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Will Tan go down in our History as ...

Mon Aug 29, 2016 4:21 pm

Our worst ever owner, given what he has financialy at his disposal :bluebird:

Re: Will Tan go down in our History as ...

Mon Aug 29, 2016 4:56 pm

Blueboys1927 wrote:Our worst ever owner, given what he has financialy at his disposal :bluebird:

He's put 150 million into us ffs also we got promoted under him arguably the most successful owner ever

Re: Will Tan go down in our History as ...

Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:00 pm

Blueboys1927 wrote:Our worst ever owner, given what he has financialy at his disposal :bluebird:


Given that he very probably saved this club from extinction when HMRC were repeatedly knocking on the door, I would say that would be a very harsh portrayal of him. He has got many things wrong, but he has also put more money into this club than any owner before him (probably all of them put together) - the biggest issue is that money has been spent so badly leaving us no better off (on the pitch at least) than the day he walked in.

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Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:03 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Blueboys1927 wrote:Our worst ever owner, given what he has financialy at his disposal :bluebird:

He's put 150 million into us ffs also we got promoted under him arguably the most successful owner ever


Absolutely and to be honest if, when he does finally walk out of the door we are completely debt free then really it shouldn't matter what division we are in, he will have left us in a better position than when he arrived.

He may well be our most divisive owner - although there may be a Lebanese gentleman who could also push a claim for that title!

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Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:05 pm

davids wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Blueboys1927 wrote:Our worst ever owner, given what he has financialy at his disposal :bluebird:

He's put 150 million into us ffs also we got promoted under him arguably the most successful owner ever


Absolutely and to be honest if, when he does finally walk out of the door we are completely debt free then really it shouldn't matter what division we are in, he will have left us in a better position than when he arrived.

He may well be our most divisive owner - although there may be a Lebanese gentleman who could also push a claim for that title!

I belive we will be debt free but another person will take us into debt again football seems to be only for the biggest clubs now

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Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:08 pm

He confuses me. Will be able to nanswer this question when his time is up with the club. Either we will be a club hopefully debt free, or we will be without a club to support any more. I think he is unpredictable, and nobody really knows where this is going to end.

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Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:11 pm

wez1927 wrote:
davids wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Blueboys1927 wrote:Our worst ever owner, given what he has financialy at his disposal :bluebird:

He's put 150 million into us ffs also we got promoted under him arguably the most successful owner ever


Absolutely and to be honest if, when he does finally walk out of the door we are completely debt free then really it shouldn't matter what division we are in, he will have left us in a better position than when he arrived.

He may well be our most divisive owner - although there may be a Lebanese gentleman who could also push a claim for that title!

I belive we will be debt free but another person will take us into debt again football seems to be only for the biggest clubs now


Indeed. We've had one billionaire owner who's had a go and failed miserably. What are our chances of finding another one who has the nous to ensure that all the mistakes made by the Tan administration are not repeated again in the future?

All we can hope is that we are taken over by someone who has the best interests of the club and it's supporters at heart - but when was the last time we had an owner like that?

Re: Will Tan go down in our History as ...

Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:13 pm

He is far from being our worse owner, he did make a very big mistake . Another mistake was employing OGS .
But I don't think anyone who has sunk £150 million into Cardiff City, and hopefully making us debt free in time, can be classed as all bad . He will go down in Cardiff City history , but not as our worse owner .
I think most of our fans dislike Tan for what he did , but that shouldn't colour our overall view of him (see what I did there)

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Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:13 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:He confuses me. Will be able to nanswer this question when his time is up with the club. Either we will be a club hopefully debt free, or we will be without a club to support any more. I think he is unpredictable, and nobody really knows where this is going to end.


Yes and it seems as if we are not going to get any indication of his intentions from the man himself or the puppets carrying out his business decisions.

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Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:46 pm

Wez why do you continue to vigorously defend Tan. Firstly he tried to destroy our history and tradition. Then because of his actions he completed split our fan base and alienated a lot of loyal fans. Now he is asset stripping the club. Why do you feel so loyal to this dictator.

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Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:21 pm

Ebbw Blue wrote:Wez why do you continue to vigorously defend Tan. Firstly he tried to destroy our history and tradition. Then because of his actions he completed split our fan base and alienated a lot of loyal fans. Now he is asset stripping the club. Why do you feel so loyal to this dictator.


How is he asset stripping? He isn't selling a ground or a training complex (think Leeds). Yes, players have been sold - but players are commodities to sell when the time in right. Marshall has been sold - frankly we did well to keep hold off him as long as we did; Fabio has been sold - but he also purchased him, so has he been asset building as well? BTW - he was in the last year of his contract so could have gone for nothing. Some might view it as good business to get money that can help the club financially v getting nothing in a year.

Re: Will Tan go down in our History as ...

Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:28 pm

He will go down as the worst and most despicable owner we have ever had. A man that poisoned our fanbase with the red disease and a man who is now asset stripping us to hell.

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Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:29 pm

Tan city's most successful owner? Lol .trophys won under tan zero. Successful seasons in the premier league under tan zero. City have only had 2 successful periods in their history.the1920s and half of the 1950s. To my knowledge tan wasn't the owner then.

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Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:31 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Blueboys1927 wrote:Our worst ever owner, given what he has financialy at his disposal :bluebird:

He's put 150 million into us ffs also we got promoted under him arguably the most successful owner ever


Never actually won anything but financially he's been the best thing to happen but because of the circus he's made of us I do think he will be remembered as the worst even if it's not totally accurate although he has made the club a chore to most ppl

Re: Will Tan go down in our History as ...

Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:10 pm

Nowhere as bad as Sam who paid himself millions and left us for dead

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Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:32 pm

Ebbw Blue wrote:Wez why do you continue to vigorously defend Tan. Firstly he tried to destroy our history and tradition. Then because of his actions he completed split our fan base and alienated a lot of loyal fans. Now he is asset stripping the club. Why do you feel so loyal to this dictator.

apart from the rebrand which he reversed, what has he done so wrong compared to other owners ? we have always been a selling club and unless a billionaire puts money in we will always be a selling club I'm wondering were you about in the Rick Wright ,kumars ,hamman and Risdale days ? they done a lot worse than tan

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Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:33 pm

Reza wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Blueboys1927 wrote:Our worst ever owner, given what he has financialy at his disposal :bluebird:

He's put 150 million into us ffs also we got promoted under him arguably the most successful owner ever


Never actually won anything but financially he's been the best thing to happen but because of the circus he's made of us I do think he will be remembered as the worst even if it's not totally accurate although he has made the club a chore to most ppl

we won the championship for the first time and got to a carling cup final for the first time

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Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:34 pm

skiprat wrote:Tan city's most successful owner? Lol .trophys won under tan zero. Successful seasons in the premier league under tan zero. City have only had 2 successful periods in their history.the1920s and half of the 1950s. To my knowledge tan wasn't the owner then.

did you forget we won the championship?

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Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:41 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Reza wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Blueboys1927 wrote:Our worst ever owner, given what he has financialy at his disposal :bluebird:

He's put 150 million into us ffs also we got promoted under him arguably the most successful owner ever


Never actually won anything but financially he's been the best thing to happen but because of the circus he's made of us I do think he will be remembered as the worst even if it's not totally accurate although he has made the club a chore to most ppl

we won the championship for the first time and got to a carling cup final for the first time


Yeah but we got to the cup final before that I know we won the championship but that league is just about promotion

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Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:50 pm

Reza wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Reza wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Blueboys1927 wrote:Our worst ever owner, given what he has financialy at his disposal :bluebird:

He's put 150 million into us ffs also we got promoted under him arguably the most successful owner ever


Never actually won anything but financially he's been the best thing to happen but because of the circus he's made of us I do think he will be remembered as the worst even if it's not totally accurate although he has made the club a chore to most ppl

we won the championship for the first time and got to a carling cup final for the first time


Yeah but we got to the cup final before that I know we won the championship but that league is just about promotion

you said we never won anything but we have under Tan

Re: Will Tan go down in our History as ...

Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:05 pm

skiprat wrote:Tan city's most successful owner? Lol .trophys won under tan zero. Successful seasons in the premier league under tan zero. City have only had 2 successful periods in their history.the1920s and half of the 1950s. To my knowledge tan wasn't the owner then.


You know absolutely NOTHING about football.

What do you class as winning something? You sound like a typical glory hunting fan.

If you class The Premier League, Champions League, FA Cup or League Cup as WINNING. Then we are in the same boat as over 90% of clubs, but have gone to two finals.

We also WON the Championship unlike most and had a season in the Premier League unlike most.

And what did we win in the 1950's oh font of all football knowledge.

Your just another typical blinkered fan who wants to jump on the bandwagon of hatred that surrounds a man who is currently making us debt free.

I want him gone as he is divisive but I am not so blinkered to think he is anywhere near the worst owner we have ever had.

You need to get back to armchair football mate it's what you know best.

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Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:56 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Blueboys1927 wrote:Our worst ever owner, given what he has financialy at his disposal :bluebird:

He's put 150 million into us ffs also we got promoted under him arguably the most successful owner ever



All superficial wez. he's torn the heart and soul from the club. If he had an ounce of sense we could be a sustainable premier league club with a huge passionate following. Considering the money he's got at his disposal and his initial goals he's nothing less than a FAILURE.

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Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:13 am

Apart from pissing on our traditions Tan could have done great if he'd had the sense to hire top managers. Instead we have gone from good to bad to terrible to seemingly under qualified.

Tan obviously has no ambitions for this club.

Tan is a failure.

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Tue Aug 30, 2016 7:24 am

I'm no font of football knowledge but even someone as brainless as you can workout the percentage of league and fa cup winners is higher than10%.

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Tue Aug 30, 2016 7:37 am

Fergy1927 wrote:Apart from pissing on our traditions Tan could have done great if he'd had the sense to hire top managers. Instead we have gone from good to bad to terrible to seemingly under qualified.

Tan obviously has no ambitions for this club.

Tan is a failure.

He initially saved us and invested large amounts which were squandered by inept managers like OGS.
Ultimately, looking at where we are now and what he's doing ,we need a massive Tan Out movement, like the force for Blue.
He doesn't give a toss about the club, watched one game all last season and has, by selling our star keeper for a knock-down price, sent a message to everyone that the club is devoid of any ambition.

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Tue Aug 30, 2016 7:59 am

bluemun wrote:
Fergy1927 wrote:Apart from pissing on our traditions Tan could have done great if he'd had the sense to hire top managers. Instead we have gone from good to bad to terrible to seemingly under qualified.

Tan obviously has no ambitions for this club.

Tan is a failure.

He initially saved us and invested large amounts which were squandered by inept managers like OGS.
Ultimately, looking at where we are now and what he's doing ,we need a massive Tan Out movement, like the force for Blue.
He doesn't give a toss about the club, watched one game all last season and has, by selling our star keeper for a knock-down price, sent a message to everyone that the club is devoid of any ambition.

who's going to pay the bills once you drive tan out ?

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Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:10 am

One thing for sure Tan will go down in history as the best excuse for fickle supporters since the sale of Toshack. :lol:

I get absolutely sick of the crap about being 'hurt' because Tan divided the fan base. Unless my memory is playing tricks I'm sure we were playing in front of full houses whilst in the Premiership wearing a red kit.

We were relegated and the fans deserted using the red as an excuse. Eventually blue was brought back and it made no difference :roll: which just proved that if we had been relegated playing in blue the exact same fan desertion would have happened after relegation.

Therefore in my mind Tan is just a modern day version of the Toshack sale a classic excuse to jump ship when the club needs it's fans the most.

It fit perfectly with the old saying about those who shout the loudest have the most to hide.

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Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:24 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:One thing for sure Tan will go down in history as the best excuse for fickle supporters since the sale of Toshack. :lol:

I get absolutely sick of the crap about being 'hurt' because Tan divided the fan base. Unless my memory is playing tricks I'm sure we were playing in front of full houses whilst in the Premiership wearing a red kit.

We were relegated and the fans deserted using the red as an excuse. Eventually blue was brought back and it made no difference :roll: which just proved that if we had been relegated playing in blue the exact same fan desertion would have happened after relegation.

Therefore in my mind Tan is just a modern day version of the Toshack sale a classic excuse to jump ship when the club needs it's fans the most.

It fit perfectly with the old saying about those who shout the loudest have the most to hide.

totally agree

Re: Will Tan go down in our History as ...

Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:27 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:One thing for sure Tan will go down in history as the best excuse for fickle supporters since the sale of Toshack. :lol:

I get absolutely sick of the crap about being 'hurt' because Tan divided the fan base. Unless my memory is playing tricks I'm sure we were playing in front of full houses whilst in the Premiership wearing a red kit.

We were relegated and the fans deserted using the red as an excuse. Eventually blue was brought back and it made no difference :roll: which just proved that if we had been relegated playing in blue the exact same fan desertion would have happened after relegation.

Therefore in my mind Tan is just a modern day version of the Toshack sale a classic excuse to jump ship when the club needs it's fans the most.

It fit perfectly with the old saying about those who shout the loudest have the most to hide.


Great post! We were also playing in bigger crowds wearing red in the Championship the season we went up!

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Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:44 am

What I find strange at the minute is that there are no re-assuring statements coming from Tan as to where we are going from here. We have heard the usual comments from the club about play offs being the target, but the club's actions suggest otherwise, and this is just the normal talk that most clubs come out with around this time of the year anyway. The club has appointed another budget manager who has already been sacked by Bristol Rovers, sold a couple of our better players, and have made it clear there is no money to spend. That does'nt sound much like a club likely to reach the play offs to me.
I am not sure what Tan has in mind long term, and I doubt if anyone other than Tan knows either. We know he was not happy about the return to blue, and he obviously knows about the abuse pointed in his direction while we were playing in red. He has always said that the club will be in a better position at the end of his reign than when he took over. That would'nt be really difficult, and if we were in div 3 and debt free when he leaves, he could argue that he was true to his word.
I just hope that he is not getting his revenge on us for forcing his hand with the return to our true colours, especially as he appears to have lost interest in the club since we changed back to blue. I don't believe any of us know what his plans are, and I am not sure if there is going to be a good outcome at the end of all this. I honestly think that as a businessman, he is trying to minimise the losses he will suffer as a result of a risky business venture, and get out whenever it is practical to do so. Who knows where we will be when this happens.