Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:35 pm
Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:41 pm
Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:47 pm
Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:54 pm
Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:03 pm
Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:08 pm
Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:11 pm
eddiep wrote:Can't wait to start calling Wez a Cardiff c**t instead of a Tory tw*t!!!!!![]()
Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:24 pm
Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:36 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:I think the whole thing is a con job to abolish Brexit.
Neither Labour or the Tories want it. So May calls an election under tne disguise she wants a manate to see Brexit through bacause she was getting opposition yo it.....right.
So an election is called and it is said it will be a landslide. A few weeks later nearer the election it could be a hung Parliament. What a trunaround and I smell a rat.
Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:38 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:I think the whole thing is a con job to abolish Brexit.
Neither Labour or the Tories want it. So May calls an election under tne disguise she wants a manate to see Brexit through bacause she was getting opposition yo it.....right.
So an election is called and it is said it will be a landslide. A few weeks later nearer the election it could be a hung Parliament. What a trunaround and I smell a rat.
Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:38 pm
Jock wrote:If May doesn't get a big majority Brexit will be a fekkin nightmare for all of us, it will drag on for decades.
Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:40 pm
wez1927 wrote:I have just copied this excellent post,
I await Labour supporters trying to deny this factual statement! It's a long read but well worth understanding before you vote what an absolute shambles it would be if labour actually won please readers think with your head tomorrow!!
People forget labour destroyed and nearly bankrupted this country before, left the mess for the Torys. It was also Labour that sent our men and women into the middle east only to line their own pockets due to the oil situation!
Some interesting facts to consider in case you've forgotten what the last Labour government brought upon the UK!
Firstly Up to 50 thousand 'excess' deaths were recorded at hospitals during the last Labour Goverment. (Research by Sir Brian Jarman of Imperial College).
Also hundreds of stealth taxes, paid by the working class people under the labour government!
To note between 1997 to 2010 gas prices rose and electricity prices rose 69%. Why would the public ever trust Labour on energy prices?
The devastating impact of Labour's raid on pensions!! tax grab has cost workers £118bn no since 1997 (Office for Budget Responsibility).
5) Labour spent £148.7 million on a National Measurements Office which forces traders to measure their goods in kilograms rather than pounds.
-The Royal Mail is now sold because of EU Postal Directive 2008/6/EC, brought in by the last Labour government.
Council Tax doubled under Labour - 105% increase in England, 146% Wales. (The Chartered Institute of Public Finance & Accountancy: 26/03/09).
In 2012/13 Labour councils employed nearly 23,000 people on zero-hour contracts.
£660 million has been cut from NHS over the last three years according to the Welsh TUC.
When Labour came to power in 1997, spending on NHS managers was less than £190m. By 2010 this had increased by 450% to over £1bn per year.
Labour wasted £11bn of taxpayers money on a failed IT project which was eventually scrapped by the NHS in 2013.
Labour lumbered the NHS with vast PFI repayments - £50 billion worth of loans which are costing £300 billion in repayments.
It was the Labour Party who awarded the DWP Medical Services Contract to ATOS on the 15th March 2005.
Labour started the privatisation of the NHS. They brought in the 2006 NHS Act that introduced competition into the NHS.
Labour introduced competition into the NHS: Competition Act 1998, Enterprise Act 2002 & Public Sector Procurement Regulations 2006.
In 2006 Gordon Brown cut the flood defence budget by £14 million.
Youth unemployment rose by more than 40% during Labour's 13 years in office.
Total stock of social housing fell under Labour - 421,000 homes were lost from the social housing stock between 1997 and 2010.
British manufacturing grew by 28% between 1980 and 1997. Then, under Labour, it shrank by 6%: falling from 20% of GDP to just 11%.
Labour left a deficit of £156 billion, PFI liability of £301 billion, EU Rebate loss £9.3 billion, Sold the Gold loss £6 billion.
The last Labour government spent so much money on Labour cronies that it had a 5% structural deficit at the height of the boom.
The use of food banks went up tenfold under Labour. From 3,000 users in 2005/06 to over 40,000 by 2009/10. (The Trussell Trust/C4 FactCheck).
When Labour's Gordon Brown became Prime Minister in 2007, UK public debt was 44.1% of GDP. When he left in 2010, it was 148.1%.
Only 6,330 council houses were completed from 1998 to 2010 under Labour, compared with 17,710 in 1990 alone - Thatcher's final year as PM.
Tony Blair gave away a chunk of the UK's EU rebate estimated now to have cost the UK £9.3 billion between 2007-2013.
In 2010 Gordon Brown branded Rochdale voter Gillian Duffy "a bigoted woman" for daring to voice her concern about uncontrolled immigration.
Labour are now complaining about gambling. But they were the ones who wanted to build Super Casinos in some of the poorest areas in Britain.
Labour closed more mines in 5 years than Thatcher did in 11 years.. 211 mines closed under Wilson 1965-70.. 154 under Thatcher 1979-90.
Under
Labour zero hour contracts increased by 74% between 2004 - 2009.
Since Labour liberalised the law in 2000 to allow postal voting on demand, the number of postal voting fraud in Labour areas has soared.
Labour wants to charge patients, lord Warner said people should pay a £10-a-month fee to use NHS/£20 for every night they stay in hospital.
Labour were responsible for the rise in payday lenders. Now they are campaigning against them?
Labour presided over the slowest growth in 50 years and produced the fastest decline in British manufacturing since manufacturing began!
Labour MPs to remember: Denis MacShane (jailed), David Chaytor (jailed), Eric Illsley (jailed), Elliot Morley (jailed), Jim Devine (jailed) Blair invaded Iraq and Brown invaded the Treasury, both actions crippled us!!
Corbyn doesn't appear to respect the peoples decision on Brexit!
Think Corbyn is your white knight he's far from it!
Vote wisely people and remember there are other options and parties to vote for.
Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:03 pm
Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:13 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:wez1927 wrote:I have just copied this excellent post,
I await Labour supporters trying to deny this factual statement! It's a long read but well worth understanding before you vote what an absolute shambles it would be if labour actually won please readers think with your head tomorrow!!
People forget labour destroyed and nearly bankrupted this country before, left the mess for the Torys. It was also Labour that sent our men and women into the middle east only to line their own pockets due to the oil situation!
Some interesting facts to consider in case you've forgotten what the last Labour government brought upon the UK!
Firstly Up to 50 thousand 'excess' deaths were recorded at hospitals during the last Labour Goverment. (Research by Sir Brian Jarman of Imperial College).
Also hundreds of stealth taxes, paid by the working class people under the labour government!
To note between 1997 to 2010 gas prices rose and electricity prices rose 69%. Why would the public ever trust Labour on energy prices?
The devastating impact of Labour's raid on pensions!! tax grab has cost workers £118bn no since 1997 (Office for Budget Responsibility).
5) Labour spent £148.7 million on a National Measurements Office which forces traders to measure their goods in kilograms rather than pounds.
-The Royal Mail is now sold because of EU Postal Directive 2008/6/EC, brought in by the last Labour government.
Council Tax doubled under Labour - 105% increase in England, 146% Wales. (The Chartered Institute of Public Finance & Accountancy: 26/03/09).
In 2012/13 Labour councils employed nearly 23,000 people on zero-hour contracts.
£660 million has been cut from NHS over the last three years according to the Welsh TUC.
When Labour came to power in 1997, spending on NHS managers was less than £190m. By 2010 this had increased by 450% to over £1bn per year.
Labour wasted £11bn of taxpayers money on a failed IT project which was eventually scrapped by the NHS in 2013.
Labour lumbered the NHS with vast PFI repayments - £50 billion worth of loans which are costing £300 billion in repayments.
It was the Labour Party who awarded the DWP Medical Services Contract to ATOS on the 15th March 2005.
Labour started the privatisation of the NHS. They brought in the 2006 NHS Act that introduced competition into the NHS.
Labour introduced competition into the NHS: Competition Act 1998, Enterprise Act 2002 & Public Sector Procurement Regulations 2006.
In 2006 Gordon Brown cut the flood defence budget by £14 million.
Youth unemployment rose by more than 40% during Labour's 13 years in office.
Total stock of social housing fell under Labour - 421,000 homes were lost from the social housing stock between 1997 and 2010.
British manufacturing grew by 28% between 1980 and 1997. Then, under Labour, it shrank by 6%: falling from 20% of GDP to just 11%.
Labour left a deficit of £156 billion, PFI liability of £301 billion, EU Rebate loss £9.3 billion, Sold the Gold loss £6 billion.
The last Labour government spent so much money on Labour cronies that it had a 5% structural deficit at the height of the boom.
The use of food banks went up tenfold under Labour. From 3,000 users in 2005/06 to over 40,000 by 2009/10. (The Trussell Trust/C4 FactCheck).
When Labour's Gordon Brown became Prime Minister in 2007, UK public debt was 44.1% of GDP. When he left in 2010, it was 148.1%.
Only 6,330 council houses were completed from 1998 to 2010 under Labour, compared with 17,710 in 1990 alone - Thatcher's final year as PM.
Tony Blair gave away a chunk of the UK's EU rebate estimated now to have cost the UK £9.3 billion between 2007-2013.
In 2010 Gordon Brown branded Rochdale voter Gillian Duffy "a bigoted woman" for daring to voice her concern about uncontrolled immigration.
Labour are now complaining about gambling. But they were the ones who wanted to build Super Casinos in some of the poorest areas in Britain.
Labour closed more mines in 5 years than Thatcher did in 11 years.. 211 mines closed under Wilson 1965-70.. 154 under Thatcher 1979-90.
Under
Labour zero hour contracts increased by 74% between 2004 - 2009.
Since Labour liberalised the law in 2000 to allow postal voting on demand, the number of postal voting fraud in Labour areas has soared.
Labour wants to charge patients, lord Warner said people should pay a £10-a-month fee to use NHS/£20 for every night they stay in hospital.
Labour were responsible for the rise in payday lenders. Now they are campaigning against them?
Labour presided over the slowest growth in 50 years and produced the fastest decline in British manufacturing since manufacturing began!
Labour MPs to remember: Denis MacShane (jailed), David Chaytor (jailed), Eric Illsley (jailed), Elliot Morley (jailed), Jim Devine (jailed) Blair invaded Iraq and Brown invaded the Treasury, both actions crippled us!!
Corbyn doesn't appear to respect the peoples decision on Brexit!
Think Corbyn is your white knight he's far from it!
Vote wisely people and remember there are other options and parties to vote for.
Wez do you help run the Tory campaign? Like your posts that's been a f**king disaster as well
Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:43 pm
wez1927 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:wez1927 wrote:I have just copied this excellent post,
I await Labour supporters trying to deny this factual statement! It's a long read but well worth understanding before you vote what an absolute shambles it would be if labour actually won please readers think with your head tomorrow!!
People forget labour destroyed and nearly bankrupted this country before, left the mess for the Torys. It was also Labour that sent our men and women into the middle east only to line their own pockets due to the oil situation!
Some interesting facts to consider in case you've forgotten what the last Labour government brought upon the UK!
Firstly Up to 50 thousand 'excess' deaths were recorded at hospitals during the last Labour Goverment. (Research by Sir Brian Jarman of Imperial College).
Also hundreds of stealth taxes, paid by the working class people under the labour government!
To note between 1997 to 2010 gas prices rose and electricity prices rose 69%. Why would the public ever trust Labour on energy prices?
The devastating impact of Labour's raid on pensions!! tax grab has cost workers £118bn no since 1997 (Office for Budget Responsibility).
5) Labour spent £148.7 million on a National Measurements Office which forces traders to measure their goods in kilograms rather than pounds.
-The Royal Mail is now sold because of EU Postal Directive 2008/6/EC, brought in by the last Labour government.
Council Tax doubled under Labour - 105% increase in England, 146% Wales. (The Chartered Institute of Public Finance & Accountancy: 26/03/09).
In 2012/13 Labour councils employed nearly 23,000 people on zero-hour contracts.
£660 million has been cut from NHS over the last three years according to the Welsh TUC.
When Labour came to power in 1997, spending on NHS managers was less than £190m. By 2010 this had increased by 450% to over £1bn per year.
Labour wasted £11bn of taxpayers money on a failed IT project which was eventually scrapped by the NHS in 2013.
Labour lumbered the NHS with vast PFI repayments - £50 billion worth of loans which are costing £300 billion in repayments.
It was the Labour Party who awarded the DWP Medical Services Contract to ATOS on the 15th March 2005.
Labour started the privatisation of the NHS. They brought in the 2006 NHS Act that introduced competition into the NHS.
Labour introduced competition into the NHS: Competition Act 1998, Enterprise Act 2002 & Public Sector Procurement Regulations 2006.
In 2006 Gordon Brown cut the flood defence budget by £14 million.
Youth unemployment rose by more than 40% during Labour's 13 years in office.
Total stock of social housing fell under Labour - 421,000 homes were lost from the social housing stock between 1997 and 2010.
British manufacturing grew by 28% between 1980 and 1997. Then, under Labour, it shrank by 6%: falling from 20% of GDP to just 11%.
Labour left a deficit of £156 billion, PFI liability of £301 billion, EU Rebate loss £9.3 billion, Sold the Gold loss £6 billion.
The last Labour government spent so much money on Labour cronies that it had a 5% structural deficit at the height of the boom.
The use of food banks went up tenfold under Labour. From 3,000 users in 2005/06 to over 40,000 by 2009/10. (The Trussell Trust/C4 FactCheck).
When Labour's Gordon Brown became Prime Minister in 2007, UK public debt was 44.1% of GDP. When he left in 2010, it was 148.1%.
Only 6,330 council houses were completed from 1998 to 2010 under Labour, compared with 17,710 in 1990 alone - Thatcher's final year as PM.
Tony Blair gave away a chunk of the UK's EU rebate estimated now to have cost the UK £9.3 billion between 2007-2013.
In 2010 Gordon Brown branded Rochdale voter Gillian Duffy "a bigoted woman" for daring to voice her concern about uncontrolled immigration.
Labour are now complaining about gambling. But they were the ones who wanted to build Super Casinos in some of the poorest areas in Britain.
Labour closed more mines in 5 years than Thatcher did in 11 years.. 211 mines closed under Wilson 1965-70.. 154 under Thatcher 1979-90.
Under
Labour zero hour contracts increased by 74% between 2004 - 2009.
Since Labour liberalised the law in 2000 to allow postal voting on demand, the number of postal voting fraud in Labour areas has soared.
Labour wants to charge patients, lord Warner said people should pay a £10-a-month fee to use NHS/£20 for every night they stay in hospital.
Labour were responsible for the rise in payday lenders. Now they are campaigning against them?
Labour presided over the slowest growth in 50 years and produced the fastest decline in British manufacturing since manufacturing began!
Labour MPs to remember: Denis MacShane (jailed), David Chaytor (jailed), Eric Illsley (jailed), Elliot Morley (jailed), Jim Devine (jailed) Blair invaded Iraq and Brown invaded the Treasury, both actions crippled us!!
Corbyn doesn't appear to respect the peoples decision on Brexit!
Think Corbyn is your white knight he's far from it!
Vote wisely people and remember there are other options and parties to vote for.
Wez do you help run the Tory campaign? Like your posts that's been a f**king disaster as well
Truth hurts ,is above not true ?
Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:09 pm
Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:15 am
bluebird04 wrote:Well I think you can rule out a political career wez, the amount of times you have failed with your nonsense on here to convince people to vote Tory is pathetic you have probably convinced more people to vote Corbyn than the Other way. The best we can hope for is a hung parliament. The government to then be in turmoil during the brexit negotiating and a Tory party falling apart. Labour at the final hour has seen a surge in the party thanks to Corbyn and now probably realise that if they backed him instead of political sabotaging him labour would probably be in with a good shout. But the rise of Corbyn and the likes of Bernie shows the change in political scope, us youngsters are a new wave of socialist left wing liberals and it seems the right wing is just a bunch of middle aged well off people who once they reach retirement and realise they get shafted by the tories they will be claiming they were a.ways against them
Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:25 am
bluebird04 wrote:Well I think you can rule out a political career wez, the amount of times you have failed with your nonsense on here to convince people to vote Tory is pathetic you have probably convinced more people to vote Corbyn than the Other way. The best we can hope for is a hung parliament. The government to then be in turmoil during the brexit negotiating and a Tory party falling apart. Labour at the final hour has seen a surge in the party thanks to Corbyn and now probably realise that if they backed him instead of political sabotaging him labour would probably be in with a good shout. But the rise of Corbyn and the likes of Bernie shows the change in political scope, us youngsters are a new wave of socialist left wing liberals and it seems the right wing is just a bunch of middle aged well off people who once they reach retirement and realise they get shafted by the tories they will be claiming they were a.ways against them
Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:24 am
Wayne S wrote:I'm pretty glad it'll be over tomorrow.
No more lobbying or fake news.
Let's be honest we all know what is going to happen. The Tories will get back in but May might not get the increased majority which was the reason she went to the nation.
It'll be intriguing to see if she stays leader if they come out of this worse off. She'll definitely go if there is no majority but I don't think it will get that bad.
Labour successfully made it about the full range of issues instead of just Brexit and this affected the Conservatives.
It's a shame the other parties have been so anonymous because the main two have had major issues. Abbott had a mare early on and I'd like to know where the hell Phillip Hammond is.
Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:26 am
wez1927 wrote:I have just copied this excellent post,
I await Labour supporters trying to deny this factual statement! It's a long read but well worth understanding before you vote what an absolute shambles it would be if labour actually won please readers think with your head tomorrow!!
People forget labour destroyed and nearly bankrupted this country before, left the mess for the Torys. It was also Labour that sent our men and women into the middle east only to line their own pockets due to the oil situation!
Some interesting facts to consider in case you've forgotten what the last Labour government brought upon the UK!
Firstly Up to 50 thousand 'excess' deaths were recorded at hospitals during the last Labour Goverment. (Research by Sir Brian Jarman of Imperial College).
Also hundreds of stealth taxes, paid by the working class people under the labour government!
To note between 1997 to 2010 gas prices rose and electricity prices rose 69%. Why would the public ever trust Labour on energy prices?
The devastating impact of Labour's raid on pensions!! tax grab has cost workers £118bn no since 1997 (Office for Budget Responsibility).
5) Labour spent £148.7 million on a National Measurements Office which forces traders to measure their goods in kilograms rather than pounds.
-The Royal Mail is now sold because of EU Postal Directive 2008/6/EC, brought in by the last Labour government.
Council Tax doubled under Labour - 105% increase in England, 146% Wales. (The Chartered Institute of Public Finance & Accountancy: 26/03/09).
In 2012/13 Labour councils employed nearly 23,000 people on zero-hour contracts.
£660 million has been cut from NHS over the last three years according to the Welsh TUC.
When Labour came to power in 1997, spending on NHS managers was less than £190m. By 2010 this had increased by 450% to over £1bn per year.
Labour wasted £11bn of taxpayers money on a failed IT project which was eventually scrapped by the NHS in 2013.
Labour lumbered the NHS with vast PFI repayments - £50 billion worth of loans which are costing £300 billion in repayments.
It was the Labour Party who awarded the DWP Medical Services Contract to ATOS on the 15th March 2005.
Labour started the privatisation of the NHS. They brought in the 2006 NHS Act that introduced competition into the NHS.
Labour introduced competition into the NHS: Competition Act 1998, Enterprise Act 2002 & Public Sector Procurement Regulations 2006.
In 2006 Gordon Brown cut the flood defence budget by £14 million.
Youth unemployment rose by more than 40% during Labour's 13 years in office.
Total stock of social housing fell under Labour - 421,000 homes were lost from the social housing stock between 1997 and 2010.
British manufacturing grew by 28% between 1980 and 1997. Then, under Labour, it shrank by 6%: falling from 20% of GDP to just 11%.
Labour left a deficit of £156 billion, PFI liability of £301 billion, EU Rebate loss £9.3 billion, Sold the Gold loss £6 billion.
The last Labour government spent so much money on Labour cronies that it had a 5% structural deficit at the height of the boom.
The use of food banks went up tenfold under Labour. From 3,000 users in 2005/06 to over 40,000 by 2009/10. (The Trussell Trust/C4 FactCheck).
When Labour's Gordon Brown became Prime Minister in 2007, UK public debt was 44.1% of GDP. When he left in 2010, it was 148.1%.
Only 6,330 council houses were completed from 1998 to 2010 under Labour, compared with 17,710 in 1990 alone - Thatcher's final year as PM.
Tony Blair gave away a chunk of the UK's EU rebate estimated now to have cost the UK £9.3 billion between 2007-2013.
In 2010 Gordon Brown branded Rochdale voter Gillian Duffy "a bigoted woman" for daring to voice her concern about uncontrolled immigration.
Labour are now complaining about gambling. But they were the ones who wanted to build Super Casinos in some of the poorest areas in Britain.
Labour closed more mines in 5 years than Thatcher did in 11 years.. 211 mines closed under Wilson 1965-70.. 154 under Thatcher 1979-90.
Under
Labour zero hour contracts increased by 74% between 2004 - 2009.
Since Labour liberalised the law in 2000 to allow postal voting on demand, the number of postal voting fraud in Labour areas has soared.
Labour wants to charge patients, lord Warner said people should pay a £10-a-month fee to use NHS/£20 for every night they stay in hospital.
Labour were responsible for the rise in payday lenders. Now they are campaigning against them?
Labour presided over the slowest growth in 50 years and produced the fastest decline in British manufacturing since manufacturing began!
Labour MPs to remember: Denis MacShane (jailed), David Chaytor (jailed), Eric Illsley (jailed), Elliot Morley (jailed), Jim Devine (jailed) Blair invaded Iraq and Brown invaded the Treasury, both actions crippled us!!
Corbyn doesn't appear to respect the peoples decision on Brexit!
Think Corbyn is your white knight he's far from it!
Vote wisely people and remember there are other options and parties to vote for.
Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:27 am
Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:35 am
Jock wrote:If May doesn't get a big majority Brexit will be a fekkin nightmare for all of us, it will drag on for decades.
Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:50 am
Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:00 am
Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:16 am
langley wrote:Why can't people just keep their beliefs to themselves, ..this is a football forum.
Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:08 am
Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:17 am
pembroke allan wrote:Im neither a con or Labour voter in fact I don't vote so as an impartial view Wez! for everything in this read you can guarantee that the conservatives have screwed Joe public and services when ever they were in power or is this a one sided view??
Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:20 am
Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:56 am
bluebird04 wrote:Well I think you can rule out a political career wez, the amount of times you have failed with your nonsense on here to convince people to vote Tory is pathetic you have probably convinced more people to vote Corbyn than the Other way. The best we can hope for is a hung parliament. The government to then be in turmoil during the brexit negotiating and a Tory party falling apart. Labour at the final hour has seen a surge in the party thanks to Corbyn and now probably realise that if they backed him instead of political sabotaging him labour would probably be in with a good shout. But the rise of Corbyn and the likes of Bernie shows the change in political scope, us youngsters are a new wave of socialist left wing liberals and it seems the right wing is just a bunch of middle aged well off people who once they reach retirement and realise they get shafted by the tories they will be claiming they were a.ways against them
Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:28 am
angelis1949 wrote:bluebird04 wrote:Well I think you can rule out a political career wez, the amount of times you have failed with your nonsense on here to convince people to vote Tory is pathetic you have probably convinced more people to vote Corbyn than the Other way. The best we can hope for is a hung parliament. The government to then be in turmoil during the brexit negotiating and a Tory party falling apart. Labour at the final hour has seen a surge in the party thanks to Corbyn and now probably realise that if they backed him instead of political sabotaging him labour would probably be in with a good shout. But the rise of Corbyn and the likes of Bernie shows the change in political scope, us youngsters are a new wave of socialist left wing liberals and it seems the right wing is just a bunch of middle aged well off people who once they reach retirement and realise they get shafted by the tories they will be claiming they were a.ways against them
Awwww bless, you really are deluded