Tomlin's "goal"?

Another example of a player not understanding the rules of the game?

Or did he think that the ref was having such a shit game that he might have actually allowed it?

Then, when he was booked, just kept on arguing with the ref wasting time. Warnock was going mad on the side, trying to get Tomlin back up the field so that the game could restart.

Not sure Tomlin did his cause much good with that particular incident.

Agree, saw Warnock going mad pointing at his wrist saying about the time.

He needs to start in my opinion though. The only through ball played to a striker today came from a Bamba turn and pass in the middle. Ralls and Bryson have no creativity between them.

Another example of a player not understanding the rules of the game?

Or did he think that the ref was having such a shit game that he might have actually allowed it?

Then, when he was booked, just kept on arguing with the ref wasting time. Warnock was going mad on the side, trying to get Tomlin back up the field so that the game could restart.

Not sure Tomlin did his cause much good with that particular incident.

seen refs give them including the one against Marshal at Chelsea which wasnt identical but similar in that the same rule applied..
but at the time this afternoon i was furious with Tomlin.

Another example of a player not understanding the rules of the game?

Or did he think that the ref was having such a shit game that he might have actually allowed it?

Then, when he was booked, just kept on arguing with the ref wasting time. Warnock was going mad on the side, trying to get Tomlin back up the field so that the game could restart.

Not sure Tomlin did his cause much good with that particular incident.

seen refs give them including the one against Marshal at Chelsea which wasnt identical but similar in that the same rule applied..
but at the time this afternoon i was furious with Tomlin.

Wasted 2 mins of our time! as for incident if ball is thrown up in air its deemed in goalies possession so free kick if kicked by opposing player? In marshalls case he actually bounced ball 1st which meant ball was in play from then on.

Another example of a player not understanding the rules of the game?

Or did he think that the ref was having such a shit game that he might have actually allowed it?

Then, when he was booked, just kept on arguing with the ref wasting time. Warnock was going mad on the side, trying to get Tomlin back up the field so that the game could restart.

Not sure Tomlin did his cause much good with that particular incident.

seen refs give them including the one against Marshal at Chelsea which wasnt identical but similar in that the same rule applied..
but at the time this afternoon i was furious with Tomlin.

Ref had his back to the play at Chelsea and didn't see Eto'o kick the ball when Marshall bounced it.If he had seen it, he would have had to disallow it.

Another example of a player not understanding the rules of the game?

Or did he think that the ref was having such a shit game that he might have actually allowed it?

Then, when he was booked, just kept on arguing with the ref wasting time. Warnock was going mad on the side, trying to get Tomlin back up the field so that the game could restart.

Not sure Tomlin did his cause much good with that particular incident.

seen refs give them including the one against Marshal at Chelsea which wasnt identical but similar in that the same rule applied..
but at the time this afternoon i was furious with Tomlin.

Wasted 2 mins of our time! as for incident if ball is thrown up in air its deemed in goalies possession so free kick if kicked by opposing player? In marshalls case he actually bounced ball 1st which meant ball was in play from then on.

How can there be a difference between the keeper bouncing the ball and the keeper throwing the ball up in the air? The Eto'o goal was allowed, Tomlin's should have been allowed. But of course, both Chelsea and Millwall are London, so the decision will always go against us.

Another example of a player not understanding the rules of the game?

Or did he think that the ref was having such a shit game that he might have actually allowed it?

Then, when he was booked, just kept on arguing with the ref wasting time. Warnock was going mad on the side, trying to get Tomlin back up the field so that the game could restart.

Not sure Tomlin did his cause much good with that particular incident.

seen refs give them including the one against Marshal at Chelsea which wasnt identical but similar in that the same rule applied..
but at the time this afternoon i was furious with Tomlin.

Wasted 2 mins of our time! as for incident if ball is thrown up in air its deemed in goalies possession so free kick if kicked by opposing player? In marshalls case he actually bounced ball 1st which meant ball was in play from then on.

How can there be a difference between the keeper bouncing the ball and the keeper throwing the ball up in the air? The Eto'o goal was allowed, Tomlin's should have been allowed. But of course, both Chelsea and Millwall are London, so the decision will always go against us.

There is no need for a keeper to bounce a ball, for a keeper to kick it he needs to let go of it. If Tomlins goal was allowed to stand then goalkeepers would need to throw the ball out from now on because strikers would do what Tomlin did everytime. Stupid from Tomlin and just wasted time.

Tomlin needs to start games where it’s obvious teams are going to try to frustrate us though. Bryson or Ralls are tidy and neat in possession but are unlikely to open up a defence.

Another example of a player not understanding the rules of the game?

Or did he think that the ref was having such a shit game that he might have actually allowed it?

Then, when he was booked, just kept on arguing with the ref wasting time. Warnock was going mad on the side, trying to get Tomlin back up the field so that the game could restart.

Not sure Tomlin did his cause much good with that particular incident.

seen refs give them including the one against Marshal at Chelsea which wasnt identical but similar in that the same rule applied..
but at the time this afternoon i was furious with Tomlin.

Wasted 2 mins of our time! as for incident if ball is thrown up in air its deemed in goalies possession so free kick if kicked by opposing player? In marshalls case he actually bounced ball 1st which meant ball was in play from then on.

How can there be a difference between the keeper bouncing the ball and the keeper throwing the ball up in the air? The Eto'o goal was allowed, Tomlin's should have been allowed. But of course, both Chelsea and Millwall are London, so the decision will always go against us.

There is no need for a keeper to bounce a ball, for a keeper to kick it he needs to let go of it. If Tomlins goal was allowed to stand then goalkeepers would need to throw the ball out from now on because strikers would do what Tomlin did everytime. Stupid from Tomlin and just wasted time.

Tomlin needs to start games where it’s obvious teams are going to try to frustrate us though. Bryson or Ralls are tidy and neat in possession but are unlikely to open up a defence.

Whether the keeper needs to bounce the ball or not is irrelevant. The keeper is either in possession or not in possession when he chooses to release the ball, whether that's to bounce it, throw it in the air to kick etc shouldn't make any difference. The Eto'o goal was allowed, so for consistency, Tomlin's today should have been allowed.

Referees giving different decisions for the same situations creates inconsistency throughout the game and when the decision goes against you, it's so annoying. We had what I believe to be a perfectly good goal disallowed today, as I always thought since the Eto'o goal was given against us that as soon as the keeper lets go of the ball, it's in open play.

I think both referees need to have a get together so they can work out what the correct decision actually is in this instance, as they clearly disagree!

The goalie is deemed to be in possession of the ball, if holding it in his hand, trapping it against the ground, trapping it against his body, bouncing it on the ground, or tossing it in the air. He is only supposed to keep possession of it for 6 seconds, but the fact is that Eto's goal at Chelsea should have been disallowed, even though Marshall shouldn't have been dull enough to bounce it, until he'd made sure there was no opposition player present. He gave the referee a decision to make, which the referee got wrong. In today's match their keeper tossed the ball into the air to kick it up-field and by the laws of football, was deemed to be in possession of the ball and it was rightly disallowed.

If Tomlin's type of challenge was ever deemed to be legal, then we'd never get the ball kicked up-field into play and we'd waste a shit load more of time, just like Tomlin did today.

Another example of a player not understanding the rules of the game?

Or did he think that the ref was having such a shit game that he might have actually allowed it?

Then, when he was booked, just kept on arguing with the ref wasting time. Warnock was going mad on the side, trying to get Tomlin back up the field so that the game could restart.

Not sure Tomlin did his cause much good with that particular incident.

seen refs give them including the one against Marshal at Chelsea which wasnt identical but similar in that the same rule applied..
but at the time this afternoon i was furious with Tomlin.

Wasted 2 mins of our time! as for incident if ball is thrown up in air its deemed in goalies possession so free kick if kicked by opposing player? In marshalls case he actually bounced ball 1st which meant ball was in play from then on.

How can there be a difference between the keeper bouncing the ball and the keeper throwing the ball up in the air? The Eto'o goal was allowed, Tomlin's should have been allowed. But of course, both Chelsea and Millwall are London, so the decision will always go against us.

There is no need for a keeper to bounce a ball, for a keeper to kick it he needs to let go of it. If Tomlins goal was allowed to stand then goalkeepers would need to throw the ball out from now on because strikers would do what Tomlin did everytime. Stupid from Tomlin and just wasted time.

Tomlin needs to start games where it’s obvious teams are going to try to frustrate us though. Bryson or Ralls are tidy and neat in possession but are unlikely to open up a defence.

Whether the keeper needs to bounce the ball or not is irrelevant. The keeper is either in possession or not in possession when he chooses to release the ball, whether that's to bounce it, throw it in the air to kick etc shouldn't make any difference. The Eto'o goal was allowed, so for consistency, Tomlin's today should have been allowed.

Referees giving different decisions for the same situations creates inconsistency throughout the game and when the decision goes against you, it's so annoying. We had what I believe to be a perfectly good goal disallowed today, as I always thought since the Eto'o goal was given against us that as soon as the keeper lets go of the ball, it's in open play.

I think both referees need to have a get together so they can work out what the correct decision actually is in this instance, as they clearly disagree!

Your summary is wrong, as there is a specific rule to cover goalkeeper's possession of the ball, which I've put in my previous post.

The referee at Chelsea got the rule wrong and whilst today's referee was poor overall, the one decision he got right, was to disallow Tomlin's goal and book the tit.

To say that because we were wronged at Chelsea 3 or 4 years ago, that today's referee should have given us the goal is silly.

Another example of a player not understanding the rules of the game?

Or did he think that the ref was having such a shit game that he might have actually allowed it?

Then, when he was booked, just kept on arguing with the ref wasting time. Warnock was going mad on the side, trying to get Tomlin back up the field so that the game could restart.

Not sure Tomlin did his cause much good with that particular incident.

seen refs give them including the one against Marshal at Chelsea which wasnt identical but similar in that the same rule applied..
but at the time this afternoon i was furious with Tomlin.

Wasted 2 mins of our time! as for incident if ball is thrown up in air its deemed in goalies possession so free kick if kicked by opposing player? In marshalls case he actually bounced ball 1st which meant ball was in play from then on.

How can there be a difference between the keeper bouncing the ball and the keeper throwing the ball up in the air? The Eto'o goal was allowed, Tomlin's should have been allowed. But of course, both Chelsea and Millwall are London, so the decision will always go against us.

There is no need for a keeper to bounce a ball, for a keeper to kick it he needs to let go of it. If Tomlins goal was allowed to stand then goalkeepers would need to throw the ball out from now on because strikers would do what Tomlin did everytime. Stupid from Tomlin and just wasted time.

Tomlin needs to start games where it’s obvious teams are going to try to frustrate us though. Bryson or Ralls are tidy and neat in possession but are unlikely to open up a defence.

Whether the keeper needs to bounce the ball or not is irrelevant. The keeper is either in possession or not in possession when he chooses to release the ball, whether that's to bounce it, throw it in the air to kick etc shouldn't make any difference. The Eto'o goal was allowed, so for consistency, Tomlin's today should have been allowed.

Referees giving different decisions for the same situations creates inconsistency throughout the game and when the decision goes against you, it's so annoying. We had what I believe to be a perfectly good goal disallowed today, as I always thought since the Eto'o goal was given against us that as soon as the keeper lets go of the ball, it's in open play.

I think both referees need to have a get together so they can work out what the correct decision actually is in this instance, as they clearly disagree!

Of course its relevant the rule is if ball is in possession of goalie opponent cannot kick ball unless its touches ground! At no point does ball touch ground? Its not as if goalie didn't see tomlin unlike Marshall incident who bounced ball on ground so wasn't identical situation.

Another example of a player not understanding the rules of the game?

Or did he think that the ref was having such a shit game that he might have actually allowed it?

Then, when he was booked, just kept on arguing with the ref wasting time. Warnock was going mad on the side, trying to get Tomlin back up the field so that the game could restart.

Not sure Tomlin did his cause much good with that particular incident.

seen refs give them including the one against Marshal at Chelsea which wasnt identical but similar in that the same rule applied..
but at the time this afternoon i was furious with Tomlin.

Wasted 2 mins of our time! as for incident if ball is thrown up in air its deemed in goalies possession so free kick if kicked by opposing player? In marshalls case he actually bounced ball 1st which meant ball was in play from then on.

How can there be a difference between the keeper bouncing the ball and the keeper throwing the ball up in the air? The Eto'o goal was allowed, Tomlin's should have been allowed. But of course, both Chelsea and Millwall are London, so the decision will always go against us.

There is no need for a keeper to bounce a ball, for a keeper to kick it he needs to let go of it. If Tomlins goal was allowed to stand then goalkeepers would need to throw the ball out from now on because strikers would do what Tomlin did everytime. Stupid from Tomlin and just wasted time.

Tomlin needs to start games where it’s obvious teams are going to try to frustrate us though. Bryson or Ralls are tidy and neat in possession but are unlikely to open up a defence.

Whether the keeper needs to bounce the ball or not is irrelevant. The keeper is either in possession or not in possession when he chooses to release the ball, whether that's to bounce it, throw it in the air to kick etc shouldn't make any difference. The Eto'o goal was allowed, so for consistency, Tomlin's today should have been allowed.

Referees giving different decisions for the same situations creates inconsistency throughout the game and when the decision goes against you, it's so annoying. We had what I believe to be a perfectly good goal disallowed today, as I always thought since the Eto'o goal was given against us that as soon as the keeper lets go of the ball, it's in open play.

I think both referees need to have a get together so they can work out what the correct decision actually is in this instance, as they clearly disagree!

If that’s the case then all goalkeepers are going to need to throw the ball out.

Ref got the eto’o 1 wrong, ref today got it right

Incorrect. Marshall technical had control of the ball.
Its the 6 seconds that's the rule. He can bounce it and you cannot attempt to kick the ball. .it Was talked about lengthy after Marshall done it.

Right looked at the rules and basically the ball is in goalies possession once hes picked it up and he can bounce it juggle it as many times in 6 seconds as he likes and ball is still in his possession so opponent cannot touch ball! Ball is only deemed out of his possession when he actually throws or kicks ball

Another example of a player not understanding the rules of the game?

Or did he think that the ref was having such a shit game that he might have actually allowed it?

Then, when he was booked, just kept on arguing with the ref wasting time. Warnock was going mad on the side, trying to get Tomlin back up the field so that the game could restart.

Not sure Tomlin did his cause much good with that particular incident.

seen refs give them including the one against Marshal at Chelsea which wasnt identical but similar in that the same rule applied..
but at the time this afternoon i was furious with Tomlin.

Ref had his back to the play at Chelsea and didn't see Eto'o kick the ball when Marshall bounced it.If he had seen it, he would have had to disallow it.

its why i said i was furious with Tomlin...
and also said seen them given..

Another example of a player not understanding the rules of the game?

Or did he think that the ref was having such a shit game that he might have actually allowed it?

Then, when he was booked, just kept on arguing with the ref wasting time. Warnock was going mad on the side, trying to get Tomlin back up the field so that the game could restart.

Not sure Tomlin did his cause much good with that particular incident.

seen refs give them including the one against Marshal at Chelsea which wasnt identical but similar in that the same rule applied..
but at the time this afternoon i was furious with Tomlin.

Ref had his back to the play at Chelsea and didn't see Eto'o kick the ball when Marshall bounced it.If he had seen it, he would have had to disallow it.

Shame linesman and 4th official wasnt looking either? Begs question what were officials looking at? a streaker!!

Neither the Chelsea goal or today's effort were legit.

Seemed like Tomlin was desperate to make a point

In fairness to him he had our best effort of the 2nd half.

We need to start him - or at least give him more game time as we are looking stale

Goalkeeper had the ball for past 10 seconds, goal should have stood.

That was Tomlins point

He was trying to get the keeper to over handle the ball which the keeper did. He can stand where ever he wants before the keeper kicks it out it’s the keepers priority to release the ball within the count.

The only stupid thing was to try and block it as he kicked it but if you saw he actually made the past 6 sec point to the ref...silly and not needed but maybe a little message to the gaffer? What if the keeper kicks it into Tomlin - he’s not gone for it he’s just in his way??

Another example of a player not understanding the rules of the game?

Or did he think that the ref was having such a shit game that he might have actually allowed it?

Then, when he was booked, just kept on arguing with the ref wasting time. Warnock was going mad on the side, trying to get Tomlin back up the field so that the game could restart.

Not sure Tomlin did his cause much good with that particular incident.

seen refs give them including the one against Marshal at Chelsea which wasnt identical but similar in that the same rule applied..
but at the time this afternoon i was furious with Tomlin.

Wasted 2 mins of our time! as for incident if ball is thrown up in air its deemed in goalies possession so free kick if kicked by opposing player? In marshalls case he actually bounced ball 1st which meant ball was in play from then on.

How can there be a difference between the keeper bouncing the ball and the keeper throwing the ball up in the air? The Eto'o goal was allowed, Tomlin's should have been allowed. But of course, both Chelsea and Millwall are London, so the decision will always go against us.

Do you know anything about football at all!?
The ball was in the goalkeepers possession. No goal. The referee was right.
Do you really believe the referee thought - ‘oh hang on this team in the white are from London so I’ve got to give them the decision’!?

That was Tomlins point

He was trying to get the keeper to over handle the ball which the keeper did. He can stand where ever he wants before the keeper kicks it out it’s the keepers priority to release the ball within the count.

The only stupid thing was to try and block it as he kicked it but if you saw he actually made the past 6 sec point to the ref...silly and not needed but maybe a little message to the gaffer? What if the keeper kicks it into Tomlin - he’s not gone for it he’s just in his way??

No, the player cannot stand wherever he wants.

He’s not offside til the balls kicked

That was Tomlins point

He was trying to get the keeper to over handle the ball which the keeper did. He can stand where ever he wants before the keeper kicks it out it’s the keepers priority to release the ball within the count.

The only stupid thing was to try and block it as he kicked it but if you saw he actually made the past 6 sec point to the ref...silly and not needed but maybe a little message to the gaffer? What if the keeper kicks it into Tomlin - he’s not gone for it he’s just in his way??

No, the player cannot stand wherever he wants.

Player is not allowed to stand in front or stop goalie from
Moving forward if he does its a yellow card ! Hence tomlin stood to side of him.

That was Tomlins point

He was trying to get the keeper to over handle the ball which the keeper did. He can stand where ever he wants before the keeper kicks it out it’s the keepers priority to release the ball within the count.

The only stupid thing was to try and block it as he kicked it but if you saw he actually made the past 6 sec point to the ref...silly and not needed but maybe a little message to the gaffer? What if the keeper kicks it into Tomlin - he’s not gone for it he’s just in his way??

No, the player cannot stand wherever he wants.

Player is not allowed to stand in front or stop goalie from
Moving forward if he does its a yellow card ! Hence tomlin stood to side of him.

Hence my post. Read it.
Your response should have been directed at blue barber who said he CAN stand wherever he wants.

If Tomlin had wasted 20 mins we still wouldn't have scored. Warnock's team selection far too negative
Tomlin must start Tuesday.

If Tomlin had wasted 20 mins we still wouldn't have scored. Warnock's team selection far too negative
Tomlin must start Tuesday.

I agree.

shocked at the opinions of this by fans who clearly have zero knowledge of football but will then snigger at the idea Tan might think that keepers should shoot more .
if allowed youd see it everytime a keeper picked the ball up..
and no you cant behave like a line backer preventing the kick for 6 seconds....jeez.

Another example of a player not understanding the rules of the game?

Or did he think that the ref was having such a shit game that he might have actually allowed it?

Then, when he was booked, just kept on arguing with the ref wasting time. Warnock was going mad on the side, trying to get Tomlin back up the field so that the game could restart.

Not sure Tomlin did his cause much good with that particular incident.

seen refs give them including the one against Marshal at Chelsea which wasnt identical but similar in that the same rule applied..
but at the time this afternoon i was furious with Tomlin.

Ref had his back to the play at Chelsea and didn't see Eto'o kick the ball when Marshall bounced it.If he had seen it, he would have had to disallow it.

Shame linesman and 4th official wasnt looking either? Begs question what were officials looking at? a streaker!!

In the Chelsea game both the linesman and the fourth official saw the incident but the ref had turned his back when the incident occurred.

But linesmen and fourth officials NEVER overrule the referee. It seems to be an unwritten rule that unless the referee asks the linesman for his opinion then the linesman just keeps quiet and says nothing. How often do you see the chumps even waiting for the ref to say which way a throw is to go before they raise their flag?

Another example of a player not understanding the rules of the game?

Or did he think that the ref was having such a shit game that he might have actually allowed it?

Then, when he was booked, just kept on arguing with the ref wasting time. Warnock was going mad on the side, trying to get Tomlin back up the field so that the game could restart.

Not sure Tomlin did his cause much good with that particular incident.

seen refs give them including the one against Marshal at Chelsea which wasnt identical but similar in that the same rule applied..
but at the time this afternoon i was furious with Tomlin.

Ref had his back to the play at Chelsea and didn't see Eto'o kick the ball when Marshall bounced it.If he had seen it, he would have had to disallow it.

Shame linesman and 4th official wasnt looking either? Begs question what were officials looking at? a streaker!!

In the Chelsea game both the linesman and the fourth official saw the incident but the ref had turned his back when the incident occurred.

But linesmen and fourth officials NEVER overrule the referee. It seems to be an unwritten rule that unless the referee asks the linesman for his opinion then the linesman just keeps quiet and says nothing. How often do you see the chumps even waiting for the ref to say which way a throw is to go before they raise their flag?

I know it happened yesterday at one point! Refs seem to think they are god and dont need to ask anyone their opinion as to what actually happened when don't see or know what went on! As for yesterday ref was correct with tomlin

That was Tomlins point

He was trying to get the keeper to over handle the ball which the keeper did. He can stand where ever he wants before the keeper kicks it out it’s the keepers priority to release the ball within the count.

The only stupid thing was to try and block it as he kicked it but if you saw he actually made the past 6 sec point to the ref...silly and not needed but maybe a little message to the gaffer? What if the keeper kicks it into Tomlin - he’s not gone for it he’s just in his way??

No, the player cannot stand wherever he wants.

Player is not allowed to stand in front or stop goalie from
Moving forward if he does its a yellow card ! Hence tomlin stood to side of him.

Hence my post. Read it.
Your response should have been directed at blue barber who said he CAN stand wherever he wants.

It was aimed at him was just reinforcing what you've been saying!