Good luck Sunday but where have the fans been all season?

I'm a Birmingham fan living in South Wales and really hope you get the result on Sunday and hope we can also do you a favour by getting a result against Fulham if you need it. My point is where have the supporters been all season in backing Warnock? Our average attendance even allowing for your sell out on Sunday is about 1000 more per game over the season and you are 2nd and we've struggled all season. How do the regulars feel with all these plastic supporters coming out of the woodwork for Sunday. Not proper supporters for me. And before you say anything I've not missed a home game at Brum this season and have been to 16 away games out of the 23. I am sure the plastics will be there next season for the games against Man U, Man C, Liverpool, Spurs etc.

Really think you got enough to worry about without bothering your sweet little head with us

Now which multi stirrer is it this time

Really think you got enough to worry about without bothering your sweet little head with us

Now which multi stirrer is it this time

Correct.
What an absolute arse

A moth who has actually taken time out to check brums attendances this week, in order to have a pop.

What a salty cheesy bell

There's no need for that attitude. Cardiffs support this season has been poor considering the position they are in, fact. If you had been at the bottom I wonder how any you would have had? I am not having a go at Cardiff or the loyal supporters, it's the extra 12000 or so that have suddenly come out of the woodwork for the last match. All clubs have these fans and you can't deny your support this season has been pretty shit

There's no need for that attitude. Cardiffs support this season has been poor considering the position they are in, fact. If you had been at the bottom I wonder how any you would have had? I am not having a go at Cardiff or the loyal supporters, it's the extra 12000 or so that have suddenly come out of the woodwork for the last match. All clubs have these fans and you can't deny your support this season has been pretty shit

Roathy or Daya ???

Someone on a wind up, or trying to stir

I'm a Birmingham fan living in South Wales and really hope you get the result on Sunday and hope we can also do you a favour by getting a result against Fulham if you need it. My point is where have the supporters been all season in backing Warnock? Our average attendance even allowing for your sell out on Sunday is about 1000 more per game over the season and you are 2nd and we've struggled all season. How do the regulars feel with all these plastic supporters coming out of the woodwork for Sunday. Not proper supporters for me. And before you say anything I've not missed a home game at Brum this season and have been to 16 away games out of the 23. I am sure the plastics will be there next season for the games against Man U, Man C, Liverpool, Spurs etc.

As a Birmingham city supporter Myself I think your post is a Joke, Why sign up to a site to slander other supporters, Have you done the same to the other clubs in Every league because its Normal for supporters to turn up for important games, Do you remember we got 24.000 in our local derby against villa, Our last few games we average 22,000 But on Sunday its a 29,000 sell out ,All clubs do the same so why not be nice and wish Cardiff Good Luck in Beating Reading which might help our club.

I'm a Birmingham fan living in South Wales and really hope you get the result on Sunday and hope we can also do you a favour by getting a result against Fulham if you need it. My point is where have the supporters been all season in backing Warnock? Our average attendance even allowing for your sell out on Sunday is about 1000 more per game over the season and you are 2nd and we've struggled all season. How do the regulars feel with all these plastic supporters coming out of the woodwork for Sunday. Not proper supporters for me. And before you say anything I've not missed a home game at Brum this season and have been to 16 away games out of the 23. I am sure the plastics will be there next season for the games against Man U, Man C, Liverpool, Spurs etc.

As a Birmingham city supporter Myself I think your post is a Joke, Why sign up to a site to slander other supporters, Have you done the same to the other clubs in Every league because its Normal for supporters to turn up for important games, Do you remember we got 24.000 in our local derby against villa, Our last few games we average 22,000 But on Sunday its a 29,000 sell out ,All clubs do the same so why not be nice and wish Cardiff Good Luck in Beating Reading which might help our club.

I'm a Birmingham fan living in South Wales and really hope you get the result on Sunday and hope we can also do you a favour by getting a result against Fulham if you need it. My point is where have the supporters been all season in backing Warnock? Our average attendance even allowing for your sell out on Sunday is about 1000 more per game over the season and you are 2nd and we've struggled all season. How do the regulars feel with all these plastic supporters coming out of the woodwork for Sunday. Not proper supporters for me. And before you say anything I've not missed a home game at Brum this season and have been to 16 away games out of the 23. I am sure the plastics will be there next season for the games against Man U, Man C, Liverpool, Spurs etc.

As a Birmingham city supporter Myself I think your post is a Joke, Why sign up to a site to slander other supporters, Have you done the same to the other clubs in Every league because its Normal for supporters to turn up for important games, Do you remember we got 24.000 in our local derby against villa, Our last few games we average 22,000 But on Sunday its a 29,000 sell out ,All clubs do the same so why not be nice and wish Cardiff Good Luck in Beating Reading which might help our club.

Thanks for your kind words and sticking up for us, this clown (lucky) is no Birmingham fan he is a well know nut job on here, he is the freak show known as roathie and post's under multiple user names.

I'm a Birmingham fan living in South Wales and really hope you get the result on Sunday and hope we can also do you a favour by getting a result against Fulham if you need it. My point is where have the supporters been all season in backing Warnock? Our average attendance even allowing for your sell out on Sunday is about 1000 more per game over the season and you are 2nd and we've struggled all season. How do the regulars feel with all these plastic supporters coming out of the woodwork for Sunday. Not proper supporters for me. And before you say anything I've not missed a home game at Brum this season and have been to 16 away games out of the 23. I am sure the plastics will be there next season for the games against Man U, Man C, Liverpool, Spurs etc.

As a Birmingham city supporter Myself I think your post is a Joke, Why sign up to a site to slander other supporters, Have you done the same to the other clubs in Every league because its Normal for supporters to turn up for important games, Do you remember we got 24.000 in our local derby against villa, Our last few games we average 22,000 But on Sunday its a 29,000 sell out ,All clubs do the same so why not be nice and wish Cardiff Good Luck in Beating Reading which might help our club.

Thanks for your kind words and sticking up for us, this clown (lucky) is no Birmingham fan he is a well know nut job on here, he is the freak show known as roathie and post's under multiple user names. [/quote OH Thank God for that, I just don't understand why anyone would go to the trouble to sign up to a site so spit bile ,He wont be able to read so I'm safe to voice my opions on here, It going to go to the wire but I'm certain Cardiff And Brum will be Happy on Sunday

I'm a Birmingham fan living in South Wales and really hope you get the result on Sunday and hope we can also do you a favour by getting a result against Fulham if you need it. My point is where have the supporters been all season in backing Warnock? Our average attendance even allowing for your sell out on Sunday is about 1000 more per game over the season and you are 2nd and we've struggled all season. How do the regulars feel with all these plastic supporters coming out of the woodwork for Sunday. Not proper supporters for me. And before you say anything I've not missed a home game at Brum this season and have been to 16 away games out of the 23. I am sure the plastics will be there next season for the games against Man U, Man C, Liverpool, Spurs etc.

As a Birmingham city supporter Myself I think your post is a Joke, Why sign up to a site to slander other supporters, Have you done the same to the other clubs in Every league because its Normal for supporters to turn up for important games, Do you remember we got 24.000 in our local derby against villa, Our last few games we average 22,000 But on Sunday its a 29,000 sell out ,All clubs do the same so why not be nice and wish Cardiff Good Luck in Beating Reading which might help our club.

Thanks for your kind words and sticking up for us, this clown (lucky) is no Birmingham fan he is a well know nut job on here, he is the freak show known as roathie and post's under multiple user names. [/quote OH Thank God for that, I just don't understand why anyone would go to the trouble to sign up to a site so spit bile ,He wont be able to read so I'm safe to voice my opions on here, It going to go to the wire but I'm certain Cardiff And Brum will be Happy on Sunday

I think you will find I have wished Cardiff all the best for Sunday and hope they beat Reading. I have just stayed the facts about the attendances being so poor considering their league position and everyone gets upset. I have got my opinion and if people don't like the facts then theres not a lot I can do about that. Some people need to grow up and face facts. I have not once insulted anyone on here and good luck to Cardiff on Sunday. I just think Warnock has deserved more support from the fans

If you consider the subject matter it tends to narrow down the ID of the multi.

I think you will find I have wished Cardiff all the best for Sunday and hope they beat Reading. I have just stayed the facts about the attendances being so poor considering their league position and everyone gets upset. I have got my opinion and if people don't like the facts then theres not a lot I can do about that. Some people need to grow up and face facts. I have not once insulted anyone on here and good luck to Cardiff on Sunday. I just think Warnock has deserved more support from the fans

In your defence I have always thought you were a sound poster but what facts have you stated exactly?

Have a look at our history fella.

For the past 2 seasons we have averaged 16,463 & 16,564, this season we are averaging 19,604, with a 33,000 crowd to come on Sunday that will probably tip us close or over 20,000 average for the season.

Our crowds are UP, by 3-3,500 on the previous 2 seasons, this suggests to me that the fans have supported Warnock contrary to what you have stated.

This will be our 7th highest average attendance is the past 40+ years only beaten by the year we moved into our new stadium, the following 3 seasons where we were never out of the top 6 and subsequently won the Championship and the year in the Premiership and the one after it largely due to the fact most had renewed season tickets.

Yes we are going to have a bumper crowd on Sunday made up by extra fans, call them whatever you want, ALL CLUBS ARE THE SAME, including yours.

You know what Football is like and your post smacks as a cheap shot to be honest mate, you only have to look at your own Club to see how crowds fluctuate.

Since 1990 you have gone from 7,000 up to almost as high as 30,000 and back down to 18,000 now.

Let me take you back to the last time you went up in 2009 you averaged 19,081, In the March your crowds were bouncing around anywhere between the 16-18,000 mark, in the January you were 3rd in the League and only managed a 15,000 crowd against Derby who I imagine would have brought a few! but low and behold, your last two home games saw crowds of 25 & 26,000.

As stated above all Clubs are the same, no need for low blows, thanks for the good luck though

I think you will find I have wished Cardiff all the best for Sunday and hope they beat Reading. I have just stayed the facts about the attendances being so poor considering their league position and everyone gets upset. I have got my opinion and if people don't like the facts then theres not a lot I can do about that. Some people need to grow up and face facts. I have not once insulted anyone on here and good luck to Cardiff on Sunday. I just think Warnock has deserved more support from the fans

In your defence I have always thought you were a sound poster but what facts have you stated exactly?

Have a look at our history fella.

For the past 2 seasons we have averaged 16,463 & 16,564, this season we are averaging 19,604, with a 33,000 crowd to come on Sunday that will probably tip us close or over 20,000 average for the season.

Our crowds are UP, by 3-3,500 on the previous 2 seasons, this suggests to me that the fans have supported Warnock contrary to what you have stated.

This will be our 7th highest average attendance is the past 40+ years only beaten by the year we moved into our new stadium, the following 3 seasons where we were never out of the top 6 and subsequently won the Championship and the year in the Premiership and the one after it largely due to the fact most had renewed season tickets.

Yes we are going to have a bumper crowd on Sunday made up by extra fans, call them whatever you want, ALL CLUBS ARE THE SAME, including yours.

You know what Football is like and your post smacks as a cheap shot to be honest mate, you only have to look at your own Club to see how crowds fluctuate.

Since 1990 you have gone from 7,000 up to almost as high as 30,000 and back down to 18,000 now.

Let me take you back to the last time you went up in 2009 you averaged 19,081, In the March your crowds were bouncing around anywhere between the 16-18,000 mark, in the January you were 3rd in the League and only managed a 15,000 crowd against Derby who I imagine would have brought a few! but low and behold, your last two home games saw crowds of 25 & 26,000.

As stated above all Clubs are the same, no need for low blows, thanks for the good luck though

I appreciate your comments and it wasn't meant as a cheap shot in anyway. We can all go back in history and make our crowds look better or worse. What my point was is that considering the position that Cardiff have been in all season the crowds not just home but away have been poor and I would have expected more. Also if Cardiff were in the bottom 6 all season like us it would have been a lot worse. It's a shame that all the extra fans that go on Sunday couldn't go more regularly and support the team. For Cardiff to have probably 13000 on Sunday more than their average proves the support is there

Once again I have to educate people like the clown who started this thread the best supported clubs are the ones who have spent the most seasons in the top flight either recently or historically.
Birmingham city fc 57 seasons
Cardiff city fc 16 seasons.
Don't believe me look ut up yourself.

I think you will find I have wished Cardiff all the best for Sunday and hope they beat Reading. I have just stayed the facts about the attendances being so poor considering their league position and everyone gets upset. I have got my opinion and if people don't like the facts then theres not a lot I can do about that. Some people need to grow up and face facts. I have not once insulted anyone on here and good luck to Cardiff on Sunday. I just think Warnock has deserved more support from the fans

In your defence I have always thought you were a sound poster but what facts have you stated exactly?

Have a look at our history fella.

For the past 2 seasons we have averaged 16,463 & 16,564, this season we are averaging 19,604, with a 33,000 crowd to come on Sunday that will probably tip us close or over 20,000 average for the season.

Our crowds are UP, by 3-3,500 on the previous 2 seasons, this suggests to me that the fans have supported Warnock contrary to what you have stated.

This will be our 7th highest average attendance is the past 40+ years only beaten by the year we moved into our new stadium, the following 3 seasons where we were never out of the top 6 and subsequently won the Championship and the year in the Premiership and the one after it largely due to the fact most had renewed season tickets.

Yes we are going to have a bumper crowd on Sunday made up by extra fans, call them whatever you want, ALL CLUBS ARE THE SAME, including yours.

You know what Football is like and your post smacks as a cheap shot to be honest mate, you only have to look at your own Club to see how crowds fluctuate.

Since 1990 you have gone from 7,000 up to almost as high as 30,000 and back down to 18,000 now.

Let me take you back to the last time you went up in 2009 you averaged 19,081, In the March your crowds were bouncing around anywhere between the 16-18,000 mark, in the January you were 3rd in the League and only managed a 15,000 crowd against Derby who I imagine would have brought a few! but low and behold, your last two home games saw crowds of 25 & 26,000.

As stated above all Clubs are the same, no need for low blows, thanks for the good luck though

I appreciate your comments and it wasn't meant as a cheap shot in anyway. We can all go back in history and make our crowds look better or worse. What my point was is that considering the position that Cardiff have been in all season the crowds not just home but away have been poor and I would have expected more. Also if Cardiff were in the bottom 6 all season like us it would have been a lot worse. It's a shame that all the extra fans that go on Sunday couldn't go more regularly and support the team. For Cardiff to have probably 13000 on Sunday more than their average proves the support is there

How have they been poor? with respect mate, your showing a complete lack of understanding of our history, how can our 7th highest average home crowd in 45+ years be classed as poor, how can an increase on the previous 2 seasons be classed as poor.

We will have 33,000 there on Sunday, 20 years ago we were averaging 3,600. 10 years ago 13,000, our crowds have grown more than most in recent times, to say 20,000 average is poor for us would suggest that we had huge crowds previously, we didn't.

As for on the road, again, that's open to debate, we have just played 5 away games in 26 days and took over 10,000 fans to the 5 games, 3 of which were on Sky, 3 of which were night games, none of which were particularly close apart from Villa and even that isn't close compared to what other Clubs have on their door step.

4,000 to Fulham, 3000+ to Bristol City, 1,300 odd to your place on a Friday Night on Sky, 1650 to Burton, 2,600 to Derby mid-week on Sky, 2,600 to Villa mid-week on Sky, 1,200 to Nottingham Forest early kick off on a Sunday, 1,000 to Brentford mid-week (re-arranged) on Sky, 1,000 to Sheffield Utd Night Game on Sky, 800 to Millwall Friday night on Sky.

Also factor this in, out of 23 away games, 8 were on Sky and only 9 were at 3pm on a Saturday. We had to travel to Barnsley, Preston and Ipswich on Tuesday Nights!!!! plus our two games at the Sheffield Clubs were pushed back to late kick offs on Sky.

All things considered I think our support is doing fine.

Good Luck for Sunday and next season

I think you will find I have wished Cardiff all the best for Sunday and hope they beat Reading. I have just stayed the facts about the attendances being so poor considering their league position and everyone gets upset. I have got my opinion and if people don't like the facts then theres not a lot I can do about that. Some people need to grow up and face facts. I have not once insulted anyone on here and good luck to Cardiff on Sunday. I just think Warnock has deserved more support from the fans

In your defence I have always thought you were a sound poster but what facts have you stated exactly?

Have a look at our history fella.

For the past 2 seasons we have averaged 16,463 & 16,564, this season we are averaging 19,604, with a 33,000 crowd to come on Sunday that will probably tip us close or over 20,000 average for the season.

Our crowds are UP, by 3-3,500 on the previous 2 seasons, this suggests to me that the fans have supported Warnock contrary to what you have stated.

This will be our 7th highest average attendance is the past 40+ years only beaten by the year we moved into our new stadium, the following 3 seasons where we were never out of the top 6 and subsequently won the Championship and the year in the Premiership and the one after it largely due to the fact most had renewed season tickets.

Yes we are going to have a bumper crowd on Sunday made up by extra fans, call them whatever you want, ALL CLUBS ARE THE SAME, including yours.

You know what Football is like and your post smacks as a cheap shot to be honest mate, you only have to look at your own Club to see how crowds fluctuate.

Since 1990 you have gone from 7,000 up to almost as high as 30,000 and back down to 18,000 now.

Let me take you back to the last time you went up in 2009 you averaged 19,081, In the March your crowds were bouncing around anywhere between the 16-18,000 mark, in the January you were 3rd in the League and only managed a 15,000 crowd against Derby who I imagine would have brought a few! but low and behold, your last two home games saw crowds of 25 & 26,000.

As stated above all Clubs are the same, no need for low blows, thanks for the good luck though

I appreciate your comments and it wasn't meant as a cheap shot in anyway. We can all go back in history and make our crowds look better or worse. What my point was is that considering the position that Cardiff have been in all season the crowds not just home but away have been poor and I would have expected more. Also if Cardiff were in the bottom 6 all season like us it would have been a lot worse. It's a shame that all the extra fans that go on Sunday couldn't go more regularly and support the team. For Cardiff to have probably 13000 on Sunday more than their average proves the support is there

How have they been poor? with respect mate, your showing a complete lack of understanding of our history, how can our 7th highest average home crowd in 45+ years be classed as poor, how can an increase on the previous 2 seasons be classed as poor.

We will have 33,000 there on Sunday, 20 years ago we were averaging 3,600. 10 years ago 13,000, our crowds have grown more than most in recent times, to say 20,000 average is poor for us would suggest that we had huge crowds previously, we didn't.

As for on the road, again, that's open to debate, we have just played 5 away games in 26 days and took over 10,000 fans to the 5 games, 3 of which were on Sky, 3 of which were night games, none of which were particularly close apart from Villa and even that isn't close compared to what other Clubs have on their door step.

4,000 to Fulham, 3000+ to Bristol City, 1,300 odd to your place on a Friday Night on Sky, 1650 to Burton, 2,600 to Derby mid-week on Sky, 2,600 to Villa mid-week on Sky, 1,200 to Nottingham Forest early kick off on a Sunday, 1,000 to Brentford mid-week (re-arranged) on Sky, 1,000 to Sheffield Utd Night Game on Sky, 800 to Millwall Friday night on Sky.

Also factor this in, out of 23 away games, 8 were on Sky and only 9 were at 3pm on a Saturday. We had to travel to Barnsley, Preston and Ipswich on Tuesday Nights!!!! plus our two games at the Sheffield Clubs were pushed back to late kick offs on Sky.

All things considered I think our support is doing fine.

Good Luck for Sunday and next season

GAME, SET AND MATCH!

I think you will find I have wished Cardiff all the best for Sunday and hope they beat Reading. I have just stayed the facts about the attendances being so poor considering their league position and everyone gets upset. I have got my opinion and if people don't like the facts then theres not a lot I can do about that. Some people need to grow up and face facts. I have not once insulted anyone on here and good luck to Cardiff on Sunday. I just think Warnock has deserved more support from the fans

In your defence I have always thought you were a sound poster but what facts have you stated exactly?

Have a look at our history fella.

For the past 2 seasons we have averaged 16,463 & 16,564, this season we are averaging 19,604, with a 33,000 crowd to come on Sunday that will probably tip us close or over 20,000 average for the season.

Our crowds are UP, by 3-3,500 on the previous 2 seasons, this suggests to me that the fans have supported Warnock contrary to what you have stated.

This will be our 7th highest average attendance is the past 40+ years only beaten by the year we moved into our new stadium, the following 3 seasons where we were never out of the top 6 and subsequently won the Championship and the year in the Premiership and the one after it largely due to the fact most had renewed season tickets.

Yes we are going to have a bumper crowd on Sunday made up by extra fans, call them whatever you want, ALL CLUBS ARE THE SAME, including yours.

You know what Football is like and your post smacks as a cheap shot to be honest mate, you only have to look at your own Club to see how crowds fluctuate.

Since 1990 you have gone from 7,000 up to almost as high as 30,000 and back down to 18,000 now.

Let me take you back to the last time you went up in 2009 you averaged 19,081, In the March your crowds were bouncing around anywhere between the 16-18,000 mark, in the January you were 3rd in the League and only managed a 15,000 crowd against Derby who I imagine would have brought a few! but low and behold, your last two home games saw crowds of 25 & 26,000.

As stated above all Clubs are the same, no need for low blows, thanks for the good luck though

I appreciate your comments and it wasn't meant as a cheap shot in anyway. We can all go back in history and make our crowds look better or worse. What my point was is that considering the position that Cardiff have been in all season the crowds not just home but away have been poor and I would have expected more. Also if Cardiff were in the bottom 6 all season like us it would have been a lot worse. It's a shame that all the extra fans that go on Sunday couldn't go more regularly and support the team. For Cardiff to have probably 13000 on Sunday more than their average proves the support is there

And your support will be even worse when you get relegated to League 1

I think you will find I have wished Cardiff all the best for Sunday and hope they beat Reading. I have just stayed the facts about the attendances being so poor considering their league position and everyone gets upset. I have got my opinion and if people don't like the facts then theres not a lot I can do about that. Some people need to grow up and face facts. I have not once insulted anyone on here and good luck to Cardiff on Sunday. I just think Warnock has deserved more support from the fans

In your defence I have always thought you were a sound poster but what facts have you stated exactly?

Have a look at our history fella.

For the past 2 seasons we have averaged 16,463 & 16,564, this season we are averaging 19,604, with a 33,000 crowd to come on Sunday that will probably tip us close or over 20,000 average for the season.

Our crowds are UP, by 3-3,500 on the previous 2 seasons, this suggests to me that the fans have supported Warnock contrary to what you have stated.

This will be our 7th highest average attendance is the past 40+ years only beaten by the year we moved into our new stadium, the following 3 seasons where we were never out of the top 6 and subsequently won the Championship and the year in the Premiership and the one after it largely due to the fact most had renewed season tickets.

Yes we are going to have a bumper crowd on Sunday made up by extra fans, call them whatever you want, ALL CLUBS ARE THE SAME, including yours.

You know what Football is like and your post smacks as a cheap shot to be honest mate, you only have to look at your own Club to see how crowds fluctuate.

Since 1990 you have gone from 7,000 up to almost as high as 30,000 and back down to 18,000 now.

Let me take you back to the last time you went up in 2009 you averaged 19,081, In the March your crowds were bouncing around anywhere between the 16-18,000 mark, in the January you were 3rd in the League and only managed a 15,000 crowd against Derby who I imagine would have brought a few! but low and behold, your last two home games saw crowds of 25 & 26,000.

As stated above all Clubs are the same, no need for low blows, thanks for the good luck though

I appreciate your comments and it wasn't meant as a cheap shot in anyway. We can all go back in history and make our crowds look better or worse. What my point was is that considering the position that Cardiff have been in all season the crowds not just home but away have been poor and I would have expected more. Also if Cardiff were in the bottom 6 all season like us it would have been a lot worse. It's a shame that all the extra fans that go on Sunday couldn't go more regularly and support the team. For Cardiff to have probably 13000 on Sunday more than their average proves the support is there

How have they been poor? with respect mate, your showing a complete lack of understanding of our history, how can our 7th highest average home crowd in 45+ years be classed as poor, how can an increase on the previous 2 seasons be classed as poor.

We will have 33,000 there on Sunday, 20 years ago we were averaging 3,600. 10 years ago 13,000, our crowds have grown more than most in recent times, to say 20,000 average is poor for us would suggest that we had huge crowds previously, we didn't.

As for on the road, again, that's open to debate, we have just played 5 away games in 26 days and took over 10,000 fans to the 5 games, 3 of which were on Sky, 3 of which were night games, none of which were particularly close apart from Villa and even that isn't close compared to what other Clubs have on their door step.

4,000 to Fulham, 3000+ to Bristol City, 1,300 odd to your place on a Friday Night on Sky, 1650 to Burton, 2,600 to Derby mid-week on Sky, 2,600 to Villa mid-week on Sky, 1,200 to Nottingham Forest early kick off on a Sunday, 1,000 to Brentford mid-week (re-arranged) on Sky, 1,000 to Sheffield Utd Night Game on Sky, 800 to Millwall Friday night on Sky.

Also factor this in, out of 23 away games, 8 were on Sky and only 9 were at 3pm on a Saturday. We had to travel to Barnsley, Preston and Ipswich on Tuesday Nights!!!! plus our two games at the Sheffield Clubs were pushed back to late kick offs on Sky.

All things considered I think our support is doing fine.

Good Luck for Sunday and next season

GAME, SET AND MATCH!

If you want to compare our average home or away support with Cardiff then please do so. We've had a number of away games this season where we have sold out and could have taken a lot more. Last Saturday at QPR we had 1800 because that's all they gave us. Same at Villa, Wolves, Fulham, Sheff Utd as well as some others. If you want to bring Tuesday night games into it we took 4800 to Bolton about 5 or 6 weeks ago. Sheff Utd we took 2500 on a Sat night live on Sky so not let's hide behind Sky or Tuesday night games. And let's face facts if Cardiff had been as poor as us how would the average crowds look then? Nobody has answered that. I am not knocking Cardiffs loyal supporters it's the ones that are going to their 2nd game of the season on Sunday after Man City

I think you will find I have wished Cardiff all the best for Sunday and hope they beat Reading. I have just stayed the facts about the attendances being so poor considering their league position and everyone gets upset. I have got my opinion and if people don't like the facts then theres not a lot I can do about that. Some people need to grow up and face facts. I have not once insulted anyone on here and good luck to Cardiff on Sunday. I just think Warnock has deserved more support from the fans

In your defence I have always thought you were a sound poster but what facts have you stated exactly?

Have a look at our history fella.

For the past 2 seasons we have averaged 16,463 & 16,564, this season we are averaging 19,604, with a 33,000 crowd to come on Sunday that will probably tip us close or over 20,000 average for the season.

Our crowds are UP, by 3-3,500 on the previous 2 seasons, this suggests to me that the fans have supported Warnock contrary to what you have stated.

This will be our 7th highest average attendance is the past 40+ years only beaten by the year we moved into our new stadium, the following 3 seasons where we were never out of the top 6 and subsequently won the Championship and the year in the Premiership and the one after it largely due to the fact most had renewed season tickets.

Yes we are going to have a bumper crowd on Sunday made up by extra fans, call them whatever you want, ALL CLUBS ARE THE SAME, including yours.

You know what Football is like and your post smacks as a cheap shot to be honest mate, you only have to look at your own Club to see how crowds fluctuate.

Since 1990 you have gone from 7,000 up to almost as high as 30,000 and back down to 18,000 now.

Let me take you back to the last time you went up in 2009 you averaged 19,081, In the March your crowds were bouncing around anywhere between the 16-18,000 mark, in the January you were 3rd in the League and only managed a 15,000 crowd against Derby who I imagine would have brought a few! but low and behold, your last two home games saw crowds of 25 & 26,000.

As stated above all Clubs are the same, no need for low blows, thanks for the good luck though

I appreciate your comments and it wasn't meant as a cheap shot in anyway. We can all go back in history and make our crowds look better or worse. What my point was is that considering the position that Cardiff have been in all season the crowds not just home but away have been poor and I would have expected more. Also if Cardiff were in the bottom 6 all season like us it would have been a lot worse. It's a shame that all the extra fans that go on Sunday couldn't go more regularly and support the team. For Cardiff to have probably 13000 on Sunday more than their average proves the support is there

How have they been poor? with respect mate, your showing a complete lack of understanding of our history, how can our 7th highest average home crowd in 45+ years be classed as poor, how can an increase on the previous 2 seasons be classed as poor.

We will have 33,000 there on Sunday, 20 years ago we were averaging 3,600. 10 years ago 13,000, our crowds have grown more than most in recent times, to say 20,000 average is poor for us would suggest that we had huge crowds previously, we didn't.

As for on the road, again, that's open to debate, we have just played 5 away games in 26 days and took over 10,000 fans to the 5 games, 3 of which were on Sky, 3 of which were night games, none of which were particularly close apart from Villa and even that isn't close compared to what other Clubs have on their door step.

4,000 to Fulham, 3000+ to Bristol City, 1,300 odd to your place on a Friday Night on Sky, 1650 to Burton, 2,600 to Derby mid-week on Sky, 2,600 to Villa mid-week on Sky, 1,200 to Nottingham Forest early kick off on a Sunday, 1,000 to Brentford mid-week (re-arranged) on Sky, 1,000 to Sheffield Utd Night Game on Sky, 800 to Millwall Friday night on Sky.

Also factor this in, out of 23 away games, 8 were on Sky and only 9 were at 3pm on a Saturday. We had to travel to Barnsley, Preston and Ipswich on Tuesday Nights!!!! plus our two games at the Sheffield Clubs were pushed back to late kick offs on Sky.

All things considered I think our support is doing fine.

Good Luck for Sunday and next season

GAME, SET AND MATCH!

If you want to compare our average home or away support with Cardiff then please do so. We've had a number of away games this season where we have sold out and could have taken a lot more. Last Saturday at QPR we had 1800 because that's all they gave us. Same at Villa, Wolves, Fulham, Sheff Utd as well as some others. If you want to bring Tuesday night games into it we took 4800 to Bolton about 5 or 6 weeks ago. Sheff Utd we took 2500 on a Sat night live on Sky so not let's hide behind Sky or Tuesday night games. And let's face facts if Cardiff had been as poor as us how would the average crowds look then? Nobody has answered that. I am not knocking Cardiffs loyal supporters it's the ones that are going to their 2nd game of the season on Sunday after Man City

I see you avoided my post but replied to this and to be honest your reply to Eddie just proves that all you have done is come on here to have a sly dig so you have lost a bit of respect from me now.

'If Cardiff were as poor as us how would the average crowds look then'.

About the same as you probably, whatever happens we will probably average 15-16,000 minimum for years now at this level as a minimum, our Crowds tend to grown when we are either going up or going down, its when we are in no mans land they stagnate,

You pointed out that you took 4,800 to Bolton which is great support, but that is closer to you than Reading is to Cardiff yet Reading is classed as a local game for us says it all. I have been to Reading in the old Division 3 with Cardiff and taken 2,500-3,000 when we have been fighting relegation. We have taken as many as 4,000 there on occasions.

You want to point out that you took 2,500 fans to Sheffield Utd on a Saturday Night live on Sky but then say lets not hide behind Sky/Tuesday night games.

Let me point out to you that Birmingham to Sheffield is 91 Miles and is about 1 hour on the train, incidentally the train links are so good back into Birmingham that you can do most trips at ease, we don't have this luxury as Cardiff fans, in the main its coach/car or nothing.

As a fan/Club Birmingham are unbelievably blessed when it comes to away trips.

To put it into context, your have 9 games which are less than an hour away, WE have ONE. If your away followings were not better than ours I would be flabbergasted.

If Bristol City were not in our Division our 'local derby' would be reading, 112 miles away, crazy huh!!!!

I would LOVE to have 9 away games that were less than 100 miles away and we could do on the train, our Away Followings would be through the roof!!

And.. its got nothing to do with success, we have taken 6000+ to Scunthorpe in Division 3, 5,000+ to Brentford in Division 3, 2,000+ to Stoke when were were more or less down anyway In the old Division 2, Stoke is 150 miles away from Cardiff by the way.

We have had 6,500 at Anfield on a Tuesday Night, thousands here there and everywhere same as all Clubs, 2,000+ at Darlington in Division 3 blah blah blah.

Listen, I not here to argue, I like Birmingham, always seen them as the working mans club, same as us, but your talking sht mate, you don't know what your talking about with respect.

I think you will find I have wished Cardiff all the best for Sunday and hope they beat Reading. I have just stayed the facts about the attendances being so poor considering their league position and everyone gets upset. I have got my opinion and if people don't like the facts then theres not a lot I can do about that. Some people need to grow up and face facts. I have not once insulted anyone on here and good luck to Cardiff on Sunday. I just think Warnock has deserved more support from the fans

In your defence I have always thought you were a sound poster but what facts have you stated exactly?

Have a look at our history fella.

For the past 2 seasons we have averaged 16,463 & 16,564, this season we are averaging 19,604, with a 33,000 crowd to come on Sunday that will probably tip us close or over 20,000 average for the season.

Our crowds are UP, by 3-3,500 on the previous 2 seasons, this suggests to me that the fans have supported Warnock contrary to what you have stated.

This will be our 7th highest average attendance is the past 40+ years only beaten by the year we moved into our new stadium, the following 3 seasons where we were never out of the top 6 and subsequently won the Championship and the year in the Premiership and the one after it largely due to the fact most had renewed season tickets.

Yes we are going to have a bumper crowd on Sunday made up by extra fans, call them whatever you want, ALL CLUBS ARE THE SAME, including yours.

You know what Football is like and your post smacks as a cheap shot to be honest mate, you only have to look at your own Club to see how crowds fluctuate.

Since 1990 you have gone from 7,000 up to almost as high as 30,000 and back down to 18,000 now.

Let me take you back to the last time you went up in 2009 you averaged 19,081, In the March your crowds were bouncing around anywhere between the 16-18,000 mark, in the January you were 3rd in the League and only managed a 15,000 crowd against Derby who I imagine would have brought a few! but low and behold, your last two home games saw crowds of 25 & 26,000.

As stated above all Clubs are the same, no need for low blows, thanks for the good luck though

I appreciate your comments and it wasn't meant as a cheap shot in anyway. We can all go back in history and make our crowds look better or worse. What my point was is that considering the position that Cardiff have been in all season the crowds not just home but away have been poor and I would have expected more. Also if Cardiff were in the bottom 6 all season like us it would have been a lot worse. It's a shame that all the extra fans that go on Sunday couldn't go more regularly and support the team. For Cardiff to have probably 13000 on Sunday more than their average proves the support is there

How have they been poor? with respect mate, your showing a complete lack of understanding of our history, how can our 7th highest average home crowd in 45+ years be classed as poor, how can an increase on the previous 2 seasons be classed as poor.

We will have 33,000 there on Sunday, 20 years ago we were averaging 3,600. 10 years ago 13,000, our crowds have grown more than most in recent times, to say 20,000 average is poor for us would suggest that we had huge crowds previously, we didn't.

As for on the road, again, that's open to debate, we have just played 5 away games in 26 days and took over 10,000 fans to the 5 games, 3 of which were on Sky, 3 of which were night games, none of which were particularly close apart from Villa and even that isn't close compared to what other Clubs have on their door step.

4,000 to Fulham, 3000+ to Bristol City, 1,300 odd to your place on a Friday Night on Sky, 1650 to Burton, 2,600 to Derby mid-week on Sky, 2,600 to Villa mid-week on Sky, 1,200 to Nottingham Forest early kick off on a Sunday, 1,000 to Brentford mid-week (re-arranged) on Sky, 1,000 to Sheffield Utd Night Game on Sky, 800 to Millwall Friday night on Sky.

Also factor this in, out of 23 away games, 8 were on Sky and only 9 were at 3pm on a Saturday. We had to travel to Barnsley, Preston and Ipswich on Tuesday Nights!!!! plus our two games at the Sheffield Clubs were pushed back to late kick offs on Sky.

All things considered I think our support is doing fine.

Good Luck for Sunday and next season

GAME, SET AND MATCH!

If you want to compare our average home or away support with Cardiff then please do so. We've had a number of away games this season where we have sold out and could have taken a lot more. Last Saturday at QPR we had 1800 because that's all they gave us. Same at Villa, Wolves, Fulham, Sheff Utd as well as some others. If you want to bring Tuesday night games into it we took 4800 to Bolton about 5 or 6 weeks ago. Sheff Utd we took 2500 on a Sat night live on Sky so not let's hide behind Sky or Tuesday night games. And let's face facts if Cardiff had been as poor as us how would the average crowds look then? Nobody has answered that. I am not knocking Cardiffs loyal supporters it's the ones that are going to their 2nd game of the season on Sunday after Man City

Population of Birmingham is roughly 3 times that of Cardiff so even taking into account there are 2 teams in Birmingham that would mean your support should be 1.5 times bigger than ours.

That would be 29K which you are 9k short of.

To put that into context your support is down 45% on ours taking into account local population and factoring in the fact there are two teams in Birmingham.

With regards to distance I travel 125 miles to every home game so as I've previously stated why does distance matter so much. I believe Annis travels from Spain to support the team he loves regularly. When people talk about the population of Birmingham, I'm sorry to correct you but there are 3 teams in Birmingham, us, Villa and West Brom. Also Wolves are less than 20 miles away. Cardiff have Swansea virtually 50 miles away and have a massive catchment area, as well as Cardiff, Barry, Penarth, Bridgend, llanristant and all the valleys. As I've said I'm not knocking the regular fans in anyway but I believe with the catchment area and league position Cardiff should be getting 30000 every home game at least.

Football fact the teams with the best support are the ones who have spent the most seasons in the top flight wether recently or historically is that too much for you to understand?.

With regards to distance I travel 125 miles to every home game so as I've previously stated why does distance matter so much. I believe Annis travels from Spain to support the team he loves regularly. When people talk about the population of Birmingham, I'm sorry to correct you but there are 3 teams in Birmingham, us, Villa and West Brom. Also Wolves are less than 20 miles away. Cardiff have Swansea virtually 50 miles away and have a massive catchment area, as well as Cardiff, Barry, Penarth, Bridgend, llanristant and all the valleys. As I've said I'm not knocking the regular fans in anyway but I believe with the catchment area and league position Cardiff should be getting 30000 every home game at least.

Youll have some cracking away days next year Bradford, Doncaster, Fleetwood, Accrington Stanley...see how many you sell then

With regards to distance I travel 125 miles to every home game so as I've previously stated why does distance matter so much. I believe Annis travels from Spain to support the team he loves regularly. When people talk about the population of Birmingham, I'm sorry to correct you but there are 3 teams in Birmingham, us, Villa and West Brom. Also Wolves are less than 20 miles away. Cardiff have Swansea virtually 50 miles away and have a massive catchment area, as well as Cardiff, Barry, Penarth, Bridgend, llanristant and all the valleys. As I've said I'm not knocking the regular fans in anyway but I believe with the catchment area and league position Cardiff should be getting 30000 every home game at least.

But we never have!!! so whats your point?

Honestly it riles me when people say our crowds are poor and how we should be having 30,000 every week, yes we all wish we did, what football Club wouldn't. It will take time to grown a fan base with sustained success at the top level, Skiprat has tried to point that out to you many times.

Catchment area counts for nothing, there's almost 2 million people living in Devon and Cornwall yet the 3 Clubs, who have no competition for miles and miles struggle to 15,000 between them, that's just one example.

Honestly though, the thing that baffles me the most, is how a fan of another team can come onto another Clubs forum and say their crowds are poor, when under the same circumstances their own have bee WORSE is beyond me,

In the past week Jacks and Brum

Birmingham City 2009 - Promoted to the Premiership - Average attendance = 19,081
Swansea City 2011 - Promoted to the Premiership - Average attendance = 15,507
Cardiff City 2018 - Could potentially go up with a win on Sunday - Average attendance = 19.604.

How you lot of them lot can say our crowds are poor is beyond me.

I think you will find I have wished Cardiff all the best for Sunday and hope they beat Reading. I have just stayed the facts about the attendances being so poor considering their league position and everyone gets upset. I have got my opinion and if people don't like the facts then theres not a lot I can do about that. Some people need to grow up and face facts. I have not once insulted anyone on here and good luck to Cardiff on Sunday. I just think Warnock has deserved more support from the fans

In your defence I have always thought you were a sound poster but what facts have you stated exactly?

Have a look at our history fella.

For the past 2 seasons we have averaged 16,463 & 16,564, this season we are averaging 19,604, with a 33,000 crowd to come on Sunday that will probably tip us close or over 20,000 average for the season.

Our crowds are UP, by 3-3,500 on the previous 2 seasons, this suggests to me that the fans have supported Warnock contrary to what you have stated.

This will be our 7th highest average attendance is the past 40+ years only beaten by the year we moved into our new stadium, the following 3 seasons where we were never out of the top 6 and subsequently won the Championship and the year in the Premiership and the one after it largely due to the fact most had renewed season tickets.

Yes we are going to have a bumper crowd on Sunday made up by extra fans, call them whatever you want, ALL CLUBS ARE THE SAME, including yours.

You know what Football is like and your post smacks as a cheap shot to be honest mate, you only have to look at your own Club to see how crowds fluctuate.

Since 1990 you have gone from 7,000 up to almost as high as 30,000 and back down to 18,000 now.

Let me take you back to the last time you went up in 2009 you averaged 19,081, In the March your crowds were bouncing around anywhere between the 16-18,000 mark, in the January you were 3rd in the League and only managed a 15,000 crowd against Derby who I imagine would have brought a few! but low and behold, your last two home games saw crowds of 25 & 26,000.

As stated above all Clubs are the same, no need for low blows, thanks for the good luck though

I appreciate your comments and it wasn't meant as a cheap shot in anyway. We can all go back in history and make our crowds look better or worse. What my point was is that considering the position that Cardiff have been in all season the crowds not just home but away have been poor and I would have expected more. Also if Cardiff were in the bottom 6 all season like us it would have been a lot worse. It's a shame that all the extra fans that go on Sunday couldn't go more regularly and support the team. For Cardiff to have probably 13000 on Sunday more than their average proves the support is there

How have they been poor? with respect mate, your showing a complete lack of understanding of our history, how can our 7th highest average home crowd in 45+ years be classed as poor, how can an increase on the previous 2 seasons be classed as poor.

We will have 33,000 there on Sunday, 20 years ago we were averaging 3,600. 10 years ago 13,000, our crowds have grown more than most in recent times, to say 20,000 average is poor for us would suggest that we had huge crowds previously, we didn't.

As for on the road, again, that's open to debate, we have just played 5 away games in 26 days and took over 10,000 fans to the 5 games, 3 of which were on Sky, 3 of which were night games, none of which were particularly close apart from Villa and even that isn't close compared to what other Clubs have on their door step.

4,000 to Fulham, 3000+ to Bristol City, 1,300 odd to your place on a Friday Night on Sky, 1650 to Burton, 2,600 to Derby mid-week on Sky, 2,600 to Villa mid-week on Sky, 1,200 to Nottingham Forest early kick off on a Sunday, 1,000 to Brentford mid-week (re-arranged) on Sky, 1,000 to Sheffield Utd Night Game on Sky, 800 to Millwall Friday night on Sky.

Also factor this in, out of 23 away games, 8 were on Sky and only 9 were at 3pm on a Saturday. We had to travel to Barnsley, Preston and Ipswich on Tuesday Nights!!!! plus our two games at the Sheffield Clubs were pushed back to late kick offs on Sky.

All things considered I think our support is doing fine.

Good Luck for Sunday and next season

GAME, SET AND MATCH!

If you want to compare our average home or away support with Cardiff then please do so. We've had a number of away games this season where we have sold out and could have taken a lot more. Last Saturday at QPR we had 1800 because that's all they gave us. Same at Villa, Wolves, Fulham, Sheff Utd as well as some others. If you want to bring Tuesday night games into it we took 4800 to Bolton about 5 or 6 weeks ago. Sheff Utd we took 2500 on a Sat night live on Sky so not let's hide behind Sky or Tuesday night games. And let's face facts if Cardiff had been as poor as us how would the average crowds look then? Nobody has answered that. I am not knocking Cardiffs loyal supporters it's the ones that are going to their 2nd game of the season on Sunday after Man City

Population of Birmingham is roughly 3 times that of Cardiff so even taking into account there are 2 teams in Birmingham that would mean your support should be 1.5 times bigger than ours.

That would be 29K which you are 9k short of.

To put that into context your support is down 45% on ours taking into account local population and factoring in the fact there are two teams in Birmingham.

Which is poor especially considering Birmingham is a shitehole and there is nothing else to do Roathy

With regards to distance I travel 125 miles to every home game so as I've previously stated why does distance matter so much. I believe Annis travels from Spain to support the team he loves regularly. When people talk about the population of Birmingham, I'm sorry to correct you but there are 3 teams in Birmingham, us, Villa and West Brom. Also Wolves are less than 20 miles away. Cardiff have Swansea virtually 50 miles away and have a massive catchment area, as well as Cardiff, Barry, Penarth, Bridgend, llanristant and all the valleys. As I've said I'm not knocking the regular fans in anyway but I believe with the catchment area and league position Cardiff should be getting 30000 every home game at least.

But we never have!!! so whats your point?

Honestly it riles me when people say our crowds are poor and how we should be having 30,000 every week, yes we all wish we did, what football Club wouldn't. It will take time to grown a fan base with sustained success at the top level, Skiprat has tried to point that out to you many times.

Catchment area counts for nothing, there's almost 2 million people living in Devon and Cornwall yet the 3 Clubs, who have no competition for miles and miles struggle to 15,000 between them, that's just one example.

Honestly though, the thing that baffles me the most, is how a fan of another team can come onto another Clubs forum and say their crowds are poor, when under the same circumstances their own have bee WORSE is beyond me,

In the past week Jacks and Brum

Birmingham City 2009 - Promoted to the Premiership - Average attendance = 19,081
Swansea City 2011 - Promoted to the Premiership - Average attendance = 15,507
Cardiff City 2018 - Could potentially go up with a win on Sunday - Average attendance = 19.604.

How you lot of them lot can say our crowds are poor is beyond me.

Yes your facts are correct Cardiff average this season 19604 2nd in league, Birmingham average this season 20743 and in bottom 6 virtually all season. If the positions were the other way around the difference would be much bigger.

Why is old OddJob now pretending to be a Brum fan? Maybe Roathy is not real and just a bot. A sexbot.

With regards to distance I travel 125 miles to every home game so as I've previously stated why does distance matter so much. I believe Annis travels from Spain to support the team he loves regularly. When people talk about the population of Birmingham, I'm sorry to correct you but there are 3 teams in Birmingham, us, Villa and West Brom. Also Wolves are less than 20 miles away. Cardiff have Swansea virtually 50 miles away and have a massive catchment area, as well as Cardiff, Barry, Penarth, Bridgend, llanristant and all the valleys. As I've said I'm not knocking the regular fans in anyway but I believe with the catchment area and league position Cardiff should be getting 30000 every home game at least.

West Brom is a town in its own right and not part of Birmingham.

But then shouldn't you know that if you're a true blue nose and not someone trolling?

I've obviously touched a nerve with my post. I think you will find that West Brom is only a few miles away from Birmingham and not about 50 miles or so like Swansea so it is relevant. And also Wolverhampton is only also only about 18 miles away. The average home attendances are facts like they are for every season. The main point I've had from the start is valid and instead of childish and petty replies maybe just deal with the facts that overall this season Cardiff's support hasn't been that great especially considering Wolves, Leeds and Villa brought a lot of support. We brought 1700 to boost your average crowd as well.