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Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:13 pm

Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

If you get your wish and Vincent Tan sacks Slade, who do you think Tan will replace him with ?

That is not, who you want or who you would like Tan to replace him with ?

Tan is making cut backs, he is selling and cutting the wage bill, that includes the level of manager we employ as well.

Slade is doing what is expected of him by Tan, he is selling players, cutting the wage bill and we are competing in the league.

I didn't think, and I dont think many others did either, that we would be above mid table this season under Slade but he is doing better than most of us thought we would so with that in mind and remember who chooses the manager and the pay he will get and the constraints he will work under, don't you think we would be jumping from the fire pan into the fire?

I am not a believer that Slade is the right guy to succeed but he has exceeded my expectations and I don't see Tan going for a manager who would want control so in my opinion we may as well support what we got this season and see where that takes us.

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:14 pm

Have to admit you stumped me when you asked me this earlier Carl :lol:

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:20 pm

Carl.
I agree with you.
I also think we could do a lot better if people dropped their expectations down to a realistic level and actually got behind the manager and team.

However it seems to me that most have never given Slade a fair crack and want Bellamy.

Same fans will be moaning like hell as soon as Bellamy loses a few games.

Ironically we are playing much better than earlier in the season, but getting worse results.

Maybe need to get KD back in to secure midfield.
Mind you he wasn't even in the bench again tonight, with OKeefe as cover for CM

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:24 pm

Lawnmower wrote:Carl.
I agree with you.
I also think we could do a lot better if people dropped their expectations down to a realistic level and actually got behind the manager and team.

However it seems to me that most have never given Slade a fair crack and want Bellamy.

Same fans will be moaning like hell as soon as Bellamy loses a few games.

Ironically we are playing much better than earlier in the season, but getting worse results.

Maybe need to get KD back in to secure midfield.
Mind you he wasn't even in the bench again tonight, with OKeefe as cover for CM

Tim,

I can't believe that Bellamy would consider working under Tan and especially not having control,

I thought when Bellamy apparently said ' One man stands in my way ', when asked if he wanted the City job, I think he was referring to Tan and not Slade.

I dint know where the expectation rise has come from, cause if you ask anyone they will say they didn't expect us to be top six, so if they now do then surely that means Slade is doins something right, which is ironic :lol:

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:25 pm

Slade will be here as long as Tans wants him he won't sack him get that into your skull Chuckles! :lol:

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:27 pm

A big name with man utd conections :lol:

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:29 pm

blue lagoon wrote:A big name with man utd conections :lol:

Ole was Dalman's choice.

Tan picked Slade and there is nothing to suggest he won't pick the next guy.

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:30 pm

Neil Ardley knows the club, the fans and tries playing decent stuff with kids.

Wouldn't cost the earth, made his mistake and learnt at a lower level, understands the modern game.

But manager recruitment is not my job, get rid of Slade and young and leave Trollope in there and ask Bellers to coach the first team....Its not impossible...

We are not going up nor down, but wasting valuable time in developing a pattern and identity again....
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Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:30 pm

carlccfc wrote:
blue lagoon wrote:A big name with man utd conections :lol:

Ole was Dalman's choice.

Tan picked Slade and there is nothing to suggest he won't pick the next guy.


Give it to Choo its his turn to pick. :laughing6:

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:31 pm

Dave Jones?

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:31 pm

llan bluebird wrote:Neil Ardley knows the club, the fans and tries playing decent stuff with kids.

Wouldn't cost the earth, made his mistake and learnt at a lower level, understands the modern game.

But manager recruitment is not my job, get rid of Slade and young and leave Trollope in there and ask Bellers to coach the first team....Its not impossible...

We are not going up nor down, but wasting valuable time in developing a pattern and identity again....

Very good suggestion but the flaw would be that Ardley and Bellamy know all that is wrong with the hierarchy at the club.

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:33 pm

pauly_gee wrote:Dave Jones?

He offered DJ the job after Malky was sacked, but DJ likes to spend and I think the constraints are tougher now than when they were under Ridsdale.

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:33 pm

Bellamy done deal in the summer. He let the cat out of the bag on MNF.

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:34 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
blue lagoon wrote:A big name with man utd conections :lol:

Ole was Dalman's choice.

Tan picked Slade and there is nothing to suggest he won't pick the next guy.


Give it to Choo its his turn to pick. :laughing6:

:lol:

Or let Slade decide :lol:

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:36 pm

carlccfc wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
blue lagoon wrote:A big name with man utd conections :lol:

Ole was Dalman's choice.

Tan picked Slade and there is nothing to suggest he won't pick the next guy.


Give it to Choo its his turn to pick. :laughing6:

:lol:

Or let Slade decide :lol:


Slade would want to get DJ back to carry on his 442 philosophy. :lol:

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:36 pm

carlccfc wrote:
pauly_gee wrote:Dave Jones?

He offered DJ the job after Malky was sacked, but DJ likes to spend and I think the constraints are tougher now than when they were under Ridsdale.



When DJ spent money, it was never really BIG money.

Never thought I'd want DJ back, but he could work some magic with the current squad I'm sure.

Kenwyn will be gone soon as he wont accept the new offer of £25k a week, so whoever is in charge will need to bring in a new striker pronto.

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:40 pm

pauly_gee wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
pauly_gee wrote:Dave Jones?

He offered DJ the job after Malky was sacked, but DJ likes to spend and I think the constraints are tougher now than when they were under Ridsdale.



When DJ spent money, it was never really BIG money.

Never thought I'd want DJ back, but he could work some magic with the current squad I'm sure.

Kenwyn will be gone soon as he wont accept the new offer of £25k a week, so whoever is in charge will need to bring in a new striker pronto.

Chopra, Bothroyd, Loovens,Johnson, Whitts, Mcirmack, Mcphail, Burke.etc,etc

People keep using budget as an excuse for Slades shit signings but none of the above cost more than Doyle.

If DJ had been give the money Malky had we'd have gone up in style

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:41 pm

When I looked at the players at the club at the start of the season I said on this forum that in my opinion we would finish between 12th and 15th. I have seen nothing yet to convince me that we will finish much above that prediction. I think Slade is doing ok with the players at his disposal, but I do not think that he would be the person to take us forward if money was made available for new players. I think a lot of the fans on this forum have a lot of football knowledge, and could see from day one the sort of season that was ahead of us this time round. There are still a few on here who are either too blinkered to see the whole picture, or know very little about the game, and still think we can be playing in the Premiership next season. I think even these people will soon realise that this club will be playing Championship football next season, as the play offs will be off our radar by the end of next month. There is no point in getting rid of Slade at this point, he is doing what he was expected to do when Tan appointed him.

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:42 pm

Move Slade upstairs as director of football. Give Trollope a real chance to play the team HE WANTS. I would guess that Trollope could bring in Bellamy as assistant coach. RESULT. Please stop trying to second guess what Mr Tan is thinking, or otherwise, ask his mum.

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:44 pm

polo wrote:
pauly_gee wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
pauly_gee wrote:Dave Jones?

He offered DJ the job after Malky was sacked, but DJ likes to spend and I think the constraints are tougher now than when they were under Ridsdale.



When DJ spent money, it was never really BIG money.

Never thought I'd want DJ back, but he could work some magic with the current squad I'm sure.

Kenwyn will be gone soon as he wont accept the new offer of £25k a week, so whoever is in charge will need to bring in a new striker pronto.

Chopra, Bothroyd, Loovens,Johnson, Whitts, Mcirmack, Mcphail, Burke.etc,etc

People keep using budget as an excuse for Slades shit signings but none of the above cost more than Doyle.

If DJ had been give the money Malky had we'd have gone up in style

Chris, you know I was a fan of DJ but I don't think even he would get this squad up there this season if he took over now.

Also DJ was on a £1m a year rolling contract, I can't see him taking the job to try and deliver the same target as before, promotion, for £120k a year.

So budget does come into it.

Also I hope you mean the first CHOPRA signing and not his return :lol: :thumbup:

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:45 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:When I looked at the players at the club at the start of the season I said on this forum that in my opinion we would finish between 12th and 15th. I have seen nothing yet to convince me that we will finish much above that prediction. I think Slade is doing ok with the players at his disposal, but I do not think that he would be the person to take us forward if money was made available for new players. I think a lot of the fans on this forum have a lot of football knowledge, and could see from day one the sort of season that was ahead of us this time round. There are still a few on here who are either too blinkered to see the whole picture, or know very little about the game, and still think we can be playing in the Premiership next season. I think even these people will soon realise that this club will be playing Championship football next season, as the play offs will be off our radar by the end of next month. There is no point in getting rid of Slade at this point, he is doing what he was expected to do when Tan appointed him.

Agree.

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:45 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:When I looked at the players at the club at the start of the season I said on this forum that in my opinion we would finish between 12th and 15th. I have seen nothing yet to convince me that we will finish much above that prediction. I think Slade is doing ok with the players at his disposal, but I do not think that he would be the person to take us forward if money was made available for new players. I think a lot of the fans on this forum have a lot of football knowledge, and could see from day one the sort of season that was ahead of us this time round. There are still a few on here who are either too blinkered to see the whole picture, or know very little about the game, and still think we can be playing in the Premiership next season. I think even these people will soon realise that this club will be playing Championship football next season, as the play offs will be off our radar by the end of next month. There is no point in getting rid of Slade at this point, he is doing what he was expected to do when Tan appointed him.

Totally disagree. Hull, Derby, Boro and Burnley aside our squad is as good as anyone's. Certainly as good as Ipswich or Brightons who occupy the other play off positions.

The manager is the main problem not the quality of the squad. The squad is good enough to get 5th or 6th but not under this tactically inept manager.

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:51 pm

I think there is a lot of work still to do with slade here. We need to clear a lot of high earners off the books completely before we can move on. Loans are good for the short term, but these players need to not come back.
we know that we are sailing very close to the FFP limits and that is priority for the club to sort out at the mo, so a severance for Slade as well as paying a high earning manager cant happen.
Why people keep calling for Bellamy I have no idea, he has no experience, he is hot headed, he is a liverpool supporter and only thefact that is close to his home would be the only reason he would take the job, i see him in the same light as roy keane, he may be ok one day but to take this job on as his first would be a bad move for both parties.
We will not achieve a great deal over the next few years while this mess gets sorted, so let's get back to supporting the club.

I enjoyed most of the game today, I spent the first half in my seat in 116 , then took a trip over to the canton stand second half for some atmosphere, I do miss the singing. I think Ralls and Watt both had an off game today, had they been on form, we'd have taken all 3 points easy today. Ah well, on to Blackburn.

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:52 pm

polo wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:When I looked at the players at the club at the start of the season I said on this forum that in my opinion we would finish between 12th and 15th. I have seen nothing yet to convince me that we will finish much above that prediction. I think Slade is doing ok with the players at his disposal, but I do not think that he would be the person to take us forward if money was made available for new players. I think a lot of the fans on this forum have a lot of football knowledge, and could see from day one the sort of season that was ahead of us this time round. There are still a few on here who are either too blinkered to see the whole picture, or know very little about the game, and still think we can be playing in the Premiership next season. I think even these people will soon realise that this club will be playing Championship football next season, as the play offs will be off our radar by the end of next month. There is no point in getting rid of Slade at this point, he is doing what he was expected to do when Tan appointed him.

Totally disagree. Hull, Derby, Boro and Burnley aside our squad is as good as anyone's. Certainly as good as Ipswich or Brightons who occupy the other play off positions.

The manager is the main problem not the quality of the squad. The squad is good enough to get 5th or 6th but not under this tactically inept manager.

I'll give another prediction, and that is that Brighton won't be anywhere near the play offs either come the end of the season.

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:55 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:
polo wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:When I looked at the players at the club at the start of the season I said on this forum that in my opinion we would finish between 12th and 15th. I have seen nothing yet to convince me that we will finish much above that prediction. I think Slade is doing ok with the players at his disposal, but I do not think that he would be the person to take us forward if money was made available for new players. I think a lot of the fans on this forum have a lot of football knowledge, and could see from day one the sort of season that was ahead of us this time round. There are still a few on here who are either too blinkered to see the whole picture, or know very little about the game, and still think we can be playing in the Premiership next season. I think even these people will soon realise that this club will be playing Championship football next season, as the play offs will be off our radar by the end of next month. There is no point in getting rid of Slade at this point, he is doing what he was expected to do when Tan appointed him.

Totally disagree. Hull, Derby, Boro and Burnley aside our squad is as good as anyone's. Certainly as good as Ipswich or Brightons who occupy the other play off positions.

The manager is the main problem not the quality of the squad. The squad is good enough to get 5th or 6th but not under this tactically inept manager.

I'll give another prediction, and that is that Brighton won't be anywhere near the play offs either come the end of the season.


They will be there or thereabouts as they already have an 8 point gap and have a good manager.

Either way if they do miss out they will be replaced by a team who's squad is no better than ours.

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:55 pm

polo wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:When I looked at the players at the club at the start of the season I said on this forum that in my opinion we would finish between 12th and 15th. I have seen nothing yet to convince me that we will finish much above that prediction. I think Slade is doing ok with the players at his disposal, but I do not think that he would be the person to take us forward if money was made available for new players. I think a lot of the fans on this forum have a lot of football knowledge, and could see from day one the sort of season that was ahead of us this time round. There are still a few on here who are either too blinkered to see the whole picture, or know very little about the game, and still think we can be playing in the Premiership next season. I think even these people will soon realise that this club will be playing Championship football next season, as the play offs will be off our radar by the end of next month. There is no point in getting rid of Slade at this point, he is doing what he was expected to do when Tan appointed him.

Totally disagree. Hull, Derby, Boro and Burnley aside our squad is as good as anyone's. Certainly as good as Ipswich or Brightons who occupy the other play off positions.

The manager is the main problem not the quality of the squad. The squad is good enough to get 5th or 6th but not under this tactically inept manager.


I agree with polo on this. With the squad of players we had at the start of season we are easily a top 6 side with the right manager in charge. Also the right manager would have signed better players than the shit pointless signing slade has made.

To answer carls question i would say craig bellamy. If he wasnt up for working under tan plenty of up and coming out there with modern footballing philosophies. Someone like gary rowett for example. Look what he would do with this squad of players.

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:57 pm

Mr Shed wrote:I think there is a lot of work still to do with slade here. We need to clear a lot of high earners off the books completely before we can move on. Loans are good for the short term, but these players need to not come back.
we know that we are sailing very close to the FFP limits and that is priority for the club to sort out at the mo, so a severance for Slade as well as paying a high earning manager cant happen.
Why people keep calling for Bellamy I have no idea, he has no experience, he is hot headed, he is a liverpool supporter and only thefact that is close to his home would be the only reason he would take the job, i see him in the same light as roy keane, he may be ok one day but to take this job on as his first would be a bad move for both parties.
We will not achieve a great deal over the next few years while this mess gets sorted, so let's get back to supporting the club.

I enjoyed most of the game today, I spent the first half in my seat in 116 , then took a trip over to the canton stand second half for some atmosphere, I do miss the singing. I think Ralls and Watt both had an off game today, had they been on form, we'd have taken all 3 points easy today. Ah well, on to Blackburn.



What does it matter what team a manager supports?!? Do you think SirAlex grew up supporting Man U?

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:57 pm

Id rather paul trollope in charge than slade. Theres a better replacement right there imo. Cheap option who would snap the boards hand off for the job.

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:58 pm

BlueMagic wrote:
polo wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:When I looked at the players at the club at the start of the season I said on this forum that in my opinion we would finish between 12th and 15th. I have seen nothing yet to convince me that we will finish much above that prediction. I think Slade is doing ok with the players at his disposal, but I do not think that he would be the person to take us forward if money was made available for new players. I think a lot of the fans on this forum have a lot of football knowledge, and could see from day one the sort of season that was ahead of us this time round. There are still a few on here who are either too blinkered to see the whole picture, or know very little about the game, and still think we can be playing in the Premiership next season. I think even these people will soon realise that this club will be playing Championship football next season, as the play offs will be off our radar by the end of next month. There is no point in getting rid of Slade at this point, he is doing what he was expected to do when Tan appointed him.

Totally disagree. Hull, Derby, Boro and Burnley aside our squad is as good as anyone's. Certainly as good as Ipswich or Brightons who occupy the other play off positions.

The manager is the main problem not the quality of the squad. The squad is good enough to get 5th or 6th but not under this tactically inept manager.


I agree with polo on this. With the squad of players we had at the start of season we are easily a top 6 side with the right manager in charge. Also the right manager would have signed better players than the shit pointless signing slade has made.

To answer carls question i would say craig bellamy. If he wasnt up for working under tan plenty of up and coming out there with modern footballing philosophies. Someone like gary rowett for example. Look what he would do with this squad of players.


He's working wonders with a very limited squad and budget at Birmingham.

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:00 am

polo wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:
polo wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:When I looked at the players at the club at the start of the season I said on this forum that in my opinion we would finish between 12th and 15th. I have seen nothing yet to convince me that we will finish much above that prediction. I think Slade is doing ok with the players at his disposal, but I do not think that he would be the person to take us forward if money was made available for new players. I think a lot of the fans on this forum have a lot of football knowledge, and could see from day one the sort of season that was ahead of us this time round. There are still a few on here who are either too blinkered to see the whole picture, or know very little about the game, and still think we can be playing in the Premiership next season. I think even these people will soon realise that this club will be playing Championship football next season, as the play offs will be off our radar by the end of next month. There is no point in getting rid of Slade at this point, he is doing what he was expected to do when Tan appointed him.

Totally disagree. Hull, Derby, Boro and Burnley aside our squad is as good as anyone's. Certainly as good as Ipswich or Brightons who occupy the other play off positions.

The manager is the main problem not the quality of the squad. The squad is good enough to get 5th or 6th but not under this tactically inept manager.


I agree with polo on this. With the squad of players we had at the start of season we are easily a top 6 side with the right manager in charge. Also the right manager would have signed better players than the shit pointless signing slade has made.

To answer carls question i would say craig bellamy. If he wasnt up for working under tan plenty of up and coming out there with modern footballing philosophies. Someone like gary rowett for example. Look what he would do with this squad of players.


He's working wonders with a very limited squad and budget at Birmingham.


I bet Gareth Ainsworth would aswell? ;)