of the lowest for Premier League Clubs, but Warnock is ready to work with it knowing a number of players will also need to leave City to make way if Warnock wants more than the budget provides.

The Cardiff boss wants five or six players to supplement his current squad and is set to once again utilise the loan and free transfer market. The likes of Salomon Rondon — linked with the Bluebirds in media reports — could be out of reach because of budget restraints.

Vincent Tan is keen to avoid a repeat of the summer of 2013 when the Bluebirds spent a few big fees.


This time Neil Warnock wants mainly British-based experienced players with the aim of defying the odds and keeping Cardiff in the top flight.
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Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK ACCEPTS LIMITED BUDGET FROM TAN '

Wed May 30, 2018 1:21 pm

Could go all of two ways .. we either sink or swim, Tan is playing a risky game with this budget lark, at least give Warnock funds to buy some quality cause I believe we lack quality and without it we will be exposed next season

Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK ACCEPTS LIMITED BUDGET FROM TAN '

Wed May 30, 2018 1:28 pm

Maybe they are putting the financial future before spending big ,Burnley done it and look at them now

Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK ACCEPTS LIMITED BUDGET FROM TAN '

Wed May 30, 2018 1:34 pm

I think Tan needs an injection of realism here. It's no good him pocketing the bulk of the £200m largesse he's been given otherwise he'll be back to square one before he knows it. Premier fees and wages are what they are and there's not much can be done about it. Even if he spends around £50m we will be feeding off scraps and he'll still have around £150m to pocket.

I hope all this talk by Warnock is bluster to put the vultures off and not some wild fantasy of Roy of the Rovers stuff on a shoestring budget.

Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK ACCEPTS LIMITED BUDGET FROM TAN '

Wed May 30, 2018 1:35 pm

I would prefer a lower budget to build the club. Yes me might go down but do it right we will likely bounce right back up for a 9th promotion for warnock....

Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK ACCEPTS LIMITED BUDGET FROM TAN '

Wed May 30, 2018 1:41 pm

Lot of players at the club, had none or limited input this season. Warnock needs to move these players on, to free up extra funds. I’m referring to the likes of O’Keefe, Kennedy, Meite, Healey, Camp, Murphy, Harris, Connolly. Their wages could be used to at least bring in some loanees.

Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK ACCEPTS LIMITED BUDGET FROM TAN '

Wed May 30, 2018 1:48 pm

I think our budget might be more than we think

Tan obviously trusts Warnock so let’s see what happens

Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK ACCEPTS LIMITED BUDGET FROM TAN '

Wed May 30, 2018 1:48 pm

boyo1927 wrote:I would prefer a lower budget to build the club. Yes me might go down but do it right we will likely bounce right back up for a 9th promotion for warnock....


There is so such thing as bouncing right back up from the Championship. It’s the hardest Division to get out of and going straight back up is rare (e.g. Newcastle).

If you work so hard to get there why not give it a go instead of being relegated straight back down. With very little investment the writing is on the wall. Neil Warnock however good a manager he is cannot do the impossible I.e. compete against established teams that have been in the Premiership year after year. There are only a small pool of clubs that realistically we have a chance of finishing above and even those clubs are strengthening on what they had last year.

I for one who waited so long to see Premiership football do not want to get relegated at the first time of asking again.

Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK ACCEPTS LIMITED BUDGET FROM TAN '

Wed May 30, 2018 2:00 pm

City Slicker wrote:I think Tan needs an injection of realism here. It's no good him pocketing the bulk of the £200m largesse he's been given otherwise he'll be back to square one before he knows it. Premier fees and wages are what they are and there's not much can be done about it. Even if he spends around £50m we will be feeding off scraps and he'll still have around £150m to pocket.

I hope all this talk by Warnock is bluster to put the vultures off and not some wild fantasy of Roy of the Rovers stuff on a shoestring budget.

To be fair mate, he’s been keeping the club afloat for the last 3 years so I’ve no complaints if he ‘pockets’ the cash - particularly if he turns debt to equity as promised.
Whatever happens, it has to be a better experience than last time we were in the Prem....and we’re in blue!! :bluescarf:

Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK ACCEPTS LIMITED BUDGET FROM TAN '

Wed May 30, 2018 2:07 pm

I don’t think Murphy is a drain he isn’t costing much. He’s a decent back up and appears to be a positive influence around the squad. He’s a decent 3rd choice for us as a keeper and can help being a good example to younger keepers

Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK ACCEPTS LIMITED BUDGET FROM TAN '

Wed May 30, 2018 2:12 pm

Even if we were going to spend loads (I don't think we are) it's best to say what Tan is saying as the prices won't be too inflated

Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK ACCEPTS LIMITED BUDGET FROM TAN '

Wed May 30, 2018 2:22 pm

trotskie wrote:Even if we were going to spend loads (I don't think we are) it's best to say what Tan is saying as the prices won't be too inflated

Exactly. Don't want to go out saying we have £100 mill to spend and everyone's price doubles and players start asking for 60-70k a week.

Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK ACCEPTS LIMITED BUDGET FROM TAN '

Wed May 30, 2018 2:29 pm

With TV money at £100 million we could gross in the region of £130 million next season. As our running costs are currently in the region of £40 million that still leaves £90 million to play with and still break even. £40 million for transfers to bring in five new players and say max of £15 million to cover their wages and that of the odd loan player will still leave plenty over to fund the inevitable rise in wages of current players and still make a profit of £10 to £20 million. This will give us a fighting chance of making an impact. However should go down we will have sufficient reserves along with the parachute payment to be in a strong position to mount another challenge.

Anything less and its an indication that Tan wants his money back asap.

Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK ACCEPTS LIMITED BUDGET FROM TAN '

Wed May 30, 2018 2:35 pm

bridgendbluebird30 wrote:
boyo1927 wrote:I would prefer a lower budget to build the club. Yes me might go down but do it right we will likely bounce right back up for a 9th promotion for warnock....


There is so such thing as bouncing right back up from the Championship. It’s the hardest Division to get out of and going straight back up is rare (e.g. Newcastle).

If you work so hard to get there why not give it a go instead of being relegated straight back down. With very little investment the writing is on the wall. Neil Warnock however good a manager he is cannot do the impossible I.e. compete against established teams that have been in the Premiership year after year. There are only a small pool of clubs that realistically we have a chance of finishing above and even those clubs are strengthening on what they had last year.

I for one who waited so long to see Premiership football do not want to get relegated at the first time of asking again.
boyo1927 wrote:I would prefer a lower budget to build the club. Yes me might go down but do it right we will likely bounce right back up for a 9th promotion for warnock....



Spot on, history shows that very few Clubs bounce straight back up, I did look at it not long back and I think only 3 out of the last 18 teams relegated have managed it.

Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK ACCEPTS LIMITED BUDGET FROM TAN '

Wed May 30, 2018 2:45 pm

Don't mind us been towards the bottom end of the table but at least either give a resonable ammount of funds so we can give it a good go but really don' t want to see us getting thrashed every because of such a tight restriction on funds we are supposedly gaining 180 million and if we stay up 280 million so i cannot see why we would have such a low budget mr tan could recoup quite a bit and give us a better budget and sell if he just wants out, plain and simple no club can manage in the top league in the world on a shoestring i know we don't have an exact figure on funds but 10 million buys us 2 gary madine's

Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK ACCEPTS LIMITED BUDGET FROM TAN '

Wed May 30, 2018 2:54 pm

oohahhPaulMillar wrote:I think our budget might be more than we think

Tan obviously trusts Warnock so let’s see what happens



Agreed, we will have a decent budget, keep under the radar like last season, quietly buy some quality while the other teams don't expect it :thumbup:

Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK ACCEPTS LIMITED BUDGET FROM TAN '

Wed May 30, 2018 3:11 pm

Agreed with above, tan made the mistake of saying he was going to spend big the 1st time we went up. Play it down, keep business out of the spotlight to ensure value.

Otherwise mouth off and end up paying £9m for Flint - See Fulham owner!!

Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK ACCEPTS LIMITED BUDGET FROM TAN '

Wed May 30, 2018 3:14 pm

JJ1927 wrote:With TV money at £100 million we could gross in the region of £130 million next season. As our running costs are currently in the region of £40 million that still leaves £90 million to play with and still break even. £40 million for transfers to bring in five new players and say max of £15 million to cover their wages and that of the odd loan player will still leave plenty over to fund the inevitable rise in wages of current players and still make a profit of £10 to £20 million. This will give us a fighting chance of making an impact. However should go down we will have sufficient reserves along with the parachute payment to be in a strong position to mount another challenge.

Anything less and its an indication that Tan wants his money back asap.



Probably does want his money back asap why not you would? If we are not bottom of spending league means we have reasonable budget but last thing want is to say how much which will hike up prices to us. Only time will tell if it's enough by quality of players brought in . :thumbup:

Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK ACCEPTS LIMITED BUDGET FROM TAN '

Wed May 30, 2018 3:15 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
City Slicker wrote:I think Tan needs an injection of realism here. It's no good him pocketing the bulk of the £200m largesse he's been given otherwise he'll be back to square one before he knows it. Premier fees and wages are what they are and there's not much can be done about it. Even if he spends around £50m we will be feeding off scraps and he'll still have around £150m to pocket.

I hope all this talk by Warnock is bluster to put the vultures off and not some wild fantasy of Roy of the Rovers stuff on a shoestring budget.

To be fair mate, he’s been keeping the club afloat for the last 3 years so I’ve no complaints if he ‘pockets’ the cash - particularly if he turns debt to equity as promised.
Whatever happens, it has to be a better experience than last time we were in the Prem....and we’re in blue!! :bluescarf:


He's already got a billion, that should be more than enough to keep him happy! Id be sorted with that, me!

Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK ACCEPTS LIMITED BUDGET FROM TAN '

Wed May 30, 2018 3:17 pm

They key line to pick out is the fact that’s a Warnock “is satisfied” with budget discussion with Tan. If it was piss poor he would have walked away with frustration. The fact he is staying and having a go pleases me. Also, let’s be fair to Tan - he quite rightly said certain player need to be moved on if they aren’t offering to the 25 man squad. Although I’m checking the news about twenty times a day, getting itchy over Hoilett saga and slow transfer policy - we got to go with Warnock’s sentiment and just enjoy it! Premier League, wearing blue and a full 33,500 stadium for a year to come! Bloody amazing!

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Wed May 30, 2018 3:22 pm

JJ1927 wrote:With TV money at £100 million we could gross in the region of £130 million next season. As our running costs are currently in the region of £40 million that still leaves £90 million to play with and still break even. £40 million for transfers to bring in five new players and say max of £15 million to cover their wages and that of the odd loan player will still leave plenty over to fund the inevitable rise in wages of current players and still make a profit of £10 to £20 million. This will give us a fighting chance of making an impact. However should go down we will have sufficient reserves along with the parachute payment to be in a strong position to mount another challenge.

Anything less and its an indication that Tan wants his money back asap.


What happens with relegation and potential massive earners again?

Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK ACCEPTS LIMITED BUDGET FROM TAN '

Wed May 30, 2018 3:30 pm

https://www.premierleague.com/transfers/summer/2017#!

Might be of interest to some. Just look at what the likes of Huddersfield and Newcastle etc spent. Small budget and smart loans can work out better than the likes of Everton or West Ham spending a small fortune and finding themselves at the wrong end of the table.

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Wed May 30, 2018 3:39 pm

FloridaBluebird wrote:https://www.premierleague.com/transfers/summer/2017#!

Might be of interest to some. Just look at what the likes of Huddersfield and Newcastle etc spent. Small budget and smart loans can work out better than the likes of Everton or West Ham spending a small fortune and finding themselves at the wrong end of the table.


I'm fancying Patrick Roberts :thumbright:

Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK ACCEPTS LIMITED BUDGET FROM TAN '

Wed May 30, 2018 3:49 pm

That WoL article is just filler, no one knows what his budget is outside of a small group of directors/staff. That is entirely how it should be. WoL have nothing out of the meeting but need to generate traffic on their site, so just rehash yesterdays news about Neil going to Malaysia and talking money.

Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK ACCEPTS LIMITED BUDGET FROM TAN '

Wed May 30, 2018 4:13 pm

City Slicker wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
City Slicker wrote:I think Tan needs an injection of realism here. It's no good him pocketing the bulk of the £200m largesse he's been given otherwise he'll be back to square one before he knows it. Premier fees and wages are what they are and there's not much can be done about it. Even if he spends around £50m we will be feeding off scraps and he'll still have around £150m to pocket.

I hope all this talk by Warnock is bluster to put the vultures off and not some wild fantasy of Roy of the Rovers stuff on a shoestring budget.

To be fair mate, he’s been keeping the club afloat for the last 3 years so I’ve no complaints if he ‘pockets’ the cash - particularly if he turns debt to equity as promised.
Whatever happens, it has to be a better experience than last time we were in the Prem....and we’re in blue!! :bluescarf:


He's already got a billion, that should be more than enough to keep him happy! Id be sorted with that, me!

sorry mate I think your view on Tans money a bit unbalanced

Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK ACCEPTS LIMITED BUDGET FROM TAN '

Wed May 30, 2018 4:14 pm

City Slicker wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
City Slicker wrote:I think Tan needs an injection of realism here. It's no good him pocketing the bulk of the £200m largesse he's been given otherwise he'll be back to square one before he knows it. Premier fees and wages are what they are and there's not much can be done about it. Even if he spends around £50m we will be feeding off scraps and he'll still have around £150m to pocket.

I hope all this talk by Warnock is bluster to put the vultures off and not some wild fantasy of Roy of the Rovers stuff on a shoestring budget.

To be fair mate, he’s been keeping the club afloat for the last 3 years so I’ve no complaints if he ‘pockets’ the cash - particularly if he turns debt to equity as promised.
Whatever happens, it has to be a better experience than last time we were in the Prem....and we’re in blue!! :bluescarf:


He's already got a billion, that should be more than enough to keep him happy! Id be sorted with that, me!

:lol: good point. He got to £1BN by being good in business I’m sure

Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK ACCEPTS LIMITED BUDGET FROM TAN '

Wed May 30, 2018 4:18 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
City Slicker wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
City Slicker wrote:I think Tan needs an injection of realism here. It's no good him pocketing the bulk of the £200m largesse he's been given otherwise he'll be back to square one before he knows it. Premier fees and wages are what they are and there's not much can be done about it. Even if he spends around £50m we will be feeding off scraps and he'll still have around £150m to pocket.

I hope all this talk by Warnock is bluster to put the vultures off and not some wild fantasy of Roy of the Rovers stuff on a shoestring budget.

To be fair mate, he’s been keeping the club afloat for the last 3 years so I’ve no complaints if he ‘pockets’ the cash - particularly if he turns debt to equity as promised.
Whatever happens, it has to be a better experience than last time we were in the Prem....and we’re in blue!! :bluescarf:


He's already got a billion, that should be more than enough to keep him happy! Id be sorted with that, me!

:lol: good point. He got to £1BN by being good in business I’m sure


Of course luck is always a prerequisite I'm sure you'll agree :thumbup:

Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK ACCEPTS LIMITED BUDGET FROM TAN '

Wed May 30, 2018 4:19 pm

Carlossus wrote:
City Slicker wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
City Slicker wrote:I think Tan needs an injection of realism here. It's no good him pocketing the bulk of the £200m largesse he's been given otherwise he'll be back to square one before he knows it. Premier fees and wages are what they are and there's not much can be done about it. Even if he spends around £50m we will be feeding off scraps and he'll still have around £150m to pocket.

I hope all this talk by Warnock is bluster to put the vultures off and not some wild fantasy of Roy of the Rovers stuff on a shoestring budget.

To be fair mate, he’s been keeping the club afloat for the last 3 years so I’ve no complaints if he ‘pockets’ the cash - particularly if he turns debt to equity as promised.
Whatever happens, it has to be a better experience than last time we were in the Prem....and we’re in blue!! :bluescarf:


He's already got a billion, that should be more than enough to keep him happy! Id be sorted with that, me!

sorry mate I think your view on Tans money a bit unbalanced


Interesting! Can you expand on this pray?

Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK ACCEPTS LIMITED BUDGET FROM TAN '

Wed May 30, 2018 4:21 pm

I'll happily take debt consolidation and the clubs future safe and secure over blowing millions and millions increasing the debt year on year and ultimately putting the club at risk.....again.

Re: ' NEIL WARNOCK ACCEPTS LIMITED BUDGET FROM TAN '

Wed May 30, 2018 4:25 pm

WelshPatriot wrote:I'll happily take debt consolidation and the clubs future safe and secure over blowing millions and millions increasing the debt year on year and ultimately putting the club at risk.....again.


Good for you!