Immigrants!

Data is in

2.9% of people who live in Wales were born in the EU!

However, close to 20% of citizens in Wales, come from England.

So who is it coming over here taking our Welsh jobs? Is it retired Italians clogging up our hospitals? Wealthly Dutch buying second homes and driving up house prices for the locals

hmmm...

Probably more Welsh people living in England.

Data is in

2.9% of people who live in Wales were born in the EU!

However, close to 20% of citizens in Wales, come from England.

So who is it coming over here taking our Welsh jobs? Is it retired Italians clogging up our hospitals? Wealthly Dutch buying second homes and driving up house prices for the locals

hmmm...

That's can't be right that figure coz technically if your born in Wales and England since the Eu started you were born in the Eu

Data is in

2.9% of people who live in Wales were born in the EU!

However, close to 20% of citizens in Wales, come from England.

So who is it coming over here taking our Welsh jobs? Is it retired Italians clogging up our hospitals? Wealthly Dutch buying second homes and driving up house prices for the locals

hmmm...

That's can't be right that figure coz technically if your born in Wales and England since the Eu started you were born in the Eu

A point well made!

Data is in

2.9% of people who live in Wales were born in the EU!

However, close to 20% of citizens in Wales, come from England.

So who is it coming over here taking our Welsh jobs? Is it retired Italians clogging up our hospitals? Wealthly Dutch buying second homes and driving up house prices for the locals

hmmm...

All those 2.9% must have been in my local casualty dept., last time I was there. I speak English only, and there were 5 other people speaking English. Around 17 of us there in total, the rest were speaking a variety of languages, but no Welsh. I said to my wife that I never expected to find myself in a minority in S Wales, although I accept that this may have been an exception and on another day would probably be the opposite. I have no real opinion on this debate, this is just an observation, but it seems to me that the more people in this country, whether thay be British or from overseas, the more pressure on public services is the obvious result.

Data is in

2.9% of people who live in Wales were born in the EU!

However, close to 20% of citizens in Wales, come from England.

So who is it coming over here taking our Welsh jobs? Is it retired Italians clogging up our hospitals? Wealthly Dutch buying second homes and driving up house prices for the locals

hmmm...

You really should look at the bigger picture and stop worrying about the English, how many Welsh vans cross the Severn Bridge everyday working n Bristol.

Data is in

2.9% of people who live in Wales were born in the EU!

However, close to 20% of citizens in Wales, come from England.

So who is it coming over here taking our Welsh jobs? Is it retired Italians clogging up our hospitals? Wealthly Dutch buying second homes and driving up house prices for the locals

hmmm...

All those 2.9% must have been in my local casualty dept., last time I was there. I speak English only, and there were 5 other people speaking English. Around 17 of us there in total, the rest were speaking a variety of languages, but no Welsh. I said to my wife that I never expected to find myself in a minority in S Wales, although I accept that this may have been an exception and on another day would probably be the opposite. I have no real opinion on this debate, this is just an observation, but it seems to me that the more people in this country, whether thay be British or from overseas, the more pressure on public services is the obvious result.

I had 5 operations last year and the wards are full of overseas patients,the NHS is on it knees

Data is in

2.9% of people who live in Wales were born in the EU!

However, close to 20% of citizens in Wales, come from England.

So who is it coming over here taking our Welsh jobs? Is it retired Italians clogging up our hospitals? Wealthly Dutch buying second homes and driving up house prices for the locals

hmmm...

All those 2.9% must have been in my local casualty dept., last time I was there. I speak English only, and there were 5 other people speaking English. Around 17 of us there in total, the rest were speaking a variety of languages, but no Welsh. I said to my wife that I never expected to find myself in a minority in S Wales, although I accept that this may have been an exception and on another day would probably be the opposite. I have no real opinion on this debate, this is just an observation, but it seems to me that the more people in this country, whether thay be British or from overseas, the more pressure on public services is the obvious result.

I had 5 operations last year and the wards are full of overseas patients,the NHS is on it knees

That's a bit rich slagging off immigrants for putting on the NHS when you had no less than five operations yourself don't you think?

If you spent so much time in hospital perhaps you would also have seen the majority of doctors are not locals

Data is in

2.9% of people who live in Wales were born in the EU!

However, close to 20% of citizens in Wales, come from England.

So who is it coming over here taking our Welsh jobs? Is it retired Italians clogging up our hospitals? Wealthly Dutch buying second homes and driving up house prices for the locals

hmmm...

All those 2.9% must have been in my local casualty dept., last time I was there. I speak English only, and there were 5 other people speaking English. Around 17 of us there in total, the rest were speaking a variety of languages, but no Welsh. I said to my wife that I never expected to find myself in a minority in S Wales, although I accept that this may have been an exception and on another day would probably be the opposite. I have no real opinion on this debate, this is just an observation, but it seems to me that the more people in this country, whether thay be British or from overseas, the more pressure on public services is the obvious result.

I had 5 operations last year and the wards are full of overseas patients,the NHS is on it knees

That's a bit rich slagging off immigrants for putting on the NHS when you had no less than five operations yourself don't you think?

If you spent so much time in hospital perhaps you would also have seen the majority of doctors are not locals

5 kidney operations I had 3 of them were coz they messed the first two up and the surgeon who messed up was an Indian doctor ,also as a British tax payer it's my right to have health care I've paid for that right over my whole life !

Data is in

2.9% of people who live in Wales were born in the EU!

However, close to 20% of citizens in Wales, come from England.

So who is it coming over here taking our Welsh jobs? Is it retired Italians clogging up our hospitals? Wealthly Dutch buying second homes and driving up house prices for the locals

hmmm...

Still British and would have paid into OUR tax system!!

Data is in

2.9% of people who live in Wales were born in the EU!

However, close to 20% of citizens in Wales, come from England.

So who is it coming over here taking our Welsh jobs? Is it retired Italians clogging up our hospitals? Wealthly Dutch buying second homes and driving up house prices for the locals

hmmm...

Still British and would have paid into OUR tax system!!

Exactly,i really don't get the love in for the Eu

Data is in

2.9% of people who live in Wales were born in the EU!

However, close to 20% of citizens in Wales, come from England.

So who is it coming over here taking our Welsh jobs? Is it retired Italians clogging up our hospitals? Wealthly Dutch buying second homes and driving up house prices for the locals

hmmm...

Still British and would have paid into OUR tax system!!

Exactly,i really don't get the love in for the Eu

Nor do I Wez, they don't help the UK at all, just take take and try to decide our futures.

Data is in

2.9% of people who live in Wales were born in the EU!

However, close to 20% of citizens in Wales, come from England.

So who is it coming over here taking our Welsh jobs? Is it retired Italians clogging up our hospitals? Wealthly Dutch buying second homes and driving up house prices for the locals

hmmm...

All those 2.9% must have been in my local casualty dept., last time I was there. I speak English only, and there were 5 other people speaking English. Around 17 of us there in total, the rest were speaking a variety of languages, but no Welsh. I said to my wife that I never expected to find myself in a minority in S Wales, although I accept that this may have been an exception and on another day would probably be the opposite. I have no real opinion on this debate, this is just an observation, but it seems to me that the more people in this country, whether thay be British or from overseas, the more pressure on public services is the obvious result.

I had 5 operations last year and the wards are full of overseas patients,the NHS is on it knees

That's a bit rich slagging off immigrants for putting on the NHS when you had no less than five operations yourself don't you think?

If you spent so much time in hospital perhaps you would also have seen the majority of doctors are not locals

what a truly ignorant statement!!!

In today's paper about Kitchener school in Canton:

The number of languages spoken at Kitchener Primary School is 27 with English spoken as an additional language by 86% of pupils.

Data is in

2.9% of people who live in Wales were born in the EU!

However, close to 20% of citizens in Wales, come from England.

So who is it coming over here taking our Welsh jobs? Is it retired Italians clogging up our hospitals? Wealthly Dutch buying second homes and driving up house prices for the locals

hmmm...

Still British and would have paid into OUR tax system!!

Exactly,i really don't get the love in for the Eu

Nor do I Wez, they don't help the UK at all, just take take and try to decide our futures.

As I see it ,the Eu 8s very restrictive for Wales and Britain to grow ?

Data is in

2.9% of people who live in Wales were born in the EU!

However, close to 20% of citizens in Wales, come from England.

So who is it coming over here taking our Welsh jobs? Is it retired Italians clogging up our hospitals? Wealthly Dutch buying second homes and driving up house prices for the locals

hmmm...

All those 2.9% must have been in my local casualty dept., last time I was there. I speak English only, and there were 5 other people speaking English. Around 17 of us there in total, the rest were speaking a variety of languages, but no Welsh. I said to my wife that I never expected to find myself in a minority in S Wales, although I accept that this may have been an exception and on another day would probably be the opposite. I have no real opinion on this debate, this is just an observation, but it seems to me that the more people in this country, whether thay be British or from overseas, the more pressure on public services is the obvious result.

I had 5 operations last year and the wards are full of overseas patients,the NHS is on it knees

That's a bit rich slagging off immigrants for putting on the NHS when you had no less than five operations yourself don't you think?

If you spent so much time in hospital perhaps you would also have seen the majority of doctors are not locals

5 kidney operations I had 3 of them were coz they messed the first two up and the surgeon who messed up was an Indian doctor ,also as a British tax payer it's my right to have health care I've paid for that right over my whole life !

Leave it there Wezi youve always worked in cash businesses

Data is in

2.9% of people who live in Wales were born in the EU!

However, close to 20% of citizens in Wales, come from England.

So who is it coming over here taking our Welsh jobs? Is it retired Italians clogging up our hospitals? Wealthly Dutch buying second homes and driving up house prices for the locals

hmmm...

Still British and would have paid into OUR tax system!!

Exactly,i really don't get the love in for the Eu

Nor do I Wez, they don't help the UK at all, just take take and try to decide our futures.

Says the guy who lives in Spain for part of the year, how much national insurance have you paid into the Spanish tax system? I'm guessing you and your family would expect to be seen in hospital if you were ill. You can probably afford private health care, but most of the British expats couldn't afford shit if they were ill.

And regarding the influx of immigrants in Wales. The English are usually retired, pay no income tax and are a drain on our NHS. EU citizens are usually young, pay income tax and use the NHS less. Our tax system and health system, needs more people paying in tax that costing us.

Data is in

2.9% of people who live in Wales were born in the EU!

However, close to 20% of citizens in Wales, come from England.

So who is it coming over here taking our Welsh jobs? Is it retired Italians clogging up our hospitals? Wealthly Dutch buying second homes and driving up house prices for the locals

hmmm...

Still British and would have paid into OUR tax system!!

Exactly,i really don't get the love in for the Eu

Nor do I Wez, they don't help the UK at all, just take take and try to decide our futures.

Says the guy who lives in Spain for part of the year, how much national insurance have you paid into the Spanish tax system? I'm guessing you and your family would expect to be seen in hospital if you were ill. You can probably afford private health care, but most of the British expats couldn't afford shit if they were ill.

And regarding the influx of immigrants in Wales. The English are usually retired, pay no income tax and are a drain on our NHS. EU citizens are usually young, pay income tax and use the NHS less. Our tax system and health system, needs more people paying in tax that costing us.

To be fair though, if they are retired they most likely pumped a fair bit of money into the system during in many cases 40 years of employment and the subsequent taxes, nat ins. contributions etc. during that time.

By and large the EU immigrants who have come to Merthyr have got work and work bloody hard. Especially in thew factories where "our own" dont want the work.

Yes you get some who have come and play the system, spending their time in Ladbrokes all day but as far as I can see they are not a true reflection and are the small minority.

There are 3 or 4 Portugese restaurants / cafes / pubs opened and some of these people have made a real go of it and integrated into the town in the same way the Italians did many years ago.

I walked passed a Portugese lad on my way out to watch the Wales v Portugal semi final last year. He had his Portugal top on so I jokingly "Booooed" him. He laughed and said "Win-Win for me one of my countries will be in the final". A very refreshing attitude.

I am a Welsh speaker who wants self-determination for Cymru, however all this anti-English racism isn't helpful. I know many English people who have learnt or are learning Welsh.....some even call themselves Welsh now.
Let's welcome them as long as they don't denigrate our culture.
The problem has nothing to do with immigration and everything to do with creating work and providing good, cheap housing.

I am a Welsh speaker who wants self-determination for Cymru, however all this anti-English racism isn't helpful. I know many English people who have learnt or are learning Welsh.....some even call themselves Welsh now.
Let's welcome them as long as they don't denigrate our culture.
The problem has nothing to do with immigration and everything to do with creating work and providing good, cheap housing.

I've been here 40years, paying taxes, my kids are Welsh but they don't speak Welsh, are they less Welsh than you?

I am a Welsh speaker who wants self-determination for Cymru, however all this anti-English racism isn't helpful. I know many English people who have learnt or are learning Welsh.....some even call themselves Welsh now.
Let's welcome them as long as they don't denigrate our culture.
The problem has nothing to do with immigration and everything to do with creating work and providing good, cheap housing.

I've been here 40years, paying taxes, my kids are Welsh but they don't speak Welsh, are they less Welsh than you?

We are all British and not European ffs in most centuries we have been fighting against the Europeans they hate us

I am a Welsh speaker who wants self-determination for Cymru, however all this anti-English racism isn't helpful. I know many English people who have learnt or are learning Welsh.....some even call themselves Welsh now.
Let's welcome them as long as they don't denigrate our culture.
The problem has nothing to do with immigration and everything to do with creating work and providing good, cheap housing.

I've been here 40years, paying taxes, my kids are Welsh but they don't speak Welsh, are they less Welsh than you?

Where the f**k did he say anything about someone being more Welsh than someone else because they speak Welsh?!

I am a Welsh speaker who wants self-determination for Cymru, however all this anti-English racism isn't helpful. I know many English people who have learnt or are learning Welsh.....some even call themselves Welsh now.
Let's welcome them as long as they don't denigrate our culture.
The problem has nothing to do with immigration and everything to do with creating work and providing good, cheap housing.

I've been here 40years, paying taxes, my kids are Welsh but they don't speak Welsh, are they less Welsh than you?

We are all British and not European ffs in most centuries we have been fighting against the Europeans they hate us

They don't 'hate' us, what are you on about?

Data is in

2.9% of people who live in Wales were born in the EU!

However, close to 20% of citizens in Wales, come from England.

So who is it coming over here taking our Welsh jobs? Is it retired Italians clogging up our hospitals? Wealthly Dutch buying second homes and driving up house prices for the locals

hmmm...

Still British and would have paid into OUR tax system!!

Exactly,i really don't get the love in for the Eu

Nor do I Wez, they don't help the UK at all, just take take and try to decide our futures.

As I see it ,the Eu 8s very restrictive for Wales and Britain to grow ?

How so? Without the single market, Wales' economy is fucked.

Data is in

2.9% of people who live in Wales were born in the EU!

However, close to 20% of citizens in Wales, come from England.

So who is it coming over here taking our Welsh jobs? Is it retired Italians clogging up our hospitals? Wealthly Dutch buying second homes and driving up house prices for the locals

hmmm...

Still British and would have paid into OUR tax system!!

Exactly,i really don't get the love in for the Eu

Nor do I Wez, they don't help the UK at all, just take take and try to decide our futures.

Which is bullshit, of course.

Data is in

2.9% of people who live in Wales were born in the EU!

However, close to 20% of citizens in Wales, come from England.

So who is it coming over here taking our Welsh jobs? Is it retired Italians clogging up our hospitals? Wealthly Dutch buying second homes and driving up house prices for the locals

hmmm...

All those 2.9% must have been in my local casualty dept., last time I was there. I speak English only, and there were 5 other people speaking English. Around 17 of us there in total, the rest were speaking a variety of languages, but no Welsh. I said to my wife that I never expected to find myself in a minority in S Wales, although I accept that this may have been an exception and on another day would probably be the opposite. I have no real opinion on this debate, this is just an observation, but it seems to me that the more people in this country, whether thay be British or from overseas, the more pressure on public services is the obvious result.

I had 5 operations last year and the wards are full of overseas patients,the NHS is on it knees

That's a bit rich slagging off immigrants for putting on the NHS when you had no less than five operations yourself don't you think?

If you spent so much time in hospital perhaps you would also have seen the majority of doctors are not locals

5 kidney operations I had 3 of them were coz they messed the first two up and the surgeon who messed up was an Indian doctor ,also as a British tax payer it's my right to have health care I've paid for that right over my whole life !

So you're making sweeping generalisations now, are you?

Data is in

2.9% of people who live in Wales were born in the EU!

However, close to 20% of citizens in Wales, come from England.

So who is it coming over here taking our Welsh jobs? Is it retired Italians clogging up our hospitals? Wealthly Dutch buying second homes and driving up house prices for the locals

hmmm...

All those 2.9% must have been in my local casualty dept., last time I was there. I speak English only, and there were 5 other people speaking English. Around 17 of us there in total, the rest were speaking a variety of languages, but no Welsh. I said to my wife that I never expected to find myself in a minority in S Wales, although I accept that this may have been an exception and on another day would probably be the opposite. I have no real opinion on this debate, this is just an observation, but it seems to me that the more people in this country, whether thay be British or from overseas, the more pressure on public services is the obvious result.

But you're not in a minority, are you? Hyperbolic nonsense.

As for A&E departments, there are people who end up in A&E who shouldn't be there in the first place or who don't need to be in there.

Probably more Welsh people living in England.

But that's not what the OP said, is it?

I am a Welsh speaker who wants self-determination for Cymru, however all this anti-English racism isn't helpful. I know many English people who have learnt or are learning Welsh.....some even call themselves Welsh now.
Let's welcome them as long as they don't denigrate our culture.
The problem has nothing to do with immigration and everything to do with creating work and providing good, cheap housing.

I've been here 40years, paying taxes, my kids are Welsh but they don't speak Welsh, are they less Welsh than you?

I can't see any part of where he suggested that.