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' Couldn't make Hull last night, but did go to Swansea '

Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:53 am

I couldn't make the Hull game last night but a mate gave me two season tickets to watch Swansea. I thought I'd go along and see what the experience is like.

Many won't like this but it's an honest view from a committed Cardiff supporter.

They may have problems in terms of league position but in just about every other aspect of last night they knock spots off us.

The stadium was full, the atmosphere was positive and enthusiastic, the effin football was certainly better (even though they lost). In fact the whole experience was well above what we are putting up with at the moment.

No need for any of our posters to tell me where to go after reading this. That's not the point!

My Saturday experience at the moment is mostly miserable with crap football, anti manager vibes, anti player vibes ( just look at the posts on Watt this morning now the deals in jeopardy), moaning about Tan, rubbish crowds, season ticket prices (almost better to be a causal visitor with deals being offered) and most of the local pubs closed. The flags which were supposed to help improve atmosphere are so small I've yet to spot one, despite looking out for them every game.

It just seems we can't get anything right at the moment. Is it just me or are we really at the lowest point we've been for a long, long time.

Re: Couldn't make Hull last night but did go to Swansea

Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:11 am

All down to slade. Need to sack him asap to turn the club around, sack slade and bring someone like bellamy in and everything will be sorted imo. Fans will have more patience with someone like bellamy than this clown slade.

Re: Couldn't make Hull last night but did go to Swansea

Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:12 am

No reason for anybody to tell you where to go, that's a decent and honest post.
At the moment it seems like we are miles apart on and off the pitch but we have to stick through it and hope things change slowly back to a decent match day experience.
Obviously, Slade should be the start of this process.

Re: Couldn't make Hull last night but did go to Swansea

Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:10 am

experience and football may be better but having been there the stadium is crap! well in stand i was in i hated it so small and seats fit for kids size! could go on but get my drift!.. :old:

Re: Couldn't make Hull last night but did go to Swansea

Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:45 pm

pembroke allan wrote:experience and football may be better but having been there the stadium is crap! well in stand i was in i hated it so small and seats fit for kids size! could go on but get my drift!.. :old:


You might possibly have hated it just because of who they are. The seats I were in had loads of room and we're high enough from the row in front to give a great view. Also I didn't experience my own personal bugbear at our stadium just now which is that, even though we're charged extra for dry seats, I get totally soaked every time it rains. That's down to the new Ninian roof which has left row upon row of the stand getting wet when we never did before. It hammered down in swansea last night and my seat was about the same distance back but I never got a hint of the rain. We score highly on our concourse space though which is huge compared to almost anywhere I've been.

Re: Couldn't make Hull last night but did go to Swansea

Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:08 pm

Skewett wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:experience and football may be better but having been there the stadium is crap! well in stand i was in i hated it so small and seats fit for kids size! could go on but get my drift!.. :old:


You might possibly have hated it just because of who they are. The seats I were in had loads of room and we're high enough from the row in front to give a great view. Also I didn't experience my own personal bugbear at our stadium just now which is that, even though we're charged extra for dry seats, I get totally soaked every time it rains. That's down to the new Ninian roof which has left row upon row of the stand getting wet when we never did before. It hammered down in swansea last night and my seat was about the same distance back but I never got a hint of the rain. We score highly on our concourse space though which is huge compared to almost anywhere I've been.



no as was at wales game but guess you were in different part ground to me! was a sardine with feet in my stomach it was cramped front and sides, and agree about wet im in row O get wet all time! :o

Re: Couldn't make Hull last night but did go to Swansea

Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:04 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Skewett wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:experience and football may be better but having been there the stadium is crap! well in stand i was in i hated it so small and seats fit for kids size! could go on but get my drift!.. :old:


You might possibly have hated it just because of who they are. The seats I were in had loads of room and we're high enough from the row in front to give a great view. Also I didn't experience my own personal bugbear at our stadium just now which is that, even though we're charged extra for dry seats, I get totally soaked every time it rains. That's down to the new Ninian roof which has left row upon row of the stand getting wet when we never did before. It hammered down in swansea last night and my seat was about the same distance back but I never got a hint of the rain. We score highly on our concourse space though which is huge compared to almost anywhere I've been.



no as was at wales game but guess you were in different part ground to me! was a sardine with feet in my stomach it was cramped front and sides, and agree about wet im in row O get wet all time! :o



I'm assuming you know that in row O you pay more than those just 2 rows in front. O is classified as dry seating. With the new roof you can be wet half a dozen rows back beyond O now as well. I'd like the club to acknowledge this and reduce our prices in line with the wet category seats.

Re: Couldn't make Hull last night but did go to Swansea

Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:27 pm

Skewett wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Skewett wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:experience and football may be better but having been there the stadium is crap! well in stand i was in i hated it so small and seats fit for kids size! could go on but get my drift!.. :old:


You might possibly have hated it just because of who they are. The seats I were in had loads of room and we're high enough from the row in front to give a great view. Also I didn't experience my own personal bugbear at our stadium just now which is that, even though we're charged extra for dry seats, I get totally soaked every time it rains. That's down to the new Ninian roof which has left row upon row of the stand getting wet when we never did before. It hammered down in swansea last night and my seat was about the same distance back but I never got a hint of the rain. We score highly on our concourse space though which is huge compared to almost anywhere I've been.



no as was at wales game but guess you were in different part ground to me! was a sardine with feet in my stomach it was cramped front and sides, and agree about wet im in row O get wet all time! :o


thanks keep eye on that for next season!


I'm assuming you know that in row O you pay more than those just 2 rows in front. O is classified as dry seating. With the new roof you can be wet half a dozen rows back beyond O now as well. I'd like the club to acknowledge this and reduce our prices in line with the wet category seats.

Re: ' Couldn't make Hull last night, but did go to Swansea '

Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:48 pm

An interesting post. I admire your honesty and you've summed up the current state of our club perfectly. But we have to look forward and stick together and better times will come. We've been through tougher eras and come out the other side and we'll do it this time too.
:ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: ' Couldn't make Hull last night, but did go to Swansea '

Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:00 pm

I know everyone's different but I wouldn't go to a Swansea match if I got paid.

Just wouldn't be able too.

What did you do when they scored?

Prem club so one would expect higher standards

Re: ' Couldn't make Hull last night, but did go to Swansea '

Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:12 pm

Skewett

Your just a fuckin.....

Nah
:D

Swansea fans are very similar to Cardiff fans

The way those two sets of fans have been treated by their respective clubs is totally different, and has been for years.

If roles reversed, the same would happen.

They have a swansea fan in jenkins - we have tan
they have a swansea legend and well known footballer in curtis - we have slade
they have relaxed attitude to standing - we have nash
they are in premier league - we are not
their stadium is enclosed roof - we get pissed on
they have better players in many positions - we have revell, macheda, ameobi, connelly etc etc
they play a decent football - we play parks level (only slower)

only 1 or 2 items of the above need to change to start getting us back together
:bluescarf:

Re: ' Couldn't make Hull last night, but did go to Swansea '

Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:03 pm

Their stadium is guna be full they are in the prem and still punching above their weight.

The difference between our clubs is that even when they were on the up they got treated like they were appreciated by their club. For example the £20 max for away games. We got treated like dirt and tan spoke about us like replaceable statistics and now he's reaping his f*cking ignorance.

Re: ' Couldn't make Hull last night, but did go to Swansea '

Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:10 pm

Only what I would expect. The club has killed our atmosphere and Slade has killed our football and Tan has killed our Club.

Re: ' Couldn't make Hull last night, but did go to Swansea '

Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:46 pm

Skewett wrote:I couldn't make the Hull game last night but a mate gave me two season tickets to watch Swansea. I thought I'd go along and see what the experience is like.

Many won't like this but it's an honest view from a committed Cardiff supporter.

They may have problems in terms of league position but in just about every other aspect of last night they knock spots off us.

The stadium was full, the atmosphere was positive and enthusiastic, the effin football was certainly better (even though they lost). In fact the whole experience was well above what we are putting up with at the moment.

No need for any of our posters to tell me where to go after reading this. That's not the point!

My Saturday experience at the moment is mostly miserable with crap football, anti manager vibes, anti player vibes ( just look at the posts on Watt this morning now the deals in jeopardy), moaning about Tan, rubbish crowds, season ticket prices (almost better to be a causal visitor with deals being offered) and most of the local pubs closed. The flags which were supposed to help improve atmosphere are so small I've yet to spot one, despite looking out for them every game.

It just seems we can't get anything right at the moment. Is it just me or are we really at the lowest point we've been for a long, long time.

They've just had five seasons in the premiership what would you expect for a tinpot fourth division team punching miles above their weight for years????

Go back when they drop back down a few divisions and see what it's like then !!!

Re: ' Couldn't make Hull last night, but did go to Swansea '

Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:50 pm

nubbsy wrote:Their stadium is guna be full they are in the prem and still punching above their weight.

The difference between our clubs is that even when they were on the up they got treated like they were appreciated by their club. For example the £20 max for away games. We got treated like dirt and tan spoke about us like replaceable statistics and now he's reaping his f*cking ignorance.



I didn't know about that £20 cap on away tickets. I'd appreciate a gesture like that as I go to loads of away games.

Re: ' Couldn't make Hull last night, but did go to Swansea '

Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:50 pm

So basically u could've made the Hull game but didn't want to pay the money and put up with the long travel so u would rather take 2 freebies and watch The Jacks and feedback your thoughts to us.

So in sumising No One gives a Toss about what the Gypos are doing as they will be with us soon enough

Re: ' Couldn't make Hull last night, but did go to Swansea '

Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:20 pm

Davedingbluebird wrote:So basically u could've made the Hull game but didn't want to pay the money and put up with the long travel so u would rather take 2 freebies and watch The Jacks and feedback your thoughts to us.

So in sumising No One gives a Toss about what the Gypos are doing as they will be with us soon enough


Obviously they do. Just look at the numberof posts and threads on this forum.
Just because people on here discuss their situation doesn't mean they're fans of them

Re: ' Couldn't make Hull last night, but did go to Swansea '

Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:39 pm

NIBluebird wrote:I know everyone's different but I wouldn't go to a Swansea match if I got paid.

Just wouldn't be able too.

What did you do when they scored?

Prem club so one would expect higher standards


Agree with this. Each to their own but i can't understand you doing this skewett to be honest.

Re: ' Couldn't make Hull last night, but did go to Swansea '

Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:39 pm

Skewett wrote:The stadium was full, the atmosphere was positive and enthusiastic, the effin football was certainly better (even though they lost). In fact the whole experience was well above what we are putting up with at the moment.


If we were in the Premier League for 5 years, playing good football, then we'd be exactly the same?

The reason we're at a really bad point in Cardiff City's history right now, is because the football hasn't been good enough, tactics, management, signings, ownership, have all been very bad at CCFC.

Whereas, the gypos have had it easy the last decade. Would make my f*cking year if they went down. :ayatollah:

Re: ' Couldn't make Hull last night, but did go to Swansea '

Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:51 pm

If the Jacks were outside the play offs in the Championship, they too would be down to crowds of 13,000.

It's all about success. They're literally clinging on to whatever they have left now. Once they go down everything will change for them just like it did for us.

Re: ' Couldn't make Hull last night, but did go to Swansea '

Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:53 pm

lathamgaffney wrote:
Skewett wrote:The stadium was full, the atmosphere was positive and enthusiastic, the effin football was certainly better (even though they lost). In fact the whole experience was well above what we are putting up with at the moment.


If we were in the Premier League for 5 years, playing good football, then we'd be exactly the same?

The reason we're at a really bad point in Cardiff City's history right now, is because the football hasn't been good enough, tactics, management, signings, ownership, have all been very bad at CCFC.

Whereas, the gypos have had it easy the last decade. Would make my f*cking year if they went down. :ayatollah:

Spot on, they've been very lucky to have had what they've had these past 5 years

Re: ' Couldn't make Hull last night, but did go to Swansea '

Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:57 pm

Couldn't agree more, if they do come down, they will slaughter us next season, we are totally shambles at the moment and unless saction is taken quickly we will be lucky to get 10,000 next season :ayatollah:

Re: ' Couldn't make Hull last night, but did go to Swansea '

Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:22 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
lathamgaffney wrote:
Skewett wrote:The stadium was full, the atmosphere was positive and enthusiastic, the effin football was certainly better (even though they lost). In fact the whole experience was well above what we are putting up with at the moment.


If we were in the Premier League for 5 years, playing good football, then we'd be exactly the same?

The reason we're at a really bad point in Cardiff City's history right now, is because the football hasn't been good enough, tactics, management, signings, ownership, have all been very bad at CCFC.

Whereas, the gypos have had it easy the last decade. Would make my f*cking year if they went down. :ayatollah:

Spot on, they've been very lucky to have had what they've had these past 5 years



Define how the swans remaining in the prem for 5 years is lucky?

Re: ' Couldn't make Hull last night, but did go to Swansea '

Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:35 pm

JonCCFC wrote:If the Jacks were outside the play offs in the Championship, they too would be down to crowds of 13,000.

It's all about success. They're literally clinging on to whatever they have left now. Once they go down everything will change for them just like it did for us.



It will take them like us two season to go back to core fans which will probably be 10~11K. They may have held on to their new fans, as we have done. Its the old school that have deserted us.

Re: ' Couldn't make Hull last night, but did go to Swansea '

Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:48 pm

NIBluebird wrote:I know everyone's different but I wouldn't go to a Swansea match if I got paid.

Just wouldn't be able too.

What did you do when they scored?

Prem club so one would expect higher standards

Id love to have been at the Liberty last night. Watching the game on match of the day was comedy gold.

Re: ' Couldn't make Hull last night, but did go to Swansea '

Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:48 pm

Skewett wrote:
nubbsy wrote:Their stadium is guna be full they are in the prem and still punching above their weight.

The difference between our clubs is that even when they were on the up they got treated like they were appreciated by their club. For example the £20 max for away games. We got treated like dirt and tan spoke about us like replaceable statistics and now he's reaping his f*cking ignorance.



I didn't know about that £20 cap on away tickets. I'd appreciate a gesture like that as I go to loads of away games.



Yeah and it clearly is far more genuine than 'oh shit no one is turning up let's offer them some cheap tickets'. So tbh all this #ourcityisblue bollocks and cheap ticket offers can suck my dick, it's too little too late.

Re: ' Couldn't make Hull last night, but did go to Swansea '

Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:56 pm

JonCCFC wrote:If the Jacks were outside the play offs in the Championship, they too would be down to crowds of 13,000.

It's all about success. They're literally clinging on to whatever they have left now. Once they go down everything will change for them just like it did for us.

Surely no one can argue with this. But they need to go down first.

Re: ' Couldn't make Hull last night, but did go to Swansea '

Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:00 pm

JonCCFC wrote:If the Jacks were outside the play offs in the Championship, they too would be down to crowds of 13,000.

It's all about success. They're literally clinging on to whatever they have left now. Once they go down everything will change for them just like it did for us.


We were outside the play-offs for the majority of our 3 seasons in the Championship. We never averaged 13,000. I think the average was 15,000+.

Re: ' Couldn't make Hull last night, but did go to Swansea '

Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:10 pm

Bowie wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:If the Jacks were outside the play offs in the Championship, they too would be down to crowds of 13,000.

It's all about success. They're literally clinging on to whatever they have left now. Once they go down everything will change for them just like it did for us.


We were outside the play-offs for the majority of our 3 seasons in the Championship. We never averaged 13,000. I think the average was 15,000+.

Roathie is back.

You were giving away tickets with tesco club card vouchers as your crowds were poor.

Re: ' Couldn't make Hull last night, but did go to Swansea '

Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:10 pm

Bowie wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:If the Jacks were outside the play offs in the Championship, they too would be down to crowds of 13,000.

It's all about success. They're literally clinging on to whatever they have left now. Once they go down everything will change for them just like it did for us.


We were outside the play-offs for the majority of our 3 seasons in the Championship. We never averaged 13,000. I think the average was 15,000+.

First year in the championship 2008 your average was 13,520. After that was 15,000 so success does bring the fans in.

6 years before that you were averaging 3,690 then you started getting some joy so the crowds got bigger, same as any club.

The jacks are no different.