' CCFC AGENT FEES Vs TRANSFER FEES '

' CCFC AGENT FEES Vs TRANSFER FEES '


Cardiff City spent £2,828,133 on agent fees between October 2014 and September 2015.


I think that is a ludicrous amount of money when you consider how relatively little we have spent on transfer fees in the same period.

Below is the list of players I can recall we have signed during the time frame that relate to the agent fees costs.

Sammy Ameobi - Loan
Gabriel Tamas - Unattached
Semi Ajayi - Free
Idriss Saadi - Undisclosed
Marco Weymans - Nominal
Jordan Blaise - Free

Scott Malone - £100k
Alex Revell - £175k
Lee Peltier - £100k
Stuart O'Keefe - Undisclosed
Eoin Doyle - £750k
Matthew Kennedy - Undisclosed
Conor McAleny - Loan


Just adding up the known transfer fees above takes our spending to just over £1.1m and with the 3 undisclosed and the 1 nominal I would quite confidently argue that we have paid somewhere in the region of £1.5m for all the players that have cost us a transfer fee.

So to spend more than £2.8m on agents fees for players that approximately total £1.5m in transfer fees is absurd no matter what side of the debate you find yourself.

Shocking fees to spend for a club and owner that has publicly slammed the fees that agents have made from this club in previous seasons.


In the year Oct 2012 to Sept 2013 that included our spending in the summer transfer window when we were promoted to the Premier League Cardiff City spent £2.25m on agent fees.

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news ... -2013.html

Guess Malky weren't as bad as Tan suggested with agents during that time

Cardiff City spent £2,828,133 on agent fees between October 2014 and September 2015.

I think that is a ludicrous amount of money when you consider how relatively little we have spent on transfer fees in the same period.

Below is the list of players I can recall we have signed during the time frame that relate to the agent fees costs.

Sammy Ameobi - Loan
Gabriel Tamas - Unattached
Semi Ajayi - Free
Idriss Saadi - Undisclosed
Marco Weymans - Nominal
Jordan Blaise - Free

Scott Malone - £100k
Alex Revell - £175k
Lee Peltier - £100k
Stuart O'Keefe - Undisclosed
Eoin Doyle - £750k
Matthew Kennedy - Undisclosed
Conor McAleny - Loan


Just adding up the known transfer fees above takes our spending to just over £1.1m and with the 3 undisclosed and the 1 nominal I would quite confidently argue that we have paid somewhere in the region of £1.5m for all the players that have cost us a transfer fee.

So to spend more than £2.8m on agents fees for players that approximately total £1.5m in transfer fees is absurd no matter what side of the debate you find yourself.

Shocking fees to spend for a club and owner that has publicly slammed the fees that agents have made from this club in previous seasons.

In with the fees to agents are on going contract payments for the whole squad also any contract renewals extension etc without the breakdown we wouldn't know how much of the payments are down to the transfers

Cardiff City spent £2,828,133 on agent fees between October 2014 and September 2015.

I think that is a ludicrous amount of money when you consider how relatively little we have spent on transfer fees in the same period.

Below is the list of players I can recall we have signed during the time frame that relate to the agent fees costs.

Sammy Ameobi - Loan
Gabriel Tamas - Unattached
Semi Ajayi - Free
Idriss Saadi - Undisclosed
Marco Weymans - Nominal
Jordan Blaise - Free

Scott Malone - £100k
Alex Revell - £175k
Lee Peltier - £100k
Stuart O'Keefe - Undisclosed
Eoin Doyle - £750k
Matthew Kennedy - Undisclosed
Conor McAleny - Loan


Just adding up the known transfer fees above takes our spending to just over £1.1m and with the 3 undisclosed and the 1 nominal I would quite confidently argue that we have paid somewhere in the region of £1.5m for all the players that have cost us a transfer fee.

So to spend more than £2.8m on agents fees for players that approximately total £1.5m in transfer fees is absurd no matter what side of the debate you find yourself.

Shocking fees to spend for a club and owner that has publicly slammed the fees that agents have made from this club in previous seasons.

In with the fees to agents are on going contract payments for the whole squad also any contract renewals extension etc without the breakdown we wouldn't know how much of the payments are down to the transfers

This will also include fees for actively getting rid of players.

What a joke.

Cardiff City spent £2,828,133 on agent fees between October 2014 and September 2015.

I think that is a ludicrous amount of money when you consider how relatively little we have spent on transfer fees in the same period.

Below is the list of players I can recall we have signed during the time frame that relate to the agent fees costs.

Sammy Ameobi - Loan
Gabriel Tamas - Unattached
Semi Ajayi - Free
Idriss Saadi - Undisclosed
Marco Weymans - Nominal
Jordan Blaise - Free

Scott Malone - £100k
Alex Revell - £175k
Lee Peltier - £100k
Stuart O'Keefe - Undisclosed
Eoin Doyle - £750k
Matthew Kennedy - Undisclosed
Conor McAleny - Loan


Just adding up the known transfer fees above takes our spending to just over £1.1m and with the 3 undisclosed and the 1 nominal I would quite confidently argue that we have paid somewhere in the region of £1.5m for all the players that have cost us a transfer fee.

So to spend more than £2.8m on agents fees for players that approximately total £1.5m in transfer fees is absurd no matter what side of the debate you find yourself.

Shocking fees to spend for a club and owner that has publicly slammed the fees that agents have made from this club in previous seasons.

In with the fees to agents are on going contract payments for the whole squad also any contract renewals extension etc without the breakdown we wouldn't know how much of the payments are down to the transfers

This will also include fees for actively getting rid of players.

it would be intresting to see the breakdown on it all and to see if this season it's a lot better

You reckon Guerra's agent left without a fair chunk. His new club is skint, we'll sign but i need a wad before we go.....

All part of Tans learning curve

In the year Oct 2012 to Sept 2013 that included our spending in the summer transfer window when we were promoted to the Premier League Cardiff City spent £2.25m on agent fees.

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news ... -2013.html

Guess Malky weren't as bad as Tan suggested with agents during that time

You reckon Guerra's agent left without a fair chunk. His new club is skint, we'll sign but i need a wad before we go.....

All part of Tans learning curve

Considering Vincent Tan stated he personally oversaw the signing of Guerra then there is only one man to blame if he got screwed by the agent then.

Vincent Tan himself.

In the year Oct 2012 to Sept 2013 that included our spending in the summer transfer window when we were promoted to the Premier League Cardiff City spent £2.25m on agent fees.

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news ... -2013.html

Guess Malky weren't as bad as Tan suggested with agents during that time

it depends if the spending now is on the contacts that malky/ole signed off on without the breakdown we will never know can't see the fees being that much on most of slades signings

In the year Oct 2012 to Sept 2013 that included our spending in the summer transfer window when we were promoted to the Premier League Cardiff City spent £2.25m on agent fees.

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news ... -2013.html

Guess Malky weren't as bad as Tan suggested with agents during that time

it depends if the spending now is on the contacts that malky/ole signed off on without the breakdown we will never know can't see the fees being that much on most of slades signings

Well to that end Wez, Simon Lim released a statement on Feb 13th 2014, claiming how well City were now doing in the transfer market thanks to Ole and the transparent, professional and prudent way the club was being run.

Doesn't quite stack up now, does it ?



Cardiff City Football Club's Chief Executive Simon Lim has released the following statement:

January was a busy month for us; the fixture list was extremely tough, with three away games against Arsenal, Manchester City and Manchester United. Our shareholders have expressed their support and pleasure to the new management team. Tan Sri Vincent Tan, through the board of directors and with their support, is “encouraged by the work done by manager Ole Gunnar Solskjær in the January transfer window.”

Solskjær was instrumental in attracting top professionals who have the experience and the willpower to make an immediate impact in the club’s desire to maintain its Premier League status. Kenwyne Jones, Fábio da Silva, Mats Møller Dæhli, Jo Inge Berget, Magnus Wolff Eikrem and free agent Juan Torres Ruiz have joined the club on a permanent basis. Wilfried Zaha joins us on loan from Manchester United. We are delighted with their arrival.

The process was transparent, creating value for the club throughout all of the transactions. For sake of good order and in being transparent, we can confirm that our total outgoing expenses, including transfer fees, levy, agent fees and signing on fees were approximately £6 million, less the income of approximately £3 million received from the sale of players. This is good business for the club, where all participants were fully informed and an integral part of a process.

There has been a lot of press speculation on the loss incurred by the club due to sales. This unfortunately is true. We took the hard decision to incur these losses for the good of the club. To commit the club to a significant cost and liability over a five year contract for one player is not prudent, especially as he was not to contribute to our success now, but was for the future. Indeed, in the case of Andreas Cornelius, who cost the club in total just under £10 million, we realise a large loss in excess of £8.5 million, inclusive of transfer fees, salaries, business and compensation paid to player’s agents and other miscellaneous expenses.

The key shareholders have made their dissatisfaction of such a huge loss known to the board of directors, which they believe is due to imprudent and careless management undertaken by the previous football management.

The new structure, headed by the Chairman with our new manager Ole Gunnar Solskjær, has given comfort to our shareholders that the process is prudent, transparent and professional. Our new centre forward Kenwyne Jones scored on his debut to give us three valuable points. On Saturday we are in the fifth round of the FA Cup and wish all of the team much success and good fortune.

Simon Lim
Chief Executive

it would be nice to have some break down to figures so that we can have an informed debate instead of usual one side affair like now! 2.5m is a lot but without breakdown is worthless information!!!
eg, guerras agent could have had 2.4m for all we know!!!!!!!!

it would be nice to have some break down to figures so that we can have an informed debate instead of usual one side affair like now! 2.5m is a lot but without breakdown is worthless information!!!
eg, guerras agent could have had 2.4m for all we know!!!!!!!!

Agree it's around the same amount for last year so could it be mostly on players contracts

it would be nice to have some break down to figures so that we can have an informed debate instead of usual one side affair like now! 2.5m is a lot but without breakdown is worthless information!!!
eg, guerras agent could have had 2.4m for all we know!!!!!!!!

Agree it's around the same amount for last year so could it be mostly on players contracts

its really another unbalanced view of something to do with city management and way club is run!

it would be nice to have some break down to figures so that we can have an informed debate instead of usual one side affair like now! 2.5m is a lot but without breakdown is worthless information!!!
eg, guerras agent could have had 2.4m for all we know!!!!!!!!

Agree it's around the same amount for last year so could it be mostly on players contracts

its really another unbalanced view of something to do with city management and way club is run!

Simon Lim released a statement on Feb 13th 2014, claiming how well City were now doing in the transfer market thanks to Ole and the transparent, professional and prudent way the club was being run.

Not our words are they.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/6314369.stm intresting article especially the agent bit ,we could still be paying agents fees for players who have moved on if the monies wernt paid at the time of a transfer

it would be nice to have some break down to figures so that we can have an informed debate instead of usual one side affair like now! 2.5m is a lot but without breakdown is worthless information!!!
eg, guerras agent could have had 2.4m for all we know!!!!!!!!

When the agent fees after Malky was sacked, and Tan was on a one man mission, were announced for our one season in the Premier League as costing the club £2.25m I remember certain posters on here claiming how ridiculous an amount it was.

Yet the club is run better since Malky was sacked, we are told.

Doesn't quite seem like they got the costs under control, in fact they have got worse when it comes to agent fees.

And regards Guerra, didn't Tan personally do the deal that brought the Spaniard to the club ?

I do believe this is what Tan claimed.

So if there was massive agent fees involving that transfer, who gets the blame for that one?

Wake up Allan and stop clutching at straws, you are not doing yourself any favours at all.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... Wales-ccfc

it would be nice to have some break down to figures so that we can have an informed debate instead of usual one side affair like now! 2.5m is a lot but without breakdown is worthless information!!!
eg, guerras agent could have had 2.4m for all we know!!!!!!!!

Agree it's around the same amount for last year so could it be mostly on players contracts

its really another unbalanced view of something to do with city management and way club is run!

Simon Lim released a statement on Feb 13th 2014, claiming how well City were now doing in the transfer market thanks to Ole and the transparent, professional and prudent way the club was being run.

Not our words are they.

doesnt answer question though does it? individual payments will be a better guide like said what if wonder striker guerra 's agent had 1 0r 2 million, kind distorts the remaining figures does it? thats the point made.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/6314369.stm intresting article especially the agent bit ,we could still be paying agents fees for players who have moved on if the monies wernt paid at the time of a transfer

Very interesting Wez, indeed.

An agent can only be remunerated by one party. An agent will in most cases negotiate a fee with the buying club.

Blows yours and Allan's argument to bits that we paid agent fees for outgoing players !!!

it would be nice to have some break down to figures so that we can have an informed debate instead of usual one side affair like now! 2.5m is a lot but without breakdown is worthless information!!!
eg, guerras agent could have had 2.4m for all we know!!!!!!!!

When the agent fees after Malky was sacked, and Tan was on a one man mission, were announced for our one season in the Premier League as costing the club £2.25m I remember certain posters on here claiming how ridiculous an amount it was.

Yet the club is run better since Malky was sacked, we are told.

Doesn't quite seem like they got the costs under control, in fact they have got worse when it comes to agent fees.

And regards Guerra, didn't Tan personally do the deal that brought the Spaniard to the club ?

I do believe this is what Tan claimed.

So if there was massive agent fees involving that transfer, who gets the blame for that one?

Wake up Allan and stop clutching at straws, you are not doing yourself any favours at all.[/quotehttp://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/real-reason-cardiff-city-spent-10528527#ICID=FB-Wales-ccfc

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/6314369.stm intresting article especially the agent bit ,we could still be paying agents fees for players who have moved on if the monies wernt paid at the time of a transfer

Very interesting Wez, indeed.

An agent can only be remunerated by one party. An agent will in most cases negotiate a fee with the buying club.

Blows yours and Allan's argument to bits that we paid agent fees for outgoing players !!!

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... Wales-ccfc

it would be nice to have some break down to figures so that we can have an informed debate instead of usual one side affair like now! 2.5m is a lot but without breakdown is worthless information!!!
eg, guerras agent could have had 2.4m for all we know!!!!!!!!

Agree it's around the same amount for last year so could it be mostly on players contracts

its really another unbalanced view of something to do with city management and way club is run!

Simon Lim released a statement on Feb 13th 2014, claiming how well City were now doing in the transfer market thanks to Ole and the transparent, professional and prudent way the club was being run.

Not our words are they.

doesnt answer question though does it? individual payments will be a better guide like said what if wonder striker guerra 's agent had 1 0r 2 million, kind distorts the remaining figures does it? thats the point made.

Just in case you miss it Allan, this is taken from the link provided by Wez.

An agent can only be remunerated by one party. An agent will in most cases negotiate a fee with the buying club.

You are all missing the point here or deliberately missing it, Tan has been at City nearly 5 years, he fires and hires all the CEO'S 6 at least we have had under him, so Tan is at the end of today responsible, like any business, the man who makes the final decisions. Also Tan himself over looks all the big contracts/agents fees etc

it would be nice to have some break down to figures so that we can have an informed debate instead of usual one side affair like now! 2.5m is a lot but without breakdown is worthless information!!!
eg, guerras agent could have had 2.4m for all we know!!!!!!!!

When the agent fees after Malky was sacked, and Tan was on a one man mission, were announced for our one season in the Premier League as costing the club £2.25m I remember certain posters on here claiming how ridiculous an amount it was.

Yet the club is run better since Malky was sacked, we are told.

Doesn't quite seem like they got the costs under control, in fact they have got worse when it comes to agent fees.

And regards Guerra, didn't Tan personally do the deal that brought the Spaniard to the club ?

I do believe this is what Tan claimed.

So if there was massive agent fees involving that transfer, who gets the blame for that one?

Wake up Allan and stop clutching at straws, you are not doing yourself any favours at all.

whats the point in arguing with you two like pair vultures looking for sensationalism reagarding way club is run! as if owners of any club have lot to say about agents fees its common problem a lots clubs if not all!!!!

and try answering point made? you believe tan claimed??? mm so dont know not doing yourself any favours are you?

Last edited by pembroke allan on Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.

it would be nice to have some break down to figures so that we can have an informed debate instead of usual one side affair like now! 2.5m is a lot but without breakdown is worthless information!!!
eg, guerras agent could have had 2.4m for all we know!!!!!!!!

When the agent fees after Malky was sacked, and Tan was on a one man mission, were announced for our one season in the Premier League as costing the club £2.25m I remember certain posters on here claiming how ridiculous an amount it was.

Yet the club is run better since Malky was sacked, we are told.

Doesn't quite seem like they got the costs under control, in fact they have got worse when it comes to agent fees.

And regards Guerra, didn't Tan personally do the deal that brought the Spaniard to the club ?

I do believe this is what Tan claimed.

So if there was massive agent fees involving that transfer, who gets the blame for that one?

Wake up Allan and stop clutching at straws, you are not doing yourself any favours at all.

whats the point in arguing with you two like pair vultures looking for sensationalism reagarding way club is run! as if owners of any club have lot to say about agents fees its common problem a lots clubs if not all!!!!

looks like malky is the reason read this http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... Wales-ccfc

it would be nice to have some break down to figures so that we can have an informed debate instead of usual one side affair like now! 2.5m is a lot but without breakdown is worthless information!!!
eg, guerras agent could have had 2.4m for all we know!!!!!!!!

When the agent fees after Malky was sacked, and Tan was on a one man mission, were announced for our one season in the Premier League as costing the club £2.25m I remember certain posters on here claiming how ridiculous an amount it was.

Yet the club is run better since Malky was sacked, we are told.

Doesn't quite seem like they got the costs under control, in fact they have got worse when it comes to agent fees.

And regards Guerra, didn't Tan personally do the deal that brought the Spaniard to the club ?

I do believe this is what Tan claimed.

So if there was massive agent fees involving that transfer, who gets the blame for that one?

Wake up Allan and stop clutching at straws, you are not doing yourself any favours at all.

whats the point in arguing with you two like pair vultures looking for sensationalism reagarding way club is run! as if owners of any club have lot to say about agents fees its common problem a lots clubs if not all!!!!

looks like malky is the reason read this http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... Wales-ccfc

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/real-reason-cardiff-city-spent-10528527#ICID=FB-Wales-ccfc

I think this bit about agents being paid in instalments is probably the key thing here..

I can't see the signings in the last few months coming to more than a couple of hundred thousand.

The rest must surely be linked to previous signings. I would bet any signing made with a staged payment would also have a staged agent payment.

Also all these players sold when they were part through their contract would trigger any deferred agent payment to be cleared up before they left.

As with any story, it's the detail that's behind it that hides the truth.

I'm just hoping that there's not another £2m to pay this year !

Chance to ask Slade tomorrow

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/real-reason-cardiff-city-spent-10528527#ICID=FB-Wales-ccfc

I think this bit about agents being paid in instalments is probably the key thing here..

I can't see the signings in the last few months coming to more than a couple of hundred thousand.

The rest must surely be linked to previous signings. I would bet any signing made with a staged payment would also have a staged agent payment.

Also all these players sold when they were part through their contract would trigger any deferred agent payment to be cleared up before they left.

As with any story, it's the detail that's behind it that hides the truth.

I'm just hoping that there's not another £2m to pay this year !

Chance to ask Slade tomorrow

5 more million to come on this article

it would be nice to have some break down to figures so that we can have an informed debate instead of usual one side affair like now! 2.5m is a lot but without breakdown is worthless information!!!
eg, guerras agent could have had 2.4m for all we know!!!!!!!!

When the agent fees after Malky was sacked, and Tan was on a one man mission, were announced for our one season in the Premier League as costing the club £2.25m I remember certain posters on here claiming how ridiculous an amount it was.

Yet the club is run better since Malky was sacked, we are told.

Doesn't quite seem like they got the costs under control, in fact they have got worse when it comes to agent fees.

And regards Guerra, didn't Tan personally do the deal that brought the Spaniard to the club ?

I do believe this is what Tan claimed.

So if there was massive agent fees involving that transfer, who gets the blame for that one?

Wake up Allan and stop clutching at straws, you are not doing yourself any favours at all.

whats the point in arguing with you two like pair vultures looking for sensationalism reagarding way club is run! as if owners of any club have lot to say about agents fees its common problem a lots clubs if not all!!!!

and try answering point made? you believe tan claimed??? mm so dont know not doing yourself any favours are you?

You are the one who brought up Guerra deal not us and when it is explained to you that your idol Vincent Tan done the deal himself and now you're throwing your toys out of the pram.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/real-reason-cardiff-city-spent-10528527#ICID=FB-Wales-ccfc

I think this bit about agents being paid in instalments is probably the key thing here..

I can't see the signings in the last few months coming to more than a couple of hundred thousand.

The rest must surely be linked to previous signings. I would bet any signing made with a staged payment would also have a staged agent payment.

Also all these players sold when they were part through their contract would trigger any deferred agent payment to be cleared up before they left.

As with any story, it's the detail that's behind it that hides the truth.

I'm just hoping that there's not another £2m to pay this year !

Chance to ask Slade tomorrow

Exactly, this has all come about from when Malky and his racist mate were given complete control of the transfers and budget before Tan realized what they were up to. No wonder he hit the roof when we have another 5 million in bloody agent fees still to pay thanks to those two muppets.