UPDATED: NEIL WARNOCK: "NO LUCK & REF MAJOR ERROR"

After Cardiff City's 4th consecutive defeat, Warnock blames Ref & Luck.



NEIL WARNOCK: "NO LUCK & REF MAJOR ERROR"


NEIL WARNOCK:

"Things don’t go your way at times but the ref has made a major error. I wonder how he’ll feel about that tonight.”

"I thought we deserved to win. We need to stop feeling sorry for ourselves and hope we get a few decisions.”


"We were well ahead of the game,but didn’t get the luck with decisions"







NEIL WARNOCK:


“It’s hard to take but we have to move on and think how lucky we are to be where we are in the table and hope correct decisions go for us.

“We’ve lost four on the trot now and three of them I don’t know how we’ve lost them. We were so far ahead. The first goal was like Sunday League and that’s our own fault, but I thought we played alright today in certain parts.

“We have a good group, hopefully we can bring one or two in and get one or two back and we can go again – and hopefully we can get over the disappointment and one or two of the dodgy decisions can go for us.”

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Warnock often likes to blame the officials when we lose.

Maybe to cover up his own mistakes?

Warnock often likes to blame the officials when we lose.

Maybe to cover up his own mistakes?

He certainly has a point as we had a goal struck off when it should have stood. Decisions like that change games. There is no doubt the refs are mostly awful and for both sides.

Cant blame the referee all the time.
City have been very poor since the norwich game . We have deservedly lost 4 games in a row down to poor quality football not dodgy decisions by officials.
We have had a few go our way aswell over the season so it evens itself out.

Me and two mates saw the "goal" on sky,and have done the usual by pressing the pause button at various times during the build up. None of us could be 100% certain if he was off or not, especially as the angle was not perfect. Another decision where if you are the attacking side, it is a goal, and vice versa. The ref was always going to be blamed if we lost, just like every other game we have lost.

NEIL WARNOCK:


“It’s hard to take but we have to move on and think how lucky we are to be where we are in the table and hope correct decisions go for us.

“We’ve lost four on the trot now and three of them I don’t know how we’ve lost them. We were so far ahead. The first goal was like Sunday League and that’s our own fault, but I thought we played alright today in certain parts.

“We have a good group, hopefully we can bring one or two in and get one or two back and we can go again – and hopefully we can get over the disappointment and one or two of the dodgy decisions can go for us.”

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NEIL WARNOCK:


“It’s hard to take but we have to move on and think how lucky we are to be where we are in the table and hope correct decisions go for us.

“We’ve lost four on the trot now and three of them I don’t know how we’ve lost them. We were so far ahead. The first goal was like Sunday League and that’s our own fault, but I thought we played alright today in certain parts.

“We have a good group, hopefully we can bring one or two in and get one or two back and we can go again – and hopefully we can get over the disappointment and one or two of the dodgy decisions can go for us.”

Its one or two new hopefuls in now, not three. Well if its one ore two then I hope its one midfielder & a striker.

NEIL WARNOCK:


“It’s hard to take but we have to move on and think how lucky we are to be where we are in the table and hope correct decisions go for us.

“We’ve lost four on the trot now and three of them I don’t know how we’ve lost them. We were so far ahead. The first goal was like Sunday League and that’s our own fault, but I thought we played alright today in certain parts.

“We have a good group, hopefully we can bring one or two in and get one or two back and we can go again – and hopefully we can get over the disappointment and one or two of the dodgy decisions can go for us.”

Its one or two new hopefuls in now, not three. Well if its one ore two then I hope its one midfielder & a striker.

Rick, Tan might have pulled the plug as he's been here for the last three defeats and Warnock had a min of 2 players lined up,with one more looking lightly. Hmmmm?

I don't see our injury situation getting any better. It's quite often injured players pick up more injuries as a result.

I was listening on radio Wales and although commentary will be biased they did say it should of stood as a goal as the ball came off the defender... they didn't have a good word to say about the officials so maybe something in it

Cant blame the referee all the time.
City have been very poor since the norwich game . We have deservedly lost 4 games in a row down to poor quality football not dodgy decisions by officials.
We have had a few go our way aswell over the season so it evens itself out.

You think we deserved to lose today? We had enough chances to win comfortably mistakes cost us not performance.

Me and two mates saw the "goal" on sky,and have done the usual by pressing the pause button at various times during the build up. None of us could be 100% certain if he was off or not, especially as the angle was not perfect. Another decision where if you are the attacking side, it is a goal, and vice versa. The ref was always going to be blamed if we lost, just like every other game we have lost.

He was offside but the point is it was played by their player so not offside well that's what rules say but officials think otherwise? And while NW not happy about done of decisions he does blame some players for not performing as should do.

Cant blame the referee all the time.
City have been very poor since the norwich game . We have deservedly lost 4 games in a row down to poor quality football not dodgy decisions by officials.
We have had a few go our way aswell over the season so it evens itself out.

You think we deserved to lose today? We had enough chances to win comfortably mistakes cost us not performance.

We had chances yes . We didnt take them and they did. They also had 3 very good chances they should have scored from.
I thought we were better but still poor against a very average championship side.
So yes i thought it was the right result.

Refs are undoubtedly playing their part as we have had some shocking decisions such as this one today and the Bolton penalty. On the plus side, the Wurzels got hammered so we are back up to third

Cant blame the referee all the time.
City have been very poor since the norwich game . We have deservedly lost 4 games in a row down to poor quality football not dodgy decisions by officials.
We have had a few go our way aswell over the season so it evens itself out.

You think we deserved to lose today? We had enough chances to win comfortably mistakes cost us not performance.

We had chances yes . We didnt take them and they did. They also had 3 very good chances they should have scored from.
I thought we were better but still poor against a very average championship side.
So yes i thought it was the right result.

Matter of opinion but draw more like right result if take into account goal should have stood as balled played by their player

Cant blame the referee all the time.
City have been very poor since the norwich game . We have deservedly lost 4 games in a row down to poor quality football not dodgy decisions by officials.
We have had a few go our way aswell over the season so it evens itself out.

You think we deserved to lose today? We had enough chances to win comfortably mistakes cost us not performance.

We had chances yes . We didnt take them and they did. They also had 3 very good chances they should have scored from.
I thought we were better but still poor against a very average championship side.
So yes i thought it was the right result.

Matter of opinion but draw more like right result if take into account goal should have stood as balled played by their player

Sometimes you have to watch it again on tv rather than the ground because you get a different viewpoint . Maybe i will change my mind a bit when i see the game later with replays

Cant blame the referee all the time.
City have been very poor since the norwich game . We have deservedly lost 4 games in a row down to poor quality football not dodgy decisions by officials.
We have had a few go our way aswell over the season so it evens itself out.

You think we deserved to lose today? We had enough chances to win comfortably mistakes cost us not performance.

We had chances yes . We didnt take them and they did. They also had 3 very good chances they should have scored from.
I thought we were better but still poor against a very average championship side.
So yes i thought it was the right result.

Matter of opinion but draw more like right result if take into account goal should have stood as balled played by their player

Sometimes you have to watch it again on tv rather than the ground because you get a different viewpoint . Maybe i will change my mind a bit when i see the game later with replays

I've seen it and freeze framed it he's just offside but clearly ball is played by their player so goal should stand! Apparently lino wasn't sure who ball came off so ref went with lino''s original decision

It was yet another horrendous mistake by the officials against us, the QPR player clearly kicked the ball to Hoilett meaning he isn't offside and we are now easily into double figures for the amount of points the officials have robbed from us this season.

However, I don't think it was a penalty for us and conceding the goals we conceded today, we didn't deserve anything from the game. That's twice we have conceded directly from a long throw this season. No team in this division allows us to score from a long throw against them. It isn't good enough and Manga's "effort" at stopping their player from running through to score their second goal was embarrassing.

I wasn't there today, but the highlights show Manga letting their player through several times and unfortunately, he has games like that now and again where mentally, his head appears to be elsewhere. I hope Connolly played well today as I have no idea why he's so far down the pecking order in the first place and I think a Connolly/Bamba partnership will give us some consistent stability to tighten our leaky defence.

It was yet another horrendous mistake by the officials against us, the QPR player clearly kicked the ball to Hoilett meaning he isn't offside and we are now easily into double figures for the amount of points the officials have robbed from us this season.

However, I don't think it was a penalty for us and conceding the goals we conceded today, we didn't deserve anything from the game. That's twice we have conceded directly from a long throw this season. No team in this division allows us to score from a long throw against them. It isn't good enough and Manga's "effort" at stopping their player from running through to score their second goal was embarrassing.

I wasn't there today, but the highlights show Manga letting their player through several times and unfortunately, he has games like that now and again where mentally, his head appears to be elsewhere. I hope Connolly played well today as I have no idea why he's so far down the pecking order in the first place and I think a Connolly/Bamba partnership will give us some consistent stability to tighten our leaky defence.

I was there today Connelly was a big disappointment turned inside out on many occasions and woefully slow

We were awesome today watched the game on ifollow. I thought we where gonna hammer them ken looked a bit sharper and healey as much as i dont rate him YET linked up well with him. I agree with warnock shocking officals today the goal should of stood

I don't think this last week would have put Vincent Tan off supporting his manager. It probably more emphasised the need for it to happen. It seems Neil Warnock has provided a list of desirables but only time will tell if they arrive...at which point we can properly debate Vincent Tan's commitment (or otherwise) to a genuine promotion push!

Personally, I'd be surprised if Tan (maybe with guidance) doesn't realise what a fine job his manager has done and (to date) is far exceeding expectations, therefor providing exceptional value for money and possibly (with promotion) a golden ticket for his (Tan's) debt management plans, i.e. the riches of the Premier League!

not a fan of blaming officials but that was a clear error for the goal

From my advantage in the stand I couldn't understand what the fuss, deliberation and the extraordinary delay in putting up the flag was all about. He was way offside. I came away thinking they got it right. I was completely wrong. It was a terrible decision. As soon as the defender entered the tackle with the intent of playing the ball he had to be onside. It wasn't an unintentional deflection or the like, it was a deliberate attempt to play the ball. The officials new that or there was no deliberation. Quite how they then came up with the wrong decision is shocking. So the crux of the matter is If the defender made a deliberate attempt to play the ball he was not offside - End of. Would he make a tackle in the box not attempting to play the ball - of course not.

I would say I thought the penalty was very soft although I haven't seen a replay of it. There was a much more likely one with about 10 minutes to go.

From my advantage in the stand I couldn't understand what the fuss, deliberation and the extraordinary delay in putting up the flag was all about. He was way offside. I came away thinking they got it right. I was completely wrong. It was a terrible decision. As soon as the defender entered the tackle with the intent of playing the ball he had to be onside. It wasn't an unintentional deflection or the like, it was a deliberate attempt to play the ball. The officials new that or there was no deliberation. Quite how they then came up with the wrong decision is shocking. So the crux of the matter is If the defender made a deliberate attempt to play the ball he was not offside - End of. Would he make a tackle in the box not attempting to play the ball - of course not.

I would say I thought the penalty was very soft although I haven't seen a replay of it. There was a much more likely one with about 10 minutes to go.

Agree. I immediately thought he would be flagged and looked at the linesman but it stayed down and he only put it up when the players were running away celebrating. But we were given a break with the penalty and couldnt capitalise on it.

Cant blame the referee all the time.
City have been very poor since the norwich game . We have deservedly lost 4 games in a row down to poor quality football not dodgy decisions by officials.
We have had a few go our way aswell over the season so it evens itself out.

So disallowing a good goal and the bamba penalty and incompetant refereeing in the other two games was not down to the officials, give us a break will you?

Cant blame the referee all the time.
City have been very poor since the norwich game . We have deservedly lost 4 games in a row down to poor quality football not dodgy decisions by officials.
We have had a few go our way aswell over the season so it evens itself out.

So disallowing a good goal and the bamba penalty and incompetant refereeing in the other two games was not down to the officials, give us a break will you?

Whilst it appears to be blaming officials for defeats take yesterday! that goal is allowed as should have been would we have lost? Doubt it in fact may gone onto win it. As for soft pen he was stopped from jumping for ball soft yes pen yes, on pens win some lose some matter of opinion if it is one, but blatantly wrong decision like goal is game changing and effects results

Cant blame the referee all the time.
City have been very poor since the norwich game . We have deservedly lost 4 games in a row down to poor quality football not dodgy decisions by officials.
We have had a few go our way aswell over the season so it evens itself out.

So disallowing a good goal and the bamba penalty and incompetant refereeing in the other two games was not down to the officials, give us a break will you?

So the dodgy decisions always go against us and not our opponents? The bad decisions that go in our favour don't seem to get much of a mention on this forum. I'm convinced if we lost 8-0 it would be the ref's fault. I think you will find all 24 teams in this league have had crucial decisions go against them and that many of them are the wrong decisions.

I thought we deserved to win yesterday, it was a good fluid performance unlike others recently. We got robbed for the second goal and should have had a couple more penalties. This was one of the games where the referee did really cost us whereas others are scapegoating.

Cant blame the referee all the time.
City have been very poor since the norwich game . We have deservedly lost 4 games in a row down to poor quality football not dodgy decisions by officials.
We have had a few go our way aswell over the season so it evens itself out.

So disallowing a good goal and the bamba penalty and incompetant refereeing in the other two games was not down to the officials, give us a break will you?

So the dodgy decisions always go against us and not our opponents? The bad decisions that go in our favour don't seem to get much of a mention on this forum. I'm convinced if we lost 8-0 it would be the ref's fault. I think you will find all 24 teams in this league have had crucial decisions go against them and that many of them are the wrong decisions.

Yes dodgy decisions go our way but if refer to pens a lot are subjective and can argue black & blue it was one (like Newcastle last season blatant as you can get but not given, and ours yesterday soft but was contact so not wrong decision unless your qpr fan! but can you honestly say that yesterday's wrongly dissallowed goal did not matter in result of game? Or are managers not allowed to voice their opinions on such matters?

Cant blame the referee all the time.
City have been very poor since the norwich game . We have deservedly lost 4 games in a row down to poor quality football not dodgy decisions by officials.
We have had a few go our way aswell over the season so it evens itself out.

So disallowing a good goal and the bamba penalty and incompetant refereeing in the other two games was not down to the officials, give us a break will you?

So the dodgy decisions always go against us and not our opponents? The bad decisions that go in our favour don't seem to get much of a mention on this forum. I'm convinced if we lost 8-0 it would be the ref's fault. I think you will find all 24 teams in this league have had crucial decisions go against them and that many of them are the wrong decisions.

Yes dodgy decisions go our way but if refer to pens a lot are subjective and can argue black & blue it was one (like Newcastle last season blatant as you can get but not given, and ours yesterday soft but was contact so not wrong decision unless your qpr fan! but can you honestly say that yesterday's wrongly dissallowed goal did not matter in result of game? Or are managers not allowed to voice their opinions on such matters?

We get bad decisions that go against us, and we get ones in our favour as well. Managers should certainly be allowed to voice their opinions. What I'm saying is that every time we fail to win a game, this forum will blame it on either the ref, time wasting, dirty play, an opponent who should have been sent off etc. There always has to be an excuse. Personally, I accept that we are not Barcelona or Wolves for that matter, and that we sometimes lose simply because we were not good enough to draw or win. Sometimes we drop points because of a bad decision (and the ref will be slaughtered on here) and sometimes we pick up points because of a bad decision (the ref won't get a mention on here).

My opinion is that we are not treated more harshly than the other 23 teams in the league. We are not 3rd because of anything a ref has done, we are 3rd because we deserve to be 3rd. At the end of the season all teams can look back on one or two decisions that changed a game, but we will all still end up in the position our play has merited.

I think our injuries and lack of depth in our squad have had far more to do with the bad run of results than anything a ref has done to us.

Just my opinion. I have never been one to look for excuses when we lose. I know we are going to be unlucky sometimes, but it will work both ways for us over 46 games. Cup games can be a bit different though when you only get one crack at the opposition.