Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:13 am
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Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:05 am
Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:07 am
Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:24 am
Plymuff Bloobird wrote:Finally the families involved have got what they wanted.
Nobody should go to a football match and not return home.
Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:34 am
Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:38 am
CHRIS PIKE wrote:Justice finally done . For a country that prides itself on truth and integrity the whole matter stunk. Hang your heads in shame to all who tried to cover this up..
Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:45 am
Sneggyblubird wrote:CHRIS PIKE wrote:Justice finally done . For a country that prides itself on truth and integrity the whole matter stunk. Hang your heads in shame to all who tried to cover this up..
I find it all shameful.Looking back we called it the good old days if you are of my age(58).Just goes to show the corruption of all the establishment.not just the police but council officials,government ministers and just about any establishment authority.When you consider what went on in childrens homes up and down the country and whats been swept under the carpet,makes you wonder if any of them weren't bent.
Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:20 pm
arri potta wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:CHRIS PIKE wrote:Justice finally done . For a country that prides itself on truth and integrity the whole matter stunk. Hang your heads in shame to all who tried to cover this up..
I find it all shameful.Looking back we called it the good old days if you are of my age(58).Just goes to show the corruption of all the establishment.not just the police but council officials,government ministers and just about any establishment authority.When you consider what went on in childrens homes up and down the country and whats been swept under the carpet,makes you wonder if any of them weren't bent.
they were all bent!!!
Tue Apr 26, 2016 2:43 pm
Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:04 pm
Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:20 pm
pembroke allan wrote:While justice has finally been seen to be done, I never understood why the thousand or so Liverpool fans without tickets at the ground were not criticised or blamed for their part in causing the crush at the gates? surely the events wouldn't have happened if they hadn't been there.
Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:24 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:arri potta wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:CHRIS PIKE wrote:Justice finally done . For a country that prides itself on truth and integrity the whole matter stunk. Hang your heads in shame to all who tried to cover this up..
I find it all shameful.Looking back we called it the good old days if you are of my age(58).Just goes to show the corruption of all the establishment.not just the police but council officials,government ministers and just about any establishment authority.When you consider what went on in childrens homes up and down the country and whats been swept under the carpet,makes you wonder if any of them weren't bent.
they were all bent!!!
This country can compete with the best of them in the corruption stakes. MP's, councilors, police, the press. Quite difficult to know when you are hearing the truth in this country, seems like everyone is out to line their own pockets while looking after their own backs, and tough luck to any honest people stupid enough to get in their way.
Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:06 pm
blue lagoon wrote:A minute applause should be done on Sat.
Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:22 pm
pembroke allan wrote:While justice has finally been seen to be done, I never understood why the thousand or so Liverpool fans without tickets at the ground were not criticised or blamed for their part in causing the crush at the gates? surely the events wouldn't have happened if they hadn't been there.
Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:06 pm
rhondda 1015 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:While justice has finally been seen to be done, I never understood why the thousand or so Liverpool fans without tickets at the ground were not criticised or blamed for their part in causing the crush at the gates? surely the events wouldn't have happened if they hadn't been there.
At last, someone on here has said what thousands of other football fans throughout the UK think. Deep down, the ticketless Liverpool fans that turned up that day know they were as much to blame, they'll have to live with it for the rest of their lives.
Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:14 pm
pembroke allan wrote:rhondda 1015 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:While justice has finally been seen to be done, I never understood why the thousand or so Liverpool fans without tickets at the ground were not criticised or blamed for their part in causing the crush at the gates? surely the events wouldn't have happened if they hadn't been there.
At last, someone on here has said what thousands of other football fans throughout the UK think. Deep down, the ticketless Liverpool fans that turned up that day know they were as much to blame, they'll have to live with it for the rest of their lives.
I had trouble at leppings Rd couple years before with city when chased by Wed fans! No one can reasonably say that the fact there was couple thousand pool fans without tickets didn't contribute to the events that day? Yes police messed up cannot argue that but wasn't whole story I feel.
Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:18 pm
murphy wrote:pembroke allan wrote:rhondda 1015 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:While justice has finally been seen to be done, I never understood why the thousand or so Liverpool fans without tickets at the ground were not criticised or blamed for their part in causing the crush at the gates? surely the events wouldn't have happened if they hadn't been there.
At last, someone on here has said what thousands of other football fans throughout the UK think. Deep down, the ticketless Liverpool fans that turned up that day know they were as much to blame, they'll have to live with it for the rest of their lives.
I had trouble at leppings Rd couple years before with city when chased by Wed fans! No one can reasonably say that the fact there was couple thousand pool fans without tickets didn't contribute to the events that day? Yes police messed up cannot argue that but wasn't whole story I feel.
There's a report saying that 96 would have died even if no ticketless fans got let in. As for fans without tickets, why were they let in?
Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:25 pm
pembroke allan wrote:rhondda 1015 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:While justice has finally been seen to be done, I never understood why the thousand or so Liverpool fans without tickets at the ground were not criticised or blamed for their part in causing the crush at the gates? surely the events wouldn't have happened if they hadn't been there.
At last, someone on here has said what thousands of other football fans throughout the UK think. Deep down, the ticketless Liverpool fans that turned up that day know they were as much to blame, they'll have to live with it for the rest of their lives.
I had trouble at leppings Rd couple years before with city when chased by Wed fans! No one can reasonably say that the fact there was couple thousand pool fans without tickets didn't contribute to the events that day? Yes police messed up cannot argue that but wasn't whole story I feel.
Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:30 pm
wez1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:rhondda 1015 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:While justice has finally been seen to be done, I never understood why the thousand or so Liverpool fans without tickets at the ground were not criticised or blamed for their part in causing the crush at the gates? surely the events wouldn't have happened if they hadn't been there.
At last, someone on here has said what thousands of other football fans throughout the UK think. Deep down, the ticketless Liverpool fans that turned up that day know they were as much to blame, they'll have to live with it for the rest of their lives.
I had trouble at leppings Rd couple years before with city when chased by Wed fans! No one can reasonably say that the fact there was couple thousand pool fans without tickets didn't contribute to the events that day? Yes police messed up cannot argue that but wasn't whole story I feel.
I agree with you that surly this was a cause as well ,but I think that they were never going to say that as I think they want closure on this now
Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:32 pm
the victims should get compensation as it wasn't there fault and hopefully will get a lot and then the matter will be closedpembroke allan wrote:wez1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:rhondda 1015 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:While justice has finally been seen to be done, I never understood why the thousand or so Liverpool fans without tickets at the ground were not criticised or blamed for their part in causing the crush at the gates? surely the events wouldn't have happened if they hadn't been there.
At last, someone on here has said what thousands of other football fans throughout the UK think. Deep down, the ticketless Liverpool fans that turned up that day know they were as much to blame, they'll have to live with it for the rest of their lives.
I had trouble at leppings Rd couple years before with city when chased by Wed fans! No one can reasonably say that the fact there was couple thousand pool fans without tickets didn't contribute to the events that day? Yes police messed up cannot argue that but wasn't whole story I feel.
I agree with you that surly this was a cause as well ,but I think that they were never going to say that as I think they want closure on this now
Yes and to blame someone! no doubt was a cover up but feel no one wanted to blame fans in any way? What it does leave now is compensation and prosecution for people so don't think closure is anytime soon..
Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:36 pm
wez1927 wrote:the victims should get compensation as it wasn't there fault and hopefully will get a lot and then the matter will be closedpembroke allan wrote:wez1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:rhondda 1015 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:While justice has finally been seen to be done, I never understood why the thousand or so Liverpool fans without tickets at the ground were not criticised or blamed for their part in causing the crush at the gates? surely the events wouldn't have happened if they hadn't been there.
At last, someone on here has said what thousands of other football fans throughout the UK think. Deep down, the ticketless Liverpool fans that turned up that day know they were as much to blame, they'll have to live with it for the rest of their lives.
I had trouble at leppings Rd couple years before with city when chased by Wed fans! No one can reasonably say that the fact there was couple thousand pool fans without tickets didn't contribute to the events that day? Yes police messed up cannot argue that but wasn't whole story I feel.
I agree with you that surly this was a cause as well ,but I think that they were never going to say that as I think they want closure on this now
Yes and to blame someone! no doubt was a cover up but feel no one wanted to blame fans in any way? What it does leave now is compensation and prosecution for people so don't think closure is anytime soon..
Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:00 pm
Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:43 pm
rhondda 1015 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:While justice has finally been seen to be done, I never understood why the thousand or so Liverpool fans without tickets at the ground were not criticised or blamed for their part in causing the crush at the gates? surely the events wouldn't have happened if they hadn't been there.
At last, someone on here has said what thousands of other football fans throughout the UK think. Deep down, the ticketless Liverpool fans that turned up that day know they were as much to blame, they'll have to live with it for the rest of their lives.
Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:49 pm
bluebird-77 wrote:rhondda 1015 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:While justice has finally been seen to be done, I never understood why the thousand or so Liverpool fans without tickets at the ground were not criticised or blamed for their part in causing the crush at the gates? surely the events wouldn't have happened if they hadn't been there.
At last, someone on here has said what thousands of other football fans throughout the UK think. Deep down, the ticketless Liverpool fans that turned up that day know they were as much to blame, they'll have to live with it for the rest of their lives.
totally agree with this. no doubt that the ticketless fans don't turn up the disaster doesn't happen. police made mistakes but thers blood on many hands.
think the authorites just got sick of enquiry after enquiry and just given them the answer they wanted to hear.
Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:10 pm
rhondda 1015 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:While justice has finally been seen to be done, I never understood why the thousand or so Liverpool fans without tickets at the ground were not criticised or blamed for their part in causing the crush at the gates? surely the events wouldn't have happened if they hadn't been there.
At last, someone on here has said what thousands of other football fans throughout the UK think. Deep down, the ticketless Liverpool fans that turned up that day know they were as much to blame, they'll have to live with it for the rest of their lives.
Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:03 am
Wed Apr 27, 2016 9:22 am
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:
It's a difficult one this as many completely innocent people died that day and anyone who attended big games in the eighties will know it could have happened to them as the organisation at these games was incompetent and amateurish at best
No doubt at all the police handling of the day was shocking and the attempt to cover it up is nothing short of scandalous....but certain ticketless fans who rushed the turnstiles that day are not exactly blameless either
Wed Apr 27, 2016 9:55 am