Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:57 pm
Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:16 pm
davids wrote:I wonder?
Personally i will give him a round of applause as he's walking off at the end with the rest of his defeated team-mates.
Until then he's just another opposition player trying his hardest to stop us getting three points and I won't be clapping him, cheering him or asking him to do the Ayatollah.
I couldn't give a shit that he plays for Wales or that he comes from Cardiff, he's the enemy until the game is over.
Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:28 pm
SwampCCFC wrote:davids wrote:I wonder?
Personally i will give him a round of applause as he's walking off at the end with the rest of his defeated team-mates.
Until then he's just another opposition player trying his hardest to stop us getting three points and I won't be clapping him, cheering him or asking him to do the Ayatollah.
I couldn't give a shit that he plays for Wales or that he comes from Cardiff, he's the enemy until the game is over.
he's a fan of this club and gave us good and loyal service. he left in order to further his career, and the club shot themselves in the foot by not accepting bids that were made. no hard feelings from me.
if someone like steven caulker gets a good reception, then ledley should get a round of applause. clearly i hope we win, but i wish the fella all the best after the game.
Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:35 pm
Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:46 pm
Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:50 pm
Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:16 pm
WelshPatriot wrote:Shit on the club he allegedly loves. Nice guy I'm sure but won't be getting a welcome from me.
Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:37 pm
Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:51 pm
davids wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:davids wrote:I wonder?
Personally i will give him a round of applause as he's walking off at the end with the rest of his defeated team-mates.
Until then he's just another opposition player trying his hardest to stop us getting three points and I won't be clapping him, cheering him or asking him to do the Ayatollah.
I couldn't give a shit that he plays for Wales or that he comes from Cardiff, he's the enemy until the game is over.
he's a fan of this club and gave us good and loyal service. he left in order to further his career, and the club shot themselves in the foot by not accepting bids that were made. no hard feelings from me.
if someone like steven caulker gets a good reception, then ledley should get a round of applause. clearly i hope we win, but i wish the fella all the best after the game.
Fair enough. AFTER the game, not during it.
Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:59 pm
Sven wrote:WelshPatriot wrote:Shit on the club he allegedly loves. Nice guy I'm sure but won't be getting a welcome from me.
Yep, his fans can dress it up as much as they like and even blame 'the Riddler' but Joe (and his agent) knew exactly what they were doing and how to time it and it left a taste!![]()
We've been through all that though and the simple answer is that there will be no applause from me, no booing and no acknowledgement before, during or after the game. If chosen, he's just another Derby County player we need to contain!
Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:03 pm
Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:24 pm
Bluemellons wrote:All these people saying he's a greedy whatever would turn down a job doubling their salary obviously.
Why would any second division player turn down the chance of playing in front of 60000 fans and the possibility of Champions League?
Its a job. Same as anyone.
Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:32 pm
maccydee wrote:Sven wrote:WelshPatriot wrote:Shit on the club he allegedly loves. Nice guy I'm sure but won't be getting a welcome from me.
Yep, his fans can dress it up as much as they like and even blame 'the Riddler' but Joe (and his agent) knew exactly what they were doing and how to time it and it left a taste!![]()
We've been through all that though and the simple answer is that there will be no applause from me, no booing and no acknowledgement before, during or after the game. If chosen, he's just another Derby County player we need to contain!
The Riddler is totally to blame. Look at how Warnock rewards excellent performances with new contracts. Riddler paid Fowler 8 times as much as Joe, JFH and Sinclair 5 times as much. Ledley was our best player for 15 months. Riddler took the fact he was a cardiff lad for granted. Turned down millions for him without paying him a wage comparable to the value placed on him.
If I was Ledley I would have done exactly the same as him.
Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:25 pm
CF23 Bluebird wrote:A round of applause when his name is read out and no more. Hope he doesn't get asked to do the ayatollah
Sat Sep 30, 2017 2:18 am
SwampCCFC wrote:maccydee wrote:Sven wrote:WelshPatriot wrote:Shit on the club he allegedly loves. Nice guy I'm sure but won't be getting a welcome from me.
Yep, his fans can dress it up as much as they like and even blame 'the Riddler' but Joe (and his agent) knew exactly what they were doing and how to time it and it left a taste!![]()
We've been through all that though and the simple answer is that there will be no applause from me, no booing and no acknowledgement before, during or after the game. If chosen, he's just another Derby County player we need to contain!
The Riddler is totally to blame. Look at how Warnock rewards excellent performances with new contracts. Riddler paid Fowler 8 times as much as Joe, JFH and Sinclair 5 times as much. Ledley was our best player for 15 months. Riddler took the fact he was a cardiff lad for granted. Turned down millions for him without paying him a wage comparable to the value placed on him.
If I was Ledley I would have done exactly the same as him.
this.
he wasn't appreciated here financially - most academy players are the same, they rarely get paid what they are worth. it must have been galling for him to have compared himself to much worse players being paid far more. you are right that the club were to blame for losing him on a free.
he was right to move on and did so. the fans were disappointed when he left for the SPL, but he proved he is good enough for the PL with palace. as i said on another thread, he should have taken the money on offer in china or turkey.
he'll get an applause from me. lesser players who contributed a fraction of what he did have been given good receptions. i dare say kenwyne jones would get a great reception if he returned, having contributed about 1/4 of what ledley did, for 10 times the pay. selective memories here.
Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:38 am
Bluemellons wrote:All these people saying he's a greedy whatever would turn down a job doubling their salary obviously.
Why would any second division player turn down the chance of playing in front of 60000 fans and the possibility of Champions League?
Its a job. Same as anyone.
Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:41 am
Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:42 am
Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:41 am
davids wrote:I wonder?
Personally i will give him a round of applause as he's walking off at the end with the rest of his defeated team-mates.
Until then he's just another opposition player trying his hardest to stop us getting three points and I won't be clapping him, cheering him or asking him to do the Ayatollah.
I couldn't give a shit that he plays for Wales or that he comes from Cardiff, he's the enemy until the game is over.
Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:43 am
Sven wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:maccydee wrote:Sven wrote:WelshPatriot wrote:Shit on the club he allegedly loves. Nice guy I'm sure but won't be getting a welcome from me.
Yep, his fans can dress it up as much as they like and even blame 'the Riddler' but Joe (and his agent) knew exactly what they were doing and how to time it and it left a taste!![]()
We've been through all that though and the simple answer is that there will be no applause from me, no booing and no acknowledgement before, during or after the game. If chosen, he's just another Derby County player we need to contain!
The Riddler is totally to blame. Look at how Warnock rewards excellent performances with new contracts. Riddler paid Fowler 8 times as much as Joe, JFH and Sinclair 5 times as much. Ledley was our best player for 15 months. Riddler took the fact he was a cardiff lad for granted. Turned down millions for him without paying him a wage comparable to the value placed on him.
If I was Ledley I would have done exactly the same as him.
this.
he wasn't appreciated here financially - most academy players are the same, they rarely get paid what they are worth. it must have been galling for him to have compared himself to much worse players being paid far more. you are right that the club were to blame for losing him on a free.
he was right to move on and did so. the fans were disappointed when he left for the SPL, but he proved he is good enough for the PL with palace. as i said on another thread, he should have taken the money on offer in china or turkey.
he'll get an applause from me. lesser players who contributed a fraction of what he did have been given good receptions. i dare say kenwyne jones would get a great reception if he returned, having contributed about 1/4 of what ledley did, for 10 times the pay. selective memories here.
No selective memories from me, chaps!![]()
You're obviously fans (maybe even friends) of Joe and I respect that but The Riddler indicated early on that Joe had little or no intention of renewing his contract from an early stage and most of us remember the saga that ensued throughout that season as Joe stayed pretty schtum on the subject before declaring his desire to play in the Premier League
Sadly, he conveniently missed out the word 'Scottish' and by doing so cost City much needed cash for his 'development' in the process. City were heading for the wall (maybe a good reason for him to see pastures new) and he didn't take a look in the rear view mirror as he headed over Offah's Dyke and then Hadrian's Wall!
We can bounce this one back and forth for ages but the simple fact is that Joe left (under a cloud IMHO) and now he's back with another team (Derby) so is by default an opposition player and should be treated as such and anything other than a ripple of applause from those who think he deserves it (and there will be many; particularly Wales fans amongst the crowd) should suffice. Once the game starts, he's just another opposition player!
Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:43 am
Bluebina wrote:davids wrote:I wonder?
Personally i will give him a round of applause as he's walking off at the end with the rest of his defeated team-mates.
Until then he's just another opposition player trying his hardest to stop us getting three points and I won't be clapping him, cheering him or asking him to do the Ayatollah.
I couldn't give a shit that he plays for Wales or that he comes from Cardiff, he's the enemy until the game is over.
Agreed enemy scum until the end of the game
Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:48 am
Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:20 am
maccydee wrote:Sven wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:maccydee wrote:Sven wrote:WelshPatriot wrote:Shit on the club he allegedly loves. Nice guy I'm sure but won't be getting a welcome from me.
Yep, his fans can dress it up as much as they like and even blame 'the Riddler' but Joe (and his agent) knew exactly what they were doing and how to time it and it left a taste!![]()
We've been through all that though and the simple answer is that there will be no applause from me, no booing and no acknowledgement before, during or after the game. If chosen, he's just another Derby County player we need to contain!
The Riddler is totally to blame. Look at how Warnock rewards excellent performances with new contracts. Riddler paid Fowler 8 times as much as Joe, JFH and Sinclair 5 times as much. Ledley was our best player for 15 months. Riddler took the fact he was a cardiff lad for granted. Turned down millions for him without paying him a wage comparable to the value placed on him.
If I was Ledley I would have done exactly the same as him.
this.
he wasn't appreciated here financially - most academy players are the same, they rarely get paid what they are worth. it must have been galling for him to have compared himself to much worse players being paid far more. you are right that the club were to blame for losing him on a free.
he was right to move on and did so. the fans were disappointed when he left for the SPL, but he proved he is good enough for the PL with palace. as i said on another thread, he should have taken the money on offer in china or turkey.
he'll get an applause from me. lesser players who contributed a fraction of what he did have been given good receptions. i dare say kenwyne jones would get a great reception if he returned, having contributed about 1/4 of what ledley did, for 10 times the pay. selective memories here.
No selective memories from me, chaps!![]()
You're obviously fans (maybe even friends) of Joe and I respect that but The Riddler indicated early on that Joe had little or no intention of renewing his contract from an early stage and most of us remember the saga that ensued throughout that season as Joe stayed pretty schtum on the subject before declaring his desire to play in the Premier League
Sadly, he conveniently missed out the word 'Scottish' and by doing so cost City much needed cash for his 'development' in the process. City were heading for the wall (maybe a good reason for him to see pastures new) and he didn't take a look in the rear view mirror as he headed over Offah's Dyke and then Hadrian's Wall!
We can bounce this one back and forth for ages but the simple fact is that Joe left (under a cloud IMHO) and now he's back with another team (Derby) so is by default an opposition player and should be treated as such and anything other than a ripple of applause from those who think he deserves it (and there will be many; particularly Wales fans amongst the crowd) should suffice. Once the game starts, he's just another opposition player!
Because Riddler always tells the truth.
Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:25 am
Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:29 am
Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:48 am
Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:11 pm
maccydee wrote:Sven wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:maccydee wrote:Sven wrote:WelshPatriot wrote:Shit on the club he allegedly loves. Nice guy I'm sure but won't be getting a welcome from me.
Yep, his fans can dress it up as much as they like and even blame 'the Riddler' but Joe (and his agent) knew exactly what they were doing and how to time it and it left a taste!![]()
We've been through all that though and the simple answer is that there will be no applause from me, no booing and no acknowledgement before, during or after the game. If chosen, he's just another Derby County player we need to contain!
The Riddler is totally to blame. Look at how Warnock rewards excellent performances with new contracts. Riddler paid Fowler 8 times as much as Joe, JFH and Sinclair 5 times as much. Ledley was our best player for 15 months. Riddler took the fact he was a cardiff lad for granted. Turned down millions for him without paying him a wage comparable to the value placed on him.
If I was Ledley I would have done exactly the same as him.
this.
he wasn't appreciated here financially - most academy players are the same, they rarely get paid what they are worth. it must have been galling for him to have compared himself to much worse players being paid far more. you are right that the club were to blame for losing him on a free.
he was right to move on and did so. the fans were disappointed when he left for the SPL, but he proved he is good enough for the PL with palace. as i said on another thread, he should have taken the money on offer in china or turkey.
he'll get an applause from me. lesser players who contributed a fraction of what he did have been given good receptions. i dare say kenwyne jones would get a great reception if he returned, having contributed about 1/4 of what ledley did, for 10 times the pay. selective memories here.
No selective memories from me, chaps!![]()
You're obviously fans (maybe even friends) of Joe and I respect that but The Riddler indicated early on that Joe had little or no intention of renewing his contract from an early stage and most of us remember the saga that ensued throughout that season as Joe stayed pretty schtum on the subject before declaring his desire to play in the Premier League
Sadly, he conveniently missed out the word 'Scottish' and by doing so cost City much needed cash for his 'development' in the process. City were heading for the wall (maybe a good reason for him to see pastures new) and he didn't take a look in the rear view mirror as he headed over Offah's Dyke and then Hadrian's Wall!
We can bounce this one back and forth for ages but the simple fact is that Joe left (under a cloud IMHO) and now he's back with another team (Derby) so is by default an opposition player and should be treated as such and anything other than a ripple of applause from those who think he deserves it (and there will be many; particularly Wales fans amongst the crowd) should suffice. Once the game starts, he's just another opposition player!
Because Riddler always tells the truth.
Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:35 pm
Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:57 pm
Kenbird1983 wrote:i will be cheering as it was peter ridsdale fault not joes they was messing him around and i speak and drink with his dad chris nice guy
Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:40 pm
you clearly don't like joe and you haven't got a clue with what really went on and before you ask it's not for me to tell you.Sven wrote:maccydee wrote:Sven wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:maccydee wrote:Sven wrote:WelshPatriot wrote:Shit on the club he allegedly loves. Nice guy I'm sure but won't be getting a welcome from me.
Yep, his fans can dress it up as much as they like and even blame 'the Riddler' but Joe (and his agent) knew exactly what they were doing and how to time it and it left a taste!![]()
We've been through all that though and the simple answer is that there will be no applause from me, no booing and no acknowledgement before, during or after the game. If chosen, he's just another Derby County player we need to contain!
The Riddler is totally to blame. Look at how Warnock rewards excellent performances with new contracts. Riddler paid Fowler 8 times as much as Joe, JFH and Sinclair 5 times as much. Ledley was our best player for 15 months. Riddler took the fact he was a cardiff lad for granted. Turned down millions for him without paying him a wage comparable to the value placed on him.
If I was Ledley I would have done exactly the same as him.
this.
he wasn't appreciated here financially - most academy players are the same, they rarely get paid what they are worth. it must have been galling for him to have compared himself to much worse players being paid far more. you are right that the club were to blame for losing him on a free.
he was right to move on and did so. the fans were disappointed when he left for the SPL, but he proved he is good enough for the PL with palace. as i said on another thread, he should have taken the money on offer in china or turkey.
he'll get an applause from me. lesser players who contributed a fraction of what he did have been given good receptions. i dare say kenwyne jones would get a great reception if he returned, having contributed about 1/4 of what ledley did, for 10 times the pay. selective memories here.
No selective memories from me, chaps!![]()
You're obviously fans (maybe even friends) of Joe and I respect that but The Riddler indicated early on that Joe had little or no intention of renewing his contract from an early stage and most of us remember the saga that ensued throughout that season as Joe stayed pretty schtum on the subject before declaring his desire to play in the Premier League
Sadly, he conveniently missed out the word 'Scottish' and by doing so cost City much needed cash for his 'development' in the process. City were heading for the wall (maybe a good reason for him to see pastures new) and he didn't take a look in the rear view mirror as he headed over Offah's Dyke and then Hadrian's Wall!
We can bounce this one back and forth for ages but the simple fact is that Joe left (under a cloud IMHO) and now he's back with another team (Derby) so is by default an opposition player and should be treated as such and anything other than a ripple of applause from those who think he deserves it (and there will be many; particularly Wales fans amongst the crowd) should suffice. Once the game starts, he's just another opposition player!
Because Riddler always tells the truth.
Not really a response that, is it?![]()
Joe hasn't exactly cleared up the situation either, has he?