OK AM I WRONG HERE ?

OK AM I WRONG HERE ?

This is just my opinion on what I believe is going on. No proof just adding 2+2 and coming to 4 or am I coming to 5 ?

The elite in terms of Banks and the Rothchilds America Saudi Arabia and Israel etc run nearly every bank and country in the world apart from Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and Iran.
But here is what I believe the elite wants to own 100% of the worlds resources etc and they need the wealth of the Middle East.
I have this gut feeling that the Americans new of the plan at 9/11 and let it happen. (Most Americans don't believe the official story here). Even though the attackers were born in Saudi Arabia they told us Iraq was responsible. And that bullshit story of them having weapons of mass destruction.
It was just the reason they needed to invade Iraq and overthrow Saddam. Then it was over to Afghanistan, then they didn't stop there they over saw the demise of Gadaffi in Lybia.
Then it was to throw Assad out of Syria so they trained the rebels armed them and helped fund them along with Saudi Arabia and now they are known as ISIS.
The plan is to open the borders and then let cheap Labour flood and force wages down making the elite even more wealthy. No borders the population at each other's throats that makes them easier to control.
If this isn't true why has Europe with Merkel at the helm opened its borders completely? Hmmm have I an over active imagination or is this not far off the truth ? Opinions please.

I'm in total agreement with you.

Here is a good video explaining what you have posted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9NnPN6TM_g

It looks like Iran will be next: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... mes-mattis

I'm in total agreement with you.

Here is a good video explaining what you have posted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9NnPN6TM_g

It looks like Iran will be next: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... mes-mattis

Forgot about North Korea and Cuba. First time I have seen that video but it's chilling that it isn't far off what I put up above

Ohh and North Korea is sitting on over six trillion dollars of minerals as well. Hmmm so that's why America is interested in the place Not because of there human rights record. Never interested them in the slightest but knows that they can get the public backing with this.
What gets me the left loved Obama but had he been a white Christian he would of been labled the worst war moungering president in there history by the same people who love him. But he was just the elites puppet simples

Somebody has been watching zeitgeist style youtube videos

David Ray Griffin has a book called 'The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About the Bush Administration' very interesting reading also watched a docu/film on Amazon prime the other night with Griffin giving a talk on 9/11 lies and cover ups, very well worth a watch.
Nukes I'm with you on this and after watching the program it all makes more sense.

David Ray Griffin has a book called 'The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About the Bush Administration' very interesting reading also watched a docu/film on Amazon prime the other night with Griffin giving a talk on 9/11 lies and cover ups, very well worth a watch.
Nukes I'm with you on this and after watching the program it all makes more sense.

PS. Its called ' 9/11 The Myth and The Reality '

OK AM I WRONG HERE ?

This is just my opinion on what I believe is going on. No proof just adding 2+2 and coming to 4 or am I coming to 5 ?

The elite in terms of Banks and the Rothchilds America Saudi Arabia and Israel etc run nearly every bank and country in the world apart from Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and Iran.
But here is what I believe the elite wants to own 100% of the worlds resources etc and they need the wealth of the Middle East.
I have this gut feeling that the Americans new of the plan at 9/11 and let it happen. (Most Americans don't believe the official story here). Even though the attackers were born in Saudi Arabia they told us Iraq was responsible. And that bullshit story of them having weapons of mass destruction.
It was just the reason they needed to invade Iraq and overthrow Saddam. Then it was over to Afghanistan, then they didn't stop there they over saw the demise of Gadaffi in Lybia.
Then it was to throw Assad out of Syria so they trained the rebels armed them and helped fund them along with Saudi Arabia and now they are known as ISIS.
The plan is to open the borders and then let cheap Labour flood and force wages down making the elite even more wealthy. No borders the population at each other's throats that makes them easier to control.
If this isn't true why has Europe with Merkel at the helm opened its borders completely? Hmmm have I an over active imagination or is this not far off the truth ? Opinions please.

There are some very obvious flaws in your theory but also some parts that I believe are not far wrong.

Bush wanted to invade Iraq to finish the job his Father started in 1991, so the motive was personal although the oil came as a nice bonus. The reason's given for invading Iraq were bollocks, but the USA had every reason to invade Afghanistan once the Taliban refused to hand over Osama bin Laden and other Al-Qaeda leaders.

I don't believe America was complicit in the 9/11 attack as no President would want to be stained by a foreign power infiltrating America's sovereign territory.

Also there is no real wealth in Afghanistan, Syria and other middle Eastern countries who don't have massive oil reserves and I'm a bit confused by how America is supposed to benefit from cheap Labour flooding into Europe?

However, I agree there is a problem with a small elite controlling a disproportionate amount of the world's wealth but they do that by using far easier and less destructive methods than going to war.

OK AM I WRONG HERE ?

This is just my opinion on what I believe is going on. No proof just adding 2+2 and coming to 4 or am I coming to 5 ?

The elite in terms of Banks and the Rothchilds America Saudi Arabia and Israel etc run nearly every bank and country in the world apart from Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and Iran.
But here is what I believe the elite wants to own 100% of the worlds resources etc and they need the wealth of the Middle East.
I have this gut feeling that the Americans new of the plan at 9/11 and let it happen. (Most Americans don't believe the official story here). Even though the attackers were born in Saudi Arabia they told us Iraq was responsible. And that bullshit story of them having weapons of mass destruction.
It was just the reason they needed to invade Iraq and overthrow Saddam. Then it was over to Afghanistan, then they didn't stop there they over saw the demise of Gadaffi in Lybia.
Then it was to throw Assad out of Syria so they trained the rebels armed them and helped fund them along with Saudi Arabia and now they are known as ISIS.
The plan is to open the borders and then let cheap Labour flood and force wages down making the elite even more wealthy. No borders the population at each other's throats that makes them easier to control.
If this isn't true why has Europe with Merkel at the helm opened its borders completely? Hmmm have I an over active imagination or is this not far off the truth ? Opinions please.

There are some very obvious flaws in your theory but also some parts that I believe are not far wrong.

Bush wanted to invade Iraq to finish the job his Father started in 1991, so the motive was personal although the oil came as a nice bonus. The reason's given for invading Iraq were bollocks, but the USA had every reason to invade Afghanistan once the Taliban refused to hand over Osama bin Laden and other Al-Qaeda leaders.

I don't believe America was complicit in the 9/11 attack as no President would want to be stained by a foreign power infiltrating America's sovereign territory.

Also there is no real wealth in Afghanistan, Syria and other middle Eastern countries who don't have massive oil reserves and I'm a bit confused by how America is supposed to benefit from cheap Labour flooding into Europe?

However, I agree there is a problem with a small elite controlling a disproportionate amount of the world's wealth but they do that by using far easier and less destructive methods than going to war.

It's not just Europe opening there borders A Erica is doing it as well. It is t just a Europe problem but I didn't state that above. As for Syriawhy have the West interfered ? There has to be a reason. It certainly isnt because Assad is a bad man.
It's all part of a jigsaw that is being put together. As to 9/11 the story given out just seems implausible and I do believe the USA let it happen. Hmmm I suppose we will never find out the truth just like the Kennedy assassination.

You are!

David Ray Griffin has a book called 'The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About the Bush Administration' very interesting reading also watched a docu/film on Amazon prime the other night with Griffin giving a talk on 9/11 lies and cover ups, very well worth a watch.
Nukes I'm with you on this and after watching the program it all makes more sense.

PS. Its called ' 9/11 The Myth and The Reality '

9/11 never sat right in my mind from day one.
the biggest problem with the conspiracy theories though is there are so many different theories as to an alternative series of events that day..
personally i find the Pentagon attack the hardest to swallow.
50 mins after the 1st tower gets hit and half an hour after the 2nd ,what should be one of the best defended buildings in the world gets hit by a cesna pilot flying like a fighter pilot...with less CCTV footage than there had been at the Britania stadium the previous year for a football match..?...really?
bottom line though is we the public will never know.

Not wrong at all. In fact your actually bang on. There was a think tank called PNAC that listed 7 countries the US would invade published before 9/11 which also referenced the need for a new pearl harbour event to legitimise US invasion of these countries.

Loads of stuff on it but also a lot if disinformation around the topic as well so dont take everything at face value.

But some interesting articles on this search https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=pnac+ ... -8#xxri=11

US/ Israeli foreign policy, New world order.......

ISIS tool, AQ US made

You are very close to the truth Nukes and fact!

All part of the Kalergi Plan??

David Ray Griffin has a book called 'The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About the Bush Administration' very interesting reading also watched a docu/film on Amazon prime the other night with Griffin giving a talk on 9/11 lies and cover ups, very well worth a watch.
Nukes I'm with you on this and after watching the program it all makes more sense.

PS. Its called ' 9/11 The Myth and The Reality '

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

Osama bin Laden he was the man we are told who was behind 9/11 so he was being pursued across the Middle East. How much was this man involved ? Was he made out much worse than we are told ? Eventually he was taken out by seal team six in Pakistan not Afghanistan. He could of been taken alive by the the most elite team in the world but he wasn't why ?? Then his body quickly desposed of.
So what happened to Seal team six after ? Oh they all died in a helecopter crash !! Hmm those that New what happened that night are now dead To me all a big coincidence Hmmmm

Thought one seal left the service and then got done for writing a book on the mission ? (marvellous what you can train a seal to do ) couldn't resist sorry.
Funny thing is, he got jailed for writing the story due to their official secrets act but the said story was all over the news anyway lol.
My take for what its worth is young Bush knew but had no say in the matter as daddy Bush and the other hawks were calling the shots he was just a puppet president.

It's not just Europe opening there borders A Erica is doing it as well. It is t just a Europe problem but I didn't state that above. As for Syriawhy have the West interfered ? There has to be a reason. It certainly isnt because Assad is a bad man.
It's all part of a jigsaw that is being put together. As to 9/11 the story given out just seems implausible and I do believe the USA let it happen. Hmmm I suppose we will never find out the truth just like the Kennedy assassination.

The west 'interfered' in Syria mainly to get rid of Russian supporting Assad but then got caught up in the ISIS nonsense. It certainly had nothing to do with robbing it of it's wealth as you inferred in your OP because it doesn't really have any.

Your OP you stated that Europe had opened it's boarders I was simply replying to that

As for 9/11 just what bit is implausible? If your logic is correct then the UK Government could well have known about the 7/7, Manchester, Westminster and London Bridge attacks and also did nothing to stop them? I simply can't see it.

The fact is 9/11 was a terrorist attack which was well planed and caught America off guard.

It's not just Europe opening there borders A Erica is doing it as well. It is t just a Europe problem but I didn't state that above. As for Syriawhy have the West interfered ? There has to be a reason. It certainly isnt because Assad is a bad man.
It's all part of a jigsaw that is being put together. As to 9/11 the story given out just seems implausible and I do believe the USA let it happen. Hmmm I suppose we will never find out the truth just like the Kennedy assassination.

As for 9/11 just what bit is implausible?

In fairness there are a huge amount of unanswered questions around 9/11

Just a few would include:

How did a a Boeing 767 200 hit the second tower at a speed of 510 knots (according to official radar data) when its maximum dive velocity is 410 knots?

Why was the engine found in the wreckage a CFM56 when these were only ever used in 737s and never used in 767s?

Why did the plane that hit the pentagon do an almost 180 degree bank to hit the side of the opposite side of the building to its approach - a manouvre most pilots agree would be impossible for someone on a PPL license?

Why was nano thermite which is usually only found in controlled demolitions, found all over the crash site?

Why were NORAD running war games that day that literally involved hypothetical hi-jacked planes that led to mass confusion?

Why was the funding for the inquiry so poor? Less than 10% of what was spent on the Clinton/lewinski investigation?

Why did Bush and Cheny refuse to be interviewed seperately or under oath?

Why did building seven go down when it wasnt hit and is the only skyscraper in history to have allegwdly collapsed due office fire?

Why did the hundreds of witnesses who reported hearing secondary and tertiary explosions get ommitted and overlooked in the official NIST report?

How did passengers on flight 11 make calls from 30K feet (which was the altitude shown by radar) when the technology of the day meant it was impossible to do so?

Why was security relaxed (including the use if sniffer dogs) during the preceding week of 9/11?

Now i'm not saying some of the above cant be argued away rationally but logic would suggest that in sheer light of the amount of inconsistencies and anomolies (of which these are just a few) that the official version of events on 9/11 is definitely not the real truth.

I don't believe America was complicit in the 9/11 attack as no President would want to be stained by a foreign power infiltrating America's sovereign territory.

Sorry if I seem like I'm picking on you here dude but this isn't quite right.

The now declassified files on Operation Northwoods which was a planned false flag against Cuba had eery similarities to 9/11 including replacing hi-jacked planes with military drones painted to look the same, fake passenger lists and an attack on US soil. Whilst the plans never came to anything as they were rejected by Kennedy they definitely set a precedent for the planning of such an attack by the US - it begs the interesting question of what happens when a president has less morality than Kennedy, someone like for example George W Bush?

Other false flags by the US to legitimatise their entry into war that actually happened and are now a matter of record include The sinking of Maine (Spanish-American War), the sinking of the Lucitania (World War 1), The Gulf of Tonken Incident (Vietnam War). Whilst admittedly none of which were on US soil all did involve the sacrifice of US citizens for political reasons.

Also there is no real wealth in Afghanistan, Syria and other middle Eastern countries who don't have massive oil reserves and I'm a bit confused by how America is supposed to benefit from cheap Labour flooding into Europe?

Afghanistan is home to the worlds largest opium fields which go into 90% of the heroin worldwide - which is a multi-billion dollar industry, while Syria is crucial to both the Qatar/Turkey pipeline (which is backed by the US) and also the Iran/Iraq/Syria pipeline which is backed by Russia). Both have to go through Syria which is why Syria is hugely important and also why Russia is so involved there as a solid Gas and Oil supply via Iran will make them less reliant on the Ukraine.

However, I agree there is a problem with a small elite controlling a disproportionate amount of the world's wealth but they do that by using far easier and less destructive methods than going to war.

Final point (i promise ) is that separate members of the Rothschild family have back different sides of every major war since the Napoleonic war (which incidentally was the war that gave them the opportunity to acquire the Bank of England). Whilst for us normal folks War is a horrible, messy and painful thing, for the elites it's just another way of making money and gaining ever more control of power.

Again sorry for picking on your two posts - not personal I promise - just we obviously have diff. views on this is all!

It's not just Europe opening there borders A Erica is doing it as well. It is t just a Europe problem but I didn't state that above. As for Syriawhy have the West interfered ? There has to be a reason. It certainly isnt because Assad is a bad man.
It's all part of a jigsaw that is being put together. As to 9/11 the story given out just seems implausible and I do believe the USA let it happen. Hmmm I suppose we will never find out the truth just like the Kennedy assassination.

The west 'interfered' in Syria mainly to get rid of Russian supporting Assad but then got caught up in the ISIS nonsense. It certainly had nothing to do with robbing it of it's wealth as you inferred in your OP because it doesn't really have any.

Your OP you stated that Europe had opened it's boarders I was simply replying to that

As for 9/11 just what bit is implausible? If your logic is correct then the UK Government could well have known about the 7/7, Manchester, Westminster and London Bridge attacks and also did nothing to stop them? I simply can't see it.

The fact is 9/11 was a terrorist attack which was well planed and caught America off guard.

look into the pentagon attack....and the lack of footage of it considering what was hit..
in wtc1 and 2..the public are asked to believe that jetfuel started these uncontolable fires that would not only bring down those buildings but buildings that had not been hit..and would continue to burn for weeks.
then look at the pentagon damage..chairs..plastic pcs..desks filing cabinets full of paper.not burned or charred.?
id love to believe the official explanation of that days events, but there are way too many un answered questions.
and as above..operation norwoods.concerning stuff.....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

As I said in the OP I think they knew of the attack and let it happen. Far to complex the rest of the theories of explosives, to many people would know the truth. But in reality it would of been easy to let this just happen even going as far to get Saudi Arabia to organise it and the Yanks let it happen.
They needed a massive excuse to get the population behind them for there policy on the Middle East and they got it. Can't believe that many still believe the policy on the Middle East is because of beating an evil and doing it for humanity.
The West is playing everyone against each other to get what it wants.

Yes you are wrong.

It's not just Europe opening there borders A Erica is doing it as well. It is t just a Europe problem but I didn't state that above. As for Syriawhy have the West interfered ? There has to be a reason. It certainly isnt because Assad is a bad man.
It's all part of a jigsaw that is being put together. As to 9/11 the story given out just seems implausible and I do believe the USA let it happen. Hmmm I suppose we will never find out the truth just like the Kennedy assassination.

The west 'interfered' in Syria mainly to get rid of Russian supporting Assad but then got caught up in the ISIS nonsense. It certainly had nothing to do with robbing it of it's wealth as you inferred in your OP because it doesn't really have any.

Your OP you stated that Europe had opened it's boarders I was simply replying to that

As for 9/11 just what bit is implausible? If your logic is correct then the UK Government could well have known about the 7/7, Manchester, Westminster and London Bridge attacks and also did nothing to stop them? I simply can't see it.

The fact is 9/11 was a terrorist attack which was well planed and caught America off guard.

look into the pentagon attack....and the lack of footage of it considering what was hit..
in wtc1 and 2..the public are asked to believe that jetfuel started these uncontolable fires that would not only bring down those buildings but buildings that had not been hit..and would continue to burn for weeks.
then look at the pentagon damage..chairs..plastic pcs..desks filing cabinets full of paper.not burned or charred.?
id love to believe the official explanation of that days events, but there are way too many un answered questions.
and as above..operation norwoods.concerning stuff.....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

I think you mean Operation Northwoods? It is hardly concerning, it was a document declassified and released for public viewing. It is simply a list of ideas that was ultimately rejected. Although it's clear false flag events do happen but it seems the modern era of internet tin foil hatters have gone into overdrive, all quoting the same internet YouTube videos and Wikipedia pages that say the same old thing and think they have discovered the inner workings of the universe.

I would imagine there are elements of truth here and they are patched up by an awful lot of rubbish. Yet these tin foil hatters don't seem to be able to differentiate between the two as they do little independent research of their own. They are just as bad as those who believe ever word the government says. No different.

It's not just Europe opening there borders A Erica is doing it as well. It is t just a Europe problem but I didn't state that above. As for Syriawhy have the West interfered ? There has to be a reason. It certainly isnt because Assad is a bad man.
It's all part of a jigsaw that is being put together. As to 9/11 the story given out just seems implausible and I do believe the USA let it happen. Hmmm I suppose we will never find out the truth just like the Kennedy assassination.

The west 'interfered' in Syria mainly to get rid of Russian supporting Assad but then got caught up in the ISIS nonsense. It certainly had nothing to do with robbing it of it's wealth as you inferred in your OP because it doesn't really have any.

Your OP you stated that Europe had opened it's boarders I was simply replying to that

As for 9/11 just what bit is implausible? If your logic is correct then the UK Government could well have known about the 7/7, Manchester, Westminster and London Bridge attacks and also did nothing to stop them? I simply can't see it.

The fact is 9/11 was a terrorist attack which was well planed and caught America off guard.

look into the pentagon attack....and the lack of footage of it considering what was hit..
in wtc1 and 2..the public are asked to believe that jetfuel started these uncontolable fires that would not only bring down those buildings but buildings that had not been hit..and would continue to burn for weeks.
then look at the pentagon damage..chairs..plastic pcs..desks filing cabinets full of paper.not burned or charred.?
id love to believe the official explanation of that days events, but there are way too many un answered questions.
and as above..operation norwoods.concerning stuff.....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

I think you mean Operation Northwoods? It is hardly concerning, it was a document declassified and released for public viewing. It is simply a list of ideas that was ultimately rejected. Although it's clear false flag events do happen but it seems the modern era of internet tin foil hatters have gone into overdrive, all quoting the same internet YouTube videos and Wikipedia pages that say the same old thing and think they have discovered the inner workings of the universe.

I would imagine there are elements of truth here and they are patched up by an awful lot of rubbish. Yet these tin foil hatters don't seem to be able to differentiate between the two as they do little independent research of their own. They are just as bad as those who believe ever word the government says. No different.

If it comes down to a choice of a fashion faux par of wearing a tin hat or getting a sore neck from keeping my head buried in the sand all day...i'll go for the hat everytime.

Never been much of a fashionista anyways and i'm a right moaning fanny when it comes to old age aches and pains

If all you say is true how is it corbyn got so close to winning power? Surely these organisations have the so called power to ensure somebody as anti corporations as him would not even get a sniff of downing street.

If all you say is true how is it corbyn got so close to winning power? Surely these organisations have the so called power to ensure somebody as anti corporations as him would not even get a sniff of downing street.

Because the lefts love of open borders it won't do there corner any harm.
And once Labour fecks everything the Tories will just walk in. Even Trump won't derail what's already going on.

If all you say is true how is it corbyn got so close to winning power? Surely these organisations have the so called power to ensure somebody as anti corporations as him would not even get a sniff of downing street.

Because the lefts love of open borders it won't do there corner any harm.
And once Labour fecks everything the Tories will just walk in. Even Trump won't derail what's already going on.

You've totally avoided answering my question. Corbyn is against big business, big corporations he will have them on his hit list of he ever got into power. Now if these corps have as much power as you allege surely they could/would stop anyone who may ruin this plan of theirs.

Yeah the elites really want to destabilise the whole world and risk having their heads in the guillotine. Conspiracy theory nonsense. Bill Clinton couldn't keep a cum stained dress a secret never mind this laughable nonsense

OK AM I WRONG HERE ?

Yes