Gary medel

Playing in the confed cup final tonight. Loved him playing for us.

He ran the show against Swansea at home but didn't look up for the battle towards the end of the season

Looked like absolute chump the majority of his Prem season.

Just the fact of the matter

I remember a number of people saying Jose Canas at Swansea was the far superior player, playing in Greece now I believe

Awesome player

I remember a number of people saying Jose Canas at Swansea was the far superior player, playing in Greece now I believe

Not the better player, but had a better season than him in their brief Prem spells. For some reason a part of your fan base is desperate to keep the myth alive, I always enjoy the dose of reality. He was a chump 90% of his time with you. Helped you to finish bottom on 30 points with the nickname el poodle after woeful performance after woeful performance. Hernandez made him look silly at the Liberty.

A decent gritty player with very limited technical ability - utterly awful and uncommitted playing for you though. And that's just the facts.

One of the best ever players for the City I just wished we had played him in his best position

One of the best ever players for the City I just wished we had played him in his best position

Can you elaborate on that?

Best performing player or just player that had the best career?

Surely to God you cannot mean you have not seen a player play better for Cardiff? He was abysmal for you guys. 6.48 average ratings wasn't it? Helping you to bottom of the league conceding left right and centre. For reference Leroy Fer had higher than that in both his seasons with us and Peter Whittingham exceeded Medels OPTA rating in a season where he was blamed for everything

Cardiff fans have always been desperate to make him into a cult hero despite his performances. It seems some still like to hold on to that notion. You have just let go a club legend who some speak awfully of while praise someone like Medel who showed utter contempt for the club with his lack of effort and commitment to the cause. Funny old world.

One of the best ever players for the City I just wished we had played him in his best position

Can you elaborate on that?

Best performing player or just player that had the best career?

Surely to God you cannot mean you have not seen a player play better for Cardiff? He was abysmal for you guys. 6.48 average ratings wasn't it? Helping you to bottom of the league conceding left right and centre. For reference Leroy Fer had higher than that in both his seasons with us and Peter Whittingham exceeded Medels OPTA rating in a season where he was blamed for everything

Cardiff fans have always been desperate to make him into a cult hero despite his performances. It seems some still like to hold on to that notion. You have just let go a club legend who some speak awfully of while praise someone like Medel who showed utter contempt for the club with his lack of effort and commitment to the cause. Funny old world.

Sure, we played him in midfield where is clearly a defender. The second half of that season was not great and he lost his way with many others . But I remember the Man City game where he was clearly the best player on the pitch.Also watching him play for Chile is a masterclass in how a back 3 works. But thats only my opinion and you are entitled to yours.

And yet was the worst on the pitch against many others. Again people are attributing his performances for Chile to Cardiff. They are not one and the same, his commitments and effort levels are not comparable.

He had maybe 3 good games for you, a handful of average ones and the rest were dire. Not as much of an opinion as a fact really, managers up and down the country use OPTA performance stats and many even wear performance boxes on the pitch for easy accessible data. There is a clear difference between his Cardiff performances and Chile performances, and he was poor to average for you.

For anyone to say that he hasn't been the best Cardiff player does others that have put in superb commitment and great performances for your club a great disservice.

One of the best ever players for the City I just wished we had played him in his best position

Can you elaborate on that?

Best performing player or just player that had the best career?

Surely to God you cannot mean you have not seen a player play better for Cardiff? He was abysmal for you guys. 6.48 average ratings wasn't it? Helping you to bottom of the league conceding left right and centre. For reference Leroy Fer had higher than that in both his seasons with us and Peter Whittingham exceeded Medels OPTA rating in a season where he was blamed for everything

Cardiff fans have always been desperate to make him into a cult hero despite his performances. It seems some still like to hold on to that notion. You have just let go a club legend who some speak awfully of while praise someone like Medel who showed utter contempt for the club with his lack of effort and commitment to the cause. Funny old world.

Christ almighty you've a lot to say about a player you've barely ever watched live for a club you don't even support. OPTA ratings can be misleading especially for more defensive players in a poor team.

He was head and shoulders our best midfielder especially playing against the big clubs with a specific job to do on an opposition star player. It was amazing how a 5"6 bloke could bully 6"2 players. Think that's part of his allure.

I have no idea what you're trying to make up in your last paragraph you just sound like a nerd. Utter contempt? Wtf are you on about. Spit out that dictionary you swallowed this morning.

I watched every single game he played in that season. He was dire. OPTA take into consideration defensive statistics, key battles won, tackles won, blocks made, successful tackes etc etc he fared awfully. His mobility was terrible, technical ability was terrible and his commitment in the tackle was terrible. He was decent when you had the ball as he offered an outlet as he situated himself just in front of the defence, but he very rarely payed any key passes just knocked it a few yards to start the move. A very important role, but to say he eas the best ever player for Cardiff is an insult to every player who pulled on the blue/red jersey and gave every ounce of effort they had.

contempt - it means showing disinterest to something deemed worthless or not important. Really is not a word anyone should struggle with.

Jesus christ i agree with Roathy.....

He just didn't have the mobility to truly compete in the premier league as a CM.

But Cardiff fans love a battler, so is classed as a cult hero.

Yes he tailed off badly but for most of his time under Malky he was excellent! Anyone who saw him play at Craven Cottahe saw an absolute masterclass that day! And you're no mug if you're playing for Inter Milan and Chile! In a back 3 he is superb.

Yes he tailed off badly but for most of his time under Malky he was excellent! Anyone who saw him play at Craven Cottahe saw an absolute masterclass that day! And you're no mug if you're playing for Inter Milan and Chile! In a back 3 he is superb.

He wasnt excellent for most of his time under Malky, again that is selective memory. He had all 3 of his good performances under Malky would be the more accurate sentence.

Playing for Chile and playing for Inter have no baring on his performances for Cardiff. It is amazing how many people use this to justify why he was supposedly good. The fact people can never really point to the time he was actually at the club (barring a few games) is telling.

Playing in the confed cup final tonight. Loved him playing for us.

Would love him back with us

I watched every single game he played in that season. He was dire. OPTA take into consideration defensive statistics, key battles won, tackles won, blocks made, successful tackes etc etc he fared awfully. His mobility was terrible, technical ability was terrible and his commitment in the tackle was terrible. He was decent when you had the ball as he offered an outlet as he situated himself just in front of the defence, but he very rarely payed any key passes just knocked it a few yards to start the move. A very important role, but to say he eas the best ever player for Cardiff is an insult to every player who pulled on the blue/red jersey and gave every ounce of effort they had.

contempt - it means showing disinterest to something deemed worthless or not important. Really is not a word anyone should struggle with.

Obsessed beyond belief hahaha

Just eternally correct young nub.

Quality player, better in a back 3 than in midfield. Had some quality games but was average at best for the money we spent on him and wasn't committed to the cause at all

I remember a number of people saying Jose Canas at Swansea was the far superior player, playing in Greece now I believe

Thats some memory for a chap whos only just joined the forum

Snackajack, you previously said Medel was anonymous when we beat you 1-0. He ran the game and I posted an unbiased link to a Guardian report who awarded him man of the match. You then watched the game again and admitted he had a good game.

Medel was excellent under Malky, if you watched every game he played again under Malky again instead of relying on stats, you would change your mind like the Swansea game.

He wasn't effective second half of the season because he was left exposed by Ole's tactics, plus he tore his thigh in February. Gary Medel is the greatest footballer I have ever seen for Cardiff.

I watched every single game he played in that season. He was dire. OPTA take into consideration defensive statistics, key battles won, tackles won, blocks made, successful tackes etc etc he fared awfully. His mobility was terrible, technical ability was terrible and his commitment in the tackle was terrible. He was decent when you had the ball as he offered an outlet as he situated himself just in front of the defence, but he very rarely payed any key passes just knocked it a few yards to start the move. A very important role, but to say he eas the best ever player for Cardiff is an insult to every player who pulled on the blue/red jersey and gave every ounce of effort they had.

contempt - it means showing disinterest to something deemed worthless or not important. Really is not a word anyone should struggle with.

WUM

If people are wound up by clear and obvious facts (that many of your own agree with) then maybe the internet isn't for them.

Snackajack, you previously said Medel was anonymous when we beat you 1-0. He ran the game and I posted an unbiased link to a Guardian report who awarded him man of the match. You then watched the game again and admitted he had a good game.

Medel was excellent under Malky, if you watched every game he played again under Malky again instead of relying on stats, you would change your mind like the Swansea game.

He wasn't effective second half of the season because he was left exposed by Ole's tactics, plus he tore his thigh in February. Gary Medel is the greatest footballer I have ever seen for Cardiff.

Statistics mean little to me, and watching a performance can often be entirely different to the stats presented. I don't believe he was as poor as Snackajack is making out, but you must have been watching City for a very short period of time if he is the greatest footballer you have seen at the club. Personally, I am not sure if he would even get into my top 10 based on the brief period he was here, and the handful of good games he actually had while he was here. In fact, if we are taking consistency into account as well as ability, I am not sure he would get into my top 20. I always thought he was a good player, but he was never a great player in my eyes.

Just eternally correct young nub.

I'm not bothered about your opinion, you crack on...it's just your obsession with Cardiff City I find amusing that's all.

Snackajack, you previously said Medel was anonymous when we beat you 1-0. He ran the game and I posted an unbiased link to a Guardian report who awarded him man of the match. You then watched the game again and admitted he had a good game.

Medel was excellent under Malky, if you watched every game he played again under Malky again instead of relying on stats, you would change your mind like the Swansea game.

He wasn't effective second half of the season because he was left exposed by Ole's tactics, plus he tore his thigh in February. Gary Medel is the greatest footballer I have ever seen for Cardiff.

Statistics mean little to me, and watching a performance can often be entirely different to the stats presented. I don't believe he was as poor as Snackajack is making out, but you must have been watching City for a very short period of time if he is the greatest footballer you have seen at the club. Personally, I am not sure if he would even get into my top 10 based on the brief period he was here, and the handful of good games he actually had while he was here. In fact, if we are taking consistency into account as well as ability, I am not sure he would get into my top 20. I always thought he was a good player, but he was never a great player in my eyes.

What City players would you put ahead of Medel then? I've watched City for nearly 30 years. Ramsey and Koumas (first loan spell) are the only players I would put close to Medel while they were with us.

Some of Medel's displays in the Premiership under Malky were superior to anything I saw from any other City player at that level. I'm not sure how you can say Medel wouldn't get in your top 20 as I assume the majority of those 20 players would never have played at Premiership level for us?

Snackajack, you previously said Medel was anonymous when we beat you 1-0. He ran the game and I posted an unbiased link to a Guardian report who awarded him man of the match. You then watched the game again and admitted he had a good game.

Medel was excellent under Malky, if you watched every game he played again under Malky again instead of relying on stats, you would change your mind like the Swansea game.

He wasn't effective second half of the season because he was left exposed by Ole's tactics, plus he tore his thigh in February. Gary Medel is the greatest footballer I have ever seen for Cardiff.

Statistics mean little to me, and watching a performance can often be entirely different to the stats presented. I don't believe he was as poor as Snackajack is making out, but you must have been watching City for a very short period of time if he is the greatest footballer you have seen at the club. Personally, I am not sure if he would even get into my top 10 based on the brief period he was here, and the handful of good games he actually had while he was here. In fact, if we are taking consistency into account as well as ability, I am not sure he would get into my top 20. I always thought he was a good player, but he was never a great player in my eyes.

What City players would you put ahead of Medel then? I've watched City for nearly 30 years. Ramsey and Koumas (first loan spell) are the only players I would put close to Medel while they were with us.

Some of Medel's displays in the Premiership under Malky were superior to anything I saw from any other City player at that level. I'm not sure how you can say Medel wouldn't get in your top 20 as I assume the majority of those 20 players would never have played at Premiership level for us?

Some of Medels performances were excellent, but unfortunately they were few and far between. In my opinion, he is what I call a luxury player, the odd really good game but mostly decent to mediocre. I prefer players who are consistent and can almost be banked on to give 100% and put in a good performance at the same time. I preferred the likes of Ian Gibson, Peter King, Peter Sayer, Brian Clarke, Alan Warboys, John Toshack and plenty of others who I have watched over the years. Admittedly most were not playing at the highest level, but Medel only briefly played at the top level in this country, and was part of a poor team that ended up rock bottom. It's all about opinions, and while I rate him as a good player, I think he rarely showed us what he is capable of.

Without de-railing the thread, Is this the place to discuss when Jefferson Montero is moving to Real Madrid for £50m? I seen to remember talk of that at one point from the Swansea faithful on here

And whoever said that was just as deluded as the ones who maintain Medel was a Cardiff great

I have no loyalty to fans of certain clubs, even my own. If they say a ridiculous thing then they deserve to be called out on it too. Go nuts

Just eternally correct young nub.

I'm not bothered about your opinion, you crack on...it's just your obsession with Cardiff City I find amusing that's all.

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