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Fickle

Tue Jan 19, 2016 11:40 am

Fickle is a word that is synonymous with football fans, and City fans are no stranger to that word,it was only just over a week ago when certain fans wanted to boil Slade's head and have it for breakfast with some toasted soldiers, now low and behold after just one victory albeit a good one,these same fans are now saying " give Slade more time",even some saying that he must be allowed to carry on till the end of the season, I dread to think what they would say if we beat Rotherham Saturday, freedom of the city perhaps, a knighthood, who knows, I myself have been consistent in saying from almost day one that Slade is simply not good enough at this level, and I must say I respect those who have consistently taken the opposite view to my own, even though I totally disagree with them, but the love him one day hate him the next bunch,I have no respect at all

Re: Fickle

Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:29 pm

angelis1949 wrote:Fickle is a word that is synonymous with football fans, and City fans are no stranger to that word,it was only just over a week ago when certain fans wanted to boil Slade's head and have it for breakfast with some toasted soldiers, now low and behold after just one victory albeit a good one,these same fans are now saying " give Slade more time",even some saying that he must be allowed to carry on till the end of the season, I dread to think what they would say if we beat Rotherham Saturday, freedom of the city perhaps, a knighthood, who knows, I myself have been consistent in saying from almost day one that Slade is simply not good enough at this level, and I must say I respect those who have consistently taken the opposite view to my own, even though I totally disagree with them, but the love him one day hate him the next bunch,I have no respect at all



all this is completely irrelevent unless you can point out posters who have changed their mind after this one game

Re: Fickle

Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:41 pm

angelis1949 wrote:Fickle is a word that is synonymous with football fans, and City fans are no stranger to that word,it was only just over a week ago when certain fans wanted to boil Slade's head and have it for breakfast with some toasted soldiers, now low and behold after just one victory albeit a good one,these same fans are now saying " give Slade more time",even some saying that he must be allowed to carry on till the end of the season, I dread to think what they would say if we beat Rotherham Saturday, freedom of the city perhaps, a knighthood, who knows, I myself have been consistent in saying from almost day one that Slade is simply not good enough at this level, and I must say I respect those who have consistently taken the opposite view to my own, even though I totally disagree with them, but the love him one day hate him the next bunch,I have no respect at all


U r fickle. Slate the team and manager constantly because we're not doing as well as we used to be without even considering everything going on around the club

Re: Fickle

Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:07 pm

Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:Fickle is a word that is synonymous with football fans, and City fans are no stranger to that word,it was only just over a week ago when certain fans wanted to boil Slade's head and have it for breakfast with some toasted soldiers, now low and behold after just one victory albeit a good one,these same fans are now saying " give Slade more time",even some saying that he must be allowed to carry on till the end of the season, I dread to think what they would say if we beat Rotherham Saturday, freedom of the city perhaps, a knighthood, who knows, I myself have been consistent in saying from almost day one that Slade is simply not good enough at this level, and I must say I respect those who have consistently taken the opposite view to my own, even though I totally disagree with them, but the love him one day hate him the next bunch,I have no respect at all


U r fickle. Slate the team and manager constantly because we're not doing as well as we used to be without even considering everything going on around the club

Tell me are you someone who has constantly supported Slade, if you have,I have nothing but respect for you

Re: Fickle

Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:20 pm

paulh_85 wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:Fickle is a word that is synonymous with football fans, and City fans are no stranger to that word,it was only just over a week ago when certain fans wanted to boil Slade's head and have it for breakfast with some toasted soldiers, now low and behold after just one victory albeit a good one,these same fans are now saying " give Slade more time",even some saying that he must be allowed to carry on till the end of the season, I dread to think what they would say if we beat Rotherham Saturday, freedom of the city perhaps, a knighthood, who knows, I myself have been consistent in saying from almost day one that Slade is simply not good enough at this level, and I must say I respect those who have consistently taken the opposite view to my own, even though I totally disagree with them, but the love him one day hate him the next bunch,I have no respect at all



all this is completely irrelevent unless you can point out posters who have changed their mind after this one game


Rydo :laughing6:

Im with Angelis. One good perfromance every 4 or 5 games doesnt change a thing.

Re: Fickle

Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:37 pm

Fickle isn't correct at all. It would be fickle if Slade had lost all of his previous games this season and only just now got a win and suddenly everybody loves him. But the fact is he's inconsistent, therefore the fans opinions will be inconsistent. If slade loses a game, then more people will be negative. If he wins a game that puts us in an arguably decent position to still challenge for the playoffs then people will be positive. It's not fickle. The only problem I have with this whole thing is posts like this. Why make a post criticising peoples opinions? Everyone has them, and everybody has the right to change them. None of us are experts, nobody is right, and nobody is wrong. But we all share our feelings and opinions that constantly SHOULD change. If your opinions and feelings don't change then maybe you are stubborn and purposely trying your best to block out any positivity or feelings you naturally may get. Maybe you've fallen out of love with the club and feel like being negative all the time, and if that's the case, why are you here.

Re: Fickle

Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:55 pm

angelis1949 wrote:
Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:Fickle is a word that is synonymous with football fans, and City fans are no stranger to that word,it was only just over a week ago when certain fans wanted to boil Slade's head and have it for breakfast with some toasted soldiers, now low and behold after just one victory albeit a good one,these same fans are now saying " give Slade more time",even some saying that he must be allowed to carry on till the end of the season, I dread to think what they would say if we beat Rotherham Saturday, freedom of the city perhaps, a knighthood, who knows, I myself have been consistent in saying from almost day one that Slade is simply not good enough at this level, and I must say I respect those who have consistently taken the opposite view to my own, even though I totally disagree with them, but the love him one day hate him the next bunch,I have no respect at all


U r fickle. Slate the team and manager constantly because we're not doing as well as we used to be without even considering everything going on around the club

Tell me are you someone who has constantly supported Slade, if you have,I have nothing but respect for you


Good. You are more than welcome to check. I've always backed him. I've never stated he's a great manager or anything like that but u will find I've supported him from day 1.

Re: Fickle

Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:56 pm

polo wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:Fickle is a word that is synonymous with football fans, and City fans are no stranger to that word,it was only just over a week ago when certain fans wanted to boil Slade's head and have it for breakfast with some toasted soldiers, now low and behold after just one victory albeit a good one,these same fans are now saying " give Slade more time",even some saying that he must be allowed to carry on till the end of the season, I dread to think what they would say if we beat Rotherham Saturday, freedom of the city perhaps, a knighthood, who knows, I myself have been consistent in saying from almost day one that Slade is simply not good enough at this level, and I must say I respect those who have consistently taken the opposite view to my own, even though I totally disagree with them, but the love him one day hate him the next bunch,I have no respect at all



all this is completely irrelevent unless you can point out posters who have changed their mind after this one game


Rydo :laughing6:

Polo, do you think that there's anything in this story that Slade actually got to pick the team and tactics himself for once? It sounded far fetched until I seen gabbidon confirm all the things Tan said as true. We were fantastic at wolves. good football mixed with 100% work rate. Keep that up and we'll be in the mix.

Im with Angelis. One good perfromance every 4 or 5 games doesnt change a thing.

Re: Fickle

Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:09 pm

polo wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:Fickle is a word that is synonymous with football fans, and City fans are no stranger to that word,it was only just over a week ago when certain fans wanted to boil Slade's head and have it for breakfast with some toasted soldiers, now low and behold after just one victory albeit a good one,these same fans are now saying " give Slade more time",even some saying that he must be allowed to carry on till the end of the season, I dread to think what they would say if we beat Rotherham Saturday, freedom of the city perhaps, a knighthood, who knows, I myself have been consistent in saying from almost day one that Slade is simply not good enough at this level, and I must say I respect those who have consistently taken the opposite view to my own, even though I totally disagree with them, but the love him one day hate him the next bunch,I have no respect at all



all this is completely irrelevent unless you can point out posters who have changed their mind after this one game


Rydo :laughing6:

Im with Angelis. One good perfromance every 4 or 5 games doesnt change a thing.



you are right, it doesnt, but i havent seen people changing their minds like angelis says there has been. rydog does it all the time, hes the only one though lol

Re: Fickle

Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:17 pm

Savigma wrote:Fickle isn't correct at all. It would be fickle if Slade had lost all of his previous games this season and only just now got a win and suddenly everybody loves him. But the fact is he's inconsistent, therefore the fans opinions will be inconsistent. If slade loses a game, then more people will be negative. If he wins a game that puts us in an arguably decent position to still challenge for the playoffs then people will be positive. It's not fickle. The only problem I have with this whole thing is posts like this. Why make a post criticising peoples opinions? Everyone has them, and everybody has the right to change them. None of us are experts, nobody is right, and nobody is wrong. But we all share our feelings and opinions that constantly SHOULD change. If your opinions and feelings don't change then maybe you are stubborn and purposely trying your best to block out any positivity or feelings you naturally may get. Maybe you've fallen out of love with the club and feel like being negative all the time, and if that's the case, why are you here.

You seem prone to make assumptions the biggest one being that I have falling out of love with City, which if you don't mind me saying, is nonsense, the people I have falling out of love with, is the management of the club, who if unchecked will lead us into the wilderness

Re: Fickle

Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:22 pm

angelis1949 wrote:
Savigma wrote:Fickle isn't correct at all. It would be fickle if Slade had lost all of his previous games this season and only just now got a win and suddenly everybody loves him. But the fact is he's inconsistent, therefore the fans opinions will be inconsistent. If slade loses a game, then more people will be negative. If he wins a game that puts us in an arguably decent position to still challenge for the playoffs then people will be positive. It's not fickle. The only problem I have with this whole thing is posts like this. Why make a post criticising peoples opinions? Everyone has them, and everybody has the right to change them. None of us are experts, nobody is right, and nobody is wrong. But we all share our feelings and opinions that constantly SHOULD change. If your opinions and feelings don't change then maybe you are stubborn and purposely trying your best to block out any positivity or feelings you naturally may get. Maybe you've fallen out of love with the club and feel like being negative all the time, and if that's the case, why are you here.

You seem prone to make assumptions the biggest one being that I have falling out of love with City, which if you don't mind me saying, is nonsense, the people I have falling out of love with, is the management of the club, who if unchecked will lead us into the wilderness


And if you want to pick on me apparently saying you've fallen out of love with City, then you'll also immediately pick on I said "If that is true", not assuming, just simply suggesting. And okay, you haven't fallen out of love with City. The rest of my post still stands as far as you seemingly not happy with people changing their opinions and calling them Fickle? It's just not as black and white as you evidently want it to be.

Re: Fickle

Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:52 pm

Savigma wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:
Savigma wrote:Fickle isn't correct at all. It would be fickle if Slade had lost all of his previous games this season and only just now got a win and suddenly everybody loves him. But the fact is he's inconsistent, therefore the fans opinions will be inconsistent. If slade loses a game, then more people will be negative. If he wins a game that puts us in an arguably decent position to still challenge for the playoffs then people will be positive. It's not fickle. The only problem I have with this whole thing is posts like this. Why make a post criticising peoples opinions? Everyone has them, and everybody has the right to change them. None of us are experts, nobody is right, and nobody is wrong. But we all share our feelings and opinions that constantly SHOULD change. If your opinions and feelings don't change then maybe you are stubborn and purposely trying your best to block out any positivity or feelings you naturally may get. Maybe you've fallen out of love with the club and feel like being negative all the time, and if that's the case, why are you here.

You seem prone to make assumptions the biggest one being that I have falling out of love with City, which if you don't mind me saying, is nonsense, the people I have falling out of love with, is the management of the club, who if unchecked will lead us into the wilderness


And if you want to pick on me apparently saying you've fallen out of love with City, then you'll also immediately pick on I said "If that is true", not assuming, just simply suggesting. And okay, you haven't fallen out of love with City. The rest of my post still stands as far as you seemingly not happy with people changing their opinions and calling them Fickle? It's just not as black and white as you evidently want it to be.

I'm not looking for anything black and white, just a constant opinion of views would be nice,and I just said I respect people who stick to there views more than people who change them constantly, if you think I'm picking on you,I apologise

Re: Fickle

Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:53 pm

The modern day fan only interested in name managers. Devolping a structure takes patience which most fans dont have. Fast food fans are the sky generation and are FICKLE AS FU...

Re: Fickle

Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:58 pm

angelis1949 wrote:Fickle is a word that is synonymous with football fans, and City fans are no stranger to that word,it was only just over a week ago when certain fans wanted to boil Slade's head and have it for breakfast with some toasted soldiers, now low and behold after just one victory albeit a good one,these same fans are now saying " give Slade more time",even some saying that he must be allowed to carry on till the end of the season, I dread to think what they would say if we beat Rotherham Saturday, freedom of the city perhaps, a knighthood, who knows, I myself have been consistent in saying from almost day one that Slade is simply not good enough at this level, and I must say I respect those who have consistently taken the opposite view to my own, even though I totally disagree with them, but the love him one day hate him the next bunch,I have no respect at all



Some people change their mind like the wind.

But what your saying is bollocks, it's not fickle to support a manager then after a while decide he's not the right one for long term and equally be against them and have them win you over.

Get off your high horse.

Re: Fickle

Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:09 pm

Savigma wrote:Fickle isn't correct at all. It would be fickle if Slade had lost all of his previous games this season and only just now got a win and suddenly everybody loves him. But the fact is he's inconsistent, therefore the fans opinions will be inconsistent. If slade loses a game, then more people will be negative. If he wins a game that puts us in an arguably decent position to still challenge for the playoffs then people will be positive. It's not fickle. The only problem I have with this whole thing is posts like this. Why make a post criticising peoples opinions? Everyone has them, and everybody has the right to change them. None of us are experts, nobody is right, and nobody is wrong. But we all share our feelings and opinions that constantly SHOULD change. If your opinions and feelings don't change then maybe you are stubborn and purposely trying your best to block out any positivity or feelings you naturally may get. Maybe you've fallen out of love with the club and feel like being negative all the time, and if that's the case, why are you here.



Very good points and well said!

Re: Fickle

Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:21 pm

nubbsy wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:Fickle is a word that is synonymous with football fans, and City fans are no stranger to that word,it was only just over a week ago when certain fans wanted to boil Slade's head and have it for breakfast with some toasted soldiers, now low and behold after just one victory albeit a good one,these same fans are now saying " give Slade more time",even some saying that he must be allowed to carry on till the end of the season, I dread to think what they would say if we beat Rotherham Saturday, freedom of the city perhaps, a knighthood, who knows, I myself have been consistent in saying from almost day one that Slade is simply not good enough at this level, and I must say I respect those who have consistently taken the opposite view to my own, even though I totally disagree with them, but the love him one day hate him the next bunch,I have no respect at all



Some people change their mind like the wind.

But what your saying is bollocks, it's not fickle to support a manager then after a while decide he's not the right one for long term and equally be against them and have them win you over.

Get off your high horse.

Oh dear,seemed to have hit a nerve

Re: Fickle

Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:22 pm

angelis1949 wrote:
Savigma wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:
Savigma wrote:Fickle isn't correct at all. It would be fickle if Slade had lost all of his previous games this season and only just now got a win and suddenly everybody loves him. But the fact is he's inconsistent, therefore the fans opinions will be inconsistent. If slade loses a game, then more people will be negative. If he wins a game that puts us in an arguably decent position to still challenge for the playoffs then people will be positive. It's not fickle. The only problem I have with this whole thing is posts like this. Why make a post criticising peoples opinions? Everyone has them, and everybody has the right to change them. None of us are experts, nobody is right, and nobody is wrong. But we all share our feelings and opinions that constantly SHOULD change. If your opinions and feelings don't change then maybe you are stubborn and purposely trying your best to block out any positivity or feelings you naturally may get. Maybe you've fallen out of love with the club and feel like being negative all the time, and if that's the case, why are you here.

You seem prone to make assumptions the biggest one being that I have falling out of love with City, which if you don't mind me saying, is nonsense, the people I have falling out of love with, is the management of the club, who if unchecked will lead us into the wilderness


And if you want to pick on me apparently saying you've fallen out of love with City, then you'll also immediately pick on I said "If that is true", not assuming, just simply suggesting. And okay, you haven't fallen out of love with City. The rest of my post still stands as far as you seemingly not happy with people changing their opinions and calling them Fickle? It's just not as black and white as you evidently want it to be.

I'm not looking for anything black and white, just a constant opinion of views would be nice,and I just said I respect people who stick to there views more than people who change them constantly, if you think I'm picking on you,I apologise


But in order to have a constant opinion of views then you are straight away disregarding the fact that you may feel differently 1 week to the other. You can't just make yourself "feel" a certain way. What you're asking for is for people to Lie or have a generic opinion based on everybody else. When in actual fact the people who change their minds HONESTLY are the ones who immediately come here after the game and give their views straight away without anybody influencing their mindset. Guarenteed throughout games you've had tons of different feelings, but by the end of it your reasonably thinking prevents you from changing your opinion, which is basically stupid. Why would you not naturally change your decision just because you want to be patient? I and many other fans are realistic enough to know there's bigger things in the world than football sometimes. For example, after a win everybody is over the top and think we're gonna win the league (Which is funny but it's fine, positive, and I don't see a problem with that mind set, if the club winning games makes people ambitious, naiive and happy, then so be it because it's just a sport at the end of the day...). Moving on to the loss though, the honest fans will naturally think negatively and will give a REAL HONEST opinion of how they feel at the time. THAT is what balences it out, you get genuine honesty no matter how positive after a win, or negative after a loss, it's a much more natural opinion than "Oh but I thought about it and because it logically makes sense to think this, I'm going to think this". I'm just saying how it is mate. As you should. But you shouldn't be criticising people changing their opinions all the time because that's what makes football exciting sometimes. Having a rant 1 week, and then an unexpected win and then loving the manager (For a few seconds). It's fun, nothing wrong with it.

Re: Fickle

Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:36 pm

Savigma wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:
Savigma wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:
Savigma wrote:Fickle isn't correct at all. It would be fickle if Slade had lost all of his previous games this season and only just now got a win and suddenly everybody loves him. But the fact is he's inconsistent, therefore the fans opinions will be inconsistent. If slade loses a game, then more people will be negative. If he wins a game that puts us in an arguably decent position to still challenge for the playoffs then people will be positive. It's not fickle. The only problem I have with this whole thing is posts like this. Why make a post criticising peoples opinions? Everyone has them, and everybody has the right to change them. None of us are experts, nobody is right, and nobody is wrong. But we all share our feelings and opinions that constantly SHOULD change. If your opinions and feelings don't change then maybe you are stubborn and purposely trying your best to block out any positivity or feelings you naturally may get. Maybe you've fallen out of love with the club and feel like being negative all the time, and if that's the case, why are you here.

You seem prone to make assumptions the biggest one being that I have falling out of love with City, which if you don't mind me saying, is nonsense, the people I have falling out of love with, is the management of the club, who if unchecked will lead us into the wilderness


And if you want to pick on me apparently saying you've fallen out of love with City, then you'll also immediately pick on I said "If that is true", not assuming, just simply suggesting. And okay, you haven't fallen out of love with City. The rest of my post still stands as far as you seemingly not happy with people changing their opinions and calling them Fickle? It's just not as black and white as you evidently want it to be.

I'm not looking for anything black and white, just a constant opinion of views would be nice,and I just said I respect people who stick to there views more than people who change them constantly, if you think I'm picking on you,I apologise


But in order to have a constant opinion of views then you are straight away disregarding the fact that you may feel differently 1 week to the other. You can't just make yourself "feel" a certain way. What you're asking for is for people to Lie or have a generic opinion based on everybody else. When in actual fact the people who change their minds HONESTLY are the ones who immediately come here after the game and give their views straight away without anybody influencing their mindset. Guarenteed throughout games you've had tons of different feelings, but by the end of it your reasonably thinking prevents you from changing your opinion, which is basically stupid. Why would you not naturally change your decision just because you want to be patient? I and many other fans are realistic enough to know there's bigger things in the world than football sometimes. For example, after a win everybody is over the top and think we're gonna win the league (Which is funny but it's fine, positive, and I don't see a problem with that mind set, if the club winning games makes people ambitious, naiive and happy, then so be it because it's just a sport at the end of the day...). Moving on to the loss though, the honest fans will naturally think negatively and will give a REAL HONEST opinion of how they feel at the time. THAT is what balences it out, you get genuine honesty no matter how positive after a win, or negative after a loss, it's a much more natural opinion than "Oh but I thought about it and because it logically makes sense to think this, I'm going to think this". I'm just saying how it is mate. As you should. But you shouldn't be criticising people changing their opinions all the time because that's what makes football exciting sometimes. Having a rant 1 week, and then an unexpected win and then loving the manager (For a few seconds). It's fun, nothing wrong with it.

There you go again with your assumptions I'm not asking people to lie,just have enough confidence in their opinions to stick with them longer than a day, may I offer you a piece of advice, get to know someone a little before making assumptions about them

Re: Fickle

Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:40 pm

angelis1949 wrote:
Savigma wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:
Savigma wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:
Savigma wrote:Fickle isn't correct at all. It would be fickle if Slade had lost all of his previous games this season and only just now got a win and suddenly everybody loves him. But the fact is he's inconsistent, therefore the fans opinions will be inconsistent. If slade loses a game, then more people will be negative. If he wins a game that puts us in an arguably decent position to still challenge for the playoffs then people will be positive. It's not fickle. The only problem I have with this whole thing is posts like this. Why make a post criticising peoples opinions? Everyone has them, and everybody has the right to change them. None of us are experts, nobody is right, and nobody is wrong. But we all share our feelings and opinions that constantly SHOULD change. If your opinions and feelings don't change then maybe you are stubborn and purposely trying your best to block out any positivity or feelings you naturally may get. Maybe you've fallen out of love with the club and feel like being negative all the time, and if that's the case, why are you here.

You seem prone to make assumptions the biggest one being that I have falling out of love with City, which if you don't mind me saying, is nonsense, the people I have falling out of love with, is the management of the club, who if unchecked will lead us into the wilderness


And if you want to pick on me apparently saying you've fallen out of love with City, then you'll also immediately pick on I said "If that is true", not assuming, just simply suggesting. And okay, you haven't fallen out of love with City. The rest of my post still stands as far as you seemingly not happy with people changing their opinions and calling them Fickle? It's just not as black and white as you evidently want it to be.

I'm not looking for anything black and white, just a constant opinion of views would be nice,and I just said I respect people who stick to there views more than people who change them constantly, if you think I'm picking on you,I apologise


But in order to have a constant opinion of views then you are straight away disregarding the fact that you may feel differently 1 week to the other. You can't just make yourself "feel" a certain way. What you're asking for is for people to Lie or have a generic opinion based on everybody else. When in actual fact the people who change their minds HONESTLY are the ones who immediately come here after the game and give their views straight away without anybody influencing their mindset. Guarenteed throughout games you've had tons of different feelings, but by the end of it your reasonably thinking prevents you from changing your opinion, which is basically stupid. Why would you not naturally change your decision just because you want to be patient? I and many other fans are realistic enough to know there's bigger things in the world than football sometimes. For example, after a win everybody is over the top and think we're gonna win the league (Which is funny but it's fine, positive, and I don't see a problem with that mind set, if the club winning games makes people ambitious, naiive and happy, then so be it because it's just a sport at the end of the day...). Moving on to the loss though, the honest fans will naturally think negatively and will give a REAL HONEST opinion of how they feel at the time. THAT is what balences it out, you get genuine honesty no matter how positive after a win, or negative after a loss, it's a much more natural opinion than "Oh but I thought about it and because it logically makes sense to think this, I'm going to think this". I'm just saying how it is mate. As you should. But you shouldn't be criticising people changing their opinions all the time because that's what makes football exciting sometimes. Having a rant 1 week, and then an unexpected win and then loving the manager (For a few seconds). It's fun, nothing wrong with it.

There you go again with your assumptions I'm not asking people to lie,just have enough confidence in their opinions to stick with them longer than a day, may I offer you a piece of advice, get to know someone a little before making assumptions about them


Every opinion I make, and I'm sure others make, we make with 100% confidence in what we're saying at the time. As I said, opinions change and if you can't accept that then keep making threads about it haha. Why is it we can make opinions on Players and change our mind every week with no problems, but when it comes down to Managers we have to either simply like him or loathe him? Why can't we criticise him and praise him? Like I said it's not black and white, and neither should it be. I wanted Noone dropped last week, but then he scored 2 screamers and got an assist and now he's the first person on my team sheet lol. Boom. Inconsistent opinion. Get over it.

Re: Fickle

Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:53 pm

Savigma wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:
Savigma wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:
Savigma wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:
Savigma wrote:Fickle isn't correct at all. It would be fickle if Slade had lost all of his previous games this season and only just now got a win and suddenly everybody loves him. But the fact is he's inconsistent, therefore the fans opinions will be inconsistent. If slade loses a game, then more people will be negative. If he wins a game that puts us in an arguably decent position to still challenge for the playoffs then people will be positive. It's not fickle. The only problem I have with this whole thing is posts like this. Why make a post criticising peoples opinions? Everyone has them, and everybody has the right to change them. None of us are experts, nobody is right, and nobody is wrong. But we all share our feelings and opinions that constantly SHOULD change. If your opinions and feelings don't change then maybe you are stubborn and purposely trying your best to block out any positivity or feelings you naturally may get. Maybe you've fallen out of love with the club and feel like being negative all the time, and if that's the case, why are you here.

You seem prone to make assumptions the biggest one being that I have falling out of love with City, which if you don't mind me saying, is nonsense, the people I have falling out of love with, is the management of the club, who if unchecked will lead us into the wilderness


And if you want to pick on me apparently saying you've fallen out of love with City, then you'll also immediately pick on I said "If that is true", not assuming, just simply suggesting. And okay, you haven't fallen out of love with City. The rest of my post still stands as far as you seemingly not happy with people changing their opinions and calling them Fickle? It's just not as black and white as you evidently want it to be.

I'm not looking for anything black and white, just a constant opinion of views would be nice,and I just said I respect people who stick to there views more than people who change them constantly, if you think I'm picking on you,I apologise


But in order to have a constant opinion of views then you are straight away disregarding the fact that you may feel differently 1 week to the other. You can't just make yourself "feel" a certain way. What you're asking for is for people to Lie or have a generic opinion based on everybody else. When in actual fact the people who change their minds HONESTLY are the ones who immediately come here after the game and give their views straight away without anybody influencing their mindset. Guarenteed throughout games you've had tons of different feelings, but by the end of it your reasonably thinking prevents you from changing your opinion, which is basically stupid. Why would you not naturally change your decision just because you want to be patient? I and many other fans are realistic enough to know there's bigger things in the world than football sometimes. For example, after a win everybody is over the top and think we're gonna win the league (Which is funny but it's fine, positive, and I don't see a problem with that mind set, if the club winning games makes people ambitious, naiive and happy, then so be it because it's just a sport at the end of the day...). Moving on to the loss though, the honest fans will naturally think negatively and will give a REAL HONEST opinion of how they feel at the time. THAT is what balences it out, you get genuine honesty no matter how positive after a win, or negative after a loss, it's a much more natural opinion than "Oh but I thought about it and because it logically makes sense to think this, I'm going to think this". I'm just saying how it is mate. As you should. But you shouldn't be criticising people changing their opinions all the time because that's what makes football exciting sometimes. Having a rant 1 week, and then an unexpected win and then loving the manager (For a few seconds). It's fun, nothing wrong with it.

There you go again with your assumptions I'm not asking people to lie,just have enough confidence in their opinions to stick with them longer than a day, may I offer you a piece of advice, get to know someone a little before making assumptions about them


Every opinion I make, and I'm sure others make, we make with 100% confidence in what we're saying at the time. As I said, opinions change and if you can't accept that then keep making threads about it haha. Why is it we can make opinions on Players and change our mind every week with no problems, but when it comes down to Managers we have to either simply like him or loathe him? Why can't we criticise him and praise him? Like I said it's not black and white, and neither should it be. I wanted Noone dropped last week, but then he scored 2 screamers and got an assist and now he's the first person on my team sheet lol. Boom. Inconsistent opinion. Get over it.[/quotwillI don't normally get into a long debate with anyone about one of my postings, but I can't resist the temptation to ask you this,does you're wil

Re: Fickle

Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:53 pm

Savigma wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:
Savigma wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:
Savigma wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:
Savigma wrote:Fickle isn't correct at all. It would be fickle if Slade had lost all of his previous games this season and only just now got a win and suddenly everybody loves him. But the fact is he's inconsistent, therefore the fans opinions will be inconsistent. If slade loses a game, then more people will be negative. If he wins a game that puts us in an arguably decent position to still challenge for the playoffs then people will be positive. It's not fickle. The only problem I have with this whole thing is posts like this. Why make a post criticising peoples opinions? Everyone has them, and everybody has the right to change them. None of us are experts, nobody is right, and nobody is wrong. But we all share our feelings and opinions that constantly SHOULD change. If your opinions and feelings don't change then maybe you are stubborn and purposely trying your best to block out any positivity or feelings you naturally may get. Maybe you've fallen out of love with the club and feel like being negative all the time, and if that's the case, why are you here.

You seem prone to make assumptions the biggest one being that I have falling out of love with City, which if you don't mind me saying, is nonsense, the people I have falling out of love with, is the management of the club, who if unchecked will lead us into the wilderness


And if you want to pick on me apparently saying you've fallen out of love with City, then you'll also immediately pick on I said "If that is true", not assuming, just simply suggesting. And okay, you haven't fallen out of love with City. The rest of my post still stands as far as you seemingly not happy with people changing their opinions and calling them Fickle? It's just not as black and white as you evidently want it to be.

I'm not looking for anything black and white, just a constant opinion of views would be nice,and I just said I respect people who stick to there views more than people who change them constantly, if you think I'm picking on you,I apologise


But in order to have a constant opinion of views then you are straight away disregarding the fact that you may feel differently 1 week to the other. You can't just make yourself "feel" a certain way. What you're asking for is for people to Lie or have a generic opinion based on everybody else. When in actual fact the people who change their minds HONESTLY are the ones who immediately come here after the game and give their views straight away without anybody influencing their mindset. Guarenteed throughout games you've had tons of different feelings, but by the end of it your reasonably thinking prevents you from changing your opinion, which is basically stupid. Why would you not naturally change your decision just because you want to be patient? I and many other fans are realistic enough to know there's bigger things in the world than football sometimes. For example, after a win everybody is over the top and think we're gonna win the league (Which is funny but it's fine, positive, and I don't see a problem with that mind set, if the club winning games makes people ambitious, naiive and happy, then so be it because it's just a sport at the end of the day...). Moving on to the loss though, the honest fans will naturally think negatively and will give a REAL HONEST opinion of how they feel at the time. THAT is what balences it out, you get genuine honesty no matter how positive after a win, or negative after a loss, it's a much more natural opinion than "Oh but I thought about it and because it logically makes sense to think this, I'm going to think this". I'm just saying how it is mate. As you should. But you shouldn't be criticising people changing their opinions all the time because that's what makes football exciting sometimes. Having a rant 1 week, and then an unexpected win and then loving the manager (For a few seconds). It's fun, nothing wrong with it.

There you go again with your assumptions I'm not asking people to lie,just have enough confidence in their opinions to stick with them longer than a day, may I offer you a piece of advice, get to know someone a little before making assumptions about them


Every opinion I make, and I'm sure others make, we make with 100% confidence in what we're saying at the time. As I said, opinions change and if you can't accept that then keep making threads about it haha. Why is it we can make opinions on Players and change our mind every week with no problems, but when it comes down to Managers we have to either simply like him or loathe him? Why can't we criticise him and praise him? Like I said it's not black and white, and neither should it be. I wanted Noone dropped last week, but then he scored 2 screamers and got an assist and now he's the first person on my team sheet lol. Boom. Inconsistent opinion. Get over it.[/quotwillI don't normally get into a long debate with anyone about one of my postings, but I can't resist the temptation to ask you this,does you're wil

Re: Fickle

Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:59 pm

Savigma wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:
Savigma wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:
Savigma wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:
Savigma wrote:Fickle isn't correct at all. It would be fickle if Slade had lost all of his previous games this season and only just now got a win and suddenly everybody loves him. But the fact is he's inconsistent, therefore the fans opinions will be inconsistent. If slade loses a game, then more people will be negative. If he wins a game that puts us in an arguably decent position to still challenge for the playoffs then people will be positive. It's not fickle. The only problem I have with this whole thing is posts like this. Why make a post criticising peoples opinions? Everyone has them, and everybody has the right to change them. None of us are experts, nobody is right, and nobody is wrong. But we all share our feelings and opinions that constantly SHOULD change. If your opinions and feelings don't change then maybe you are stubborn and purposely trying your best to block out any positivity or feelings you naturally may get. Maybe you've fallen out of love with the club and feel like being negative all the time, and if that's the case, why are you here.

You seem prone to make assumptions the biggest one being that I have falling out of love with City, which if you don't mind me saying, is nonsense, the people I have falling out of love with, is the management of the club, who if unchecked will lead us into the wilderness


And if you want to pick on me apparently saying you've fallen out of love with City, then you'll also immediately pick on I said "If that is true", not assuming, just simply suggesting. And okay, you haven't fallen out of love with City. The rest of my post still stands as far as you seemingly not happy with people changing their opinions and calling them Fickle? It's just not as black and white as you evidently want it to be.

I'm not looking for anything black and white, just a constant opinion of views would be nice,and I just said I respect people who stick to there views more than people who change them constantly, if you think I'm picking on you,I apologise


But in order to have a constant opinion of views then you are straight away disregarding the fact that you may feel differently 1 week to the other. You can't just make yourself "feel" a certain way. What you're asking for is for people to Lie or have a generic opinion based on everybody else. When in actual fact the people who change their minds HONESTLY are the ones who immediately come here after the game and give their views straight away without anybody influencing their mindset. Guarenteed throughout games you've had tons of different feelings, but by the end of it your reasonably thinking prevents you from changing your opinion, which is basically stupid. Why would you not naturally change your decision just because you want to be patient? I and many other fans are realistic enough to know there's bigger things in the world than football sometimes. For example, after a win everybody is over the top and think we're gonna win the league (Which is funny but it's fine, positive, and I don't see a problem with that mind set, if the club winning games makes people ambitious, naiive and happy, then so be it because it's just a sport at the end of the day...). Moving on to the loss though, the honest fans will naturally think negatively and will give a REAL HONEST opinion of how they feel at the time. THAT is what balences it out, you get genuine honesty no matter how positive after a win, or negative after a loss, it's a much more natural opinion than "Oh but I thought about it and because it logically makes sense to think this, I'm going to think this". I'm just saying how it is mate. As you should. But you shouldn't be criticising people changing their opinions all the time because that's what makes football exciting sometimes. Having a rant 1 week, and then an unexpected win and then loving the manager (For a few seconds). It's fun, nothing wrong with it.

There you go again with your assumptions I'm not asking people to lie,just have enough confidence in their opinions to stick with them longer than a day, may I offer you a piece of advice, get to know someone a little before making assumptions about them


Every opinion I make, and I'm sure others make, we make with 100% confidence in what we're saying at the time. As I said, opinions change and if you can't accept that then keep making threads about it haha. Why is it we can make opinions on Players and change our mind every week with no problems, but when it comes down to Managers we have to either simply like him or loathe him? Why can't we criticise him and praise him? Like I said it's not black and white, and neither should it be. I wanted Noone dropped last week, but then he scored 2 screamers and got an assist and now he's the first person on my team sheet lol. Boom. Inconsistent opinion. Get over it.[/quotwi. I don't normally get into a long debate with anyone about one of my postings, but I can't resist the temptation to ask you this,does you're willingness to change your opinions so readily apply to every day life or is just football?

Re: Fickle

Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:00 pm

still havent mentioned who all these people changing their minds are :lol:

Re: Fickle

Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:12 pm

paulh_85 wrote:still havent mentioned who all these people changing their minds are :lol:


:lol:

I don't think there are many, if any, that have changed their minds about Slade staying after one match.
I think it's more the fact that people are resigned to him now staying for the rest of the season. That's fine by me.
Looking forward to the next game to see if we can get the consistency that we desperately need.

Re: Fickle

Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:24 pm

paulh_85 wrote:still havent mentioned who all these people changing their minds are :lol:

I could say to many to mention but that would be disingenuous of me,so I will only say this in conclusion, there are people on here who's opinion is influenced simply by the last result be it win or lose,some people are flakey on both sides of the debate

Re: Fickle

Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:31 pm

angelis1949 wrote:
Savigma wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:
Savigma wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:
Savigma wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:
Savigma wrote:Fickle isn't correct at all. It would be fickle if Slade had lost all of his previous games this season and only just now got a win and suddenly everybody loves him. But the fact is he's inconsistent, therefore the fans opinions will be inconsistent. If slade loses a game, then more people will be negative. If he wins a game that puts us in an arguably decent position to still challenge for the playoffs then people will be positive. It's not fickle. The only problem I have with this whole thing is posts like this. Why make a post criticising peoples opinions? Everyone has them, and everybody has the right to change them. None of us are experts, nobody is right, and nobody is wrong. But we all share our feelings and opinions that constantly SHOULD change. If your opinions and feelings don't change then maybe you are stubborn and purposely trying your best to block out any positivity or feelings you naturally may get. Maybe you've fallen out of love with the club and feel like being negative all the time, and if that's the case, why are you here.

You seem prone to make assumptions the biggest one being that I have falling out of love with City, which if you don't mind me saying, is nonsense, the people I have falling out of love with, is the management of the club, who if unchecked will lead us into the wilderness


And if you want to pick on me apparently saying you've fallen out of love with City, then you'll also immediately pick on I said "If that is true", not assuming, just simply suggesting. And okay, you haven't fallen out of love with City. The rest of my post still stands as far as you seemingly not happy with people changing their opinions and calling them Fickle? It's just not as black and white as you evidently want it to be.

I'm not looking for anything black and white, just a constant opinion of views would be nice,and I just said I respect people who stick to there views more than people who change them constantly, if you think I'm picking on you,I apologise


But in order to have a constant opinion of views then you are straight away disregarding the fact that you may feel differently 1 week to the other. You can't just make yourself "feel" a certain way. What you're asking for is for people to Lie or have a generic opinion based on everybody else. When in actual fact the people who change their minds HONESTLY are the ones who immediately come here after the game and give their views straight away without anybody influencing their mindset. Guarenteed throughout games you've had tons of different feelings, but by the end of it your reasonably thinking prevents you from changing your opinion, which is basically stupid. Why would you not naturally change your decision just because you want to be patient? I and many other fans are realistic enough to know there's bigger things in the world than football sometimes. For example, after a win everybody is over the top and think we're gonna win the league (Which is funny but it's fine, positive, and I don't see a problem with that mind set, if the club winning games makes people ambitious, naiive and happy, then so be it because it's just a sport at the end of the day...). Moving on to the loss though, the honest fans will naturally think negatively and will give a REAL HONEST opinion of how they feel at the time. THAT is what balences it out, you get genuine honesty no matter how positive after a win, or negative after a loss, it's a much more natural opinion than "Oh but I thought about it and because it logically makes sense to think this, I'm going to think this". I'm just saying how it is mate. As you should. But you shouldn't be criticising people changing their opinions all the time because that's what makes football exciting sometimes. Having a rant 1 week, and then an unexpected win and then loving the manager (For a few seconds). It's fun, nothing wrong with it.

There you go again with your assumptions I'm not asking people to lie,just have enough confidence in their opinions to stick with them longer than a day, may I offer you a piece of advice, get to know someone a little before making assumptions about them


Every opinion I make, and I'm sure others make, we make with 100% confidence in what we're saying at the time. As I said, opinions change and if you can't accept that then keep making threads about it haha. Why is it we can make opinions on Players and change our mind every week with no problems, but when it comes down to Managers we have to either simply like him or loathe him? Why can't we criticise him and praise him? Like I said it's not black and white, and neither should it be. I wanted Noone dropped last week, but then he scored 2 screamers and got an assist and now he's the first person on my team sheet lol. Boom. Inconsistent opinion. Get over it.[/quotwi. I don't normally get into a long debate with anyone about one of my postings, but I can't resist the temptation to ask you this,does you're willingness to change your opinions so readily apply to every day life or is just football?

Because I made a right Horlicks in replying to you're posting I'm going to try again.......
Does your willingness to change your opinions regularly apply to every day life,or is it just football

Re: Fickle

Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:44 pm

angelis1949 wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:still havent mentioned who all these people changing their minds are :lol:

I could say to many to mention but that would be disingenuous of me,so I will only say this in conclusion, there are people on here who's opinion is influenced simply by the last result be it win or lose,some people are flakey on both sides of the debate



then you can give some examples.

its common to read things on here like "people said X, now the same people are saying Y" i havent seen any evidence of this with the exception of rydog who changes his mind like the wind

Re: Fickle

Tue Jan 19, 2016 5:40 pm

paulh_85 wrote:
angelis1949 wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:still havent mentioned who all these people changing their minds are :lol:

I could say to many to mention but that would be disingenuous of me,so I will only say this in conclusion, there are people on here who's opinion is influenced simply by the last result be it win or lose,some people are flakey on both sides of the debate



then you can give some examples.

its common to read things on here like "people said X, now the same people are saying Y" i havent seen any evidence of this with the exception of rydog who changes his mind like the wind

I refuse to name anyone because I have a simple mantra regarding postings on here,which is never to make it personal, which I wish some on here would follow my example, it will be interesting to see that if you do respond to this,whether you can resist personalise it

Re: Fickle

Tue Jan 19, 2016 5:45 pm

I have not changed my mind I'm still :sladeout: :lol:

Re: Fickle

Tue Jan 19, 2016 5:59 pm

If it was my club he would of been sacked long time ago, can't justify the signings he's made coupled with boring football.

That was the first time we've won a game +1.5 goals since???