' Swansea City chairman Huw Jenkins '

War of words over Liberty Stadium expansion as council says Swansea City is to blame for delays
By South Wales Evening Post


Swansea City chairman Huw Jenkins.

DELAYS to plans to expand the Liberty Stadium are not the fault of Swansea Council, the authority has said.

The claim comes after Swansea City chairman Huw Jenkins made a public plea to the council, asking them to get behind proposals to increase the capacity of the stadium, in order to maximise matchday revenue.

Writing in the matchday programme ahead of the club's game against Manchester United at the weekend, Mr Jenkins said: "I believe we need the full support of Swansea Council and all its members to help us through this difficult process.

"Obtaining planning permission and buying the small parcel of land near the stadium has already cost the football club more than £1.5 million without a brick being placed.


"We clearly need the 'landlord's consent' from Swansea Council to help us move forward further before the new year."

Swansea Council has now responded to the comments, saying it is ready to work closely and quickly with the club to support any plans they have for the Liberty Stadium in future.

But it maintains it had arranged to meet with members of Swansea City FC's board last week to discuss the landlord's consent, but that meeting was cancelled.

A Swansea Council spokesman said: "The council, like the fans, want the Swans to continue to excel and to go from strength to strength in the Premier League and beyond.

"Our support for the club has always been unstinting, right from the dark days when we twice bailed them out, to the bold decision to build the £27 million Liberty Stadium that's been the bedrock of the success which we are now all enjoying.

"The council hasn't received any income from the Swans for using the stadium in the last 10 years.

"We now need the Swans board to decide if they are going to purchase the stadium, which we have been exploring, or expand it, or both, and do it soon.

"The council stands ready to work through the detail of either option to move things forward quickly."

He added: "We're not the ones holding it up.

"We gave planning permission many months ago and have facilitated a land deal to secureexpansion space for the new development.

"We also agreed to sit down to discuss landlord's consent last week but, unfortunately, the Swans board representatives cancelled.

"We'd urge the Swans board to decide what they want to do and get on with it.

"The fans have already waited two seasons for expansion and progress needs to be made or a golden opportunity will be missed."

But Swansea City bosses say they are surprised at the council comments.

A Swansea City spokesman said: "We are extremely surprised and disappointed with the defensive response in the council statement.

"Not at any point have we, as a club, stated that the council have held up the expansion. We have merely called for everyone to work together in order for the expansion to go through as soon as possible.

"However, as a club we will continue to work with the council to find a suitable solution to expand the stadium for the betterment of our supporters, the majority of whom live within Swansea and are desperate to enjoy and back the club's success in the Barclays Premier League.

"We will, however, refuse to get drawn any further into any public debate on the matter."

The expansion is now very close, no doubt. With 20800 it's the loudest ground in the PL. when there will be 33000 eventually the atmosphere will be amazing.

The expansion is now very close, no doubt. With 20800 it's the loudest ground in the PL. when there will be 33000 eventually the atmosphere will be amazing.

Officially Stoke is loudest ground in premier and as been for several years! And you lot lied your arses off saying you pay council money for using ground according to this statement you havnt done so for past past 10yrs? Screwed local businesses twice now screwing council tax payer's of Swansea!
Well run club my arse parasites living off others more like.

Give your OBE back and damn you Jenkins for running and taking our football club to the best league in the world for the past several years on a shoestring with a brilliant business sense lord Sugar would be proud of, bringing joy to 1,000's of Swansea Jacks, creating more revenue for our city and putting Swansea on the map how dare you hang your head in shame

So Swansea Council confirms what I have been saying for years that they have not received a single penny in income from either of the sporting clubs who use the Liberty stadium. The stadium cost over £27m of public monies, not to mention the £2.3m loan written off by the council for the cost of fitting out the hospitality areas, whilst Swansea City football club receive £m's in PL income.

Little wonder UEFA continue to investigate this sordid arrangement which amounts to State Aid of private business. The question is where is the Welsh Audit Office and just why are they allowing this situation to continue.

25,000 glory hunting plastic jacks singing max boyce rugby songs. Awesome

So Swansea Council confirms what I have been saying for years that they have not received a single penny in income from either of the sporting clubs who use the Liberty stadium. The stadium cost over £27m of public monies, not to mention the £2.3m loan written off by the council for the cost of fitting out the hospitality areas, whilst Swansea City football club receive £m's in PL income.

Little wonder UEFA continue to investigate this sordid arrangement which amounts to State Aid of private business. The question is where is the Welsh Audit Office and just why are they allowing this situation to continue.

and they continue to defend this situation total hypocrites! at least we made our own way yes with help from council but at least we contributed 25m to our stadium! no one will say sfa about this as probably making money from situation themselves.

So Swansea Council confirms what I have been saying for years that they have not received a single penny in income from either of the sporting clubs who use the Liberty stadium. The stadium cost over £27m of public monies, not to mention the £2.3m loan written off by the council for the cost of fitting out the hospitality areas, whilst Swansea City football club receive £m's in PL income.

Little wonder UEFA continue to investigate this sordid arrangement which amounts to State Aid of private business. The question is where is the Welsh Audit Office and just why are they allowing this situation to continue.

and they continue to defend this situation total hypocrites! at least we made our own way yes with help from council but at least we contributed 25m to our stadium! no one will say sfa about this as probably making money from situation themselves.

This is our 5 th season in the premier league Allan, I'd thought you'd have come to terms with it by now. Let it go, it's obviously eating away at you.

So Swansea Council confirms what I have been saying for years that they have not received a single penny in income from either of the sporting clubs who use the Liberty stadium. The stadium cost over £27m of public monies, not to mention the £2.3m loan written off by the council for the cost of fitting out the hospitality areas, whilst Swansea City football club receive £m's in PL income.

Little wonder UEFA continue to investigate this sordid arrangement which amounts to State Aid of private business. The question is where is the Welsh Audit Office and just why are they allowing this situation to continue.

and they continue to defend this situation total hypocrites! at least we made our own way yes with help from council but at least we contributed 25m to our stadium! no one will say sfa about this as probably making money from situation themselves.

This is our 5 th season in the premier league Allan, I'd thought you'd have come to terms with it by now. Let it go, it's obviously eating away at you.

what a tw*t you are! never answer points any one makes just make typical Roathy responses but then you dont know where you are as your name suggests so not surprising, anyway conversation terminated find someone else to have endless debate with!

To be fair the reason the council does not get any money is that they have distanced themselves from it by creating a 3rd party company to run it. The 3rd party gets the money and this insulates the council from any expenditure and loss, but also potential profits. It's used as a case study in A level economics

To be fair the reason the council does not get any money is that they have distanced themselves from it by creating a 3rd party company to run it. The 3rd party gets the money and this insulates the council from any expenditure and loss, but also potential profits. It's used as a case study in A level economics

There you go Allan read the above post. It's all there for you in black and white. So Swansea does pay their way with the liberty, the money goes to a 3 rd party company, that was set up by the council. The company is called stadco, i thought you'd have know this Allan, as you spend so much time in Swansea and take such a big interest in SCFC.

To be fair the reason the council does not get any money is that they have distanced themselves from it by creating a 3rd party company to run it. The 3rd party gets the money and this insulates the council from any expenditure and loss, but also potential profits. It's used as a case study in A level economics

By same token council tax payers of Swansea don't receive a penny from club then? (Been in profit past 5yrs) If that's case its a disgrace and Jenkins and other's are laughing all way to bank as they probably get bonus ect for profits made?
Or is this company paying Council or paying Jenkins and co? Strange set up and smacks of avoidance by people.

To be fair the reason the council does not get any money is that they have distanced themselves from it by creating a 3rd party company to run it. The 3rd party gets the money and this insulates the council from any expenditure and loss, but also potential profits. It's used as a case study in A level economics

By same token council tax payers of Swansea don't receive a penny from club then? (Been in profit past 5yrs) If that's case its a disgrace and Jenkins and other's are laughing all way to bank as they probably get bonus ect for profits made?
Or is this company paying Council or paying Jenkins and co? Strange set up and smacks of avoidance by people.

Been in profit a lot longer the 5 yrs Allan

To be fair the reason the council does not get any money is that they have distanced themselves from it by creating a 3rd party company to run it. The 3rd party gets the money and this insulates the council from any expenditure and loss, but also potential profits. It's used as a case study in A level economics

By same token council tax payers of Swansea don't receive a penny from club then? (Been in profit past 5yrs) If that's case its a disgrace and Jenkins and other's are laughing all way to bank as they probably get bonus ect for profits made?
Or is this company paying Council or paying Jenkins and co? Strange set up and smacks of avoidance by people.

Just admit Allan, you haven't got a clue, have you.

Interesting article, but nothing really to do with us. A matter for Swansea City and their city council to sort out. Having said that, they look as if they are in the Premier League for a while, so they certainly need to increase their capacity. Do the egg-chasers still play there?

Interesting article, but nothing really to do with us. A matter for Swansea City and their city council to sort out. Having said that, they look as if they are in the Premier League for a while, so they certainly need to increase their capacity. Do the egg-chasers still play there?

Yes they do , Wonder if they have say in anything to do with stadium ?

The expansion is now very close, no doubt. With 20800 it's the loudest ground in the PL. when there will be 33000 eventually the atmosphere will be amazing.

And like our on ground, it will look pale and empty when your own bandwagon jumpers have 'seen enough' and sated their unnatural footballing thirst!

Not a good move for Swansea TBH and one (sadly) they will eventually come to regret!

Interesting article, but nothing really to do with us. A matter for Swansea City and their city council to sort out. Having said that, they look as if they are in the Premier League for a while, so they certainly need to increase their capacity. Do the egg-chasers still play there?

Yes they do , Wonder if they have say in anything to do with stadium ?

IF Swansea City ever buy the Liberty Stadium it will be interesting if they, as landlords, charge the egg-chasers rent for the use of the stadium.

Time the squatter situation down at the Liberty was sorted.

Interesting article, but nothing really to do with us. A matter for Swansea City and their city council to sort out. Having said that, they look as if they are in the Premier League for a while, so they certainly need to increase their capacity. Do the egg-chasers still play there?

Yes they do , Wonder if they have say in anything to do with stadium ?

IF Swansea City ever buy the Liberty Stadium it will be interesting if they, as landlords, charge the egg-chasers rent for the use of the stadium.

Time the squatter situation down at the Liberty was sorted.


Interesting point as not doing so now! And it is the city's stadium not Swansea's exclusively! But judging what's been said today sure they find way to charge them!

The expansion is now very close, no doubt. With 20800 it's the loudest ground in the PL. when there will be 33000 eventually the atmosphere will be amazing.

And like our on ground, it will look pale and empty when your own bandwagon jumpers have 'seen enough' and sated their unnatural footballing thirst!

Not a good move for Swansea TBH and one (sadly) they will eventually come to regret!

Yeah you keep telling yourself that, you may even believe it yourself one day.

To sum up then! Swansea council spent 26m? Building stadium neither ospreys or swans have paid anything for past 10yrs? And council tax payers don't receive a penny but some 3rd party does? Wonder who is involved in this company? Sounds like a Sam hammam set up!

So Swansea Council confirms what I have been saying for years that they have not received a single penny in income from either of the sporting clubs who use the Liberty stadium. The stadium cost over £27m of public monies, not to mention the £2.3m loan written off by the council for the cost of fitting out the hospitality areas, whilst Swansea City football club receive £m's in PL income.

Little wonder UEFA continue to investigate this sordid arrangement which amounts to State Aid of private business. The question is where is the Welsh Audit Office and just why are they allowing this situation to continue.

and they continue to defend this situation total hypocrites! at least we made our own way yes with help from council but at least we contributed 25m to our stadium! no one will say sea about this as probably making money from situation themselves.

I wonder as you're so well informed of all things Swansea could you explain the difference between Swansea's current agreed arrangement with their Council and Cardiff's Council decision to "gift" land worth between 50 - 70 million pounds ,for the building of CCS, ? with no consultation with the rate payers or any likely hood that the money would be repaid

How much has that money been returned to the good taxpayers of Cardiff ? and no you didn't pay towards the 25 million, that is a debt still owed to this current regime and that debt will ultimately be repaid by the fans .

Something similar happened regarding the Cardiff Devils with a lease agreement which basically means the Cardiff rate payers are now paying for the Cardiff Devils to have free ice time by paying Planet Ice an inflated rental charge for a building that CCC should have owned from day one in the capital purchase of the BBT at a cost to rate payers at that time of £2.5 million!

So Swansea Council confirms what I have been saying for years that they have not received a single penny in income from either of the sporting clubs who use the Liberty stadium. The stadium cost over £27m of public monies, not to mention the £2.3m loan written off by the council for the cost of fitting out the hospitality areas, whilst Swansea City football club receive £m's in PL income.

Little wonder UEFA continue to investigate this sordid arrangement which amounts to State Aid of private business. The question is where is the Welsh Audit Office and just why are they allowing this situation to continue.

and they continue to defend this situation total hypocrites! at least we made our own way yes with help from council but at least we contributed 25m to our stadium! no one will say sea about this as probably making money from situation themselves.

I wonder as you're so well informed of all things Swansea could you explain the difference between Swansea's current agreed arrangement with their Council and Cardiff's Council decision to "gift" land worth between 50 - 70 million pounds ,for the building of CCS, ? with no consultation with the rate payers or any likely hood that the money would be repaid

How much has that money been returned to the good taxpayers of Cardiff ? and no you didn't pay towards the 25 million, that is a debt still owed to this current regime and that debt will ultimately be repaid by the fans .

Something similar happened regarding the Cardiff Devils with a lease agreement which basically means the Cardiff rate payers are now paying for the Cardiff Devils to have free ice time by paying Planet Ice an inflated rental charge for a building that CCC should have owned from day one in the capital purchase of the BBT at a cost to rate payers at that time of £2.5 million!

Pembroke Allan will no doubt avoid your question.

So Swansea Council confirms what I have been saying for years that they have not received a single penny in income from either of the sporting clubs who use the Liberty stadium. The stadium cost over £27m of public monies, not to mention the £2.3m loan written off by the council for the cost of fitting out the hospitality areas, whilst Swansea City football club receive £m's in PL income.

Little wonder UEFA continue to investigate this sordid arrangement which amounts to State Aid of private business. The question is where is the Welsh Audit Office and just why are they allowing this situation to continue.

and they continue to defend this situation total hypocrites! at least we made our own way yes with help from council but at least we contributed 25m to our stadium! no one will say sea about this as probably making money from situation themselves.

I wonder as you're so well informed of all things Swansea could you explain the difference between Swansea's current agreed arrangement with their Council and Cardiff's Council decision to "gift" land worth between 50 - 70 million pounds ,for the building of CCS, ? with no consultation with the rate payers or any likely hood that the money would be repaid

How much has that money been returned to the good taxpayers of Cardiff ? and no you didn't pay towards the 25 million, that is a debt still owed to this current regime and that debt will ultimately be repaid by the fans .

Something similar happened regarding the Cardiff Devils with a lease agreement which basically means the Cardiff rate payers are now paying for the Cardiff Devils to have free ice time by paying Planet Ice an inflated rental charge for a building that CCC should have owned from day one in the capital purchase of the BBT at a cost to rate payers at that time of £2.5 million!

Pembroke Allan will no doubt avoid your question.

God loves a trier

So Swansea Council confirms what I have been saying for years that they have not received a single penny in income from either of the sporting clubs who use the Liberty stadium. The stadium cost over £27m of public monies, not to mention the £2.3m loan written off by the council for the cost of fitting out the hospitality areas, whilst Swansea City football club receive £m's in PL income.

Little wonder UEFA continue to investigate this sordid arrangement which amounts to State Aid of private business. The question is where is the Welsh Audit Office and just why are they allowing this situation to continue.

and they continue to defend this situation total hypocrites! at least we made our own way yes with help from council but at least we contributed 25m to our stadium! no one will say sea about this as probably making money from situation themselves.

I wonder as you're so well informed of all things Swansea could you explain the difference between Swansea's current agreed arrangement with their Council and Cardiff's Council decision to "gift" land worth between 50 - 70 million pounds ,for the building of CCS, ? with no consultation with the rate payers or any likely hood that the money would be repaid

How much has that money been returned to the good taxpayers of Cardiff ? and no you didn't pay towards the 25 million, that is a debt still owed to this current regime and that debt will ultimately be repaid by the fans .

Something similar happened regarding the Cardiff Devils with a lease agreement which basically means the Cardiff rate payers are now paying for the Cardiff Devils to have free ice time by paying Planet Ice an inflated rental charge for a building that CCC should have owned from day one in the capital purchase of the BBT at a cost to rate payers at that time of £2.5 million!

Pembroke Allan will no doubt avoid your question.

God loves a trier

Yes he trys Patience of a saint! He is just a troll , Ive no idea what the tw*t is going on about but pot kettle black when it comes to answering questions! Roathy as a degree in it?

So Swansea Council confirms what I have been saying for years that they have not received a single penny in income from either of the sporting clubs who use the Liberty stadium. The stadium cost over £27m of public monies, not to mention the £2.3m loan written off by the council for the cost of fitting out the hospitality areas, whilst Swansea City football club receive £m's in PL income.

Little wonder UEFA continue to investigate this sordid arrangement which amounts to State Aid of private business. The question is where is the Welsh Audit Office and just why are they allowing this situation to continue.

and they continue to defend this situation total hypocrites! at least we made our own way yes with help from council but at least we contributed 25m to our stadium! no one will say sea about this as probably making money from situation themselves.

I wonder as you're so well informed of all things Swansea could you explain the difference between Swansea's current agreed arrangement with their Council and Cardiff's Council decision to "gift" land worth between 50 - 70 million pounds ,for the building of CCS, ? with no consultation with the rate payers or any likely hood that the money would be repaid

How much has that money been returned to the good taxpayers of Cardiff ? and no you didn't pay towards the 25 million, that is a debt still owed to this current regime and that debt will ultimately be repaid by the fans .

Something similar happened regarding the Cardiff Devils with a lease agreement which basically means the Cardiff rate payers are now paying for the Cardiff Devils to have free ice time by paying Planet Ice an inflated rental charge for a building that CCC should have owned from day one in the capital purchase of the BBT at a cost to rate payers at that time of £2.5 million!

The land was never worth 50-70 million. It was also land that the football club sold to the council in the late 80s for 50k so that the council could build the leckwith stadium.

Ccfc had to pay for the road improvements around the ground for the planning permission to go through. The revenues generated from the large retail park and the building of new athletics stadium have gone a long way towards paying the council back. The housing development on ninian park includes social housing which has added to the city's housing stock.

The jacks call our ground Lego land but at least we own our ground I like Lego land because we can expand our ground any time and the design of the ground lets us do that .ive been in the Liberty not just on match day I have been all over it its a concrete jungle .a lot of jacks who came up to our ground for the first time for the beligum game told me they liked our ground and is far better located than the liberty that's good enough for me

The jacks call our ground Lego land but at least we own our ground I like Lego land because we can expand our ground any time and the design of the ground lets us do that .ive been in the Liberty not just on match day I have been all over it its a concrete jungle .a lot of jacks who came up to our ground for the first time for the beligum game told me they liked our ground and is far better located than the liberty that's good enough for me

In what way is it better located ?

So Swansea Council confirms what I have been saying for years that they have not received a single penny in income from either of the sporting clubs who use the Liberty stadium. The stadium cost over £27m of public monies, not to mention the £2.3m loan written off by the council for the cost of fitting out the hospitality areas, whilst Swansea City football club receive £m's in PL income.

Little wonder UEFA continue to investigate this sordid arrangement which amounts to State Aid of private business. The question is where is the Welsh Audit Office and just why are they allowing this situation to continue.

and they continue to defend this situation total hypocrites! at least we made our own way yes with help from council but at least we contributed 25m to our stadium! no one will say sea about this as probably making money from situation themselves.

I wonder as you're so well informed of all things Swansea could you explain the difference between Swansea's current agreed arrangement with their Council and Cardiff's Council decision to "gift" land worth between 50 - 70 million pounds ,for the building of CCS, ? with no consultation with the rate payers or any likely hood that the money would be repaid

Major difference here as Cardiff Council are still owners of the land the stadium is built on and also the council and therefore ratepayers benefits from taxes from the retail park etc.

Big Big difference here.

So Swansea Council confirms what I have been saying for years that they have not received a single penny in income from either of the sporting clubs who use the Liberty stadium. The stadium cost over £27m of public monies, not to mention the £2.3m loan written off by the council for the cost of fitting out the hospitality areas, whilst Swansea City football club receive £m's in PL income.

Little wonder UEFA continue to investigate this sordid arrangement which amounts to State Aid of private business. The question is where is the Welsh Audit Office and just why are they allowing this situation to continue.

and they continue to defend this situation total hypocrites! at least we made our own way yes with help from council but at least we contributed 25m to our stadium! no one will say sea about this as probably making money from situation themselves.

I wonder as you're so well informed of all things Swansea could you explain the difference between Swansea's current agreed arrangement with their Council and Cardiff's Council decision to "gift" land worth between 50 - 70 million pounds ,for the building of CCS, ? with no consultation with the rate payers or any likely hood that the money would be repaid

Major difference here as Cardiff Council are still owners of the land the stadium is built on and also the council and therefore ratepayers benefits from taxes from the retail park etc.

Big Big difference here.

So who benefits from the taxes at the retail park, next to the liberty then ? The man on the moon.