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80% of agent fees not slades

Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:20 pm

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... Wales-ccfc

Re: 80% of agent fees not slades

Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:35 pm

wez1927 wrote:http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/real-reason-cardiff-city-spent-10528527#ICID=FB-Wales-ccfc


At least now the Truth has come out, Tan has had to pay them all, proving MALKY DID NO WRONG AND WAS INNOCENT ALL ALONG :thumbright: :thumbright: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Tan always tries not to pay and guess what he ends up paying it, after all the things that were said, Shocking.

Re: 80% of agent fees not slades

Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:38 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/real-reason-cardiff-city-spent-10528527#ICID=FB-Wales-ccfc


At least now the Truth has come out, Tan has had to pay them all, proving MALKY DID NO WRONG AND WAS INNOCENT ALL ALONG :thumbright: :thumbright: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Tan always tries not to pay and guess what he ends up paying it, after all the things that were said, Shocking.

Your missing the point ole , malkly and moody have thrown away even more money it's over 11 million in fees in the last three years and could be more the club are with holding 5 million pounds now in malkys transfer s

Re: 80% of agent fees not slades

Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:49 pm

It was obvious it was down to the premier league signings during Slade's reign so far we have spent peanuts.

Re: 80% of agent fees not slades

Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:10 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/real-reason-cardiff-city-spent-10528527#ICID=FB-Wales-ccfc


At least now the Truth has come out, Tan has had to pay them all, proving MALKY DID NO WRONG AND WAS INNOCENT ALL ALONG :thumbright: :thumbright: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Tan always tries not to pay and guess what he ends up paying it, after all the things that were said, Shocking.


Doesn't the article say there's still £5m not settled.

Also why the hell have we committed to £9m of agents fees.

Just because nothing has been proved doesn't mean nothing dodgy has gone on.

Doesn't smell good to me.

Re: 80% of agent fees not slades

Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:05 am

Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/real-reason-cardiff-city-spent-10528527#ICID=FB-Wales-ccfc


At least now the Truth has come out, Tan has had to pay them all, proving MALKY DID NO WRONG AND WAS INNOCENT ALL ALONG :thumbright: :thumbright: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Tan always tries not to pay and guess what he ends up paying it, after all the things that were said, Shocking.

How have you come to that conclusion? It wasn't Slade's doing. Earlier you posted we can't blame Malky for this now but the likelihood is that it's probably him and Ole who have allowed us to spend so much on agents? I saw that we did multiple deals through one agent during Ole's tenure. Whether Malky has done the same/similar remains to be seen.

Re: 80% of agent fees not slades

Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:53 am

Lawnmower wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/real-reason-cardiff-city-spent-10528527#ICID=FB-Wales-ccfc


At least now the Truth has come out, Tan has had to pay them all, proving MALKY DID NO WRONG AND WAS INNOCENT ALL ALONG :thumbright: :thumbright: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Tan always tries not to pay and guess what he ends up paying it, after all the things that were said, Shocking.


Doesn't the article say there's still £5m not settled.

Also why the hell have we committed to £9m of agents fees.

Just because nothing has been proved doesn't mean nothing dodgy has gone on.

Doesn't smell good to me.

The Cornelius deal was shocking ,
To sign him for just under £8 million ...... and to go from £6,000 a week with Copenhagen to £45,000 a week with Cardiff and on a 5 year contract that would have cost over £11 million
Plus £1.25 million signing on fee ...... for an unproven 20 year old striker
Something not right about that deal

Re: 80% of agent fees not slades

Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:02 am

7777 glt wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/real-reason-cardiff-city-spent-10528527#ICID=FB-Wales-ccfc


At least now the Truth has come out, Tan has had to pay them all, proving MALKY DID NO WRONG AND WAS INNOCENT ALL ALONG :thumbright: :thumbright: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Tan always tries not to pay and guess what he ends up paying it, after all the things that were said, Shocking.


Doesn't the article say there's still £5m not settled.

Also why the hell have we committed to £9m of agents fees.

Just because nothing has been proved doesn't mean nothing dodgy has gone on.

Doesn't smell good to me.

The Cornelius deal was shocking ,
To sign him for just under £8 million ...... and to go from £6,000 a week with Copenhagen to £45,000 a week with Cardiff and on a 5 year contract that would have cost over £11 million
Plus £1.25 million signing on fee ...... for an unproven 20 year old striker
Something not right about that deal
and some still defend him

Re: 80% of agent fees not slades

Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:20 am

Think the blame lies with Malky and Moody,if you read between the lines .
Tragic really when at the time we all thought he was the real Messiah ,but really he just left us in a real mess.

Re: 80% of agent fees not slades

Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:54 am

Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/real-reason-cardiff-city-spent-10528527#ICID=FB-Wales-ccfc


At least now the Truth has come out, Tan has had to pay them all, proving MALKY DID NO WRONG AND WAS INNOCENT ALL ALONG :thumbright: :thumbright: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Tan always tries not to pay and guess what he ends up paying it, after all the things that were said, Shocking.


Delusional. As always.

How can you be so sure that all of those agent fees are down to Ole? Oh yeah, ITK right? Bullshit.

I didn't think anyone can be so blind to still think Malky was a saint.

Re: 80% of agent fees not slades

Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:55 am

nojac wrote:Think the blame lies with Malky and Moody,if you read between the lines .
Tragic really when at the time we all thought he was the real Messiah ,but really he just left us in a real mess.
still paying for his and the club blind faith in him ,people say but he earned us money from promotion but this has been cancelled out by the overspend

Re: 80% of agent fees not slades

Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:32 am

wez1927 wrote:
7777 glt wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/real-reason-cardiff-city-spent-10528527#ICID=FB-Wales-ccfc


At least now the Truth has come out, Tan has had to pay them all, proving MALKY DID NO WRONG AND WAS INNOCENT ALL ALONG :thumbright: :thumbright: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Tan always tries not to pay and guess what he ends up paying it, after all the things that were said, Shocking.


Doesn't the article say there's still £5m not settled.

Also why the hell have we committed to £9m of agents fees.

Just because nothing has been proved doesn't mean nothing dodgy has gone on.

Doesn't smell good to me.

The Cornelius deal was shocking ,
To sign him for just under £8 million ...... and to go from £6,000 a week with Copenhagen to £45,000 a week with Cardiff and on a 5 year contract that would have cost over £11 million
Plus £1.25 million signing on fee ...... for an unproven 20 year old striker
Something not right about that deal
and some still defend him



Like said earlier no facts just sensational headline's and there's always lies more lies and statistics! And I get told to wise up? :shock:

Re: 80% of agent fees not slades

Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:37 am

nickpccfc wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/real-reason-cardiff-city-spent-10528527#ICID=FB-Wales-ccfc


At least now the Truth has come out, Tan has had to pay them all, proving MALKY DID NO WRONG AND WAS INNOCENT ALL ALONG :thumbright: :thumbright: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Tan always tries not to pay and guess what he ends up paying it, after all the things that were said, Shocking.


Delusional. As always.

How can you be so sure that all of those agent fees are down to Ole? Oh yeah, ITK right? Bullshit.

I didn't think anyone can be so blind to still think Malky was a saint.


What I find baffling is that the same people who canonise Malky castigate Tan. They say that Malky took us up and the Premiership money etc etc yet Tan is the owner that finally got us over the line. They forget that. If you slate one you have to slate the other. BOTH made mistakes with the finances. Malky's was obvious, Tan's main one was trusting Malky and moody. He has of course made others.

Re: 80% of agent fees not slades

Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:42 am

I'm glad Wez has been proven right. The glee at which the usual suspects jumped on the story was embarrassing in hindsight.

Re: 80% of agent fees not slades

Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:19 am

I think your right Wez. Milky and Moody responsible. Remember Tan turning the screw on Malky. He had him at his mercy hence the grovelling apology. Some people have got a obsessive agenda on here.

Re: 80% of agent fees not slades

Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:27 am

Just a straight question, yes Mally like many managers over spent, but the difference is Malky delivered success, the question is Tan said there was fraud, never proven and yet again Tan proven wrong and has had to pay the agents fees.

So the question is , Who was over seeing Malky and who was running our club during this period ?
Just a simple question :ayatollah:

Re: 80% of agent fees not slades

Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:31 am

Lawnmower wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/real-reason-cardiff-city-spent-10528527#ICID=FB-Wales-ccfc


At least now the Truth has come out, Tan has had to pay them all, proving MALKY DID NO WRONG AND WAS INNOCENT ALL ALONG :thumbright: :thumbright: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Tan always tries not to pay and guess what he ends up paying it, after all the things that were said, Shocking.


Doesn't the article say there's still £5m not settled.

Also why the hell have we committed to £9m of agents fees.

Just because nothing has been proved doesn't mean nothing dodgy has gone on.

Doesn't smell good to me.


Awful Agent fees Tim in fact disgraceful, but it also does not mean they were guilty of anything as they have Never ever been found guilty of anything, a hard fact.

And then Tan employed Ole, you could not make it up, pure madness

Re: 80% of agent fees not slades

Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:38 am

I just rang the reporters

Tim, the £5mill owing,a lot of those fees are during Oles time as now Tan is disputing them and won't pay them, so the circus goes on and on, do they ever learn.

Re: 80% of agent fees not slades

Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:45 am

What everyone is forgetting here is , Tan is the owner/ business man who ran up £190 mill of debts and has had 6 CEO''S , so in business and life the blame lies at the top a true fact.

Re: 80% of agent fees not slades

Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:10 pm

Forever Blue wrote:I just rang the reporters

Tim, the £5mill owing,a lot of those fees are during Oles time as now Tan is disputing them and won't pay them, so the circus goes on and on, do they ever learn.

Not sure if I read it on here somewhere that Ole has the same agent as some of the players that he brought in
If true, surely conflict of interest there , it could be the reason why Tan is with holding some agents fees during Ole's time here
Who knows what is true or not ...... its just a can of worms with no end in sight

Re: 80% of agent fees not slades

Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:13 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Just a straight question, yes Mally like many managers over spent, but the difference is Malky delivered success, the question is Tan said there was fraud, never proven and yet again Tan proven wrong and has had to pay the agents fees.

So the question is , Who was over seeing Malky and who was running our club during this period ?
Just a simple question :ayatollah:


Moody was overseeing Malky was he not? They had been given control of football matters of which transfers was one. The CEO merely rubber stamped.

Re: 80% of agent fees not slades

Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:18 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Just a straight question, yes Mally like many managers over spent, but the difference is Malky delivered success, the question is Tan said there was fraud, never proven and yet again Tan proven wrong and has had to pay the agents fees.

So the question is , Who was over seeing Malky and who was running our club during this period ?
Just a simple question :ayatollah:


You are right he delivered success. He won the championship but spent a huge amount getting there and then a huge amount once we were there. A better manager would have had us better prepared for the Premiership.

Re: 80% of agent fees not slades

Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:30 pm

Tan was very nieve in the early days of his reign,he trusted Malky and Moody fully.
In hindsight that was his second biggest mistake.
That's why now Slade is working under constraints,that very few other managers would.Tan will not be taken for a ride again.
Dalman begged for Ole to get the job and Tan agreed. This is why Slade is 100% Tans man. Also why we are working to a budget that will eventually make us sustainable. Unfortunately the only winners in this unfortunate saga are the agents.

Re: 80% of agent fees not slades

Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:31 pm

7777 glt wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/real-reason-cardiff-city-spent-10528527#ICID=FB-Wales-ccfc


At least now the Truth has come out, Tan has had to pay them all, proving MALKY DID NO WRONG AND WAS INNOCENT ALL ALONG :thumbright: :thumbright: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Tan always tries not to pay and guess what he ends up paying it, after all the things that were said, Shocking.


Doesn't the article say there's still £5m not settled.

Also why the hell have we committed to £9m of agents fees.

Just because nothing has been proved doesn't mean nothing dodgy has gone on.

Doesn't smell good to me.

The Cornelius deal was shocking ,
To sign him for just under £8 million ...... and to go from £6,000 a week with Copenhagen to £45,000 a week with Cardiff and on a 5 year contract that would have cost over £11 million
Plus £1.25 million signing on fee ...... for an unproven 20 year old striker
Something not right about that deal


The Cornelius deal does appear to be a shocking waste of money. Who signed that deal and committed the club to the spend though?

A lot of the players signed by OGS happened to have the same agent as OGS himself or were tied to an agency OGS used to be a partner in. Maybe that is what is being looked at before making the balance of payments to agents being claimed? Again , who at the club was the actual signatory on those deals?

Both Malky Mackay and OGS made some very poor signings. But someone else higher up the club "food chain" actually committed the club to the cost in writing.

Re: 80% of agent fees not slades

Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:41 pm

ccfcsince62 wrote:
7777 glt wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/real-reason-cardiff-city-spent-10528527#ICID=FB-Wales-ccfc


At least now the Truth has come out, Tan has had to pay them all, proving MALKY DID NO WRONG AND WAS INNOCENT ALL ALONG :thumbright: :thumbright: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Tan always tries not to pay and guess what he ends up paying it, after all the things that were said, Shocking.


Doesn't the article say there's still £5m not settled.

Also why the hell have we committed to £9m of agents fees.

Just because nothing has been proved doesn't mean nothing dodgy has gone on.

Doesn't smell good to me.

The Cornelius deal was shocking ,
To sign him for just under £8 million ...... and to go from £6,000 a week with Copenhagen to £45,000 a week with Cardiff and on a 5 year contract that would have cost over £11 million
Plus £1.25 million signing on fee ...... for an unproven 20 year old striker
Something not right about that deal


The Cornelius deal does appear to be a shocking waste of money. Who signed that deal and committed the club to the spend though?

A lot of the players signed by OGS happened to have the same agent as OGS himself or were tied to an agency OGS used to be a partner in. Maybe that is what is being looked at before making the balance of payments to agents being claimed? Again , who at the club was the actual signatory on those deals?

Both Malky Mackay and OGS made some very poor signings. But someone else higher up the club "food chain" actually committed the club to the cost in writing.


This article sums things up quite nicely I think. Moody negotiated deals. Malky obviously had a lot of input. CEO signed off on the deals BUT M and M were trusted to act properly and effectively in the purchase of new players. Unfortunately they didn't. That is the problem we had.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... f-job.html

Re: 80% of agent fees not slades

Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:49 pm

CEO signed off the deals and that is who the blame should directed at. Managers want as many players as they can all the time but it's the job at the CEO to only do deals which the club can afford because the manager and his team don't know the complete financial state of the club surely. If as many are saying that Malky and Noody had the CEO in their pocket then that's unprofessionalisum shown on behalf of the CEO

But hey ho the Tan lovers will always have their heads in the sand
Last edited by Military Junta on Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Re: 80% of agent fees not slades

Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:51 pm

Military Junta wrote:CEO signed off the deals and that is who the blame should directed too. Managers want as many players as they want but it's the job at the CEO to only do deals which the club can afford because the manager and his team don't know the complete financial state of the club surely.

But hey ho the Tan lovers will always have their heads in the sand


How could Tan or any CEO know what a complete cock up M and M would make?

Re: 80% of agent fees not slades

Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:54 pm

maccydee wrote:
Military Junta wrote:CEO signed off the deals and that is who the blame should directed too. Managers want as many players as they want but it's the job at the CEO to only do deals which the club can afford because the manager and his team don't know the complete financial state of the club surely.

But hey ho the Tan lovers will always have their heads in the sand


How could Tan or any CEO know what a complete cock up M and M would make?


Thats football isn't it ? Not every signing Ferguson made was a good signing. Many are suggesting that Malky and Moody had the CEO in their pocket but that would be unprofessionalisum shown on behalf of the CEO surely

Re: 80% of agent fees not slades

Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:25 pm

Military Junta wrote:CEO signed off the deals and that is who the blame should directed at. Managers want as many players as they can all the time but it's the job at the CEO to only do deals which the club can afford because the manager and his team don't know the complete financial state of the club surely. If as many are saying that Malky and Noody had the CEO in their pocket then that's unprofessionalisum shown on behalf of the CEO

But hey ho the Tan lovers will always have their heads in the sand


Spot on Adam :thumbright:

Re: 80% of agent fees not slades

Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:36 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Military Junta wrote:CEO signed off the deals and that is who the blame should directed at. Managers want as many players as they can all the time but it's the job at the CEO to only do deals which the club can afford because the manager and his team don't know the complete financial state of the club surely. If as many are saying that Malky and Noody had the CEO in their pocket then that's unprofessionalisum shown on behalf of the CEO

But hey ho the Tan lovers will always have their heads in the sand


Spot on Adam :thumbright:


Not the only time I've been spot on Annis but many on here would rather put their hand in the fire than say that I'm correct :laughing6: