' RED OR WHITE POPPY? '

For me if they want to sell the White poppy sell it during another part of our year,but why now? ?


' RED OR WHITE POPPY? '


They have now brought out a White poppy recognises all victims.


Red Poppies represent the Armed forces of the UK and have always been sold.



he white poppy is a flower used as a symbol of pacifism, worn as an alternative to, or complement to, the red remembrance poppy for Remembrance Day or Anzac Day.




The first Red Poppy Appeal was held in 1921, which was the founding year of The Royal British Legion

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100% spot on.

I don't really get upset by most of the stuff that people keep coming out with these days but to change the tradition of remembrance day is sick.

As you say, the day is designed for remembering all our fallen heroes. If they want to remember other people then crack on but they should not hijack remembrance day to do so.

The two are completely separate and could potentially turn into a political clash if the Jeremy Corbyns of this world start using the day to commemorate some of his "friends"

100% spot on.

I don't really get upset by most of the stuff that people keep coming out with these days but to change the tradition of remembrance day is sick.

As you say, the day is designed for remembering all our fallen heroes. If they want to remember other people then crack on but they should not hijack remembrance day to do so.

The two are completely separate and could potentially turn into a political clash if the Jeremy Corbyns of this world start using the day to commemorate some of his "friends"

Spot on

red all day. Think it's a disgrace they try push anything different

red all day. Think it's a disgrace they try push anything different

I agree, Total Disgrace.

Unfortunately it sums up the state of mind of many in this country that they can take offence to something like the 'poppy'

Disgusting.

Red!! white as no place on remembrance Sunday!

What exactly is the disgrace here? The red poppy isn't used to commemorate WW1 anymore but for all of the British armed forces. Some people who might have been against sending troops to the middle East or lost loved ones in Iraq or Afghanistan might want to wear a white poppy to show their pacifism against a war of that nature.
The same could be said for the Irish who were on the wrong end of the British army during the troubles. (James McLean for example).

I hardly see this as an attempt to hijack the red poppy just an alternative way to respect the fallen

The red poppy stands for something the clowns who thought of this idea could never understand.

Now the RBL and their distribution of money I disagree with however the red poppy is a sign of respect and must be continued.

What exactly is the disgrace here? The red poppy isn't used to commemorate WW1 anymore but for all of the British armed forces. Some people who might have been against sending troops to the middle East or lost loved ones in Iraq or Afghanistan might want to wear a white poppy to show their pacifism against a war of that nature.
The same could be said for the Irish who were on the wrong end of the British army during the troubles. (James McLean for example).

I hardly see this as an attempt to hijack the red poppy just an alternative way to respect the fallen

The "disgrace" is that 'Remembrance Day' was created in memory of those who fell during World War I and is the sole reason it is commemorated at the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month; the precise time the Armistice papers which officially ended that specific war were signed. Red poppies were a very relevant symbol of that particular war and its battle fields and it is only right and proper that it should remain so!

With regard to remembering all British soldiers that fell in all conflicts since is only right and proper and there is no reason that this should not be done (as it is) on the same day. The British public respect that in the main and they also respect that the synonymous symbol of the day is the red poppy . In my personal opinion, the timing/suggestion of a white poppy is made many times worse/disrespectful when you consider next year's event marks 100 years since the end of the founder conflict!

I have nothing but admiration and respect for any member of the armed/public services that have laid their lives down in the protection of this country and its freedom and I can understand why a white poppy (or other relevant symbol) might be used to commemorate specific groups on specific days other than on 11th November; that's Red Poppy Day and should remain so

What exactly is the disgrace here? The red poppy isn't used to commemorate WW1 anymore but for all of the British armed forces. Some people who might have been against sending troops to the middle East or lost loved ones in Iraq or Afghanistan might want to wear a white poppy to show their pacifism against a war of that nature.
The same could be said for the Irish who were on the wrong end of the British army during the troubles. (James McLean for example).

I hardly see this as an attempt to hijack the red poppy just an alternative way to respect the fallen

So after 98yrs or so its felt that someone needs to add another colour to armistice day, That's got totally no relevance to our armed forces? If thats not hijacking it why is it being pushed onto 11/11 by anyone? Why not xmas or jan 1st ect ect

What exactly is the disgrace here? The red poppy isn't used to commemorate WW1 anymore but for all of the British armed forces. Some people who might have been against sending troops to the middle East or lost loved ones in Iraq or Afghanistan might want to wear a white poppy to show their pacifism against a war of that nature.
The same could be said for the Irish who were on the wrong end of the British army during the troubles. (James McLean for example).

I hardly see this as an attempt to hijack the red poppy just an alternative way to respect the fallen

So after 98yrs or so its felt that someone needs to add another colour to armistice day, That's got totally no relevance to our armed forces? If thats not hijacking it why is it being pushed onto 11/11 by anyone? Why not xmas or jan 1st ect ect

The white poppy has been worn officially as a symbol of pacifism since 1933. It’s just become more popular in recent years due to the traditional poppy being politicised as a symbol for wars such as Afghanistan and the troubles. No one would have a problem if it was just for WW1 and 2

What exactly is the disgrace here? The red poppy isn't used to commemorate WW1 anymore but for all of the British armed forces. Some people who might have been against sending troops to the middle East or lost loved ones in Iraq or Afghanistan might want to wear a white poppy to show their pacifism against a war of that nature.
The same could be said for the Irish who were on the wrong end of the British army during the troubles. (James McLean for example).

I hardly see this as an attempt to hijack the red poppy just an alternative way to respect the fallen

So after 98yrs or so its felt that someone needs to add another colour to armistice day, That's got totally no relevance to our armed forces? If thats not hijacking it why is it being pushed onto 11/11 by anyone? Why not xmas or jan 1st ect ect

The white poppy has been worn officially as a symbol of pacifism since 1933. It’s just become more popular in recent years due to the traditional poppy being politicised as a symbol for wars such as Afghanistan and the troubles. No one would have a problem if it was just for WW1 and 2

The red poppy has been politicised by the left, who by no surprise are predominantly behind the white poppy.

It's once a year when the country takes time out to remember those who bravely gave their lives fighting for the freedoms we enjoy today, sadly being overshadowed by a movement pushing their white poppy agenda and using the money for means other than charitable.

What exactly is the disgrace here? The red poppy isn't used to commemorate WW1 anymore but for all of the British armed forces. Some people who might have been against sending troops to the middle East or lost loved ones in Iraq or Afghanistan might want to wear a white poppy to show their pacifism against a war of that nature.
The same could be said for the Irish who were on the wrong end of the British army during the troubles. (James McLean for example).

I hardly see this as an attempt to hijack the red poppy just an alternative way to respect the fallen

So after 98yrs or so its felt that someone needs to add another colour to armistice day, That's got totally no relevance to our armed forces? If thats not hijacking it why is it being pushed onto 11/11 by anyone? Why not xmas or jan 1st ect ect

The white poppy has been worn officially as a symbol of pacifism since 1933. It’s just become more popular in recent years due to the traditional poppy being politicised as a symbol for wars such as Afghanistan and the troubles. No one would have a problem if it was just for WW1 and 2

So peopl have had 84yrs for it to be used on 11th nov but hasnt so why now? Where as it been used officially past 84yrs?
As been posted its a symbol of passifsm which is at odds with commemorating fallen soldiers

What exactly is the disgrace here? The red poppy isn't used to commemorate WW1 anymore but for all of the British armed forces. Some people who might have been against sending troops to the middle East or lost loved ones in Iraq or Afghanistan might want to wear a white poppy to show their pacifism against a war of that nature.
The same could be said for the Irish who were on the wrong end of the British army during the troubles. (James McLean for example).

I hardly see this as an attempt to hijack the red poppy just an alternative way to respect the fallen

So after 98yrs or so its felt that someone needs to add another colour to armistice day, That's got totally no relevance to our armed forces? If thats not hijacking it why is it being pushed onto 11/11 by anyone? Why not xmas or jan 1st ect ect

The white poppy has been worn officially as a symbol of pacifism since 1933. It’s just become more popular in recent years due to the traditional poppy being politicised as a symbol for wars such as Afghanistan and the troubles. No one would have a problem if it was just for WW1 and 2

So our troops killed by the Taliban or the IRA don't deserve to be remembered, what a shameful post. The only people politicising the poppy are self loathing leftwing idiots who despise this country.

White

What exactly is the disgrace here? The red poppy isn't used to commemorate WW1 anymore but for all of the British armed forces. Some people who might have been against sending troops to the middle East or lost loved ones in Iraq or Afghanistan might want to wear a white poppy to show their pacifism against a war of that nature.
The same could be said for the Irish who were on the wrong end of the British army during the troubles. (James McLean for example).

I hardly see this as an attempt to hijack the red poppy just an alternative way to respect the fallen

So after 98yrs or so its felt that someone needs to add another colour to armistice day, That's got totally no relevance to our armed forces? If thats not hijacking it why is it being pushed onto 11/11 by anyone? Why not xmas or jan 1st ect ect

The white poppy has been worn officially as a symbol of pacifism since 1933. It’s just become more popular in recent years due to the traditional poppy being politicised as a symbol for wars such as Afghanistan and the troubles. No one would have a problem if it was just for WW1 and 2

So our troops killed by the Taliban or the IRA don't deserve to be remembered, what a shameful post. The only people politicising the poppy are self loathing leftwing idiots who despise this country.

What a pile of rubbish for a reply. If someone as a point of view about the illegal invasion of the middle east or the troubles in N, ireland they are classed as left wing like if they are not allowed to have a point of view. The red poppy to me is about the 1st and 2nd world wars because it was fought in the fields. Now its become a symbol where by people can argue over whats right and wrong over current wars ... white poppy for me every day of the week. The red poppy belongs to the great wars.

What exactly is the disgrace here? The red poppy isn't used to commemorate WW1 anymore but for all of the British armed forces. Some people who might have been against sending troops to the middle East or lost loved ones in Iraq or Afghanistan might want to wear a white poppy to show their pacifism against a war of that nature.
The same could be said for the Irish who were on the wrong end of the British army during the troubles. (James McLean for example).

I hardly see this as an attempt to hijack the red poppy just an alternative way to respect the fallen

So after 98yrs or so its felt that someone needs to add another colour to armistice day, That's got totally no relevance to our armed forces? If thats not hijacking it why is it being pushed onto 11/11 by anyone? Why not xmas or jan 1st ect ect

The white poppy has been worn officially as a symbol of pacifism since 1933. It’s just become more popular in recent years due to the traditional poppy being politicised as a symbol for wars such as Afghanistan and the troubles. No one would have a problem if it was just for WW1 and 2

So our troops killed by the Taliban or the IRA don't deserve to be remembered, what a shameful post. The only people politicising the poppy are self loathing leftwing idiots who despise this country.

What a pile of rubbish for a reply. If someone as a point of view about the illegal invasion of the middle east or the troubles in N, ireland they are classed as left wing like if they are not allowed to have a point of view. The red poppy to me is about the 1st and 2nd world wars because it was fought in the fields. Now its become a symbol where by people can argue over whats right and wrong over current wars ... white poppy for me every day of the week. The red poppy belongs to the great wars.

Our troops don't decide where they're sent, do you think the Great War was fought for noble reasons. The white poppy is an insult to those who died for this country and is driven by those with a leftwing agenda.

White. If you want to wear Red do so. Don’t tell me what wear.

What exactly is the disgrace here? The red poppy isn't used to commemorate WW1 anymore but for all of the British armed forces. Some people who might have been against sending troops to the middle East or lost loved ones in Iraq or Afghanistan might want to wear a white poppy to show their pacifism against a war of that nature.
The same could be said for the Irish who were on the wrong end of the British army during the troubles. (James McLean for example).

I hardly see this as an attempt to hijack the red poppy just an alternative way to respect the fallen

So after 98yrs or so its felt that someone needs to add another colour to armistice day, That's got totally no relevance to our armed forces? If thats not hijacking it why is it being pushed onto 11/11 by anyone? Why not xmas or jan 1st ect ect

The white poppy has been worn officially as a symbol of pacifism since 1933. It’s just become more popular in recent years due to the traditional poppy being politicised as a symbol for wars such as Afghanistan and the troubles. No one would have a problem if it was just for WW1 and 2

those killed while serving their country havent the luxury of deciding years later the rights and wrongs of the conflict they died in as you do..so its hardly fair to cherry pick which of the dead are worthy of rememberance is it.?

No-one did.

White. If you want to wear Red do so. Don’t tell me what wear.

Wear whatever you want we live in a free country, thanks to those who made the ultimate sacrifice. If you don't consider their sacrifice worthy of remembrance that's your choice. The crank on ITV this morning, pushing the white thing said it was correct to wear it for ISIS scum who died as well, so you crack on .

White. If you want to wear Red do so. Don’t tell me what wear.

Wear whatever you want we live in a free country, thanks to those who made the ultimate sacrifice. If you don't consider their sacrifice worthy of remembrance that's your choice. The crank on ITV this morning, pushing the white thing said it was correct to wear it for ISIS scum who died as well, so you crack on .

So by not choosing to wear a red poppy he is disrespecting the dead? I don't wear a red or white poppy but I do watch the remembrance Day ceremony and always observe the minutes silence. I also have family who served during WW2 yet they aren't offended by me doing something as trivial as not wear a poppy. I know what they did and have listened to their stories and with the things they witnessed and did I have the utmost respect for them

White. If you want to wear Red do so. Don’t tell me what wear.

Wear whatever you want we live in a free country, thanks to those who made the ultimate sacrifice. If you don't consider their sacrifice worthy of remembrance that's your choice. The crank on ITV this morning, pushing the white thing said it was correct to wear it for ISIS scum who died as well, so you crack on .

So by not choosing to wear a red poppy he is disrespecting the dead? I don't wear a red or white poppy but I do watch the remembrance Day ceremony and always observe the minutes silence. I also have family who served during WW2 yet they aren't offended by me doing something as trivial as not wear a poppy. I know what they did and have listened to their stories and with the things they witnessed and did I have the utmost respect for them

As I've said thanks to people like your family we live in a free country, however it's my opinion the white poppy worn on Remembrance Day is an insult to our troops.

Red definately, no need to ever change it !!!

Wear a red one to commemorate the fallen.

Wear a white one with it if you wish to protest the banality of war.

But on the 11th November always remember the ones that gave you the choice.

Leave em to it Jock...if it was left to these guys, we'd be referring to the Mayor as 'Gauleiter'.

Neither.

Mainly because idiots like yourself have politicized the poopy, and thus the death of soldiers.

It makes me sick.

Neither.

Mainly because idiots like yourself have politicized the poopy, and thus the death of soldiers.

It makes me sick.

i will wear red as have generations of my family before me...its in remberance and in gratitude of those who gave their lives for me to have my life..
its was never a political symbol in my eyes and never will be no matter how many different other colours come on the market.
to stop wearing it would mean the awkward think they are clever ,disrespectful loons who would argue with their own shadows have won..and succeeded in making it political.

White. If you want to wear Red do so. Don’t tell me what wear.

Wear whatever you want we live in a free country, thanks to those who made the ultimate sacrifice. If you don't consider their sacrifice worthy of remembrance that's your choice. The crank on ITV this morning, pushing the white thing said it was correct to wear it for ISIS scum who died as well, so you crack on .

So by not choosing to wear a red poppy he is disrespecting the dead? I don't wear a red or white poppy but I do watch the remembrance Day ceremony and always observe the minutes silence. I also have family who served during WW2 yet they aren't offended by me doing something as trivial as not wear a poppy. I know what they did and have listened to their stories and with the things they witnessed and did I have the utmost respect for them

As I've said thanks to people like your family we live in a free country, however it's my opinion the white poppy worn on Remembrance Day is an insult to our troops.

Jock, this guy his very selective in his responses. He's stated he doesn't actually wear a poppy (his prerogative in the free country gained by those who laid down their lives) yet still has an apparently strong opinion on the wearing itself! You couldn't make it up sometimes!

There are many reasons not to wear the white poppy on this particular day but the most appropriate is 'tradition'; the very thing a lot of these same people are decrying yet were screaming about when the football club were going through its problems a few reasons ago. It may not be the same thing or at the same level but it does show the mixed/convenient thinking of some of these characters!