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" HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:27 pm

" HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

If in the next transfer market Cardiff City had to raise money or say even Warnock had to raise money from our current squad.

Can City fans on here name me at least five players we could sell and how much we would get for them? ?


I am really interested in you opinions :thumbright: :thumbright:
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Re: " HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:34 pm

1. Noone £300k
2. Declan John £200k
3. Manga £500k if we are lucky.
4. O'Keefe £400k
5 Kennedy £400k

Re: " HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:35 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:1. Noone £300k
2. Declan John £200k
3. Manga £500k if we are lucky.
4. O'Keefe £400k
5 Kennedy £400k


Manga's injured Ian and his current contract runs out this May and with his wages approx £25,000 a week, theres nothing to sell.
Hopefully he stays on a new low wage contact :thumbright:

Re: " HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:36 pm

1.) Gunnarsson, £600,000-£1,000,000

2.) Pilkington - £1,000,000-1,200,000

3.) Noone - £600,000 - £1,000,000

4.) Connolly - £500,000-£750,000

5.) Joe Bennett - £600,000-£1,000,000

We are not very good at selling players and that is not a list of 5 players I would necessarily want to sell but they are players who should have value and I think those figures are quite conservative. :bluescarf:

Re: " HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:39 pm

Agree all have value. Gunnar has to be 2m captain of iceland. Noone. 250k due to high wages too. Pilks 1m at most. Connolly 300k...morrison 500k....harris 150k

Re: " HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:41 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:1. Noone £300k
2. Declan John £200k
3. Manga £500k if we are lucky.
4. O'Keefe £400k
5 Kennedy £400k


Manga's injured Ian and his current contract runs out this May and with his wages approx £25,000 a week, theres nothing to sell.
Hopefully he stays on a new low wage contact :thumbright:


Yes I know hence the words if we are lucky.

It would not surprise me if some outfit guarantees his services by offering us a good will offer. He will have recovered by May and will be a target for quite a few clubs. Getting such a player just before his contract runs out at a low price is a common occurence.

Re: " HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:43 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:1. Noone £300k
2. Declan John £200k
3. Manga £500k if we are lucky.
4. O'Keefe £400k
5 Kennedy £400k


Manga's injured Ian and his current contract runs out this May and with his wages approx £25,000 a week, theres nothing to sell.
Hopefully he stays on a new low wage contact :thumbright:


Yes I know hence the words if we are lucky.

It would not surprise me if some outfit guarantees his services by offering us a good will offer. He will have recovered by May and will be a target for quite a few clubs. Getting such a player just before his contract runs out at a low price is a common occurence.



Ian, I will be gutted if Manga walks this May and we can't negotiate a new contract with him.

Re: " HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:46 pm

RV Casual wrote:1.) Gunnarsson, £600,000-£1,000,000 :thumbright:

2.) Pilkington - £1,000,000-1,200,000 :shock: £500,000 max

3.) Noone - £600,000 - £1,000,000 :lol: Mate we would be lucky for £500,000

4.) Connolly - £500,000-£750,000 :lol: £250,000 max

5.) Joe Bennett - £600,000-£1,000,000 :lol:

We are not very good at selling players and that is not a list of 5 players I would necessarily want to sell but they are players who should have value and I think those figures are quite conservative. :bluescarf:

Re: " HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:02 pm

grange_end1927 wrote:
RV Casual wrote:1.) Gunnarsson, £600,000-£1,000,000 :thumbright:

2.) Pilkington - £1,000,000-1,200,000 :shock: £500,000 max

3.) Noone - £600,000 - £1,000,000 :lol: Mate we would be lucky for £500,000

4.) Connolly - £500,000-£750,000 :lol: £250,000 max

5.) Joe Bennett - £600,000-£1,000,000 :lol:

We are not very good at selling players and that is not a list of 5 players I would necessarily want to sell but they are players who should have value and I think those figures are quite conservative. :bluescarf:



I disagree mate, its up to the Club to sell the players and push out for maximum value, we seem to have accepted that our players are not worth a lot, I don't believe that's the case.

You have a look at the figures players from other Clubs are moving around for, Aston Villa just paid £2.75 million for Henri Lansbury as an example, if he is worth that then we should be able to nick a £1,000,000 out of someone for Pilkington.

Sheffield Wednesday wanted to sign Joe Bennett at the same time as us, what makes you think it so unbelievable that they would be willing to pay I don't know, say £700,000 for him in the summer if he has a good end to the season for us?

Connolly we should be able to nick £500,000 out of someone for him, he's a first team regular with bags of experience and only 29, not unbelievable to think we could move him on to one of the better League 1 sides or another Championship Club for a decent fee.

As for Noone, I honestly believe we could command a decent fee for him, if the Club put it out there that he was available at say £750,000 I reckon there would be plenty of Clubs who would be interested in taking a chance on him at that price.

We need to stop devaluing our players and start getting some value back, the problem is we have got a name for ourselves now as a Club that doesn't ask for much.

Re: " HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:04 pm

Saadi 1000k
Zohore 1000K
Morrison 1000K
Pilkington 1000K
Gunnarson 750K
Bennett 500K
Connolly 500K
Noone 250K
O'Keefe 250K
Huws 250K
John 50K


Ralls, Peltier, Sol, Richards,Halford to stay


Manga, Whitts, Holiett,Harris released
Fred - Mutual (good at this)
Lambert - Mutual (retirement with a golden handshake)



Lots of good frees will be available, salary will be important

Re: " HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:07 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:1. Noone £300k
2. Declan John £200k
3. Manga £500k if we are lucky.
4. O'Keefe £400k
5 Kennedy £400k


You are on a wind up here Bakes can't take this post seriously.

You are saying Kennedy and O'Keefe would be worth more than Noone? :lol:

We would easily get 1 mil or more for Noone, loads of clubs rate him in our division, I think the lower half of clubs would take a punt in the Prem, Manga would get 1 mil or more easily.

Re: " HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:08 pm

What happened to the money for the sale of Marshall and Fabio back September time ???

"We need to sell before we buy " - said The CHOO CHOO Train ;)

Re: " HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:12 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:1. Noone £300k
2. Declan John £200k
3. Manga £500k if we are lucky.
4. O'Keefe £400k
5 Kennedy £400k


You are on a wind up here Bakes can't take this post seriously.

You are saying Kennedy and O'Keefe would be worth more than Noone? :lol:

We would easily get 1 mil or more for Noone, loads of clubs rate him in our division, I think the lower half of clubs would take a punt in the Prem, Manga would get 1 mil or more easily.



What Manga £1mill currently injured for up to 6 weeks and contract then runs out two months later and you reckon we would get a £mill now that is madness.

I hope we get £1mill for Noone this Summer :thumbright:

Re: " HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:01 pm

TopCat CCFC wrote:What happened to the money for the sale of Marshall and Fabio back September time ???

"We need to sell before we buy " - said The CHOO CHOO Train ;)


we brought in amos,huws,bennett,richards,immers, lambert murphy,zohore, gounogbe,hoilett.bamba. at a cost of over 5 million a year in wages

Re: " HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:23 pm

its more likely we will to some extent pay 5 players a lump of money to leave.

o keefe. not wanted.signed a new contract and playing lge 1
huws. 2 years left on contract that ipswich failed to match even with us stumping up cash.
lambert. huge wages forever injured
noone . cant get regular games ahead of a player that cant pass or cross the ball
fred. well

the players of value id imagine NW would want to keep?

the on going problem here is not we have to sell, but clubs dont want to pay the inflated wages for players that are not playing well or in some cases just not playing at all

Re: " HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:29 pm

dogfound wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:What happened to the money for the sale of Marshall and Fabio back September time ???

"We need to sell before we buy " - said The CHOO CHOO Train ;)


we brought in amos,huws,bennett,richards,immers, lambert murphy,zohore, gounogbe,hoilett.bamba. at a cost of over 5 million a year in wages


Money well spent !!! lMMERS was signed before those 2 were sold - a few others on that list were here before again.
As for the players NW got in they were FREES ...Well after the September window ;)

Just to add - we let Lex go for FREE :roll:

Re: " HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:43 pm

TopCat CCFC wrote:
dogfound wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:What happened to the money for the sale of Marshall and Fabio back September time ???

"We need to sell before we buy " - said The CHOO CHOO Train ;)


we brought in amos,huws,bennett,richards,immers, lambert murphy,zohore, gounogbe,hoilett.bamba. at a cost of over 5 million a year in wages


Money well spent !!! lMMERS was signed before those 2 were sold - a few others on that list were here before again.
As for the players NW got in they were FREES ...Well after the September window ;)

Just to add - we let Lex go for FREE :roll:


the fact they were frees and signed after september doesnt exclude them from being paid.
i did say wages btw.
money well spent. no.but would you have not signed lex, or huws or lambert.i think a lot of our fans would have :thumbup: :thumbup:

Re: " HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:54 am

Forever Blue wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:1. Noone £300k
2. Declan John £200k
3. Manga £500k if we are lucky.
4. O'Keefe £400k
5 Kennedy £400k


You are on a wind up here Bakes can't take this post seriously.

You are saying Kennedy and O'Keefe would be worth more than Noone? :lol:

We would easily get 1 mil or more for Noone, loads of clubs rate him in our division, I think the lower half of clubs would take a punt in the Prem, Manga would get 1 mil or more easily.



What Manga £1mill currently injured for up to 6 weeks and contract then runs out two months later and you reckon we would get a £mill now that is madness.

I hope we get £1mill for Noone this Summer :thumbright:


No chance we will get Noone for a £1m. I mean he is used as an impact player here now and he is losing that criteria as well.

Manga you do realise he is out of contract at the end of the season?

Re: " HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:09 am

I read the OP and then gave it some consideration and I have to say I pretty much agree with Bakedalasker's valuations on all of them except Manga (for the reasons stated by Annis, i.e. he is injured and out of contract come the end of May) :thumbup:

On reflection of the original question, I am flabbergasted that we currently have a highly paid squad who have an effective 'value' of little more than £1m between them and have to say Noone is nowhere near that valuation on current form and would be difficult to shift anyway with the money he is on (c.£20k pw if figures are to be believed)

It is really is incredible when you consider that even the much-maligned Sam left the club with a few (mainly homegrown) players of high value, including Ramsey, Ledley, Matthews, etc. and the fact that we didn't get true value (or at least a sell on fee) for any of them once Sam had gone is a separate debate in itself! :(

Re: " HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:37 am

Sven wrote:I read the OP and then gave it some consideration and I have to say I pretty much agree with Bakedalasker's valuations on all of them except Manga (for the reasons stated by Annis, i.e. he is injured and out of contract come the end of May) :thumbup:

On reflection of the original question, I am flabbergasted that we currently have a highly paid squad who have an effective 'value' of little more than £1m between them and have to say Noone is nowhere near that valuation on current form and would be difficult to shift anyway with the money he is on (c.£20k pw if figures are to be believed)

It is really is incredible when you consider that even the much-maligned Sam left the club with a few (mainly homegrown) players of high value, including Ramsey, Ledley, Matthews, etc. and the fact that we didn't get true value (or at least a sell on fee) for any of them once Sam had gone is a separate debate in itself! :(


Chris, Your virtually spot on, For me its hard to believe if City tried to sell what is left of ur squad it would hardly bring anything in, yet the wages we are still paying out, do not warrant what they are worth.

I think Gunnarson is prob worth the most out of the whole of our squad,just my opinion :thumbright:

Craig Noone be lucky to get £500,000 as his high wages and inconstancy devalues him.

For me for the squad is worth the lowest I have seen in the last 15 years and we still need to get rid of dead wood.

If Warnock can sign up Sol Bamba and Junior Hoilett on fair wages for them and our club I believe they would have the highest value. :thumbright:

Re: " HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:12 am

TBH I think only Gunner as any real value at the moment £1m.
Maybe Pilks,Morrison,Noone and Connoly £1m in total for the four of them, mainly because their wages are so high,nobody would pay more.
The players out on loan. Would probably fetch £1.5m in total and there's about 10 of them again because of their wages.
Not a very good position to be in,they are like new cars losing their value by the day :(

Re: " HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:19 am

We have to remember the transfer committee or te three wise men!!! have no football experience whatsoever and paid out high wages and long contracts to average to good players.

Manga is injured and then out of contract...he will walk in my opinion
Whitts has been offered a new contract...will he go or will he stay?
Noone has gone down hill rapidly...this transfer committee will probably give him away for peanuts
Lambert..will they pay him off to get off the wage bill?
Harris...not really good enough £150k
Huws...who knows..we need him to play welll for Ipswich and hope someone comes in
Declan...he will want to go for game time...200k
Pilks...should get a mill for him with his goals
Ralls....400k
O Keefe willwant to go for game time 300 -400k?
Conolly...400k
Bennett...400k
Fred..free
Amos goes back
maybe Saaidi sold?

My twelve would be out of that 15

Murphy plus New Keeper
Peltier plus 1 depends if Bennett or Conolly sold
Richards PLUS 1 depends if Bennet and Connolly sold
Morrison...i think Warnock likes him
Bamba
Halford plus i more centre back
Gunnarsson Two more centre midfields one playmaker needed and pace
Whitts ?
Hoilett Two more wingers with pace
Zohore Two good strikers with pace

That would leave 20 plus 1-3 not sold of the above.

I think at least the 3 -4 quality players would be centre midfield/striker/winger/goalkeeper

just my opinion

:bluescarf:

Re: " HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:32 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Sven wrote:I read the OP and then gave it some consideration and I have to say I pretty much agree with Bakedalasker's valuations on all of them except Manga (for the reasons stated by Annis, i.e. he is injured and out of contract come the end of May) :thumbup:

On reflection of the original question, I am flabbergasted that we currently have a highly paid squad who have an effective 'value' of little more than £1m between them and have to say Noone is nowhere near that valuation on current form and would be difficult to shift anyway with the money he is on (c.£20k pw if figures are to be believed)

It is really is incredible when you consider that even the much-maligned Sam left the club with a few (mainly homegrown) players of high value, including Ramsey, Ledley, Matthews, etc. and the fact that we didn't get true value (or at least a sell on fee) for any of them once Sam had gone is a separate debate in itself! :(


Chris, Your virtually spot on, For me its hard to believe if City tried to sell what is left of ur squad it would hardly bring anything in, yet the wages we are still paying out, do not warrant what they are worth.

I think Gunnarson is prob worth the most out of the whole of our squad,just my opinion :thumbright:

Craig Noone be lucky to get £500,000 as his high wages and inconstancy devalues him.

For me for the squad is worth the lowest I have seen in the last 15 years and we still need to get rid of dead wood.

If Warnock can sign up Sol Bamba and Junior Hoilett on fair wages for them and our club I believe they would have the highest value. :thumbright:

Agree with both of you on this. Not much would be raised if we sold all our players, they are all fairly low value, and a quick glance at the league table should back up your valuations.

Re: " HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:59 am

Wilson £500k
John £750k - 1.2m
O'Keefe £750k
Noone £2m
Fred £1-2m
Lambert £500k

Potential- £6m

i think if Warnock can get a £5-7m transfer fund he'll have to wheel and deal but should just get who he needs in.

I think we still need to be careful who we get rid of on top of them as we will then need to replace eg if we sell 1 x of 3 CB then we still need 2 CB.

For me I'd bring in a gk, Cb, Fb, cam, w, 2 x cf

I think you also have to look at football at the moment - the inflation is crazy so although people may scoff it could happen.

If anything football needs a spend cap it's getting ridiculous.

Re: " HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:33 am

Too optomistic for me... we will be lucky to get 2mill in all no one will pay £500 k for Lambert he s had it
Fred more likely to be 1-2 quid...but i like your optomism :thumbright: :thumbright:

Re: " HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:59 am

some optomistic figures within this thread including fees for players who came here on free transfers. and have done sod all.

Re: " HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:46 pm

Didn't realise Manga was OOC in the summer.

Noone we can easily get a million because we have had higher up clubs sniff around for him and hes got a big reputation in this division.. players get signed more on reputation on previous spells or games rather than form.

Re: " HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:55 pm

Noone - 350,000
Pilkington - 800,000
O'Keefe - 300,000
Gounongbe - 100,000 (maybe less)
Connolly - 500,000
Huws - 400,000

If we were to sell Gunnarsson then we'd sell him for £1,500,000 at an estimate - due to the Euros, don't forget Medel went for a hefty price after the World Cup.

Is Adeyemi due to return or have we sold him permanently?

Re: " HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:18 pm

Couldn't imagine Rotherham getting Adeyemi off us on a permanent deal?

Re: " HOW MANY CARDIFF CITY PLAYERS & HOW MUCH? "

Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:30 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:Couldn't imagine Rotherham getting Adeyemi off us on a permanent deal?


Hes out of contact in the summer aswel mate so will sign for someone for nothing