Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:22 pm
Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:34 pm
Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:37 pm
CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:Egger have always been worse. Police and Media seem to ignore it though for some reason.
I spoke with someone whilst I was in hospital and they told me that on international egg weekends its the busiest time for violence related treatments
Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:40 pm
Forever Blue wrote:CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:Egger have always been worse. Police and Media seem to ignore it though for some reason.
I spoke with someone whilst I was in hospital and they told me that on international egg weekends its the busiest time for violence related treatments
When I had pubs/hotels I had to have double the doormen I did for a football match.
The wreck everything, piss everywhere, molest the women out and its all suppose to be high jinks![]()
Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:41 pm
CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:Egger have always been worse. Police and Media seem to ignore it though for some reason.
I spoke with someone whilst I was in hospital and they told me that on international egg weekends its the busiest time for violence related treatments
When I had pubs/hotels I had to have double the doormen I did for a football match.
The wreck everything, piss everywhere, molest the women out and its all suppose to be high jinks![]()
Mate, the only problems football fans cause is hammering each other which very rarely happens these days.
Rugby fans need the restrictions we have following Cardiff.
Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:46 pm
CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:Egger have always been worse. Police and Media seem to ignore it though for some reason.
I spoke with someone whilst I was in hospital and they told me that on international egg weekends its the busiest time for violence related treatments
When I had pubs/hotels I had to have double the doormen I did for a football match.
The wreck everything, piss everywhere, molest the women out and its all suppose to be high jinks![]()
Mate, the only problems football fans cause is hammering each other which very rarely happens these days.
Rugby fans need the restrictions we have following Cardiff.
Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:49 pm
Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:54 pm
maccydee wrote:CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:CaerphillyBluebird15 wrote:Egger have always been worse. Police and Media seem to ignore it though for some reason.
I spoke with someone whilst I was in hospital and they told me that on international egg weekends its the busiest time for violence related treatments
When I had pubs/hotels I had to have double the doormen I did for a football match.
The wreck everything, piss everywhere, molest the women out and its all suppose to be high jinks![]()
Mate, the only problems football fans cause is hammering each other which very rarely happens these days.
Rugby fans need the restrictions we have following Cardiff.
Picking on innocent people at train stations.
Picking on innocent people on trains.
Beating up innocent people outside various grounds.
Terrorising people at motorway services.
Too much vandalism than I can remember.
Terrorising people in various cities.
That’s just our fans at various points in time watching the city. (Mostly away)
Rugby fans are dickheads after a load of beers and drinking all day but let’s not make out that football fans only hammer each other. As our crowds increase the trouble also increases. There’s just more people watching the rugby than watch us as has been done to death elsewhere.
Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:08 pm
Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:54 pm
Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:05 pm
Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:13 pm
Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:38 pm
bluebird58 wrote:Like everyone else, when they get too much beer on board the stupidity and violence begins amongst the rugby fans, the same as it does with the regular drunken punters on any Saturday night in any big town or city.
Football fans have a history of going out to be deliberately intimidating when stone cold sober, (but possibly with some whizz up their noses. ) The only reason there is less bother at football is that fans are more closely monitored at football.
Don’t delude yourselves that football fans are better behaved.
Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:49 pm
Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:28 pm
WelshPatriot wrote:I'd like somebody link me any CCTV of say a mob of 30-40 rugby fans mob up and actively seek out opposing fans. Once found run at the pub smashing in windows, attacking the opposing fans etc
Come on I'm not for one minute saying rugby fans are saints but there are clear distinctions between why one is viewed worse than the other.
Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:39 pm
Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:00 pm
WelshPatriot wrote:I'd like somebody link me any CCTV of say a mob of 30-40 rugby fans mob up and actively seek out opposing fans. Once found run at the pub smashing in windows, attacking the opposing fans etc
Come on I'm not for one minute saying rugby fans are saints but there are clear distinctions between why one is viewed worse than the other.
Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:01 pm
Gareth (Wilts) wrote:Last weekend I did a return train from Newport to Cardiff. On both trains were ccfc, Brentford and egg fans. I had a great chat with a couple of bees fans. Both trains were full. The football fans that I saw were all impeccably behaved. On the way home there was a small argument with shouting and swearing between a group of egg fans because one lot had thrown food at another group. Absolutely pathetic behaviour.
Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:06 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Gareth (Wilts) wrote:Last weekend I did a return train from Newport to Cardiff. On both trains were ccfc, Brentford and egg fans. I had a great chat with a couple of bees fans. Both trains were full. The football fans that I saw were all impeccably behaved. On the way home there was a small argument with shouting and swearing between a group of egg fans because one lot had thrown food at another group. Absolutely pathetic behaviour.
Gareth, correct and if football fans threw food/drinks etc its called a riot as the police steam straight in causing one.
Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:07 pm
Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:19 pm
CF72Blue wrote:Its the double standards that infuriate me, bad behaviour is bad behaviour regardless of who carries it out. If football fans behave badly they are classed as thugs and are dealt with accordingly. If rugby fans behave badly it is just boys being boys and high jinx.
Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:30 pm
WelshPatriot wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Gareth (Wilts) wrote:Last weekend I did a return train from Newport to Cardiff. On both trains were ccfc, Brentford and egg fans. I had a great chat with a couple of bees fans. Both trains were full. The football fans that I saw were all impeccably behaved. On the way home there was a small argument with shouting and swearing between a group of egg fans because one lot had thrown food at another group. Absolutely pathetic behaviour.
Gareth, correct and if football fans threw food/drinks etc its called a riot as the police steam straight in causing one.
Im merely pointing out why. For years every weekend mobs of marauding football fans would smash up city centres and that's why we are treated differently.
You only look at the clip of Chelsea Cardiff only in 2010 on YouTube. Have you ever seen scenes like that from rugby?
I agree it is pathetic nowadays how you can get a 5 year banning order for sneezing in the wrong direction as a footy fan but I also accept that A. It's kind of self imposed and B. If we weren't clamped down on so hard would I have had the years I've had enjoying Cardiff City with my son since he was aged 4 or would I have kept him away.
Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:01 pm
Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:05 pm
maccydee wrote:Main difference is that trouble from football fans is easily identifiable groups of (more often than not) sober men who are likely to be mobbed up whereas the rugby fans are just groups out on the piss. While still dickheads it’s the same behaviour most weekends in town especially when it’s busy (Black Friday for one example). It’s groups of individuals rather than mob mentality.
The football fans probably have to be stamped on quickly to stop the mob mentality from developing as the consequences are probably a lot worse if they aren’t.
Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:33 pm
pembroke allan wrote:maccydee wrote:Main difference is that trouble from football fans is easily identifiable groups of (more often than not) sober men who are likely to be mobbed up whereas the rugby fans are just groups out on the piss. While still dickheads it’s the same behaviour most weekends in town especially when it’s busy (Black Friday for one example). It’s groups of individuals rather than mob mentality.
The football fans probably have to be stamped on quickly to stop the mob mentality from developing as the consequences are probably a lot worse if they aren’t.
Groups of individuals Surely Cant have such a thing ? Whilst you have case about mob culture at end day disorderly behaviour is same wether at football or in town on a sat night ?
Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:42 pm
Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:25 am
Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:16 am
Forever Blue wrote:CF72Blue wrote:Its the double standards that infuriate me, bad behaviour is bad behaviour regardless of who carries it out. If football fans behave badly they are classed as thugs and are dealt with accordingly. If rugby fans behave badly it is just boys being boys and high jinx.
Absolutely Spot on, just treat us all the same
Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:25 am
Forever Blue wrote:CF72Blue wrote:Its the double standards that infuriate me, bad behaviour is bad behaviour regardless of who carries it out. If football fans behave badly they are classed as thugs and are dealt with accordingly. If rugby fans behave badly it is just boys being boys and high jinx.
Absolutely Spot on, just treat us all the same
Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:26 am