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' Hmmm? The Jewish Chronicle Not happy with Cardiff Fans

Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:48 pm

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Cardiff City fans support signing of Dutch player banned for antisemitic chant


Board of Deputies vice-president Sheila Gewolb, who represents Cardiff United Synagogue, said: “The fact that Cardiff City have signed a footballer who has been banned for singing a virulently antisemitic song is a cause for concern.

By Josh Jackman,

January 26, 2016

A footballer who was suspended for leading fans in antisemitic chanting has joined Cardiff City - but Jewish communal leaders who support the club have welcomed the signing.
Lex Immers, a 29-year-old attacking midfielder owned by Dutch side Feyenoord, has joined Cardiff on loan until the end of the season.
In 2011 he was banned for five games after leading ADO Den Haag fans in a chant of “We're going to hunt for Jews” after beating Ajax, a side historically associated with the Jewish community.
He apologised for the incident afterwards, explaining that “when I sing ‘We’re going to hunt for Jews,’ I mean that we want to beat Ajax. Nothing more, nothing less. The slogan ‘We’re going to hunt for Jews’ seemed innocent.”

Board of Deputies vice-president Sheila Gewolb, who represents Cardiff United Synagogue, said: “The fact that Cardiff City have signed a footballer who has been banned for singing a virulently antisemitic song is a cause for concern.


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“However, the player has apparently apologised unreservedly for his actions and we hope that he has learned from the experience. He should be aware that in the UK we have zero tolerance for any type of racism both in football and in society in general and we hope his behaviour will reflect this.”
Similarly, Philip Kaye, the Honorary Consul for Israel and a Cardiff City fan, said that if the player has “apologised and served his ban, let’s move on. I’m not worried he’s going to do that again. I’m sure the young man’s learned his lesson, and that he will prove a very positive signing for Cardiff City.
“Let’s hope he scores the goals to help our push for the playoffs.”

Cardiff Jewish Representative Council chairman and Cardiff City season ticket holder, Stanley Soffa, said the antisemitic chanting was “in the past,” adding that the midfielder “got carried away.
“We want to judge him on the football field and not for something he did a few years ago, but we will obviously keep an eye on him.”


Former Cardiff manager Malky Mackay was investigated by the Football Association last year after sending messages to sporting director Iain Moody which included antisemitic, racist, sexist and homophobic remarks.
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Re: ' Hmmm? The Jewish Chronicle Not happy with Cardiff Fans

Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:51 pm

stupid thing to do but it was 5 years ago.


would they like him not to play football for the rest of his life as some sort of penance?

Re: ' Hmmm? The Jewish Chronicle Not happy with Cardiff Fans

Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:54 pm

What's done is done, he got banned for it so he should be free to play where he likes after he's served his ban.

Re: ' Hmmm? The Jewish Chronicle Not happy with Cardiff Fans

Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:55 pm

Everyone deserves another chance :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: ' Hmmm? The Jewish Chronicle Not happy with Cardiff Fans

Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:57 pm

Sheila Gewolb may believe there is zero tolerance to racist chanting but of course that depends who does the chanting. If your white then yes there is zero tolerance if your black or Muslim then you can call for the destruction of Israel anytime you like without sanction.

Re: ' Hmmm? The Jewish Chronicle Not happy with Cardiff Fans

Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:57 pm

I remember borat had a similar song called throw the Jews down the well :ayatollah:

Re: ' Hmmm? The Jewish Chronicle Not happy with Cardiff Fans

Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:00 pm

It's a pity no one speaks up for the Palestinians they are treated like sub humans :old:

Re: ' Hmmm? The Jewish Chronicle Not happy with Cardiff Fans

Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:00 pm

splott bluebird wrote:It's a pity no one speaks up for the Palestinians they are treated like sub humans :old:


Spot on :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: ' Hmmm? The Jewish Chronicle Not happy with Cardiff Fans

Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:04 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Everyone deserves another chance :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Do you extend that right to Tan and Slade?

Re: ' Hmmm? The Jewish Chronicle Not happy with Cardiff Fans

Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:06 pm

f**k them.

Re: ' Hmmm? The Jewish Chronicle Not happy with Cardiff Fans

Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:08 pm

angelis1949 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Everyone deserves another chance :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Do you extend that right to Tan and Slade?

Cannot remember Slade or Tan being done for Antisemitic chanting?

Do you like being awkward for awkwards sake?

Re: ' Hmmm? The Jewish Chronicle Not happy with Cardiff Fans

Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:09 pm

angelis1949 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Everyone deserves another chance :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Do you extend that right to Tan and Slade?



Yes I do.

Slade I always praise him if we play well.

Tan's had more than one chance, he's failed to deliver in his promises,treated us like naughty children,laughed at us,belittled us, put us in the worst debt in history etc etc

Re: ' Hmmm? The Jewish Chronicle Not happy with Cardiff Fans

Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:15 pm

norms76 wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Everyone deserves another chance :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Do you extend that right to Tan and Slade?

Cannot remember Slade or Tan being done for Antisemitic chanting?

Do you like being awkward for awkwards sake?

I was referring to people being given second chances, I do wish people would read my postings correctly

Re: ' Hmmm? The Jewish Chronicle Not happy with Cardiff Fans

Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:18 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Everyone deserves another chance :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Do you extend that right to Tan and Slade?



Yes I do.

Slade I always praise him if we play well.

Tan's had more than one chance, he's failed to deliver in his promises,treated us like naughty children,laughed at us,belittled us, put us in the worst debt in history etc etc

Thank you for your clarity, I only wish others on here would do the same

Re: ' Hmmm? The Jewish Chronicle Not happy with Cardiff Fans

Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:18 pm

angelis1949 wrote:
norms76 wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Everyone deserves another chance :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Do you extend that right to Tan and Slade?

Cannot remember Slade or Tan being done for Antisemitic chanting?

Do you like being awkward for awkwards sake?

I was referring to people being given second chances, I do wish people would read my postings correctly

I did, you didn't specify what you were getting at as this is about Lex Immers not Slade.

Your obsession with the man holds no bounds.

Re: ' Hmmm? The Jewish Chronicle Not happy with Cardiff Fans

Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:30 pm

norms76 wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:
norms76 wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Everyone deserves another chance :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Do you extend that right to Tan and Slade?

Cannot remember Slade or Tan being done for Antisemitic chanting?

Do you like being awkward for awkwards sake?

I was referring to people being given second chances, I do wish people would read my postings correctly

I did, you didn't specify what you were getting at as this is about Lex Immers not Slade.

Your obsession with the man holds no bounds.

Yes I do have an obsession,to make City a great force in British football once again, I hope you share that obsession, if you do you must realise that Tan and Slade will never give us what most City fans want

Re: ' Hmmm? The Jewish Chronicle Not happy with Cardiff Fans

Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:34 pm

He apologised and done his time, move on. Like we don't get upset when the English teams go on about us shagging sheep, all in a day's work, not taken to heart :)

Re: ' Hmmm? The Jewish Chronicle Not happy with Cardiff Fans

Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:34 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:Sheila Gewolb may believe there is zero tolerance to racist chanting but of course that depends who does the chanting. If your white then yes there is zero tolerance if your black or Muslim then you can call for the destruction of Israel anytime you like without sanction.

Totally agree

Re: ' Hmmm? The Jewish Chronicle Not happy with Cardiff Fans

Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:35 pm

splott bluebird wrote:It's a pity no one speaks up for the Palestinians they are treated like sub humans :old:

Was you Splott David in another life?

Re: ' Hmmm? The Jewish Chronicle Not happy with Cardiff Fans

Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:39 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
splott bluebird wrote:It's a pity no one speaks up for the Palestinians they are treated like sub humans :old:


Spot on :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Can you remind me if Hamas is a registered terrorist group?

Re: ' Hmmm? The Jewish Chronicle Not happy with Cardiff Fans

Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:41 pm

Oh well what a naughty boy give him a wrist band I say

Re: ' Hmmm? The Jewish Chronicle Not happy with Cardiff Fans

Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:42 pm

Oh well what a naughty boy give him a wrist band I say

Re: ' Hmmm? The Jewish Chronicle Not happy with Cardiff Fans

Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:49 pm

angelis1949 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
splott bluebird wrote:It's a pity no one speaks up for the Palestinians they are treated like sub humans :old:


Spot on :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Can you remind me if Hamas is a registered terrorist group?


Who mentioned Hamas?

We were talking about the Palestinians as a whole, you certainly know how to change every topic.



But Hamas has been voted in by the Palestinian people.

Re: ' Hmmm? The Jewish Chronicle Not happy with Cardiff Fans

Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:51 pm

splott bluebird wrote:I remember borat had a similar song called throw the Jews down the well :ayatollah:

Yes I'm sure your Splott David, if my memory serves me correctly you are a dedicated antisemitic and a terrorist apologist

Re: ' Hmmm? The Jewish Chronicle Not happy with Cardiff Fans

Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:14 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
splott bluebird wrote:It's a pity no one speaks up for the Palestinians they are treated like sub humans :old:


Spot on :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Can you remind me if Hamas is a registered terrorist group?


Who mentioned Hamas?

We were talking about the Palestinians as a whole, you certainly know how to change every topi

But Hamas has been voted in by the Palestinian people.

Yes they did vote into power, Hamas a terrorist organisation, I rest my case,there can be no justification for terrorism and I hope while you support the Palestinian people, which is something I can understand, you must make sure that you avoid the impression that you support Hama's,who wants to wipe Israel off the map

Re: ' Hmmm? The Jewish Chronicle Not happy with Cardiff Fans

Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:20 pm

angelis1949 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
splott bluebird wrote:It's a pity no one speaks up for the Palestinians they are treated like sub humans :old:


Spot on :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Can you remind me if Hamas is a registered terrorist group?


Who mentioned Hamas?

We were talking about the Palestinians as a whole, you certainly know how to change every topi

But Hamas has been voted in by the Palestinian people.

Yes they did vote into power, Hamas a terrorist organisation, I rest my case,there can be no justification for terrorism and I hope while you support the Palestinian people, which is something I can understand, you must make sure that you avoid the impression that you support Hama's,who wants to wipe Israel off the map



For me it seems Israel wants to wipe Palestine of the map.


I do not support any terrorist group or believe in anybody being killed, I wish we could all live in peace, but the Middle East will never live in peace,that sadly is the truth.

Re: ' Hmmm? The Jewish Chronicle Not happy with Cardiff Fans

Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:22 pm

Did you know that this country gives millions to the Palestinians and they have control of the budget. If they are in jail for terrorism they get paid about £2000 per month. This helps the terrorists family . This has now been stopped after investigation. :shock:

Re: ' Hmmm? The Jewish Chronicle Not happy with Cardiff Fans

Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:26 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
splott bluebird wrote:It's a pity no one speaks up for the Palestinians they are treated like sub humans :old:


Spot on :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Can you remind me if Hamas is a registered terrorist group?


Who mentioned Hamas?

We were talking about the Palestinians as a whole, you certainly know how to change every topi

But Hamas has been voted in by the Palestinian people.

Yes they did vote into power, Hamas a terrorist organisation, I rest my case,there can be no justification for terrorism and I hope while you support the Palestinian people, which is something I can understand, you must make sure that you avoid the impression that you support Hama's,who wants to wipe Israel off the map



For me it seems Israel wants to wipe Palestine of the map.


I do not support any terrorist group or believe in anybody being killed, I wish we could all live in peace, but the Middle East will never live in peace,that sadly is the truth.

I agree with the last part of your posting

Re: ' Hmmm? The Jewish Chronicle Not happy with Cardiff Fans

Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:27 pm

Actually wasn't it Hamas that said they would not rest until Israel was wiped off the map?

Re: ' Hmmm? The Jewish Chronicle Not happy with Cardiff Fans

Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:49 pm

taxi dai wrote:Oh well what a naughty boy give him a wrist band I say

:lol: