Terror attacks "in the name"

The terror attacks in Paris, Ghana, Kenya etc have been real tragedies, horrible actions taken out by men who claim to do it in the name of Allah, as a Muslim myself I've grown up with people of every race, religion and background, they know my views as a Muslims as well as I know theirs, and they respect my views aswell as I respect theirs, these filth who shot innocent people "In the name of Islam" stopped becoming Muslims the second they even thought of attacking. These weren't Islamic Terror Attacks, these were just Terror attacks, these men don't follow the real way of being Muslim, my deepest sympathy goes for the families and friends of anyone who had to suffer from these attacks but I'd like to also say anyone who blames a ENTIRE religion on 8 men is pretty pathetic, I'm Muslim because it's teached me more than anything I've ever done, it's taught me love, compassion, sympathy, and every other positive aspect of life you can think of
The thing I'm seeing on here about "playing the race card" is complete shambles and some points on here I'm seeing, some are true, and some could not be more wrong. I agree, any "Muslim" who wants to preach about a 14th century law which has no place can gladly pack his/ her bags and piss off to a country that has a place for that rediculous ideology, and any "Muslim" that believes in the way Isis do can gladly piss of with them, but to see post that say "all Muslims are to blame" and stupid pictures that make Islam out to be the worst thing in existence only saddens me, I go to Cardiff game, I cheer for the team you and i support, hey I may of say next to the man who says "Muslims are evil" you wouldn't have known cause the Muslims who follow the real religion of Islam are peaceful, we have the same views as Judaism and Christianity, so why blame us for something we haven't done and do not condone, I really don't like to post things that arnt about the team I support and grew up loving but I think this matter really needed to be addressed to some very narrow minded people

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3NzkAOo3s

This sort of blows your 32,000 quote on the other thread out of the water. I'd prefer to take this experts view of the figures over yours.

The terror attacks in Paris, Ghana, Kenya etc have been real tragedies, horrible actions taken out by men who claim to do it in the name of Allah, as a Muslim myself I've grown up with people of every race, religion and background, they know my views as a Muslims as well as I know theirs, and they respect my views aswell as I respect theirs, these filth who shot innocent people "In the name of Islam" stopped becoming Muslims the second they even thought of attacking. These weren't Islamic Terror Attacks, these were just Terror attacks, these men don't follow the real way of being Muslim, my deepest sympathy goes for the families and friends of anyone who had to suffer from these attacks but I'd like to also say anyone who blames a ENTIRE religion on 8 men is pretty pathetic, I'm Muslim because it's teached me more than anything I've ever done, it's taught me love, compassion, sympathy, and every other positive aspect of life you can think of
The thing I'm seeing on here about "playing the race card" is complete shambles and some points on here I'm seeing, some are true, and some could not be more wrong. I agree, any "Muslim" who wants to preach about a 14th century law which has no place can gladly pack his/ her bags and piss off to a country that has a place for that rediculous ideology, and any "Muslim" that believes in the way Isis do can gladly piss of with them, but to see post that say "all Muslims are to blame" and stupid pictures that make Islam out to be the worst thing in existence only saddens me, I go to Cardiff game, I cheer for the team you and i support, hey I may of say next to the man who says "Muslims are evil" you wouldn't have known cause the Muslims who follow the real religion of Islam are peaceful, we have the same views as Judaism and Christianity, so why blame us for something we haven't done and do not condone, I really don't like to post things that arnt about the team I support and grew up loving but I think this matter really needed to be addressed to some very narrow minded people

They are basic human emotions felt by a 1 year old.

Yes trying to justify Islam at this time is like trying to sell cancer

Where I can see where your coming from mate,one of the main problems is one Muslim will not grass or turn another Muslim in to the law even if they know there involved in terrorism ,don't say that you would because your religion comes before anything else, you can argue all day long on here but you know deep down Muslims all stick together, and that's not having a go but your religion is to strong to go against it.

Where I can see where your coming from mate,one of the main problems is one Muslim will not grass or turn another Muslim in to the law even if they know there involved in terrorism ,don't say that you would because your religion comes before anything else, you can argue all day long on here but you know deep down Muslims all stick together, and that's not having a go but your religion is to strong to go against it.

agree

it looks like a religion of fear rather than love

I think religion is dangerous as it encourages one dimensional thinking and blind faith.

Murder, oppression, rape, slavery, robbery etc is bad -and any reasonable person would think this but religion seems to block out fairness and allow people in that religion to justify this.

Whether this is jew hating catholic Hitler, hard line Hinduism/Judaisim/Sikhism/Christianity/buddism or salafist islam.

humanity comes before any religion - that's the problem -people who follow religion can sometimes forget humanity

Where I can see where your coming from mate,one of the main problems is one Muslim will not grass or turn another Muslim in to the law even if they know there involved in terrorism ,don't say that you would because your religion comes before anything else, you can argue all day long on here but you know deep down Muslims all stick together, and that's not having a go but your religion is to strong to go against it.

Muslim stick together? People from Iraq, Iran and Saudi have established rebel groups to fight Isis, ask any other real Muslims and they'd say they'd like Isis wiped of this planet completely, real Muslims stick together , these scum arnt Muslim

Where I can see where your coming from mate,one of the main problems is one Muslim will not grass or turn another Muslim in to the law even if they know there involved in terrorism ,don't say that you would because your religion comes before anything else, you can argue all day long on here but you know deep down Muslims all stick together, and that's not having a go but your religion is to strong to go against it.

Muslim stick together? People from Iraq, Iran and Saudi have established rebel groups to fight Isis, ask any other real Muslims and they'd say they'd like Isis wiped of this planet completely, real Muslims stick together , these scum arnt Muslim

Problem is - they (ISIS/Boke Haram etc etc) are using words and actions stating that they represent all muslims.
This will confuse the hell out of people all over the world.

This is a world problem and humanity must stick together shoulder to shoulder and fight the scum - irrespective of what religion you are or not. A couple of top level immams/muslim governments could really help the situation by standing tall, break the habit of blaming everyone else, put past behind them and look to the future. (europe did this after 2 world wars killing 60 million, so it can be done)

They are not Muslim in your opinion.

But millions do agree with them. And those people do believe that they are Muslims.

Annis I have many Muslim friend who feel the same disgust as w do at what's happening,the problem is that Muslim leaders do not openly state the condemnation of theses sub humans that carry out these attacks I have seen ordinary Muslims praying alongside Christians and rejecting these people but not leaders,or imams who people listen to and respect

Who are you to say that they aren't Muslim ? They may have chosen a wharped version of the Muslim region but they call themselves Muslims so they are Muslim.

If you are pea brained enough to believe the drivel you are taught I pity you.Look around the world fella what is going on in your name !!! If it was up to me I would deport every single piece of muslim trash back to the shit holes that spawned them.Vermin

Where I can see where your coming from mate,one of the main problems is one Muslim will not grass or turn another Muslim in to the law even if they know there involved in terrorism ,don't say that you would because your religion comes before anything else, you can argue all day long on here but you know deep down Muslims all stick together, and that's not having a go but your religion is to strong to go against it.

Stick together? No mate there blowing eachother up.

If you are pea brained enough to believe the drivel you are taught I pity you.Look around the world fella what is going on in your name !!! If it was up to me I would deport every single piece of muslim trash back to the shit holes that spawned them.Vermin

I know people who work doing gas repairs on boilers a while back etc,when they done work in houses down canton ,the road leading from the ninian pub ,can't remember the name of the street ,they worked in houses where the owners are Muslim and they got pictures and Calender's on the wall with pictures on it of kill america and that ,so is the average Muslim thinking this way, I don't know but tell me this how many occasions have there been of a Muslim community turning in someone in there own community it does not happen,you know I'm not talking crap am I.

I know people who work doing gas repairs on boilers a while back etc,when they done work in houses down canton ,the road leading from the ninian pub ,can't remember the name of the street ,they worked in houses where the owners are Muslim and they got pictures and Calender's on the wall with pictures on it of kill america and that ,so is the average Muslim thinking this way, I don't know but tell me this how many occasions have there been of a Muslim community turning in someone in there own community it does not happen,you know I'm not talking crap am I.

i think you are indeed talking crap

No I fooking ain't ,I don't tell lies to stir trouble, I'm not asking you to believe me ,

If you are pea brained enough to believe the drivel you are taught I pity you.Look around the world fella what is going on in your name !!! If it was up to me I would deport every single piece of muslim trash back to the shit holes that spawned them.Vermin

You started this thread a couple of months ago you hypocrite.

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Shall we deport Idriss Saadi as well? I hope you don't cheer any of the vermins goals.

I would describe myself as an islamaphobe and I don't like religion full stop. I am growing tired of many muslims and lefties alike in this country making excuses for these barbaric acts. However comments like the above are beyond thick.

One think I am not thick you old c**t, our children and grandchildren will pay for this not you because you will be dead you stupid old f*cking half wit.They are outbreeding Europeans four to one work it out Einstein.

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Where I can see where your coming from mate,one of the main problems is one Muslim will not grass or turn another Muslim in to the law even if they know there involved in terrorism ,don't say that you would because your religion comes before anything else, you can argue all day long on here but you know deep down Muslims all stick together, and that's not having a go but your religion is to strong to go against it.

What you describe is not just a muslim thing though.The IRA in their pomp would remove your knee caps or worse if you were a grass.Twenty years after peace broke out some people are still lying low just in case.I've even seen many times on here people proudly exclaiming that they are not grasses.Fear and intimidation have been the weapons of bullies and cowards since time began.And to be honest if I witnessed a terrorist act on home soil and they threatened my family I don't honestly know if I could shop them.

Isis have killed more Muslims in Syria,Iraq and Afghanistan then the Americans

It's all down to the individuals twisted fucked up minds nothing to do with the religion narrow minded people think all Muslims are terrorists so the I know some Muslims and they are good people and what about the Muslims that the Isis are killing so are those Muslims terrorists aswell? No and Hitler was a Roman Catholic and you know of course he killed six million Jews so do Catholics want to kill Jews then? No it's all down to individual.

One think I am not thick you old c**t, our children and grandchildren will pay for this not you because you will be dead you stupid old f*cking half wit.They are outbreeding Europeans four to one work it out Einstein.

You are thick, incredibly so. Calling me an old c**t confirms that, most posters on here know why . You made a thread a couple of months ago about a muslim girl, praising her "human spirit". Two months later you're spouting absolute bullshit calling for all muslims to be deported (What about the ones born here) and calling them all vermin.

Is Idriss Saadi vermin? What about Sam?

Thick c**t.

For me, What the vast majority of Muslims seem not to understand grasp is the fact that most right minded British people have no hatred towards them BUT they themselves, because of their religion, which comes before anything else as far as I can see, do not understand the concept of British integration?

Most seem to ghettoize themselves from British society.

Take this clip for example - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-34793788

It was a conference about how the Muslim community could integrate better into British society. Look at the whole clip from BBC Wales but then think about what the lady from the " Muslim council for Wales" actually says at 00.38 - 01.08 minutes.

Firstly, the whole Berka debate (France have banned the full face Burka in Public). Does she not realise that the Majority of British people do not like it? A head scarf, not covering mouth and expression is a different matter. So if they are trying to integrate into society - not wearing the Burka would be a good start.

Secondly, the lady blames British intolerance and Islamophobia - Yes, there are some but does she not ask herself why?

Surely, if your British, Your British ?

It's a bit like saying a British Policeman or woman is a British police officer, Correct? So why is there a Black police officers association? does not matter if your yellow, red, black, brown or purple with red spots, surely a British police officer is a British police officer?

I for one would like to see the Muslim leaders and community in Britain, do a "not in our name" type of mass protest at all this shit that is going on around the world with people who purport to be their Muslim brothers.

Grrr !!!!

While not involved 25% of Muslims in the uk support the war on the western world. Yes, the western world they live in. Bonkers.

While not involved 25% of Muslims in the uk support the war on the western world. Yes, the western world they live in. Bonkers.

Have you got a link for that?

While not involved 25% of Muslims in the uk support the war on the western world. Yes, the western world they live in. Bonkers.

Have you got a link for that?

No but was reading about it last night, tbh I was trying to educate myself on it all. Politics and religion are not my forte, I understand the basics of what's happening in Syria and like many I have my views on recent events. Emotions are running high, it's raw people are angry and you can see that in the posts.

Put simply enough is enough, the answers I don't have them but when you hear of Isis in penarth and preaching then they need to be shipped out " human rights" what about our human rights. 450 returned in to this country after fighting in Syria, absolute madness we should follow the Aussies and withdraw citizenship.

I think if the muslim leaders in the UK went on tv and publicly stated that these terrorist groups are nothing to do with their religion and that if any potential members of their community gave them any doubts as to whether they were being radicalised they would hand them in to the police then I think there would be less chance of the muslim community being attacked in reaction to these terrible acts of terrorism. It's over to them now.

I think if the muslim leaders in the UK went on tv and publicly stated that these terrorist groups are nothing to do with their religion and that if any potential members of their community gave them any doubts as to whether they were being radicalised they would hand them in to the police then I think there would be less chance of the muslim community being attacked in reaction to these terrible acts of terrorism. It's over to them now.

Spot on mate. The good Muslim folk need to distance themselves and together show the world that they are totally against what these scumbags are doing. The problem is it very rarely happens. Every religion, whether it be Muslim, Christian etc. need to stand together against these filthy cunts !

While not involved 25% of Muslims in the uk support the war on the western world. Yes, the western world they live in. Bonkers.

Have you got a link for that?

No but was reading about it last night, tbh I was trying to educate myself on it all. Politics and religion are not my forte, I understand the basics of what's happening in Syria and like many I have my views on recent events. Emotions are running high, it's raw people are angry and you can see that in the posts.

Put simply enough is enough, the answers I don't have them but when you hear of Isis in penarth and preaching then they need to be shipped out " human rights" what about our human rights. 450 returned in to this country after fighting in Syria, absolute madness we should follow the Aussies and withdraw citizenship.

No link then, probably because that statistic is bullshit.

I agree with you, all those that left these shores to fight in Syria should not be allowed back. We should seize their passports. I often wonder why the government are so keen to stop people travelling there, surely these people are better out than in. We should be putting on chartered flights for them.

It's not easy to deport people when they are born here like the majority of British muslims are. Where do we deport them to? I