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Sat Feb 27, 2016 11:18 pm
But if I was Vincent Tan I would give Russell Slade a new contract. And here's why.
Slade has done a great job with City, whether some will admit or not. We are THREE points off the play-offs and I truly believe we will be in the top six come May. I even think we could be promoted.
Whether that happens or not, Slade has done enough to earn a new contract.
I expected a bottom eight finish at the start of this season. I don't see our manager capable of doing anything better, but I'm happy to admit I was wrong.
I'm not saying Slade is the best manager in the world, or even the best we've ever had, but he has done a remarkable job under very difficult circumstances. I now believe him, and I didn't expect myself to say that.
If I was the owner of Cardiff City Football Club, I would offer Slade a 12-month extension. Not many managers would do a better job under similar circumstances.
Sat Feb 27, 2016 11:22 pm
Still vital games to win yet but whatever happens till the end of the season Slade has done a very good job and improved a lot from last season and he is proving to be very good value for money so I would also give him a new contract aswell.
Sat Feb 27, 2016 11:32 pm
A no from me, I think we have done OK despite of him. Admittedly he hasn't been as bad for the team as I thought but still so many huge red flags fly every week.
Sat Feb 27, 2016 11:36 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:But if I was Vincent Tan I would give Russell Slade a new contract. And here's why.
Slade has done a great job with City, whether some will admit or not. We are THREE points off the play-offs and I truly believe we will be in the top six come May. I even think we could be promoted.
Whether that happens or not, Slade has done enough to earn a new contract.
I expected a bottom eight finish at the start of this season. I don't see our manager capable of doing anything better, but I'm happy to admit I was wrong.
I'm not saying Slade is the best manager in the world, or even the best we've ever had, but he has done a remarkable job under very difficult circumstances. I now believe him, and I didn't expect myself to say that.
If I was the owner of Cardiff City Football Club, I would offer Slade a 12-month extension. Not many managers would do a better job under similar circumstances.
I don't think your mad, but I do think fans are to quick to go over the top after some decent results but equally when we have a bad run. He's proving a lot wrong, some people will stick to what they said as some are more stubborn than others. These decisions need to be made come the end of the season, for now it's game on
Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:51 am
Hes done OK recently but there are still some huge question marks over his ability to push us on.
He made some great loan signings, when forced to, but his permanent signings have been very poor. He has ignored talented players and it's only in adversity that he seems to get things a little better. Additionally the football we play is still inconsistent and variable.
I would still wait and see.
Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:53 am
hes already earned a new contract. Clearly, there is no place for a manager that doesn't have time for 'suggestions; or tells the interferers politely it's not welcome
Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:11 am
ThomasC wrote:hes already earned a new contract. Clearly, there is no place for a manager that doesn't have time for 'suggestions; or tells the interferers politely it's not welcome
I've never known so many people that would cut off their nose despite their face as populates this forum.
Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:28 am
I have backed Slade for the most part this season as I think he is brilliant value for money. I put this down to the fact Slade has no ego, he simply loves the job he does and his first thought is not how much can he screw out of the club.
This is in direct contrast to the past 3 managers, yes even Malky McKay.
I will admit there have been times this season when I thought everyone else would be proved right about Slade as some of the performances were not acceptable and the football was frankly boring.
However, I have kept faith in him simply due the circumstances he inherited and the mess he had to sort out. I wouldn't say he has completely proved people wrong (yet) but looking objectively at our season there has been clear evidence of things improving on the pitch both with results and entertainment value.
Personally I would state that throwing all that progress away and starting again with a new manager would be a bad move. If Slade moves on we simply can't afford an experienced Championship manager and would have to look for a Slade MKII without any guarantees that they would be successful or take another 2 years to get to grips with this league.
Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:10 am
Surely would be hard to find a reason not to give him a chance. Even if we don't reach play offs he has done enough when all is considered
Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:37 am
Sneggyblubird wrote:ThomasC wrote:hes already earned a new contract. Clearly, there is no place for a manager that doesn't have time for 'suggestions; or tells the interferers politely it's not welcome
I've never known so many people that would cut off their nose despite their face as populates this forum.
I never made an opinion on it other than stating the obvious, It's Tan's club and if he wants to make opinions it's his privilege as the owner. Just saying the manager employed has to be a certain type.
Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:57 am
Yeah, I do think you are mad.
Slade freely admits the Jones and Mason decisions were not his and he would have kept them, our sudden improvement has come from Tan or Tans advisor's. Immers would have been on Tans Belguims club radar not Slades. We all knew about Lawrence after the Dutch game.
We were minutes away from disaster yesterday. Taking off Pilks and putting that carthorse on stopped any chance of our knicking a third. The "upturn" has been based upon pace, intelligence and movement, Slades Modus Operandi is kick and rush and when he panics he reverts to that.
How many days have we been in the play offs positions for ? He has a target that week on week he hasn't achieved although as the bookies know you only pay on the last day of the season.
It is in our hands, so by default so is his future contract.
A question for you Worcester, if we were promoted, would you keep him as our premier league manager ?
Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:04 am
ThomasC wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:ThomasC wrote:hes already earned a new contract. Clearly, there is no place for a manager that doesn't have time for 'suggestions; or tells the interferers politely it's not welcome
I've never known so many people that would cut off their nose despite their face as populates this forum.
I never made an opinion on it other than stating the obvious, It's Tan's club and if he wants to make opinions it's his privilege as the owner. Just saying the manager employed has to be a certain type.
That's the point I'm trying to make.
We won't have a "proper" management structure until Tan goes so who else will do a better job than Slade under these restrictions?
Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:07 am
llan bluebird wrote:Yeah, I do think you are mad.
Slade freely admits the Jones and Mason decisions were not his and he would have kept them, our sudden improvement has come from Tan or Tans advisor's. Immers would have been on Tans Belguims club radar not Slades. We all knew about Lawrence after the Dutch game.
We were minutes away from disaster yesterday. Taking off Pilks and putting that carthorse on stopped any chance of our knicking a third. The "upturn" has been based upon pace, intelligence and movement, Slades Modus Operandi is kick and rush and when he panics he reverts to that.
How many days have we been in the play offs positions for ? He has a target that week on week he hasn't achieved although as the bookies know you only pay on the last day of the season.
It is in our hands, so by default so is his future contract.
A question for you Worcester, if we were promoted, would you keep him as our premier league manager ?
Yes I would. I believe any manager who gets a club promoted deserves their chance to manage in the higher division.
The reason I'd keep him? Just read my last reply to ThomasC. Is there really anyone who'd do better under these circumstances?
People can keep dreaming of Bellamy, but it won't happen while Tan is around.
Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:13 am
worcester_ccfc wrote:ThomasC wrote:Sneggyblubird wrote:ThomasC wrote:hes already earned a new contract. Clearly, there is no place for a manager that doesn't have time for 'suggestions; or tells the interferers politely it's not welcome
I've never known so many people that would cut off their nose despite their face as populates this forum.
I never made an opinion on it other than stating the obvious, It's Tan's club and if he wants to make opinions it's his privilege as the owner. Just saying the manager employed has to be a certain type.
That's the point I'm trying to make.
We won't have a "proper" management structure until Tan goes so who else will do a better job than Slade under these restrictions?
I think he is the right man too. Just can't see any other candidate better than Slade for the salary on offer and the restrictions.
I have to say Llan Bluebird made a great post above ^^
The new signings are all coming from Tan and his advisor's. Any posters who think i'm negative about Tan, well, I have given him a compliment here. He is getting a team together that are clearly better than Slade's scouting networks
Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:15 am
llan bluebird wrote:Yeah, I do think you are mad.
Slade freely admits the Jones and Mason decisions were not his and he would have kept them, our sudden improvement has come from Tan or Tans advisor's. Immers would have been on Tans Belguims club radar not Slades. We all knew about Lawrence after the Dutch game.
We were minutes away from disaster yesterday. Taking off Pilks and putting that carthorse on stopped any chance of our knicking a third. The "upturn" has been based upon pace, intelligence and movement, Slades Modus Operandi is kick and rush and when he panics he reverts to that.
How many days have we been in the play offs positions for ? He has a target that week on week he hasn't achieved although as the bookies know you only pay on the last day of the season.
It is in our hands, so by default so is his future contract.
A question for you Worcester, if we were promoted, would you keep him as our premier league manager ?
But how many times?? Burnley for example have fans slated Slade for doing like for like changes when 2-0 up and not going 5 in midfield
Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:18 am
He'd be sacked by christmas.
Watford and Leicester have shown the cut throat desire you need to survive. If Tan had sacked Malky in the summer there would have been riots (

) but if we had a manger who knew what the top level was about we may have survived he would be a distant memory. But, we all believed he was the messiah whilst i doubt whether many believe Slade is the messiah.
I have enjoyed our last 4 or five games despite Slade not because of him. I don't particularly want Bellers but i want someone from the modern era. I wouldn't be surprised if we had Johan Walem next season, who knows.
Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:18 am
I have to say diplomacy far out-ways management ability as the main criteria as manager of CCFC
Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:24 am
Personally I think you are mad! All entitled to our opinions though. Slade has done a good job in terms of cutting losses and keeping a competitive squad. However he is tactically inept and his refusal to give youth a chance is baffling.
I believe with a tactically aware manager we'd be in 4th place. Points dropped v the likes ofvRotherham and MK Dons are down to no plan b. Points dropped from winning positions v Burnley and Wednesday are down to him not being able to counteract opposition tactic changes.
I know we won yesterday but the strange substitutes could have cost us had we had any injuries. From memory we had 1 keeper, 1 defender, 1 midfielder and 4 attacking players. To me that's lunacy. The bench should have a full back, centre back, 2 midfielders and 2 attacking players. In the squad there should always be at least 1 academy product such as O'Sullivan or John.
Slade should not be given a new deal at end of season in my opinion.
Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:25 am
I said last season when he took over that give him a full season and he'll come good and my prediction seems to be spot on considering his limitation in the transfer market unlike the top 6 who've spent millions
Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:28 am
I would like to add. If he does get a new contract in the summer would the expectation be higher (providing we don't get promoted ) this season
Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:41 am
Gareth (Wilts) wrote:Personally I think you are mad! All entitled to our opinions though. Slade has done a good job in terms of cutting losses and keeping a competitive squad. However he is tactically inept and his refusal to give youth a chance is baffling.
I believe with a tactically aware manager we'd be in 4th place. Points dropped v the likes ofvRotherham and MK Dons are down to no plan b. Points dropped from winning positions v Burnley and Wednesday are down to him not being able to counteract opposition tactic changes.
I know we won yesterday but the strange substitutes could have cost us had we had any injuries. From memory we had 1 keeper, 1 defender, 1 midfielder and 4 attacking players. To me that's lunacy. The bench should have a full back, centre back, 2 midfielders and 2 attacking players. In the squad there should always be at least 1 academy product such as O'Sullivan or John.
Slade should not be given a new deal at end of season in my opinion.
That's fine Gareth, I did expect most to say I'd lost the plot
As you say, all about opinons

As for up and coming players, Oshilaja was on the bench to be fair.
Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:43 am
Slade has done a very good job under the circumstances Ned & I'm glad to say he's proved me & many others wrong
Long may it continue
Bluebirds
Sun Feb 28, 2016 12:04 pm
Definitely not a new contract yet. Slade has done well so far.. But there's still plenty more games to be played.... You'll never know.
Sun Feb 28, 2016 12:13 pm
I think we just might squeeze into that 6th place & on that basis he would deserve another season.
I would be truly amazed though if we did win the play offs.
Sun Feb 28, 2016 12:54 pm
Santa Ponsa Blue wrote:Slade has done a very good job under the circumstances Ned & I'm glad to say he's proved me & many others wrong
Long may it continue
Bluebirds

What circumstances ?
Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:50 pm
llan bluebird wrote:Santa Ponsa Blue wrote:Slade has done a very good job under the circumstances Ned & I'm glad to say he's proved me & many others wrong
Long may it continue
Bluebirds

What circumstances ?
Well he hasn't been given much support during the season & I admit I was one of them as I didn't think he was good enough. Also he did some good business in January, considering we had a transfer embargo. I have nothing but respect for Slade now for proving me & many others wrong

Let's hope it continues
Consistency is the key
Sun Feb 28, 2016 4:07 pm
Gareth (Wilts) wrote:Personally I think you are mad! All entitled to our opinions though. Slade has done a good job in terms of cutting losses and keeping a competitive squad. However he is tactically inept and his refusal to give youth a chance is baffling.
I believe with a tactically aware manager we'd be in 4th place. Points dropped v the likes ofvRotherham and MK Dons are down to no plan b. Points dropped from winning positions v Burnley and Wednesday are down to him not being able to counteract opposition tactic changes.
I know we won yesterday but the strange substitutes could have cost us had we had any injuries. From memory we had 1 keeper, 1 defender, 1 midfielder and 4 attacking players. To me that's lunacy. The bench should have a full back, centre back, 2 midfielders and 2 attacking players. In the squad there should always be at least 1 academy product such as O'Sullivan or John.
Slade should not be given a new deal at end of season in my opinion.
To be honest Gareth when analysing you have to take all circumstances into consideration. We know the Championship is a very unpredictable league and it is possible for any team at the bottom to take points off teams at the top. We have done the double over Wolves this season and beaten top teams like Middlesbrough and Brighton to even up the dropped points against Rotherham/MK Dons etc.
Looking at our overall record it shows Slade has done a good job in gelling the team together despite all the backroom distractions such as embargo's cost cutting and forced player sales.
Sun Feb 28, 2016 4:17 pm
Oh shit.
Sun Feb 28, 2016 4:17 pm
At least one year ore unless a manager of a high calibre/a good record of promotion registers interest in the job
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