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What if ???????

Wed May 18, 2016 10:56 am

Trollope does a great job and we are in the playoffs next season ? Trollope is a very well respected coach and has had huge success with Wales,it's not the appointment I would of wanted but I will support him as cardiff city boss people moaning on here that they won't go next season etc etc need to get a f*cking grip

Re: What if ???????

Wed May 18, 2016 11:17 am

He has far more experience at a higher level than Slade. He has achieved far more than Slade as a player and a manager.
He has experience of achieving something, like promotion.
He has far more connections in the game. He seems respected as a coach at international level, as well as club level.

So, for me, it is lets wait and see, give him a chance. :thumbup:

Re: What if ???????

Wed May 18, 2016 11:18 am

wez1927 wrote:Trollope does a great job and we are in the playoffs next season ? Trollope is a very well respected coach and has had huge success with Wales,it's not the appointment I would of wanted but I will support him as cardiff city boss people moaning on here that they won't go next season etc etc need to get a f*cking grip


Wez, it's not about Trollope, it's about what kind of autonomy he has able to have to get what he wants to be succesful.

If he gets rid of some 15-16 players soon then I will back him because he b=obviously knows we are not good enough and have too many hangers on. But - I think he's close to a lot of the players and I think we'll see he's limited to what he can do and who is actually calling the shots.

It is obvious that this is the cheapest option but if he's given a bit of rope and he has a set of balls to kick players out, maybe we 'll see a different style of play, a different atmosphere and a chance to progress.

Re: What if ???????

Wed May 18, 2016 11:19 am

arri potta wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Trollope does a great job and we are in the playoffs next season ? Trollope is a very well respected coach and has had huge success with Wales,it's not the appointment I would of wanted but I will support him as cardiff city boss people moaning on here that they won't go next season etc etc need to get a f*cking grip


Wez, it's not about Trollope, it's about what kind of autonomy he has able to have to get what he wants to be succesful.

If he gets rid of some 15-16 players soon then I will back him because he b=obviously knows we are not good enough and have too many hangers on. But - I think he's close to a lot of the players and I think we'll see he's limited to what he can do and who is actually calling the shots.

It is obvious that this is the cheapest option but if he's given a bit of rope and he has a set of balls to kick players out, maybe we 'll see a different style of play, a different atmosphere and a chance to progress.

Just think we as fans need to give him a chance

Re: What if ???????

Wed May 18, 2016 11:20 am

wez1927 wrote:Trollope does a great job and we are in the playoffs next season ? Trollope is a very well respected coach and has had huge success with Wales,it's not the appointment I would of wanted but I will support him as cardiff city boss people moaning on here that they won't go next season etc etc need to get a f*cking grip


What If,,,,,,Wales win the Euros & City get promoted under PT?

P.S. My holidays this Summer will be on Fantasy Island,,,,have you ever been there? Its lovely this time of year! 8-)

Re: What if ???????

Wed May 18, 2016 11:20 am

wez1927 wrote:Trollope does a great job and we are in the playoffs next season ? Trollope is a very well respected coach and has had huge success with Wales,it's not the appointment I would of wanted but I will support him as cardiff city boss people moaning on here that they won't go next season etc etc need to get a f*cking grip

100 percent agree mate :thumbup:

Re: What if ???????

Wed May 18, 2016 11:23 am

wez1927 wrote:
arri potta wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Trollope does a great job and we are in the playoffs next season ? Trollope is a very well respected coach and has had huge success with Wales,it's not the appointment I would of wanted but I will support him as cardiff city boss people moaning on here that they won't go next season etc etc need to get a f*cking grip


Wez, it's not about Trollope, it's about what kind of autonomy he has able to have to get what he wants to be succesful.

If he gets rid of some 15-16 players soon then I will back him because he b=obviously knows we are not good enough and have too many hangers on. But - I think he's close to a lot of the players and I think we'll see he's limited to what he can do and who is actually calling the shots.

It is obvious that this is the cheapest option but if he's given a bit of rope and he has a set of balls to kick players out, maybe we 'll see a different style of play, a different atmosphere and a chance to progress.

Just think we as fans need to give him a chance


that's what I am saying :laughing6:

Re: What if ???????

Wed May 18, 2016 11:26 am

wez1927 wrote:Trollope does a great job and we are in the playoffs next season ? Trollope is a very well respected coach and has had huge success with Wales,it's not the appointment I would of wanted but I will support him as cardiff city boss people moaning on here that they won't go next season etc etc need to get a f*cking grip




Totally agree. Paul Trollope is the new man at the helm, we as fans must unite and get behind him and give him our full support.

Re: What if ???????

Wed May 18, 2016 11:33 am

Not my choice but he gets my support unless he shows he isn't up to the job, got to be given a chance though

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Wed May 18, 2016 11:39 am

abergblue wrote:He has far more experience at a higher level than Slade. He has achieved far more than Slade as a player and a manager.
He has experience of achieving something, like promotion.
He has far more connections in the game. He seems respected as a coach at international level, as well as club level.

So, for me, it is lets wait and see, give him a chance. :thumbup:



So far all can see is people referring to is failure 6yrs ago! What about his relative success as a coach? Think people be surprised now the chains have Been taken off! at least he knows what is required on the pitch and what players are required that's a big help,would another manager do any better within he constraints club are under? :old:

Re: What if ???????

Wed May 18, 2016 11:39 am

wez1927 wrote:
arri potta wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Trollope does a great job and we are in the playoffs next season ? Trollope is a very well respected coach and has had huge success with Wales,it's not the appointment I would of wanted but I will support him as cardiff city boss people moaning on here that they won't go next season etc etc need to get a f*cking grip


Wez, it's not about Trollope, it's about what kind of autonomy he has able to have to get what he wants to be succesful.

If he gets rid of some 15-16 players soon then I will back him because he b=obviously knows we are not good enough and have too many hangers on. But - I think he's close to a lot of the players and I think we'll see he's limited to what he can do and who is actually calling the shots.

It is obvious that this is the cheapest option but if he's given a bit of rope and he has a set of balls to kick players out, maybe we 'll see a different style of play, a different atmosphere and a chance to progress.

Just think we as fans need to give him a chance



Whilst I have no doubt this appointment is a low cost option as far as the club goes it doesn't mean it's the wrong decision. The club statement talks about " continuity and stability" and there is a lot to be said for that.

PT arrived at a time the club was going nowhere fast under RS and there is no doubt that we did see an upturn in performances and results. How much of that was down to PT is anyone's guess but obviously the people that matter within the club have liked what they have seen.

As fans we should get behind our new Head Coach and stay behind him next season, that should be the least we can do for him, as far as the club goes the club has said PT "Has our FULL support". So with all this talk of continuity, stability and full support let's hope we have a season free of "Non football related business decisions" and PT doesn't have to endure having players sold or loaned out when ever VT get's out of bed the wrong side.

Best of luck to you Paul.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: What if ???????

Wed May 18, 2016 11:39 am

he'll be sacked by xmas....hope im wrong and he turns out to be a wonder manager but i dont think he will

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Wed May 18, 2016 11:42 am

It’s a tricky one, it is underwhelming but in my opinion a change had to be made and this is still a step up from Slade. I certainly don’t think it’s just the same as last season as Trollope will come in with his own ideas and plans and I bet a new style of playing. We know Slade was a stubborn dinosaur so I’m certainly up for giving Trollope a chance, as with every manager he will get my support as long as I can see light at the end of the tunnel.

However I can’t help but feel this is a missed opportunity with a lot of decent coaches and managers available. I also find it extremely odd that he wasn’t announced as manager at the time it was announced Slade was moving upstairs. Maybe they thought they could get someone else? maybe they thought Bellamy would be interested who knows pure speculation on my behalf.

The appointment to me certainly shows that money will be once again very limited to sign players and no doubt players will be leaving but I don’t think that’s a bad thing, we are supposed to have a huge wage bill still and I don’t think we have a lot to show for it if I’m honest. People say Slade cut the wage bill but I don’t think he had much choice, they were being sold with or without his consent. The issue is we still have a lot of dead wood some of which was signed by Slade and others from previous managers.

People say it lacks ambition but what is ambition? spending money we don’t have? many clubs have done that and failed and the repercussions have been disastrous.
We have seen clubs spend big and with high profile managers, look at Man United who have spent a fortune and are now playing the worse football for a long time. And Leicester who have spent a much smaller amount in comparison winning the league. Fans think they always know best but then fans don’t ever agree amongst themselves.

We only have to look at all the crap Sam/Langston put the club and fans through to get his money back. Everyone wants to have a go at Tan for everything he says and does but still expect him to put up the cash despite wiping out a huge amount of the debt already. If Tan wants to make cut backs and make us self-sufficient then I fully support him in doing so.

At the end of the day a big name manager or someone like Trollope, the proof will be with how the team perform on the pitch and the pressure on Trollope will be huge from the go.

Re: What if ???????

Wed May 18, 2016 11:52 am

wez1927 wrote:Trollope does a great job and we are in the playoffs next season ? Trollope is a very well respected coach and has had huge success with Wales,it's not the appointment I would of wanted but I will support him as cardiff city boss people moaning on here that they won't go next season etc etc need to get a f*cking grip

Agree Wez,I hope everyone now gets behind him.

Re: What if ???????

Wed May 18, 2016 12:10 pm

wez1927 wrote:Trollope does a great job and we are in the playoffs next season ? Trollope is a very well respected coach and has had huge success with Wales,it's not the appointment I would of wanted but I will support him as cardiff city boss people moaning on here that they won't go next season etc etc need to get a f*cking grip


Wez. I get more excited about younger less experienced manager than the likes of Warnock because i believe they are fresh , hungry for success and everything to prove.
We shouldn't judge Trollope on his role with Slade nor should we judge him because Solskear ( spl ) messed up. Whoever comes in i hope the club and fans give him time.
Hopefully the next one will pay more attention to the academy and development players :ayatollah:

Re: What if ???????

Wed May 18, 2016 12:10 pm

If he doesn't make the playoffs, will he also be moved upstairs. LOL.

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Wed May 18, 2016 12:15 pm

Good post wez

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Wed May 18, 2016 12:18 pm

wez1927 wrote:Trollope does a great job and we are in the playoffs next season ? Trollope is a very well respected coach and has had huge success with Wales,it's not the appointment I would of wanted but I will support him as cardiff city boss people moaning on here that they won't go next season etc etc need to get a f*cking grip


thats easy, you'll get people who state that he is a terrible appointment, saying he should be sacked if he loses one game, going on to say they were right all along that he was the right appointment.

thats message boards for you. most football fans don't see the bigger picture, and this club is no different.

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Wed May 18, 2016 1:09 pm

We all thought Malky was a good idea at the time, but that went sour.

We thought that Solskjaer was a good alternative, but that was an expensive disaster.

We were all underwhelmed by the appointment of Slade, but that actually turned out OK.

So lets give the new guy a chance. When I saw him speak on TV earlier he said that there would be changes in the backroom staff. Perhaps he is the man to bring Bellamy on board? Who knows, but come August I'll be back behind the manager and the team. :bluescarf:

Re: What if ???????

Wed May 18, 2016 1:25 pm

No doubt he has gained more experience over the last few years since he left Bristol Rovers and I don't think Chris Coleman would have taken him as a coach for Wales if he didn't think he was up to it. Don't forget what everyone thought of Coleman's appointment and look what happened next - so lets see what happens with Paul Trollope before slagging him off. I wasn't impressed when we appointed Slade, but I didn't get on his back straight away, you have to give a manager a chance.

Re: What if ???????

Wed May 18, 2016 1:53 pm

Wez, I think you're right.

He wouldn't have been my choice but all we, as fans, can do is support him.

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Wed May 18, 2016 1:55 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:Wez, I think you're right.

He wouldn't have been my choice but all we, as fans, can do is support him.

I got a feeling that he might come good with his own choice of no 2 and he spoke very well in his interview I think we should all wait and see

Re: What if ???????

Wed May 18, 2016 2:22 pm

wez1927 wrote:Trollope does a great job and we are in the playoffs next season ? Trollope is a very well respected coach and has had huge success with Wales,it's not the appointment I would of wanted but I will support him as cardiff city boss people moaning on here that they won't go next season etc etc need to get a f*cking grip


It could happen.

On the other hand,what if he's absolute dogshite and he has to be dismissed with the club in the relegation zone like he was at Bristol Rovers and we've then thrown away another season and another opportunity to appoint a decent manager.

I'm not really understanding this "huge success" with Wales either? Was he the manager? Or are we saying that the players were listening to him rather than Coleman? Do we know that he was doing things differently with Wales than he was with Cardiff last season?

I'm only really interested in Cardiff to be honest and as far as I can tell he was very much part of the problem last season so I don't see how it'll be any different this season.

Good luck to him - I think he's going to need it.

Re: What if ???????

Wed May 18, 2016 3:41 pm

davids wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Trollope does a great job and we are in the playoffs next season ? Trollope is a very well respected coach and has had huge success with Wales,it's not the appointment I would of wanted but I will support him as cardiff city boss people moaning on here that they won't go next season etc etc need to get a f*cking grip


It could happen.

On the other hand,what if he's absolute dogshite and he has to be dismissed with the club in the relegation zone like he was at Bristol Rovers and we've then thrown away another season and another opportunity to appoint a decent manager.

I'm not really understanding this "huge success" with Wales either? Was he the manager? Or are we saying that the players were listening to him rather than Coleman? Do we know that he was doing things differently with Wales than he was with Cardiff last season?

I'm only really interested in Cardiff to be honest and as far as I can tell he was very much part of the problem last season so I don't see how it'll be any different this season.

Good luck to him - I think he's going to need it.

So being Wales assistant isn't a huge success ?

Re: What if ???????

Wed May 18, 2016 3:45 pm

wez1927 wrote:Trollope does a great job and we are in the playoffs next season ? Trollope is a very well respected coach and has had huge success with Wales,it's not the appointment I would of wanted but I will support him as cardiff city boss people moaning on here that they won't go next season etc etc need to get a f*cking grip


What if what?

Re: What if ???????

Wed May 18, 2016 3:59 pm

wez1927 wrote:
davids wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Trollope does a great job and we are in the playoffs next season ? Trollope is a very well respected coach and has had huge success with Wales,it's not the appointment I would of wanted but I will support him as cardiff city boss people moaning on here that they won't go next season etc etc need to get a f*cking grip


It could happen.

On the other hand,what if he's absolute dogshite and he has to be dismissed with the club in the relegation zone like he was at Bristol Rovers and we've then thrown away another season and another opportunity to appoint a decent manager.

I'm not really understanding this "huge success" with Wales either? Was he the manager? Or are we saying that the players were listening to him rather than Coleman? Do we know that he was doing things differently with Wales than he was with Cardiff last season?

I'm only really interested in Cardiff to be honest and as far as I can tell he was very much part of the problem last season so I don't see how it'll be any different this season.

Good luck to him - I think he's going to need it.

So being Wales assistant isn't a huge success ?


Not in my eyes.

If we're absolutely honest without Bale and Ramsey it's highly unlikely that Wales would have qualified for anything.

How much influence does an "assistant" have anyway? Are we saying he had lots of influence with Wales but no influence with Cardiff last season? If he was a "success" with Wales then you have to say he was a "failure" with Cardiff City.

Now, if he can persuade Bale or Ramsey to join Cardiff that would be another matter! :thumbup:

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Wed May 18, 2016 4:16 pm

davids wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Trollope does a great job and we are in the playoffs next season ? Trollope is a very well respected coach and has had huge success with Wales,it's not the appointment I would of wanted but I will support him as cardiff city boss people moaning on here that they won't go next season etc etc need to get a f*cking grip


It could happen.

On the other hand,what if he's absolute dogshite and he has to be dismissed with the club in the relegation zone like he was at Bristol Rovers and we've then thrown away another season and another opportunity to appoint a decent manager.

I'm not really understanding this "huge success" with Wales either? Was he the manager? Or are we saying that the players were listening to him rather than Coleman? Do we know that he was doing things differently with Wales than he was with Cardiff last season?

I'm only really interested in Cardiff to be honest and as far as I can tell he was very much part of the problem last season so I don't see how it'll be any different this season.

Good luck to him - I think he's going to need it.



You make valid points about wales but rovers was 6yrs ago!! And he as had some moderate success as a number two since then, don't go with opportunity lost as it's hit miss with any new appointment anyway, especially as we are still apparently in slim down mode as a club. :thumbup:

Re: What if ???????

Wed May 18, 2016 4:24 pm

Support him I think he will do well someone with new ideas I'm looking forward to what he can do. :thumbright: :ayatollah:

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Wed May 18, 2016 4:25 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
davids wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Trollope does a great job and we are in the playoffs next season ? Trollope is a very well respected coach and has had huge success with Wales,it's not the appointment I would of wanted but I will support him as cardiff city boss people moaning on here that they won't go next season etc etc need to get a f*cking grip


It could happen.

On the other hand,what if he's absolute dogshite and he has to be dismissed with the club in the relegation zone like he was at Bristol Rovers and we've then thrown away another season and another opportunity to appoint a decent manager.

I'm not really understanding this "huge success" with Wales either? Was he the manager? Or are we saying that the players were listening to him rather than Coleman? Do we know that he was doing things differently with Wales than he was with Cardiff last season?

I'm only really interested in Cardiff to be honest and as far as I can tell he was very much part of the problem last season so I don't see how it'll be any different this season.

Good luck to him - I think he's going to need it.



You make valid points about wales but rovers was 6yrs ago!! And he as had some moderate success as a number two since then, don't go with opportunity lost as it's hit miss with any new appointment anyway, especially as we are still apparently in slim down mode as a club. :thumbup:


Indeed Rovers was six years ago but nobody has seen fit to offer him a manager's job since then other than Cardiff City!

You're right, of course it's hit and miss and he must be given the opportunity and support but I can't help feeling that, like Slade before him, it's a task with an objective for which he is unprepared.

Re: What if ???????

Wed May 18, 2016 4:31 pm

davids wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
davids wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Trollope does a great job and we are in the playoffs next season ? Trollope is a very well respected coach and has had huge success with Wales,it's not the appointment I would of wanted but I will support him as cardiff city boss people moaning on here that they won't go next season etc etc need to get a f*cking grip


It could happen.

On the other hand,what if he's absolute dogshite and he has to be dismissed with the club in the relegation zone like he was at Bristol Rovers and we've then thrown away another season and another opportunity to appoint a decent manager.

I'm not really understanding this "huge success" with Wales either? Was he the manager? Or are we saying that the players were listening to him rather than Coleman? Do we know that he was doing things differently with Wales than he was with Cardiff last season?

I'm only really interested in Cardiff to be honest and as far as I can tell he was very much part of the problem last season so I don't see how it'll be any different this season.

Good luck to him - I think he's going to need it.



You make valid points about wales but rovers was 6yrs ago!! And he as had some moderate success as a number two since then, don't go with opportunity lost as it's hit miss with any new appointment anyway, especially as we are still apparently in slim down mode as a club. :thumbup:


Indeed Rovers was six years ago but nobody has seen fit to offer him a manager's job since then other than Cardiff City!

You're right, of course it's hit and miss and he must be given the opportunity and support but I can't help feeling that, like Slade before him, it's a task with an objective for which he is unprepared.



Wasn't he a number 2 until we got him so has he gone for a managers post after rovers? If trollope is unprepared after 2yrs with us how on earth would an inexperienced young manager cope with everything?