The curious case of Peter Whittingham

Reading lots on here over past season saying whitts is past it.

All I can say is it's wrong. When Whitts was in his prime 3 years ago he was in central midfield and had quality players around him. He had the likes of McCormack, chopra, bothroyd and Bellamy ahead of him who all had the intelligence to create space with movement and pace. For all Dave Jones faults he got the team playing attacking football that gave creative players the chance to flourish. Even under Mackay whitts still scored and created goals despite less attractive football. Again he had some good players ahead of him to give him space. Under both managers he was allowed to play killer passes and set up numerous goals as well as score a fair few. The last year he has had slades dire tactics with poor players like revell and lazy Jones ahead and a serious lack of pace around him.

If Slade goes and is replaced by a more attack minded coach then whitts still has a future at ccfc. If Slade stays he'd better pack his bags.

What do others think?

Slade will be going before Whitts.

Still think Whitts is usually played out of position. Usually see him just in front of the defenders, why? He's not a defensive midfielder, he's a creative midfielder. Play him just behind the forwards in a 4 4 2 diamond or in a 4 1 3 2 .

Well said Chief. Can't argue with that

Well said Chief. Can't argue with that

I'm always right.

Reading lots on here over past season saying whitts is past it.

All I can say is it's wrong. When Whitts was in his prime 3 years ago he was in central midfield and had quality players around him. He had the likes of McCormack, chopra, bothroyd and Bellamy ahead of him who all had the intelligence to create space with movement and pace. For all Dave Jones faults he got the team playing attacking football that gave creative players the chance to flourish. Even under Mackay whitts still scored and created goals despite less attractive football. Again he had some good players ahead of him to give him space. Under both managers he was allowed to play killer passes and set up numerous goals as well as score a fair few. The last year he has had slades dire tactics with poor players like revell and lazy Jones ahead and a serious lack of pace around him.

If Slade goes and is replaced by a more attack minded coach then whitts still has a future at ccfc. If Slade stays he'd better pack his bags.

What do others think?

I am a critic of whitts but i do get he is out of position,but how do you explain so many poor corners and free kicks..?...and he seems to slow a game down and why does he not run with the ball..?

Still think Whitts is usually played out of position. Usually see him just in front of the defenders, why? He's not a defensive midfielder, he's a creative midfielder. Play him just behind the forwards in a 4 4 2 diamond or in a 4 1 3 2 .

Spot on tactics are shit whitts is out of position and a limited supply to strikers.

Reading lots on here over past season saying whitts is past it.

All I can say is it's wrong. When Whitts was in his prime 3 years ago he was in central midfield and had quality players around him. He had the likes of McCormack, chopra, bothroyd and Bellamy ahead of him who all had the intelligence to create space with movement and pace. For all Dave Jones faults he got the team playing attacking football that gave creative players the chance to flourish. Even under Mackay whitts still scored and created goals despite less attractive football. Again he had some good players ahead of him to give him space. Under both managers he was allowed to play killer passes and set up numerous goals as well as score a fair few. The last year he has had slades dire tactics with poor players like revell and lazy Jones ahead and a serious lack of pace around him.

If Slade goes and is replaced by a more attack minded coach then whitts still has a future at ccfc. If Slade stays he'd better pack his bags.

What do others think?

I am a critic of whitts but i do get he is out of position,but how do you explain so many poor corners and free kicks..?...and he seems to slow a game down and why does he not run with the ball..?

Confidence is low because of way he is being used.

Our set pieces are dire as well. No movement and I sometimes wonder whether we practice them.

Reading lots on here over past season saying whitts is past it.

All I can say is it's wrong. When Whitts was in his prime 3 years ago he was in central midfield and had quality players around him. He had the likes of McCormack, chopra, bothroyd and Bellamy ahead of him who all had the intelligence to create space with movement and pace. For all Dave Jones faults he got the team playing attacking football that gave creative players the chance to flourish. Even under Mackay whitts still scored and created goals despite less attractive football. Again he had some good players ahead of him to give him space. Under both managers he was allowed to play killer passes and set up numerous goals as well as score a fair few. The last year he has had slades dire tactics with poor players like revell and lazy Jones ahead and a serious lack of pace around him.

If Slade goes and is replaced by a more attack minded coach then whitts still has a future at ccfc. If Slade stays he'd better pack his bags.

What do others think?

I am a critic of whitts but i do get he is out of position,but how do you explain so many poor corners and free kicks..?...and he seems to slow a game down and why does he not run with the ball..?

Reading lots on here over past season saying whitts is past it.

All I can say is it's wrong. When Whitts was in his prime 3 years ago he was in central midfield and had quality players around him. He had the likes of McCormack, chopra, bothroyd and Bellamy ahead of him who all had the intelligence to create space with movement and pace. For all Dave Jones faults he got the team playing attacking football that gave creative players the chance to flourish. Even under Mackay whitts still scored and created goals despite less attractive football. Again he had some good players ahead of him to give him space. Under both managers he was allowed to play killer passes and set up numerous goals as well as score a fair few. The last year he has had slades dire tactics with poor players like revell and lazy Jones ahead and a serious lack of pace around him.

If Slade goes and is replaced by a more attack minded coach then whitts still has a future at ccfc. If Slade stays he'd better pack his bags.

What do others think?

I am a critic of whitts but i do get he is out of position,but how do you explain so many poor corners and free kicks..?...and he seems to slow a game down and why does he not run with the ball..?

Could be a confidence thing and the frustration of having to listen to shit instructions from a shit boss, and being played out of position.

I'm a big Whitts fan but he was poor last night , a slight improvement when he moved inside but still poor for me
The game last night was a shocker and I think Slade has lost the dressing room
I hear it so many times that we have a good squad but the crux of the matter is the players don't rate the manager and coaching staff who for me are the weakest I can remember at the club , what pedigree do they have , all lower league stuff

Reading lots on here over past season saying whitts is past it.

All I can say is it's wrong. When Whitts was in his prime 3 years ago he was in central midfield and had quality players around him. He had the likes of McCormack, chopra, bothroyd and Bellamy ahead of him who all had the intelligence to create space with movement and pace. For all Dave Jones faults he got the team playing attacking football that gave creative players the chance to flourish. Even under Mackay whitts still scored and created goals despite less attractive football. Again he had some good players ahead of him to give him space. Under both managers he was allowed to play killer passes and set up numerous goals as well as score a fair few. The last year he has had slades dire tactics with poor players like revell and lazy Jones ahead and a serious lack of pace around him.

If Slade goes and is replaced by a more attack minded coach then whitts still has a future at ccfc. If Slade stays he'd better pack his bags.

What do others think?

I am a critic of whitts but i do get he is out of position,but how do you explain so many poor corners and free kicks..?...and he seems to slow a game down and why does he not run with the ball..?

Could be a confidence thing and the frustration of having to listen to shit instructions from a shit boss, and being played out of position.

Or maybe he's just not got it any more ,comfort zone ,will see out his contract with us and then retire ,don't see him being a starter for us any time soon ,unless we get unlucky with injuries ,if we have to have strikers like chopra or bothroyd or mc cormac cost 11million didn't he when he signed for Fulham ,we don't have the money to get the 3/4 players we would need just to bring out the best of whitts ,IMO get rid of whitts now and save the money he's on 20k+ a week ffs

'Dick,' is sadly past it. He's had his time in the limelight and I've enjoyed watching him, but for 3 years has been living on his good seasons. Its harsh but its a fact. I wish him no harm. He has been a good servant and left many good memories but its time to move on. Even against Shrewsbury he didn't stand out.


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Reading lots on here over past season saying whitts is past it.

All I can say is it's wrong. When Whitts was in his prime 3 years ago he was in central midfield and had quality players around him. He had the likes of McCormack, chopra, bothroyd and Bellamy ahead of him who all had the intelligence to create space with movement and pace. For all Dave Jones faults he got the team playing attacking football that gave creative players the chance to flourish. Even under Mackay whitts still scored and created goals despite less attractive football. Again he had some good players ahead of him to give him space. Under both managers he was allowed to play killer passes and set up numerous goals as well as score a fair few. The last year he has had slades dire tactics with poor players like revell and lazy Jones ahead and a serious lack of pace around him.

If Slade goes and is replaced by a more attack minded coach then whitts still has a future at ccfc. If Slade stays he'd better pack his bags.

What do others think?

Can't disagree with any of that, Gareth

I said elsewhere on here today that certain players are being made to look poorer than they are because of what they have around them...and Whitts (for me) comes into that category, i.e. someone who needs/expects those around him to be a yard quicker in their thinking!

Reading lots on here over past season saying whitts is past it.

All I can say is it's wrong. When Whitts was in his prime 3 years ago he was in central midfield and had quality players around him. He had the likes of McCormack, chopra, bothroyd and Bellamy ahead of him who all had the intelligence to create space with movement and pace. For all Dave Jones faults he got the team playing attacking football that gave creative players the chance to flourish. Even under Mackay whitts still scored and created goals despite less attractive football. Again he had some good players ahead of him to give him space. Under both managers he was allowed to play killer passes and set up numerous goals as well as score a fair few. The last year he has had slades dire tactics with poor players like revell and lazy Jones ahead and a serious lack of pace around him.

If Slade goes and is replaced by a more attack minded coach then whitts still has a future at ccfc. If Slade stays he'd better pack his bags.

What do others think?

You have to face reality which is Whittingham is passed his best

Reading lots on here over past season saying whitts is past it.

All I can say is it's wrong. When Whitts was in his prime 3 years ago he was in central midfield and had quality players around him. He had the likes of McCormack, chopra, bothroyd and Bellamy ahead of him who all had the intelligence to create space with movement and pace. For all Dave Jones faults he got the team playing attacking football that gave creative players the chance to flourish. Even under Mackay whitts still scored and created goals despite less attractive football. Again he had some good players ahead of him to give him space. Under both managers he was allowed to play killer passes and set up numerous goals as well as score a fair few. The last year he has had slades dire tactics with poor players like revell and lazy Jones ahead and a serious lack of pace around him.

If Slade goes and is replaced by a more attack minded coach then whitts still has a future at ccfc. If Slade stays he'd better pack his bags.

What do others think?

You have to face reality which is Whittingham is passed his best

The answer could be as simple as what you have said. However his decline in my opinion is down to Slade and crap tactics. All about opinions.

There's an interesting match report on here that says
Whitts was one of the better players last night. Took my grandsons and the thing the seven year old was most happy about was saying hello to Damon Searle. .

Get used to him. Hell be here when he's 60!

There's an interesting match report on here that says
Whitts was one of the better players last night. Took my grandsons and the thing the seven year old was most happy about was saying hello to Damon Searle. .

And then you woke up?

If watch him closely he is always looking to play that killer pass, however the players in front of him are not on the same wave length, with exception of Watt, I do find find it a bit sad that he is getting so much stick, and i will be the first to admit, he is not the same player as years gone by, but he will always give 100%. He deserves our respect

I was critical of him last night, mainly for lack of effort, however he really shouldn't have been playing.
Out of position on a heavy pitch, he looked lost first half, with Macheda coming over to cover the left whilst Whitts drifted inside.
It wasn't a game for him, on a surface like that against a L1 side you needed to load up with workers and battlers, especially as he had no pace in front of him.
Kennedy should have started and was a rare bright spot when he came on.

If watch him closely he is always looking to play that killer pass, however the players in front of him are not on the same wave length, with exception of Watt, I do find find it a bit sad that he is getting so much stick, and i will be the first to admit, he is not the same player as years gone by, but he will always give 100%. He deserves our respect

I watch him closely too and players in front of him are also looking for him to play that killer pass. By the time hes seen it its dead!

I was critical of him last night, mainly for lack of effort, however he really shouldn't have been playing.
Out of position on a heavy pitch, he looked lost first half, with Macheda coming over to cover the left whilst Whitts drifted inside.
It wasn't a game for him, on a surface like that against a L1 side you needed to load up with workers and battlers, especially as he had no pace in front of him.
Kennedy should have started and was a rare bright spot when he came on.

I have to say Tim in his defence, I saw no lack of effort from the poor bloke last night. He always tries his best in my opinion.

Makes me laugh how people are saying Whittingham is getting played in the wrong position. He played on the left yesterday and had a shocker, he's been played in the middle the majority of this season and he's struggled.

He's getting on, his legs can't move him into the dangerous positions he was once able to move into, he's physically weak, has no pace, can't track back, can't tackle and although he's still quality on the ball at this level, he can only create from a dead ball these days. Whittingham is finished and we need to move on if we want to progress.

People will think I'm being harsh, but the reality is we will never sustain a consistent run of results to challenge for promotion with Peter Whittingham a regular in the team. We can just about get away with Whittingham in a middle 3, but in the 4-4-2 we are currently playing, Whittingham is a passenger. Opposing centre midfielders are simply too mobile and dynamic for him.

I was critical of him last night, mainly for lack of effort, however he really shouldn't have been playing.
Out of position on a heavy pitch, he looked lost first half, with Macheda coming over to cover the left whilst Whitts drifted inside.
It wasn't a game for him, on a surface like that against a L1 side you needed to load up with workers and battlers, especially as he had no pace in front of him.
Kennedy should have started and was a rare bright spot when he came on.

Hey by the way, do you happen to be the Tim whose friends with Sion and Sam Greenaway?

Wide awake City slicker, Damon Searle was there yesterday.Said hello to our little lads who were well impressed that he was once a City player.

Wide awake City slicker, Damoit mate Searle was there yesterday.Said hello to our little lads who were well impressed that he was once a City player.

Yes good bloke Damon! Glad your kids enjoyed It mate

The little one told his mum Cardiff won 3 1. The eldest liked the drum and the pie. Not much entertainment on the pitch.
As to Peter Whittingham I think he's been a great player for us. Given the chance with a manager who plays to his strengths I'm sure he will be again.

The little one told his mum Cardiff won 3 1. The eldest liked the drum and the pie. Not much entertainment on the pitch.
As to Peter Whittingham I think he's been a great player for us. Given the chance with a manager who plays to his strengths I'm sure he will be again.

Glad the kids enjoyed it. Ive met Peter and hes a lovely guy but theres no point living in the past. Time and tide waits for no man.

The majority of this thread shows why Cardiff fans really are clueless when it comes to football. Remember when Caulker, Mutchband Campbell were the future spine of the English national side

Blaming Whitts for last nights performance is stretching it even by the dimwits on here's standards.