Sacking Trollope won't change a thing

The club is rotten to the core thanks to the Malaysian. He has ripped the heart out of the club with his pathetic rebrand. I've been going for 35 years and been in exile since 89 and I've never felt so low about my club.

The only way things will change is if the boardroom changes. Sadly I can't see any billionaires on the horizon with money to burn.

Tan has bugger all to do with how we are performing on the pitch. Purely Trollope and his coaching staff and players to blame.

Tan can go with him.

Correct about sacking Trollope it won't change a thing.

Bitching about Tan is even more pointless

But we when we played in Red?!?!

I was 100% against the rebrand but it's excuses all the time, back to blue and we'll fill the stadium out, it's all bullshit. What's happened on the pitch is what's stopped the fans coming, nothing else. If we started winning and towards the top then the crowds will come back again, simple.

Tan has bugger all to do with how we are performing on the pitch. Purely Trollope and his coaching staff and players to blame.

I believe that totally, and the players are as much to blame as if they can not pass, defend and everything else,then they need to look at themselves and ask do they want it ?

Tan has bugger all to do with how we are performing on the pitch. Purely Trollope and his coaching staff and players to blame.

I believe that totally, and the players are as much to blame as if they can not pass, defend and everything else,then they need to look at themselves and ask do they want it ?

We actually defended pretty well and so did Leeds, Leeds tool their chances and we didn't

The painful truth is our squad is not good enough. I would'nt back this team to get promoted from League 1, never mind the Championship. A new manager might improve things a bit, but our football club needs a lot more than just a new manager.

Can't bring Tan into this, who whose is going to fund the club.
The current managerial team and players have to look at themselves,

I have to say this looked like the latter days of OGS.

For 60 mins we were doing OK but some of his tactical decisions/non-decisions were unbelievable:

1. Pick Ralls who has been simply awful all season
2. Bring on Harris let him cause damage down the left wing with a couple of runs and then switch him to fullback !!
3. Don't make any further subs until we've let in a second despite it looking obvious that we needed fresh legs to change the momentum.
4. Leave Noone on despite him looking knackered from 55mins onwards.

We could have easily won today with decent tactics but Trollope simply isn't up to it. Anyone who thinks it's down to anyone else is kidding themselves!!

I have to say this looked like the latter days of OGS.

For 60 mins we were doing OK but some of his tactical decisions/non-decisions were unbelievable:

1. Pick Ralls who has been simply awful all season
2. Bring on Harris let him cause damage down the left wing with a couple of runs and then switch him to fullback !!
3. Don't make any further subs until we've let in a second despite it looking obvious that we needed fresh legs to change the momentum.
4. Leave Noone on despite him looking knackered from 55mins onwards.

We could have easily won today with decent tactics but Trollope simply isn't up to it. Anyone who thinks it's down to anyone else is kidding themselves!!

Good post, just playing nooney doc it for me, finished years ago he offers nothing other than gifting opposition the Ball. Harris was a threat straight away.

Tan has bugger all to do with how we are performing on the pitch. Purely Trollope and his coaching staff and players to blame.

I believe that totally, and the players are as much to blame as if they can not pass, defend and everything else,then they need to look at themselves and ask do they want it ?

They f*cking employed this joker. The board are to blame for everything, they overspent in the first place meaning we 'cant afford' a decent manager and have to sell our best players.

I have to say this looked like the latter days of OGS.

For 60 mins we were doing OK but some of his tactical decisions/non-decisions were unbelievable:

1. Pick Ralls who has been simply awful all season
2. Bring on Harris let him cause damage down the left wing with a couple of runs and then switch him to fullback !!
3. Don't make any further subs until we've let in a second despite it looking obvious that we needed fresh legs to change the momentum.
4. Leave Noone on despite him looking knackered from 55mins onwards.

We could have easily won today with decent tactics but Trollope simply isn't up to it. Anyone who thinks it's down to anyone else is kidding themselves!!

Good post, just playing nooney doc it for me, finished years ago he offers nothing other than gifting opposition the Ball. Harris was a threat straight away.

We are not virtually bottom of the league after 8 games just because of one person. I am no fan of Trollope, and would'nt have appointed someone who was sacked by Bristol Rovers in a million years. We have had one win in eight games courtesy of two own goals. The manager has'nt helped, but the players have to take some responsibility as well. The fact is, we do not have a particularly good squad. We are in a far tougher league this season with a much weaker squad. If any manager could get this team to finish between 12th & 15th, they will have done well.

Foo man Tan won't care one bit, the club are just a minor irritation to him. If he sacks Trollope, guess what, Lennie gets the gig

Sacking Trollope might change everything. We don't know until this useless boardroom pull their fingers out. I applaud Tan for showing a bit of loyalty by giving Trollope a go but how much longer can the club sustain this downward trend. A new manager might get us winning again, hell, we have nothing to lose. Second priority is getting a leader on the pitch with a big gob.

The club is rotten to the core thanks to the Malaysian. He has ripped the heart out of the club with his pathetic rebrand. I've been going for 35 years and been in exile since 89 and I've never felt so low about my club.

The only way things will change is if the boardroom changes. Sadly I can't see any billionaires on the horizon with money to burn.

Gareth you are normally a voice of reason but this easily fits into one of the worst posts you have ever made.

Bitching about Tan is 3 years out of date and will do nothing to drag this club up by it's boot strings. Those of us who are left have to roll up our sleeves and stand by this great club.

I have to say this looked like the latter days of OGS.

For 60 mins we were doing OK but some of his tactical decisions/non-decisions were unbelievable:

1. Pick Ralls who has been simply awful all season
2. Bring on Harris let him cause damage down the left wing with a couple of runs and then switch him to fullback !!
3. Don't make any further subs until we've let in a second despite it looking obvious that we needed fresh legs to change the momentum.
4. Leave Noone on despite him looking knackered from 55mins onwards.

We could have easily won today with decent tactics but Trollope simply isn't up to it. Anyone who thinks it's down to anyone else is kidding themselves!!

Spot on with this post

Correct about sacking Trollope it won't change a thing.

Bitching about Tan is even more pointless

You're right.

Let's keep Trollope and continue losing every week.

And let's give Vinny a big pat on the back.

But we when we played in Red?!?!

I was 100% against the rebrand but it's excuses all the time, back to blue and we'll fill the stadium out, it's all bullshit. What's happened on the pitch is what's stopped the fans coming, nothing else. If we started winning and towards the top then the crowds will come back again, simple.

Ever since the re brand the fans have lost the heart the belief, if we loose it doesn't hurt anymore. You can be shit and keep your passion about your Club aka Leeds. Or even us many years ago. You change the complete fabric of the club then you destroy th soul and this is why we are seeing such poor support now. Most just doesn't care. The first step to getting it all back was the return to blue and our bluebird. But that ain't gonna be enough for many until Tan goes from our club forever.

The club is rotten to the core thanks to the Malaysian. He has ripped the heart out of the club with his pathetic rebrand. I've been going for 35 years and been in exile since 89 and I've never felt so low about my club.

The only way things will change is if the boardroom changes. Sadly I can't see any billionaires on the horizon with money to burn.

Gareth you are normally a voice of reason but this easily fits into one of the worst posts you have ever made.

Bitching about Tan is 3 years out of date and will do nothing to drag this club up by it's boot strings. Those of us who are left have to roll up our sleeves and stand by this great club.

Unfortunately Tony I feel he's speaking from the heart.

Totally don't understand the logic here, how does the board effect the performances on the pitch?

Am I missing something?

But we when we played in Red?!?!

I was 100% against the rebrand but it's excuses all the time, back to blue and we'll fill the stadium out, it's all bullshit. What's happened on the pitch is what's stopped the fans coming, nothing else. If we started winning and towards the top then the crowds will come back again, simple.

Ever since the re brand the fans have lost the heart the belief, if we loose it doesn't hurt anymore. You can be shit and keep your passion about your Club aka Leeds. Or even us many years ago. You change the complete fabric of the club then you destroy th soul and this is why we are seeing such poor support now. Most just doesn't care. The first step to getting it all back was the return to blue and our bluebird. But that ain't gonna be enough for many until Tan goes from our club forever.

I see where your coming from but ultimately success on the pitch brings in the fans, we played in red in the promotion year and on the Prem and the passion was there to see. Am afraid some use the rebrand/slade/tan as an excuse. " I will come back when slade is gone" " I will come back when we are blue " all bullshit. They will come back when we win like they did the promotion year and the premiership. Sad but true.

Trollope hasn't the balls to turn this around. Simple as that.

Trollope hasn't the balls to turn this around. Simple as that.

Or the ability unfortunately.

The club is rotten to the core thanks to the Malaysian. He has ripped the heart out of the club with his pathetic rebrand. I've been going for 35 years and been in exile since 89 and I've never felt so low about my club.

The only way things will change is if the boardroom changes. Sadly I can't see any billionaires on the horizon with money to burn.

Gareth you are normally a voice of reason but this easily fits into one of the worst posts you have ever made.

Bitching about Tan is 3 years out of date and will do nothing to drag this club up by it's boot strings. Those of us who are left have to roll up our sleeves and stand by this great club.

All about opinions Tony. I may be wrong in what I'm saying but in any business/industry the direction comes from the top. CCFC is poorly led from the idiot owner who is a very successful businessman. Sadly being a good businessman does not make you a good football club owner.

CCFC needs big changes. Fans or customers are not buying in to the vision. Prices are wrong. Season tickets were 50 quid too expensive. Look at Huds and Bradford. Both selling ST at 199 and getting 18-20,000 every week. The product on display is not attracting walk up fans. That is down to recruitment over summer. Not 1 new signing has any pace. There are few locals in squad and its difficult to identify with the players.

Trollope may not be the right man but the job is a poison chalice. Who else would work for a lunatic that has no understanding of the business he owns?

I sincerely hope that Trollope sorts it out. I believe he is a good coach. Bringing in Lennie was a backward step. I'd rather see Bellers as assistant. There's no one on the coaching staff who is nasty enough. Far too soft.

The club is rotten to the core thanks to the Malaysian. He has ripped the heart out of the club with his pathetic rebrand. I've been going for 35 years and been in exile since 89 and I've never felt so low about my club.

The only way things will change is if the boardroom changes. Sadly I can't see any billionaires on the horizon with money to burn.

Gareth you are normally a voice of reason but this easily fits into one of the worst posts you have ever made.

Bitching about Tan is 3 years out of date and will do nothing to drag this club up by it's boot strings. Those of us who are left have to roll up our sleeves and stand by this great club.

All about opinions Tony. I may be wrong in what I'm saying but in any business/industry the direction comes from the top. CCFC is poorly led from the idiot owner who is a very successful businessman. Sadly being a good businessman does not make you a good football club owner.

CCFC needs big changes. Fans or customers are not buying in to the vision. Prices are wrong. Season tickets were 50 quid too expensive. Look at Huds and Bradford. Both selling ST at 199 and getting 18-20,000 every week. The product on display is not attracting walk up fans. That is down to recruitment over summer. Not 1 new signing has any pace. There are few locals in squad and its difficult to identify with the players.

Trollope may not be the right man but the job is a poison chalice. Who else would work for a lunatic that has no understanding of the business he owns?

I sincerely hope that Trollope sorts it out. I believe he is a good coach. Bringing in Lennie was a backward step. I'd rather see Bellers as assistant. There's no one on the coaching staff who is nasty enough. Far too soft.

Good post, and I agree about Lennie.

Things are not working,,,,how long before changes are forced to be made?

But we when we played in Red?!?!

I was 100% against the rebrand but it's excuses all the time, back to blue and we'll fill the stadium out, it's all bullshit. What's happened on the pitch is what's stopped the fans coming, nothing else. If we started winning and towards the top then the crowds will come back again, simple.

Ever since the re brand the fans have lost the heart the belief, if we loose it doesn't hurt anymore. You can be shit and keep your passion about your Club aka Leeds. Or even us many years ago. You change the complete fabric of the club then you destroy th soul and this is why we are seeing such poor support now. Most just doesn't care. The first step to getting it all back was the return to blue and our bluebird. But that ain't gonna be enough for many until Tan goes from our club forever.

I see where your coming from but ultimately success on the pitch brings in the fans, we played in red in the promotion year and on the Prem and the passion was there to see. Am afraid some use the rebrand/slade/tan as an excuse. " I will come back when slade is gone" " I will come back when we are blue " all bullshit. They will come back when we win like they did the promotion year and the premiership. Sad but true.

There are those that will not come back till Tan has gone even if we get back to the Prem and I respect that. There will be the plastics that will come back if we go up, and I hate those types. But there is plenty that still go like myself that struggle with the passion. If we win great and if we loose it just doesn't hurt. The day Tan leaves will help me that's for sure but it concerns me it will never come back. I'm like that old married man staying in a relationship because it's all I know. Sad but true Chief.

The club is rotten to the core thanks to the Malaysian. He has ripped the heart out of the club with his pathetic rebrand. I've been going for 35 years and been in exile since 89 and I've never felt so low about my club.

The only way things will change is if the boardroom changes. Sadly I can't see any billionaires on the horizon with money to burn.

Agree .

The club is rotten to the core thanks to the Malaysian. He has ripped the heart out of the club with his pathetic rebrand. I've been going for 35 years and been in exile since 89 and I've never felt so low about my club.

The only way things will change is if the boardroom changes. Sadly I can't see any billionaires on the horizon with money to burn.

Agree .

Tony/Gareth

Sadly, that is the truth of the matter

The club is rotten to the core thanks to the Malaysian. He has ripped the heart out of the club with his pathetic rebrand. I've been going for 35 years and been in exile since 89 and I've never felt so low about my club.

The only way things will change is if the boardroom changes. Sadly I can't see any billionaires on the horizon with money to burn.

Gareth you are normally a voice of reason but this easily fits into one of the worst posts you have ever made.

Bitching about Tan is 3 years out of date and will do nothing to drag this club up by it's boot strings. Those of us who are left have to roll up our sleeves and stand by this great club.

Great post Gareth. Terribly naive and condescending post Tony.