' Tan to blame '

' Tan to blame '


May have my critics about his post but don't really care.

We nearly got relegated last year, then Warnock had 2 million on transfers to spend. He has done an amazing job.

If we get to the playoffs, then I'm sure we will be in the final as a full house in Cardiff will be the difference.

With Derby and Wolves capable of spending tens of millions, we should be proud of where we are. Tan will be to blame if he doesn't invest in January.


If Tan doesn't invest in quality players in the new-year then we stuffed. Lack of fans coming through the gates etc....

We have the right manager in place, so Tan , invest in him.

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How much would you like him to add to the debt?

Another 30 or 40 million?

Let's just ignore the Financial Fair Play regulations and expect the man who is hated by a proportion of our fan base and "blamed" for everything to put his hand in his pocket yet again whilst the wonderful, loyal fans of the club stay away from the stadium in droves?

I will never forgive Tan for what he did to our kit but that has been reversed and at last he has appointed a proper manager. The club is doing everything it can to attract fans back to the stadium with cheap deals, cheap travel etc but still the fickle fans stay away yet expect him to put his hand in his pocket and spend millions more of his own money when we have spent the last few seasons undertaking massive cutbacks which were vital.

Tan can also be "blamed" for allowing Malky and Ole to waste millions of pounds on shit but as far as I'm concerned, nothing that is happening at the club currently can be said to be his "fault".

You can't have everything in this world unfortunately.

Think they have run the club of late with great caution and i agree how they gone about things leasons have been learnt from the which is good.
I think if tans invests in players this month wisely then i think we all would be happy .dont think anybody expect tens of millions including Warnock.
Hopefully we get the lift with new plays that dont break the bank which is what i think will happen .
Two week break now regroup some new players two points if second third in the league weve got out of jail as long as we get back ti winning ways

' Tan to blame '


May have my critics about his post but don't really care.

We nearly got relegated last year, then Warnock had 2 million on transfers to spend. He has done an amazing job.

If we get to the playoffs, then I'm sure we will be in the final as a full house in Cardiff will be the difference.

With Derby and Wolves capable of spending tens of millions, we should be proud of where we are. Tan will be to blame if he doesn't invest in January.


If Tan doesn't invest in quality players in the new-year then we fcuked. Lack of fans coming through the gates etc....

We have the right manager in place, so Tan , invest in him.

i think we spent a tad more than 2mill..maybe not on the ballance of transfer fees but i pretty sure you know this.?
oh..and what happened to your concerns about debt.
sticky...

How much would you like him to add to the debt?

Another 30 or 40 million?

Let's just ignore the Financial Fair Play regulations and expect the man who is hated by a proportion of our fan base and "blamed" for everything to put his hand in his pocket yet again whilst the wonderful, loyal fans of the club stay away from the stadium in droves?

I will never forgive Tan for what he did to our kit but that has been reversed and at last he has appointed a proper manager. The club is doing everything it can to attract fans back to the stadium with cheap deals, cheap travel etc but still the fickle fans stay away yet expect him to put his hand in his pocket and spend millions more of his own money when we have spent the last few seasons undertaking massive cutbacks which were vital.

Tan can also be "blamed" for allowing Malky and Ole to waste millions of pounds on shit but as far as I'm concerned, nothing that is happening at the club currently can be said to be his "fault".

You can't have everything in this world unfortunately.

All the hatred and past aside, Tan simply has to make a business decision; invest a few mill now and improve the very realistic chances of making a huge profit come end of the season. Or don't and risk missing out on even the play offs.

How much would you like him to add to the debt?

Another 30 or 40 million?

Let's just ignore the Financial Fair Play regulations and expect the man who is hated by a proportion of our fan base and "blamed" for everything to put his hand in his pocket yet again whilst the wonderful, loyal fans of the club stay away from the stadium in droves?

I will never forgive Tan for what he did to our kit but that has been reversed and at last he has appointed a proper manager. The club is doing everything it can to attract fans back to the stadium with cheap deals, cheap travel etc but still the fickle fans stay away yet expect him to put his hand in his pocket and spend millions more of his own money when we have spent the last few seasons undertaking massive cutbacks which were vital.

Tan can also be "blamed" for allowing Malky and Ole to waste millions of pounds on shit but as far as I'm concerned, nothing that is happening at the club currently can be said to be his "fault".

You can't have everything in this world unfortunately.

All the hatred and past aside, Tan simply has to make a business decision; invest a few mill now and improve the very realistic chances of making a huge profit come end of the season. Or don't and risk missing out on even the play offs.

he simply can not invest big because of the FFP risks, not so much this season as next when our income takes a 18mill hit and should we fail to get promoted we will still be saddled with the players brought in wages..i figure loan signings..or a couple on modest fees/wages..

How much would you like him to add to the debt?

Another 30 or 40 million?

Let's just ignore the Financial Fair Play regulations and expect the man who is hated by a proportion of our fan base and "blamed" for everything to put his hand in his pocket yet again whilst the wonderful, loyal fans of the club stay away from the stadium in droves?

I will never forgive Tan for what he did to our kit but that has been reversed and at last he has appointed a proper manager. The club is doing everything it can to attract fans back to the stadium with cheap deals, cheap travel etc but still the fickle fans stay away yet expect him to put his hand in his pocket and spend millions more of his own money when we have spent the last few seasons undertaking massive cutbacks which were vital.

Tan can also be "blamed" for allowing Malky and Ole to waste millions of pounds on shit but as far as I'm concerned, nothing that is happening at the club currently can be said to be his "fault".

You can't have everything in this world unfortunately.

Spot on mate.

Not excusing any of what you said about Warnock and the circumstances but when we lose we just gonna say oh but yeah he's had nothing to spend, he can't be excused from criticism and you can't just put this all on Tan, it's a overused excuse to take the shade away from the team and manager when we have a bad spell.

Not sure Derby will have millions to spend. They let Bryson come to us to balance the books.

How much would you like him to add to the debt?

Another 30 or 40 million?

Let's just ignore the Financial Fair Play regulations and expect the man who is hated by a proportion of our fan base and "blamed" for everything to put his hand in his pocket yet again whilst the wonderful, loyal fans of the club stay away from the stadium in droves?

I will never forgive Tan for what he did to our kit but that has been reversed and at last he has appointed a proper manager. The club is doing everything it can to attract fans back to the stadium with cheap deals, cheap travel etc but still the fickle fans stay away yet expect him to put his hand in his pocket and spend millions more of his own money when we have spent the last few seasons undertaking massive cutbacks which were vital.

Tan can also be "blamed" for allowing Malky and Ole to waste millions of pounds on shit but as far as I'm concerned, nothing that is happening at the club currently can be said to be his "fault".

You can't have everything in this world unfortunately.

All the hatred and past aside, Tan simply has to make a business decision; invest a few mill now and improve the very realistic chances of making a huge profit come end of the season. Or don't and risk missing out on even the play offs.

he simply can not invest big because of the FFP risks, not so much this season as next when our income takes a 18mill hit and should we fail to get promoted we will still be saddled with the players brought in wages..i figure loan signings..or a couple on modest fees/wages..

I don't think either of us know exactly where we stand within the ffp regs at the moment. I'm just saying he's got a chance here to do the unexpected where as if we were mid table it would be a big risk. I agree about loans tho but any high profile loan may come with a fee anyway. Yes it's adding to the debt, but it's a calculated risk and the rewards could be huge...

How much would you like him to add to the debt?

Another 30 or 40 million?

Let's just ignore the Financial Fair Play regulations and expect the man who is hated by a proportion of our fan base and "blamed" for everything to put his hand in his pocket yet again whilst the wonderful, loyal fans of the club stay away from the stadium in droves?

I will never forgive Tan for what he did to our kit but that has been reversed and at last he has appointed a proper manager. The club is doing everything it can to attract fans back to the stadium with cheap deals, cheap travel etc but still the fickle fans stay away yet expect him to put his hand in his pocket and spend millions more of his own money when we have spent the last few seasons undertaking massive cutbacks which were vital.

Tan can also be "blamed" for allowing Malky and Ole to waste millions of pounds on shit but as far as I'm concerned, nothing that is happening at the club currently can be said to be his "fault".

You can't have everything in this world unfortunately.

All the hatred and past aside, Tan simply has to make a business decision; invest a few mill now and improve the very realistic chances of making a huge profit come end of the season. Or don't and risk missing out on even the play offs.

This is how I look at it.

How much would you like him to add to the debt?

Another 30 or 40 million?

Let's just ignore the Financial Fair Play regulations and expect the man who is hated by a proportion of our fan base and "blamed" for everything to put his hand in his pocket yet again whilst the wonderful, loyal fans of the club stay away from the stadium in droves?

I will never forgive Tan for what he did to our kit but that has been reversed and at last he has appointed a proper manager. The club is doing everything it can to attract fans back to the stadium with cheap deals, cheap travel etc but still the fickle fans stay away yet expect him to put his hand in his pocket and spend millions more of his own money when we have spent the last few seasons undertaking massive cutbacks which were vital.

Tan can also be "blamed" for allowing Malky and Ole to waste millions of pounds on shit but as far as I'm concerned, nothing that is happening at the club currently can be said to be his "fault".

You can't have everything in this world unfortunately.

All the hatred and past aside, Tan simply has to make a business decision; invest a few mill now and improve the very realistic chances of making a huge profit come end of the season. Or don't and risk missing out on even the play offs.

This is how I look at it.

Thought you said earlier you didn’t want Tan’s money?

How much would you like him to add to the debt?

Another 30 or 40 million?

Let's just ignore the Financial Fair Play regulations and expect the man who is hated by a proportion of our fan base and "blamed" for everything to put his hand in his pocket yet again whilst the wonderful, loyal fans of the club stay away from the stadium in droves?

I will never forgive Tan for what he did to our kit but that has been reversed and at last he has appointed a proper manager. The club is doing everything it can to attract fans back to the stadium with cheap deals, cheap travel etc but still the fickle fans stay away yet expect him to put his hand in his pocket and spend millions more of his own money when we have spent the last few seasons undertaking massive cutbacks which were vital.

Tan can also be "blamed" for allowing Malky and Ole to waste millions of pounds on shit but as far as I'm concerned, nothing that is happening at the club currently can be said to be his "fault".

You can't have everything in this world unfortunately.

All the hatred and past aside, Tan simply has to make a business decision; invest a few mill now and improve the very realistic chances of making a huge profit come end of the season. Or don't and risk missing out on even the play offs.

This is how I look at it.

Thought you said earlier you didn’t want Tan’s money?

All I have said is I don't give a toss if he invests or not.

How much would you like him to add to the debt?

Another 30 or 40 million?

Let's just ignore the Financial Fair Play regulations and expect the man who is hated by a proportion of our fan base and "blamed" for everything to put his hand in his pocket yet again whilst the wonderful, loyal fans of the club stay away from the stadium in droves?

I will never forgive Tan for what he did to our kit but that has been reversed and at last he has appointed a proper manager. The club is doing everything it can to attract fans back to the stadium with cheap deals, cheap travel etc but still the fickle fans stay away yet expect him to put his hand in his pocket and spend millions more of his own money when we have spent the last few seasons undertaking massive cutbacks which were vital.

Tan can also be "blamed" for allowing Malky and Ole to waste millions of pounds on shit but as far as I'm concerned, nothing that is happening at the club currently can be said to be his "fault".

You can't have everything in this world unfortunately.

All the hatred and past aside, Tan simply has to make a business decision; invest a few mill now and improve the very realistic chances of making a huge profit come end of the season. Or don't and risk missing out on even the play offs.

This is how I look at it.

Thought you said earlier you didn’t want Tan’s money?

All I have said is I don't give a toss if he invests or not.

Semantics.

That means you are saying the same thing logically as what I said yet still have to try and argue.

How much would you like him to add to the debt?

Another 30 or 40 million?

Let's just ignore the Financial Fair Play regulations and expect the man who is hated by a proportion of our fan base and "blamed" for everything to put his hand in his pocket yet again whilst the wonderful, loyal fans of the club stay away from the stadium in droves?

I will never forgive Tan for what he did to our kit but that has been reversed and at last he has appointed a proper manager. The club is doing everything it can to attract fans back to the stadium with cheap deals, cheap travel etc but still the fickle fans stay away yet expect him to put his hand in his pocket and spend millions more of his own money when we have spent the last few seasons undertaking massive cutbacks which were vital.

Tan can also be "blamed" for allowing Malky and Ole to waste millions of pounds on shit but as far as I'm concerned, nothing that is happening at the club currently can be said to be his "fault".

You can't have everything in this world unfortunately.

All the hatred and past aside, Tan simply has to make a business decision; invest a few mill now and improve the very realistic chances of making a huge profit come end of the season. Or don't and risk missing out on even the play offs.

he simply can not invest big because of the FFP risks, not so much this season as next when our income takes a 18mill hit and should we fail to get promoted we will still be saddled with the players brought in wages..i figure loan signings..or a couple on modest fees/wages..

I don't think either of us know exactly where we stand within the ffp regs at the moment. I'm just saying he's got a chance here to do the unexpected where as if we were mid table it would be a big risk. I agree about loans tho but any high profile loan may come with a fee anyway. Yes it's adding to the debt, but it's a calculated risk and the rewards could be huge...

my point about FFP was more to do with next season and the loss of 18 mill..

How much would you like him to add to the debt?

Another 30 or 40 million?

Let's just ignore the Financial Fair Play regulations and expect the man who is hated by a proportion of our fan base and "blamed" for everything to put his hand in his pocket yet again whilst the wonderful, loyal fans of the club stay away from the stadium in droves?

I will never forgive Tan for what he did to our kit but that has been reversed and at last he has appointed a proper manager. The club is doing everything it can to attract fans back to the stadium with cheap deals, cheap travel etc but still the fickle fans stay away yet expect him to put his hand in his pocket and spend millions more of his own money when we have spent the last few seasons undertaking massive cutbacks which were vital.

Tan can also be "blamed" for allowing Malky and Ole to waste millions of pounds on shit but as far as I'm concerned, nothing that is happening at the club currently can be said to be his "fault".

You can't have everything in this world unfortunately.

All the hatred and past aside, Tan simply has to make a business decision; invest a few mill now and improve the very realistic chances of making a huge profit come end of the season. Or don't and risk missing out on even the play offs.

This is how I look at it.

Thought you said earlier you didn’t want Tan’s money?

All I have said is I don't give a toss if he invests or not.

Semantics.

That means you are saying the same thing logically as what I said yet still have to try and argue.

What?

Why would Tan invest anymore money when most of the SO CALLED FANS on this site harp back to the rebrand and continually slag him off. If I was Tan I would be telling you all to get stuffed.

So fans want him to convert debt to equity and then run up the debt again. Roughly like taking out a bank loan to clear your credit card, and then immediately running up your credit card debt again. Besides, he has made it clear to everyone that the silly days are over, and that this club must be properly run. Most gamblers would agree that when they gamble their money, more often than not they lose.

Tan to blame fir running the club sensibly, while still trying to support Warnock to win promotion, well done Tan

No for me. We are being run as a proper business now, HMRC are not up our ar*e every month and we are running it sensibly. Tan has said there will be funds to support NW but he wont be throwing massive money into it - to which I fully agree with.

People come on here and give him shyt yet expect him to throw money at us to invest in players. Crowds are not brilliant and lets face it if we were getting in excess of 23k every week which we should really be, more funds would be available.

Spend whats in your remit, that's what we are doing without getting into trouble. Nobody really knows the FFP situation either so we probably couldn't throw millions into the pot even if we wanted to! Time for the so called fans who "walked away when Tan took charge" to get their backsides down the stadium and start investing back in the club

' Tan to blame '


May have my critics about his post but don't really care.

We nearly got relegated last year, then Warnock had 2 million on transfers to spend. He has done an amazing job.

If we get to the playoffs, then I'm sure we will be in the final as a full house in Cardiff will be the difference.

With Derby and Wolves capable of spending tens of millions, we should be proud of where we are. Tan will be to blame if he doesn't invest in January.


If Tan doesn't invest in quality players in the new-year then we stuffed. Lack of fans coming through the gates etc....

We have the right manager in place, so Tan , invest in him.

As Annis has said in another post
" POSITIVITY PLEASE "

so... lets gets this right. where not even 48 hours into a transfer window and people are trying to get the pitch forks out for Tan again.

' Tan to blame '


May have my critics about his post but don't really care.

We nearly got relegated last year, then Warnock had 2 million on transfers to spend. He has done an amazing job.

If we get to the playoffs, then I'm sure we will be in the final as a full house in Cardiff will be the difference.

With Derby and Wolves capable of spending tens of millions, we should be proud of where we are. Tan will be to blame if he doesn't invest in January.


If Tan doesn't invest in quality players in the new-year then we stuffed. Lack of fans coming through the gates etc....

We have the right manager in place, so Tan , invest in him.

Pathetic post and shows the mentality of some of our so called fans

' Tan to blame '


May have my critics about his post but don't really care.

We nearly got relegated last year, then Warnock had 2 million on transfers to spend. He has done an amazing job.

If we get to the playoffs, then I'm sure we will be in the final as a full house in Cardiff will be the difference.

With Derby and Wolves capable of spending tens of millions, we should be proud of where we are. Tan will be to blame if he doesn't invest in January.


If Tan doesn't invest in quality players in the new-year then we stuffed. Lack of fans coming through the gates etc....

We have the right manager in place, so Tan , invest in him.

Pathetic post and shows the mentality of some of our so called fans

Charlie , fancy buying the club?

' Tan to blame '


May have my critics about his post but don't really care.

We nearly got relegated last year, then Warnock had 2 million on transfers to spend. He has done an amazing job.

If we get to the playoffs, then I'm sure we will be in the final as a full house in Cardiff will be the difference.

With Derby and Wolves capable of spending tens of millions, we should be proud of where we are. Tan will be to blame if he doesn't invest in January.


If Tan doesn't invest in quality players in the new-year then we stuffed. Lack of fans coming through the gates etc....



We have the right manager in place, so Tan , invest in him.

Pathetic post and shows the mentality of some of our so called fans

Pathetic quote by you,
We can go up with investment and we have a manager in charge who knows how to get promoted.

' Tan to blame '


May have my critics about his post but don't really care.

We nearly got relegated last year, then Warnock had 2 million on transfers to spend. He has done an amazing job.

If we get to the playoffs, then I'm sure we will be in the final as a full house in Cardiff will be the difference.

With Derby and Wolves capable of spending tens of millions, we should be proud of where we are. Tan will be to blame if he doesn't invest in January.


If Tan doesn't invest in quality players in the new-year then we stuffed. Lack of fans coming through the gates etc....

We have the right manager in place, so Tan , invest in him.

Pathetic post and shows the mentality of some of our so called fans

Charlie , fancy buying the club?

if only I could

Go and support someone else then!

' Tan to blame '


May have my critics about his post but don't really care.

We nearly got relegated last year, then Warnock had 2 million on transfers to spend. He has done an amazing job.

If we get to the playoffs, then I'm sure we will be in the final as a full house in Cardiff will be the difference.

With Derby and Wolves capable of spending tens of millions, we should be proud of where we are. Tan will be to blame if he doesn't invest in January.


If Tan doesn't invest in quality players in the new-year then we stuffed. Lack of fans coming through the gates etc....

We have the right manager in place, so Tan , invest in him.

' Tan to blame '


May have my critics about his post but don't really care.

We nearly got relegated last year, then Warnock had 2 million on transfers to spend. He has done an amazing job.

If we get to the playoffs, then I'm sure we will be in the final as a full house in Cardiff will be the difference.

With Derby and Wolves capable of spending tens of millions, we should be proud of where we are. Tan will be to blame if he doesn't invest in January.


If Tan doesn't invest in quality players in the new-year then we stuffed. Lack of fans coming through the gates etc....



We have the right manager in place, so Tan , invest in him.

Pathetic post and shows the mentality of some of our so called fans

Pathetic quote by you,
We can go up with investment and we have a manager in charge who knows how to get promoted.

The fans who call for investment are the same fans who say the club is in debt. Do you think that if we spend we will go up as you do say that. Its no guarantee.

I just want this club to be run as it is right now, promotion or no promotion.

' Tan to blame '


May have my critics about his post but don't really care.

We nearly got relegated last year, then Warnock had 2 million on transfers to spend. He has done an amazing job.

If we get to the playoffs, then I'm sure we will be in the final as a full house in Cardiff will be the difference.

With Derby and Wolves capable of spending tens of millions, we should be proud of where we are. Tan will be to blame if he doesn't invest in January.


If Tan doesn't invest in quality players in the new-year then we stuffed. Lack of fans coming through the gates etc....



We have the right manager in place, so Tan , invest in him.

Pathetic post and shows the mentality of some of our so called fans

Pathetic quote by you,
We can go up with investment and we have a manager in charge who knows how to get promoted.

Warnock has 7 promotions in 35 years, so he also has plenty of experience of not getting promoted. Tan is trying to get this club to be financially viable, not drowning in even more debt than we have already. Easy to advise someone to gamble when it's not your own money at risk. Let's blame Tan though,it's all his fault we still have a club to follow, and his fault our players now have excellent training facilities, and we can blame him for increasing the stadium capacity to well over 30k while we are at it. Added to the millions and millions he has put into the club, he has a lot to answer for.

A lot of assumptions to date!

It's only 2nd January, we have two weeks to sort things out before the next game and to date no one from the club has said anything overly positive or negative other than the manager, who seems to think he'll be backed by the owner. So let's just wait and see, eh?

A mixture of assumption, guesswork, wishful thinking, smug negativity (from some) and blatant untruths!

If her there was a need for positivity around the camp, this is it! We're still up there!