Cardiff where are you....

Cardiff where are you....

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It's often said the valleys are the heart and soul of Cardiff city and without them the fan base would be nothing, not from the valleys myself but totally agree with this.

I couldn't but notice again at villa, buses from llantrisant, Barry, Bridgend, abercynon, Rhondda valleys.

You know the score, the usual surrounding villages, I know east Cardiff had a bus and am sure other areas of Cardiff had some buses but with the population of Cardiff as a city the diffians are small in numbers, this is not a dig at those who come more an observation.

I know from season tickets at the club that the stronghold areas llantrisant, Rhondda and the surrounding areas make up a huge amount. So why is this the case? And has it always been like this?



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Cardiff where are you....

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It's often said the valleys are the heart and soul of Cardiff city and without them the fan base would be nothing, not from the valleys myself but totally agree with this.

I couldn't but notice again at villa, buses from llantrisant, Barry, Bridgend, abercynon, Rhondda valleys.

You know the score, the usual surrounding villages, I know east Cardiff had a bus and am sure other areas of Cardiff had some buses but with the population of Cardiff as a city the diffians are small in numbers, this is not a dig at those who come more an observation.

I know from season tickets at the club that the stronghold areas llantrisant, Rhondda and the surrounding areas make up a huge amount. So why is this the case? And has it always been like this?

Gareth, there is population of about 400,000 people in Cardiff and one million with in 30 miles.
You've just partly stated what Ive always said,with the size of our City and surrounding areas we should be getting minimum 20,000 home gates and taking away 2,000 fans.

We have no competition from other football clubs or rugby nowadays, so why why is our support so poor?


But your also right,just from Cardiff its self we should be getting bigger support.


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Full bus from Caerphilly and 2 from Bargoed at Villa.
I'm told there was also 2 from Cynon Valley as well.

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Cardiff where are you....

It's often said the valleys are the heart and soul of Cardiff city and without them the fan base would be nothing, not from the valleys myself but totally agree with this.

I couldn't but notice again at villa, buses from llantrisant, Barry, Bridgend, abercynon, Rhondda valleys.

You know the score, the usual surrounding villages, I know east Cardiff had a bus and am sure other areas of Cardiff had some buses but with the population of Cardiff as a city the diffians are small in numbers, this is not a dig at those who come more an observation.

I know from season tickets at the club that the stronghold areas llantrisant, Rhondda and the surrounding areas make up a huge amount. So why is this the case? And has it always been like this?

Gareth, there is population of about 400,000 people in Cardiff and one million with in 30 miles.
You've just partly stated what Ive always said,with the size of our City and surrounding areas we should be getting minimum 20,000 home gates and taking away 2,000 fans.

We have no competition from other football clubs or rugby nowadays, so why why is our support so poor?


But your also right,just from Cardiff its self we should be getting bigger support.

Simple, generations brought up on Liverpool Utd etc while we were garbage, that's handed down and so it continues. I was one of two in my form in school with a city scarf. It's obviously improved tenfold so heading in right direction. That's the hard truth, need years of being at the top.

Full bus from Caerphilly and 2 from Bargoed at Villa.
I'm told there was also 2 from Cynon Valley as well.

Yep exactly my point, Caerphilly always been a stronghold as has bargoed.

Cardiff where are you....

It's often said the valleys are the heart and soul of Cardiff city and without them the fan base would be nothing, not from the valleys myself but totally agree with this.

I couldn't but notice again at villa, buses from llantrisant, Barry, Bridgend, abercynon, Rhondda valleys.

You know the score, the usual surrounding villages, I know east Cardiff had a bus and am sure other areas of Cardiff had some buses but with the population of Cardiff as a city the diffians are small in numbers, this is not a dig at those who come more an observation.

I know from season tickets at the club that the stronghold areas llantrisant, Rhondda and the surrounding areas make up a huge amount. So why is this the case? And has it always been like this?

Gareth, there is population of about 400,000 people in Cardiff and one million with in 30 miles.
You've just partly stated what Ive always said,with the size of our City and surrounding areas we should be getting minimum 20,000 home gates and taking away 2,000 fans.

We have no competition from other football clubs or rugby nowadays, so why why is our support so poor?


But your also right,just from Cardiff its self we should be getting bigger support.

Simple, generations brought up on Liverpool Utd etc while we were garbage, that's handed down and so it continues. I was one of two in my form in school with a city scarf. It's obviously improved tenfold so heading in right direction. That's the hard truth, need years of being at the top.

Gareth, in my school in the 70's I was the only kid following Cardiff in the whole year,the rest were Leeds,Liverpool and that shitty egg.

Full bus from Caerphilly and 2 from Bargoed at Villa.
I'm told there was also 2 from Cynon Valley as well.

Yep exactly my point, Caerphilly always been a stronghold as has bargoed.

Another shout for Caerphilly here, God's own country and died in the wool Bloooooobirds

A lot of fans are discouraged from going to not only home games but away games too. But it's not by the performances on the pitch or the way the club is run, I would say it's mainly down to the attitudes of "superfans" who go every week. I've seen on this forum many times this season alone, the slagging off of fans who go to a game here or there, or the cheap games. If someone pays money to go to watch City, whether it's £5 a ticket or £30 a ticket, they deserve to be treated as a fan who goes every week. "Glory hunter" term will be thrown about if we climb the league and attendances grow. Why? They have every right to be able to watch City.

Not sure where i qualify for

Born Llanrumney, brought up Llanedeyrn now living in Llantrisant

A lot of fans are discouraged from going to not only home games but away games too. But it's not by the performances on the pitch or the way the club is run, I would say it's mainly down to the attitudes of "superfans" who go every week. I've seen on this forum many times this season alone, the slagging off of fans who go to a game here or there, or the cheap games. If someone pays money to go to watch City, whether it's £5 a ticket or £30 a ticket, they deserve to be treated as a fan who goes every week. "Glory hunter" term will be thrown about if we climb the league and attendances grow. Why? They have every right to be able to watch City.

I would say those that goes to games now be it home or away are superfans. I've got heard any slagging of fan in any of the games I have been to.

A lot of fans are discouraged from going to not only home games but away games too. But it's not by the performances on the pitch or the way the club is run, I would say it's mainly down to the attitudes of "superfans" who go every week. I've seen on this forum many times this season alone, the slagging off of fans who go to a game here or there, or the cheap games. If someone pays money to go to watch City, whether it's £5 a ticket or £30 a ticket, they deserve to be treated as a fan who goes every week. "Glory hunter" term will be thrown about if we climb the league and attendances grow. Why? They have every right to be able to watch City.

You don't make much f*cking sense mate,you say fans don't go because they are called glory hunters?
I've stopped going to a lot of home games,stewards,hitlers,no atmosphere,feels pathetic down there,got my season ticket though,been going away more,but your right mate if a fan pays a £5 he is fan,but if he only turns up when prem clubs come,then he is a f*cking glory hunter,but he don't care that we call him that as he don't read these forums,he follows prem clubs

From Facebook

Kevin Roper:
Being forced away by the heavy handed tactics of Mr Nash .

That's nonsense -i'm sure 99% of supporters never have any trouble with Nash and or the stewards

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Dave Briscoe ‏@tobytyke69
@AnnisAbraham @Binksterb @TonyRivers1927 Standard of football rises & falls. Only thing I dislike is the gestapo style stewarding at the CCS

Would like to know what it is people so dislike about the way our stewards act. Have attended hundreds of games and have never really had to have any dealing with the stewards - they currently have (to me) this stupid policy of making people unzip coats but hey ho it's hardly a problem to comply with that.
Only stewards i have actually found to be constantly obnoxious are those at Crystal Palace but once again simply steer clear of them and don't give any reason for confrontation and no problems - it's not difficult

I remember getting the football special trains on the Rhymney Valley line down to Ninian Park in the late 60's and 70's - now it's a road journey from Taunton - which is a lot more hassle - but still cant live without it!

A lot of fans are discouraged from going to not only home games but away games too. But it's not by the performances on the pitch or the way the club is run, I would say it's mainly down to the attitudes of "superfans" who go every week. I've seen on this forum many times this season alone, the slagging off of fans who go to a game here or there, or the cheap games. If someone pays money to go to watch City, whether it's £5 a ticket or £30 a ticket, they deserve to be treated as a fan who goes every week. "Glory hunter" term will be thrown about if we climb the league and attendances grow. Why? They have every right to be able to watch City.

You don't make much f*cking sense mate,you say fans don't go because they are called glory hunters?
I've stopped going to a lot of home games,stewards,hitlers,no atmosphere,feels pathetic down there,got my season ticket though,been going away more,but your right mate if a fan pays a £5 he is fan,but if he only turns up when prem clubs come,then he is a f*cking glory hunter,but he don't care that we call him that as he don't read these forums,he follows prem clubs

You started a thread the other day stating that Fulham home will be a test for our fans turning up for the cup game. You've slated fans for not turning up for home games in the past, Now you admit you don't bother going to most home games yourself!

You couldn't make it up aye.

A lot of fans are discouraged from going to not only home games but away games too. But it's not by the performances on the pitch or the way the club is run, I would say it's mainly down to the attitudes of "superfans" who go every week. I've seen on this forum many times this season alone, the slagging off of fans who go to a game here or there, or the cheap games. If someone pays money to go to watch City, whether it's £5 a ticket or £30 a ticket, they deserve to be treated as a fan who goes every week. "Glory hunter" term will be thrown about if we climb the league and attendances grow. Why? They have every right to be able to watch City.

You don't make much f*cking sense mate,you say fans don't go because they are called glory hunters?
I've stopped going to a lot of home games,stewards,hitlers,no atmosphere,feels pathetic down there,got my season ticket though,been going away more,but your right mate if a fan pays a £5 he is fan,but if he only turns up when prem clubs come,then he is a f*cking glory hunter,but he don't care that we call him that as he don't read these forums,he follows prem clubs

You started a thread the other day stating that Fulham home will be a test for our fans turning up for the cup game. You've slated fans for not turning up for home games in the past, Now you admit you don't bother going to most home games yourself!

You couldn't make it up aye.

Mate the way i feel at moment down there,I aint enjoying the atmosphere,yet i still got a season ticket.

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Liam Kelly

Shouldnt turn this into an us and them situation! the club has done work to liase with the valleys on and off the pitch but its immediate surrounding area that has suffered!! regan poole is the most recent example of a long long long long list ! engage from the core and branch out! ps dont shoot me down im from cardiff dont go and wot go till tan leaves but please think and understand why!

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Dave Newman

That's not to forget our friends from north wales that travel all the way down to Cardiff to see the game. There's also small towns that don't get mentioned like Cwmbran where I'm from im a season ticket holder and I have been to every home game this season that's loyalty it's not all about the valleys

From Barry and would say it has quite a large following for city, know a number of season ticket holders aswell , tend to have a full bus for around 5/6 games a season , for villa we could of filled 2 buses had around 60 .

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Dave Newman

That's not to forget our friends from north wales that travel all the way down to Cardiff to see the game. There's also small towns that don't get mentioned like Cwmbran where I'm from im a season ticket holder and I have been to every home game this season that's loyalty it's not all about the valleys

Annis like yourself, school days were full of the Leeds I think they were the Manure/Pool of today back then so this 'Glory-Hunter' tag has been around a while.
Really don't understand Dave's post though ? "every home game this season that's loyalty" Want you want mate a f*cking medal?

From Facebook

Liam Kelly

Shouldnt turn this into an us and them situation! the club has done work to liase with the valleys on and off the pitch but its immediate surrounding area that has suffered!! regan poole is the most recent example of a long long long long list ! engage from the core and branch out! ps dont shoot me down im from cardiff dont go and wot go till tan leaves but please think and understand why!

Agree with him about not turning it into an us and them thing but Im not sure what this work the Club has done to liase with the Valleys is?

The Club has been almost non existent in Schools and social events where I live for years which is a Cardiff City stronghold.

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Dave Newman

That's not to forget our friends from north wales that travel all the way down to Cardiff to see the game. There's also small towns that don't get mentioned like Cwmbran where I'm from im a season ticket holder and I have been to every home game this season that's loyalty it's not all about the valleys

Annis like yourself, school days were full of the Leeds I think they were the Manure/Pool of today back then so this 'Glory-Hunter' tag has been around a while.
Really don't understand Dave's post though ? "every home game this season that's loyalty" Want you want mate a f*cking medal?

Jules,there should be NO divide about where you come from, as long as you Support Cardiff City,other than the other clubs etc,We should All be united as one

From Facebook

Liam Kelly

Shouldnt turn this into an us and them situation! the club has done work to liase with the valleys on and off the pitch but its immediate surrounding area that has suffered!! regan poole is the most recent example of a long long long long list ! engage from the core and branch out! ps dont shoot me down im from cardiff dont go and wot go till tan leaves but please think and understand why!

Agree with him about not turning it into an us and them thing but Im not sure what this work the Club has done to liase with the Valleys is?

The Club has been almost non existent in Schools and social events where I live for years which is a Cardiff City stronghold.

The club have done Nothing to help.

Allow for white flight as they call it as people move out of Cardiff. Myself and 2 mates are as cardiffian as you can get (canton llanrumney) but moved out to the vale we were on a Barry bus for villa along with another ten or so I knew from cardiff.

Still doesn't give any insight into why my hometown contributes significantly less support per head than some other places ( who have to travel a lot further ).
I've no idea - this bit about liking Liverpool/Forest/ whoever was doing well growing up applies to everyone in the Valleys too so I don't accept that this is the reason.

My point was cardiffians not to start a debate about Nash or the other million reasons as its been done to death, everybody has different reasons but they always disappear if success on the pitch. My point was, the capital city don't back the club as well as the surrounding villages and valleys and Cwmbran as mentioned not forgetting Caerphilly. Surely these huge villages within the capital, Ely, canton and grange town, st mellons, llanrhymney, llanedyrn, radyr, I can go on and on.

My point was cardiffians not to start a debate about Nash or the other million reasons as its been done to death, everybody has different reasons but they always disappear if success on the pitch. My point was, the capital city don't back the club as well as the surrounding villages and valleys and Cwmbran as mentioned not forgetting Caerphilly. Surely these huge villages within the capital, Ely, canton and grange town, st mellons, llanrhymney, llanedyrn, radyr, I can go on and on.

Correct Gareth,with the size of Cardiff alone,City should be having big crowds.

Thats why I have the odd moan about our support getting less and less,with just local Cardiff people the crowds should be large,we have no competition.

Ipswich away tomorrow City will take barely 200 away fans,last season we had the lowest Championship away support at Ipswich on a Saturday,small places like Bolton bottom of the League took more than us.
They don't have surrounding areas like we do.