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" We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:35 am

When he took over as manager we were 16th place. Table attached to this post.

We are now in a higher position, closer to the playoffs with more points than last year at the same stage even though Slade saw an upturn in results after he took over.

This achieved with Slade reducing the budget massively and trimming the squad by a quarter and wage bill far more than that.

Don't believe that he has taken us backwards. Get a bit of positivity going and the players might follow on.
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Re: We are better off now than when Slade took over

Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:37 am

In fact looking at the teams directly below and above us it could have got a lot worse.

Re: We are better off now than when Slade took over

Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:41 am

Looking at that table only Brighton and Brum have passed us, whilst we have passed 8 of the teams who were above us, plus QPR, including the likes of Wolves , Forest and Ipswich.

Only downside is 12 months of parachute money have gone, but we can hardly blame Slade for that.

Re: We are better off now than when Slade took over

Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:20 pm

No doubt Slade has improved us with the restrictions hes got.

Re: We are better off now than when Slade took over

Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:50 pm

He has improved the fitness of the team and we are better organised. That's the bare minimum we should have expected from any manager replacing the incompetent Ole. But tactically he is a dinosaur, the football is terrible we don't have many shots let alone score many goals goals, His signings have for the most part been poor. The club still has one of the bigger wage bills in the Championship and we should be doing better. The sooner Slade is gone the better.

Re: We are better off now than when Slade took over

Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:37 pm

Nemo wrote:He has improved the fitness of the team and we are better organised. That's the bare minimum we should have expected from any manager replacing the incompetent Ole. But tactically he is a dinosaur, the football is terrible we don't have many shots let alone score many goals goals, His signings have for the most part been poor. The club still has one of the bigger wage bills in the Championship and we should be doing better. The sooner Slade is gone the better.


If he took over a team who were 16th and his signings have been poor and we are now 9 positions better off then maybe he is a pretty decent man manager?

Re: We are better off now than when Slade took over

Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:46 pm

Nemo wrote:He has improved the fitness of the team and we are better organised. That's the bare minimum we should have expected from any manager replacing the incompetent Ole. But tactically he is a dinosaur, the football is terrible we don't have many shots let alone score many goals goals, His signings have for the most part been poor. The club still has one of the bigger wage bills in the Championship and we should be doing better. The sooner Slade is gone the better.

How do you know fitness is on the up? Do the players have higher O2 uptake, or have the running stats in matches increased? All the injuries in the squad indicate otherwise..

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:08 pm

maccydee wrote:When he took over as manager we were 16th place. Table attached to this post.

We are now in a higher position, closer to the playoffs with more points than last year at the same stage even though Slade saw an upturn in results after he took over.

This achieved with Slade reducing the budget massively and trimming the squad by a quarter and wage bill far more than that.

Don't believe that he has taken us backwards. Get a bit of positivity going and the players might follow on.


Great post. Shame about the sh*t football, low crowds & dire atmosphere. Must be because Uncle Fester is such a charismatic, dynamic and inspiring manager. Oh, hang on ...
:sladeout: :sladeout: :sladeout:

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:18 pm

stentona wrote:
maccydee wrote:When he took over as manager we were 16th place. Table attached to this post.

We are now in a higher position, closer to the playoffs with more points than last year at the same stage even though Slade saw an upturn in results after he took over.

This achieved with Slade reducing the budget massively and trimming the squad by a quarter and wage bill far more than that.

Don't believe that he has taken us backwards. Get a bit of positivity going and the players might follow on.


Great post. Shame about the sh*t football, low crowds & dire atmosphere. Must be because Uncle Fester is such a charismatic, dynamic and inspiring manager. Oh, hang on ...
:sladeout: :sladeout: :sladeout:


Shit crowds and poor atmosphere would be there whoever was manager.

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:32 pm

Nemo wrote:He has improved the fitness of the team and we are better organised. That's the bare minimum we should have expected from any manager replacing the incompetent Ole. But tactically he is a dinosaur, the football is terrible we don't have many shots let alone score many goals goals, His signings have for the most part been poor. The club still has one of the bigger wage bills in the Championship and we should be doing better. The sooner Slade is gone the better.

Slade's tactics aren't spotted by most Cardiff fans who have the wool over their eyes. Even simple things such as Whittingham playing as a defensive winger which allowed Malone to push forward are down to Slade, but they go unnoticed.

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:00 pm

That's not a tactic.
It's called Accommodating.

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:04 pm

Doubt that's true. OK we were 16th when he took over but we were not many points off the play-offs and we dwindled off. Look at Watford, same amount of us when they appointed their gaffer and they got promoted whilst we finished 16 points off the play-off spots? Not to mention we were 16th with only one international break into the season.

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:08 pm

If anyone thinks Slade has improved us they've either got an agenda or need their head read!

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:19 pm

City Slicker wrote:If anyone thinks Slade has improved us they've either got an agenda or need their head read!


Table doesn't lie.

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:21 pm

maccydee wrote:
City Slicker wrote:If anyone thinks Slade has improved us they've either got an agenda or need their head read!


Table doesn't lie.

They do 11 games in..

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:22 pm

maccydee wrote:
City Slicker wrote:If anyone thinks Slade has improved us they've either got an agenda or need their head read!


Table doesn't lie.


I know a good shrink

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:46 pm

You can juggle these sort of figures around to suit your own agenda. You could say we were 8 points from the top of the table when Slade took over, today we are 12 points off the top, so are we any better off?

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:55 pm

I think we're in a better, more secure place than before Slade took over, although I think it says more about how bad OGS was than how good Slade has been however. Regardless he has had a hard task to steady the ship especially under difficult transfer window conditions and for that I think he deserves credit. However, I don't see the team ever kicking on or improving from this position with Slade as manager. The future is not bright but at least relegation isn't a problem, which is sadly about the nicest thing you can say about his tenure.

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:05 pm

nail on the head shit football , shit atmosphere, shit crowds etc

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:44 pm

maccydee wrote:When he took over as manager we were 16th place. Table attached to this post.

We are now in a higher position, closer to the playoffs with more points than last year at the same stage even though Slade saw an upturn in results after he took over.

This achieved with Slade reducing the budget massively and trimming the squad by a quarter and wage bill far more than that.

Don't believe that he has taken us backwards. Get a bit of positivity going and the players might follow on.


Neil, we are 10th and slipping down the table with our lowest crowds ever in the New stadium, that for me says it all

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:52 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
maccydee wrote:When he took over as manager we were 16th place. Table attached to this post.

We are now in a higher position, closer to the playoffs with more points than last year at the same stage even though Slade saw an upturn in results after he took over.

This achieved with Slade reducing the budget massively and trimming the squad by a quarter and wage bill far more than that.

Don't believe that he has taken us backwards. Get a bit of positivity going and the players might follow on.


Neil, we are 10th and slipping down the table with our lowest crowds ever in the New stadium, that for me says it all


But Annis, as much as I am not Slade fan, we can't big up the stats that make him look bad and ignore the stats that make him look good?

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:53 am

Slade is a budget manager for a budget club. Getting bored of people saying he's doing a really bad job when in reality he's doing a good job within the circumstances.

I am still neither :sladeout: nor :sladein: but I don't think he's going to improve us so we have nothing to lose by sacking him. If they are going to do it they need to do it now and not half way through January.

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:35 am

Forever Blue wrote:
maccydee wrote:When he took over as manager we were 16th place. Table attached to this post.

We are now in a higher position, closer to the playoffs with more points than last year at the same stage even though Slade saw an upturn in results after he took over.

This achieved with Slade reducing the budget massively and trimming the squad by a quarter and wage bill far more than that.

Don't believe that he has taken us backwards. Get a bit of positivity going and the players might follow on.


Neil, we are 10th and slipping down the table with our lowest crowds ever in the New stadium, that for me says it all


As I said we were 16th and slipping alarmingly.

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:33 am

maccydee wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
maccydee wrote:When he took over as manager we were 16th place. Table attached to this post.

We are now in a higher position, closer to the playoffs with more points than last year at the same stage even though Slade saw an upturn in results after he took over.

This achieved with Slade reducing the budget massively and trimming the squad by a quarter and wage bill far more than that.

Don't believe that he has taken us backwards. Get a bit of positivity going and the players might follow on.


Neil, we are 10th and slipping down the table with our lowest crowds ever in the New stadium, that for me says it all


As I said we were 16th and slipping alarmingly.


Nice try fella :thumbright:

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:44 am

gwentbluebirds wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
maccydee wrote:When he took over as manager we were 16th place. Table attached to this post.

We are now in a higher position, closer to the playoffs with more points than last year at the same stage even though Slade saw an upturn in results after he took over.

This achieved with Slade reducing the budget massively and trimming the squad by a quarter and wage bill far more than that.

Don't believe that he has taken us backwards. Get a bit of positivity going and the players might follow on.


Neil, we are 10th and slipping down the table with our lowest crowds ever in the New stadium, that for me says it all


As I said we were 16th and slipping alarmingly.


Nice try fella :thumbright:


Hey I'm dealing in facts. All everyone has is just an anti Slade agenda. Funnily enough it's normally the same who are anti Tan too.

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:56 am

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Slade is a budget manager for a budget club. Getting bored of people saying he's doing a really bad job when in reality he's doing a good job within the circumstances.

I am still neither :sladeout: nor :sladein: but I don't think he's going to improve us so we have nothing to lose by sacking him. If they are going to do it they need to do it now and not half way through January.


Some sense here. Agree with above. We have a nutter running the club and we are a mid table team... I think we are overachieving at the moment.

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sun Nov 29, 2015 11:30 am

Of course we are are in a better position. The wage bill slashed and the team seen more together.

As for his signings..... Not many get much game time and the nucleus of the team are players who have been here some time.

Peltier aside it's not really Slade's side.

That's tells us two things.. That many of our players were already good enough (we all knew that given most had helped us get promoted previously) and that Slade is pretty useless at improving the playing personnel at this level.

And despite some moments of decent football We are horrible to watch, just horrible.

Slade has reached his glass ceiling .... Time for someone to come in and build on his hard work and add some technique and guile to his functioning side.

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sun Nov 29, 2015 11:59 am

AfricanBluebird wrote:Of course we are are in a better position. The wage bill slashed and the team seen more together.

As for his signings..... Not many get much game time and the nucleus of the team are players who have been here some time.

Peltier aside it's not really Slade's side.

That's tells us two things.. That many of our players were already good enough (we all knew that given most had helped us get promoted previously) and that Slade is pretty useless at improving the playing personnel at this level.

And despite some moments of decent football We are horrible to watch, just horrible.

Slade has reached his glass ceiling .... Time for someone to come in and build on his hard work and add some technique and guile to his functioning side.


As usual from someone slating Slade you contradict yourself in the same post.

If Slade's signings are poor and the personnel he has improved our position with are the same personnel who had us 16th in the table (minus those he has got shot of) then surely that means Slade is effective at getting more out of his players and has thus improved them?

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:25 pm

Slade has come in and done exactly what has been asked, steady us while reducing the costs going out but keeping us competitive.

If we want to move forward and get promoted then Slades contract shouldn't be renewed, if Tan is happy to keep costs low and keep us mid table, with an outside chance of play offs then Slade will stay.

The summer will be an interesting 1. Hope Mother Tan wants promotion rather than hovering around mid table

Re: " We are better off now than when Slade took over "

Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:41 pm

The debt is still raising as the cost cutting hasn't gone towards debt repayments so how can people say that the club is better now than when Slade took over!!!! Some people are absolutely deluded on here and I can really see the club going bust very quickly if it doesn't return to the Premier League before the parachute payments finish