Can’t Compete with Competitors in the Transfer Window?

Can’t Compete with Competitors in the Transfer Window?



Reported in the press that Derby have bid £6m for Flint of Bristol City & also £6m for McLean of WBA. This is on top of the huge amount of transfer fees they have already spent over recent seasons.

Wolves have already spent a fortune this season and are looking to bring in Afobe from Bournemouth.

Leeds have apparently bid £8m for Jordan Pughill of Preston and have already brought in 3/4 new players.

Villa have also spent a fortune and are trying to bring in a new striker.

Bristol City have brought a new striker in.

Boro are also linked with 2 Premiership players this morning.

It seems since the Premier League we have failed to bring in quality and solely relied on loans or bargain basement purchases. A sum was spent on Tomlin but nothing like the figures that all our promotion competitors are investing.

There has been much talk that Grabban was an option but to date no new striker has materialised. Presumably a fee/wages have been a stumbling block. I hope that the deal does come off however can we compete against the other teams in and around us who can clearly see the finish line and promotion to the promised land. No one at the start of the season saw us being 3rd at this stage of the season so should the the club back the manager and give him the tools to get us promoted?

No one would want us to go back to the days of throwing money around for the sake of it but surely being 3rd in the table is a time to loosen the purse strings to bring in some QUALITY to get us over the line? Pointless being so near yet so far at the end of the season?

It’s ffp, you have stay within it or we will get shafted. It’s a good and bad thing depending on your stance but I am pretty sure a few clubs will be breaching it.

I agree we 2 good signings from a real challenge hit ffp dictates and it is proven throwing money doesn’t always work

It’s ffp, you have stay within it or we will get shafted. It’s a good and bad thing depending on your stance but I am pretty sure a few clubs will be breaching it.

I agree we 2 good signings from a real challenge hit ffp dictates and it is proven throwing money doesn’t always work

FFP has always been quoted however we have spent very little money over the previous 3/4 seasons. Surely it doesn’t go on for ever. Other clubs, e.g. Derby, Wolves, Villa have been spending money for fun over recent seasons and don’t seem to be affected by ffp. Only recently, Wolves apparently had a 37 million bid rejected that’s on top of what they spent in the summer!

Derby, Villa and Wolves with anymore signings will break ffp rules...Boro have a huge parachute payment to finance signings..Leedss are using the £18 million they got for Wood in the summer and Bristol have got a multi, multi millionaire owner who wants the club in the premier league

We haven't got any money to compete because OGS wasted it all on substandard players we had to pay off

It’s ffp, you have stay within it or we will get shafted. It’s a good and bad thing depending on your stance but I am pretty sure a few clubs will be breaching it.

I agree we 2 good signings from a real challenge hit ffp dictates and it is proven throwing money doesn’t always work

FFP has always been quoted however we have spent very little money over the previous 3/4 seasons. Surely it doesn’t go on for ever. Other clubs, e.g. Derby, Wolves, Villa have been spending money for fun over recent seasons and don’t seem to be affected by ffp. Only recently, Wolves apparently had a 37 million bid rejected that’s on top of what they spent in the summer!

but its about every day running over the club, when we are getting a half empty stadium how can you expect us to spend any real money?
its also over 4 seasons i believe. We've already been stung by it once, would have been twice if Tan didn't take a hit on money (he wrote off near 10M).
Wolves etc are all banking on promotion. IF it doesn't happen then you will soon see flash sales in the summer.

It’s ffp, you have stay within it or we will get shafted. It’s a good and bad thing depending on your stance but I am pretty sure a few clubs will be breaching it.

I agree we 2 good signings from a real challenge hit ffp dictates and it is proven throwing money doesn’t always work

FFP has always been quoted however we have spent very little money over the previous 3/4 seasons. Surely it doesn’t go on for ever. Other clubs, e.g. Derby, Wolves, Villa have been spending money for fun over recent seasons and don’t seem to be affected by ffp. Only recently, Wolves apparently had a 37 million bid rejected that’s on top of what they spent in the summer!

but its about every day running over the club, when we are getting a half empty stadium how can you expect us to spend any real money?
its also over 4 seasons i believe. We've already been stung by it once, would have been twice if Tan didn't take a hit on money (he wrote off near 10M).
Wolves etc are all banking on promotion. IF it doesn't happen then you will soon see flash sales in the summer.

agree tge clubs we are up against get 30k plus paying huge ticket prices

Money does not guarantee success, and in the January transfer window average players are overpriced as teams become desperate to show that they are ambitious, and are all trying to stay one step ahead of the game. We know only three will go up, so there are going to be several clubs with nothing to show for their big spending. I think our club is going the right way about things, we've been through the big spend times already and where did that get us.

It’s ffp, you have stay within it or we will get shafted. It’s a good and bad thing depending on your stance but I am pretty sure a few clubs will be breaching it.

I agree we 2 good signings from a real challenge hit ffp dictates and it is proven throwing money doesn’t always work

FFP has always been quoted however we have spent very little money over the previous 3/4 seasons. Surely it doesn’t go on for ever. Other clubs, e.g. Derby, Wolves, Villa have been spending money for fun over recent seasons and don’t seem to be affected by ffp. Only recently, Wolves apparently had a 37 million bid rejected that’s on top of what they spent in the summer!

but its about every day running over the club, when we are getting a half empty stadium how can you expect us to spend any real money?
its also over 4 seasons i believe. We've already been stung by it once, would have been twice if Tan didn't take a hit on money (he wrote off near 10M).
Wolves etc are all banking on promotion. IF it doesn't happen then you will soon see flash sales in the summer.

agree tge clubs we are up against get 30k plus paying huge ticket prices

But the bulk of revenue comes from TV.

Money does not guarantee success, and in the January transfer window average players are overpriced as teams become desperate to show that they are ambitious, and are all trying to stay one step ahead of the game. We know only three will go up, so there are going to be several clubs with nothing to show for their big spending. I think our club is going the right way about things, we've been through the big spend times already and where did that get us.

Why do other billionaire owners spend a lot of money and we do Not? Nothing against Tan Sri Vincent Tan personally but can't remember the last big signing he made

Money does not guarantee success, and in the January transfer window average players are overpriced as teams become desperate to show that they are ambitious, and are all trying to stay one step ahead of the game. We know only three will go up, so there are going to be several clubs with nothing to show for their big spending. I think our club is going the right way about things, we've been through the big spend times already and where did that get us.

Why do other billionaire owners spend a lot of money and we do Not? Nothing against tan personally but can't remember the last big signing he made

i think you are a fake account looking to ruffle the feathers, but anyway ill reply.
have a look at this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Fina ... egulations

Money does not guarantee success, and in the January transfer window average players are overpriced as teams become desperate to show that they are ambitious, and are all trying to stay one step ahead of the game. We know only three will go up, so there are going to be several clubs with nothing to show for their big spending. I think our club is going the right way about things, we've been through the big spend times already and where did that get us.

Why do other billionaire owners spend a lot of money and we do Not? Nothing against tan personally but can't remember the last big signing he made

i think you are a fake account looking to ruffle the feathers, but anyway ill reply.
have a look at this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Fina ... egulations

Thank you sir. I'm absolutely not a feather rustler. Wolverhampton are exempt from regulations?

Money does not guarantee success, and in the January transfer window average players are overpriced as teams become desperate to show that they are ambitious, and are all trying to stay one step ahead of the game. We know only three will go up, so there are going to be several clubs with nothing to show for their big spending. I think our club is going the right way about things, we've been through the big spend times already and where did that get us.

Why do other billionaire owners spend a lot of money and we do Not? Nothing against tan personally but can't remember the last big signing he made

i think you are a fake account looking to ruffle the feathers, but anyway ill reply.
have a look at this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Fina ... egulations

Thank you sir. I'm absolutely not a feather rustler. Wolverhampton are exempt from regulations?

As the original headline says, a lot of money being offered or spent by rivals. I think we could afford a big signing I reckon

Money does not guarantee success, and in the January transfer window average players are overpriced as teams become desperate to show that they are ambitious, and are all trying to stay one step ahead of the game. We know only three will go up, so there are going to be several clubs with nothing to show for their big spending. I think our club is going the right way about things, we've been through the big spend times already and where did that get us.

Why do other billionaire owners spend a lot of money and we do Not? Nothing against tan personally but can't remember the last big signing he made

i think you are a fake account looking to ruffle the feathers, but anyway ill reply.
have a look at this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Fina ... egulations

Thank you sir. I'm absolutely not a feather rustler. Wolverhampton are exempt from regulations?

Wolves received alot of money for transfers last season, so they have that to play with. Also they are banking on promotion and the money that comes with it.

Money does not guarantee success, and in the January transfer window average players are overpriced as teams become desperate to show that they are ambitious, and are all trying to stay one step ahead of the game. We know only three will go up, so there are going to be several clubs with nothing to show for their big spending. I think our club is going the right way about things, we've been through the big spend times already and where did that get us.

Why do other billionaire owners spend a lot of money and we do Not? Nothing against tan personally but can't remember the last big signing he made

i think you are a fake account looking to ruffle the feathers, but anyway ill reply.
have a look at this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Fina ... egulations

Thank you sir. I'm absolutely not a feather rustler. Wolverhampton are exempt from regulations?

Wolves received alot of money for transfers last season, so they have that to play with. Also they are banking on promotion and the money that comes with it.

So that's factoring ambition into the equation

Money does not guarantee success, and in the January transfer window average players are overpriced as teams become desperate to show that they are ambitious, and are all trying to stay one step ahead of the game. We know only three will go up, so there are going to be several clubs with nothing to show for their big spending. I think our club is going the right way about things, we've been through the big spend times already and where did that get us.

Totally agree that money does not buy success however fans are not asking the club to go ballistic but to bring in 1 or 2 quality players in to try and get to the promised land and huge financial benefits (£100-200 million)! When the club did splash the cash many years ago we were not sitting in 3rd place in the Championship but trying to survive in the Premiership. Wouldn’t expect the club to spend money if we were sitting mid table however we are in a great position to move on to the next level. Speculate to accumulate? No one wants to see the club go back to the bad days but a piece of controlled spending may help in bringing in huge benefits.

We do not need a big signing we need a proven goal scorer either on loan or bought, then I believe we will take this league apart..just an opinion of course

Tan should gamble with his business. I'm sure he has done similar growing other businesses. Grow or stagnate!

It’s ffp, you have stay within it or we will get shafted. It’s a good and bad thing depending on your stance but I am pretty sure a few clubs will be breaching it.

I agree we 2 good signings from a real challenge hit ffp dictates and it is proven throwing money doesn’t always work

FFP has always been quoted however we have spent very little money over the previous 3/4 seasons. Surely it doesn’t go on for ever. Other clubs, e.g. Derby, Wolves, Villa have been spending money for fun over recent seasons and don’t seem to be affected by ffp. Only recently, Wolves apparently had a 37 million bid rejected that’s on top of what they spent in the summer!

but its about every day running over the club, when we are getting a half empty stadium how can you expect us to spend any real money?
its also over 4 seasons i believe. We've already been stung by it once, would have been twice if Tan didn't take a hit on money (he wrote off near 10M).
Wolves etc are all banking on promotion. IF it doesn't happen then you will soon see flash sales in the summer.

agree tge clubs we are up against get 30k plus paying huge ticket prices

But the bulk of revenue comes from TV.

Not in the championship

Our rivals getting over 30 k week in week out can generate 1 million pound a game we generate a fraction of that

Our rivals getting over 30 k week in week out can generate 1 million pound a game we generate a fraction of that

expensive tickets, glad i dont support this fictional club

Our rivals getting over 30 k week in week out can generate 1 million pound a game we generate a fraction of that

expensive tickets, glad i dont support this fictional club

A crowd of 30k at an average of £35 a ticket (think Leeds united for a start) would be over £1m gross

Even at £30 plus match day food, beverage and merchandise purchases, that figure is not unreasonable for some Championship clubs

30,000 x £35@ = £1,050,000

30,000 x £30@ = £900,000 + food, beverages and match day merchandise = £1m+

It's one thing to 'mock' when people get it wrong; but so embarrassing when you're the one that's wrong!

Our rivals getting over 30 k week in week out can generate 1 million pound a game we generate a fraction of that

expensive tickets, glad i dont support this fictional club

30 k at a rounded 30 pound a ticket is 900k just on gate receipt s that with out hospitality prices etc ?leeds pay close to 40 pound also shef Wednesday's derby wolves they get much more match day revenues than most of the rest of us

Our rivals getting over 30 k week in week out can generate 1 million pound a game we generate a fraction of that

expensive tickets, glad i dont support this fictional club

A crowd of 30k at an average of £35 a ticket (think Leeds united for a start) would be over £1m gross

Even at £30 plus match day food, beverage and merchandise purchases, that figure is not unreasonable for some Championship clubs

30,000 x £35@ = £1,050,000

30,000 x £30@ = £900,000 + food, beverages and match day merchandise = £1m+

It's one thing to 'mock' when people get it wrong; but so embarrassing when you're the one that's wrong!

Thanks Sven i know im right, the fact is the big boys generate more turnover than us

lol youre both crazy


first of all no club sells all those tickets, most are pre bought through season tickets and not 35 quid each (so the leeds example, season tickets for under 500 quid, kids for 69 etc)


what about kids seats? oap? cheaper ones behind the goal

Not really as simple as Attendance X how much away fans pay = match earning



wez dont you own a pub? how much you make off one pint?


be interested to know what a club makes from beer/food but im guessing its not a great deal.

Our rivals getting over 30 k week in week out can generate 1 million pound a game we generate a fraction of that

expensive tickets, glad i dont support this fictional club

30 k at a rounded 30 pound a ticket is 900k just on gate receipt s that with out hospitality prices etc ?leeds pay close to 40 pound also shef Wednesday's derby wolves they get much more match day revenues than most of the rest of us

not disputing that they make more money than we do on a match day, but its not so much more that its blowing us out of the water in the transfer market

Just goes to show even if, big IF we got promoted cant compete with spending against teams in the championship now what chance we would have in the prem again probably still sign players from teams like rotherham and rochdale.Had big hopes at the start of the season slowly fading,know we're still in the top 6 but a stiff long run in.

Just goes to show even if, big IF we got promoted cant compete with spending against teams in the championship now what chance we would have in the prem again probably still sign players from teams like rotherham and rochdale.Had big hopes at the start of the season slowly fading,know we're still in the top 6 but a stiff long run in.

theres more of a level playing field in the premier league, top 6/7 excluded of course, but as thats not where we would be looking to compete then thats ok.

championship isnt really any different, except of course that we are amongst the top 6/7 who are all big spenders

lol youre both crazy


first of all no club sells all those tickets, most are pre bought through season tickets and not 35 quid each (so the leeds example, season tickets for under 500 quid, kids for 69 etc)


what about kids seats? oap? cheaper ones behind the goal

Not really as simple as Attendance X how much away fans pay = match earning



wez dont you own a pub? how much you make off one pint?


be interested to know what a club makes from beer/food but im guessing its not a great deal.

Got rid of the pub over 2 years ago ,Cardiff get 15% of turnover not profit other clubs would get a lot more if its in house and at the prices the clubs charge at the bars they are making alot on match days more fans more money its simple

lol youre both crazy


first of all no club sells all those tickets, most are pre bought through season tickets and not 35 quid each (so the leeds example, season tickets for under 500 quid, kids for 69 etc)


what about kids seats? oap? cheaper ones behind the goal

Not really as simple as Attendance X how much away fans pay = match earning



wez dont you own a pub? how much you make off one pint?


be interested to know what a club makes from beer/food but im guessing its not a great deal.

Tickets vary across the board at all clubs (I gave Leeds United as an example) have crowds well in excess of 30k and charge prices ranging from the mid-20's to the high 50's and above

So, it is reasonable to use an average figure of £30 for a low (in some cases) crowd of 30k, which means Wez is right and you are wrong...simples!

Sometimes it would be better to sit back and check the facts and figures before mocking. That way, you just might have some justification in your desperation to try and put people down at every opportunity

Better you say little and let people think you're a not always right, rather than do something like this and prove it beyond doubt!

lol youre both crazy


first of all no club sells all those tickets, most are pre bought through season tickets and not 35 quid each (so the leeds example, season tickets for under 500 quid, kids for 69 etc)


what about kids seats? oap? cheaper ones behind the goal

Not really as simple as Attendance X how much away fans pay = match earning



wez dont you own a pub? how much you make off one pint?


be interested to know what a club makes from beer/food but im guessing its not a great deal.

QPR selling carlsberg at £4 a bottle. They only cost 35p to buy in. Think of the mark up!